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I really enjoyed Paul Dunn’s column on Social Security (March 10). Seldom is the liberal perspective so elegantly displayed in so few words.

I understand that your irrelevant reference to the “unnecessary war in Iraq” is required, but you failed to mention Halliburton or get in a dig on Cheney or Bush. Other than that, it was lib perfection.

I am also required as a member of the right-wing tea party to mention that the NRA was formed by Republicans after the Civil War to arm and protect recently freed blacks from the KKK, which was populated 100 percent by Democrats.

The Democrats had argued before the Supreme Court that, just because the slaves were free, they still were not citizens and not subject to the Second Amendment protection to bear arms.

Social Security was formed to force lower income people to save money to “supplement” their retirement. There were plenty of insurance companies already doing this, but it was a choice to buy a policy from them.

The Democrats indexed Social Security to inflation but did not index the contributions. This political campaign contribution has cost trillions and made Social Security insolvent.

Your solution really bothers me. Normally a liberal Democrat would suggest nickel-and-diming us to death. You have dropped the nickel.

Inflation?

Glenn Lancaster

Vass

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JimHeim 2 months, 1 week ago

What a load of bumf. The Democrats didn't index Social Security - Congress did. Only 28 Republican members of the House voted no and it passed that chamber 302-35. That's called bi-partisan. In the Senate the vote was 78-3. That's called bi-partisan. It was signed into law by Richard Nixon, believed by historians to be a Republican.

Yes, the Democratic Party has a sordid past having been run for a long time by the southern states. We changed all that and today I would suspect that 100% of the KKK is Republican.

In 1983, with the baby boomers a concern, Congress increased the payroll tax and raised the age for full benefits to 67. To say that contributions were not indexed is stupid.

I'm glad we had this little chat.

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Thatcher 2 months, 1 week ago

JimHeim-- "We changed all that and today I would suspect that 100% of the KKK is Republican." Sorry. You haven't "changed all that." You've simply gone from being overtly racist, to accusing others of being racist. Cheers!

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JimHeim 2 months, 1 week ago

Thatcher - Oh you mean like that charming gentleman from North Carolina at CPAC who said that the slaves should have been grateful for all that free food and shelter. And wondered why we can't have racial segregation. And the crowd that cheered him and said that whites are being disenfranchised?

You think he's a Democrat?

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geoffcutler 2 months, 1 week ago

The Democratic Party behind Obama built the last campaign and won in part on calling Republicans racist.

From today's WSJ "My Unrecognizable Democratic Party" by Ted Van Dyk:

"...it was based (Obama's victory) on a four year mobilization- executed with unprecedented skill- of core democratic constituencies, and or fear campaigns in which Mitt Romney and the Republicans were painted as waging a 'war on woman,' being servants of the wealthy, and of being hostile toward Latinos, Africans Americans, gays and the middle class. I couldn't imagine any of the Democratic presidents or presidential candidates I served from 1960-92 using such down-on-all-fours tactics."

Cracks are beginning to form in the Obama ranks. About time.

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JD 2 months, 1 week ago

So I had to look up what Heim was talking about since I was on vacation and avoided the news.

A CPAC session sponsored by Tea Party Patriots and billed as a primer on teaching activists how to court black voters devolved into a shouting match as some attendees demanded justice for white voters and others shouted down a black woman who reacted in horror. Scott Terry of North Carolina, accompanied by a Confederate-flag-clad attendee, Matthew Heimbach, rose to say he took offense to the event’s take on slavery. (Heimbach founded the White Students Union at Towson University and is described as a “white nationalist” by the Southern Poverty Law Center.) “It seems to be that you’re reaching out to voters at the expense of young white Southern males,” Terry said, adding he “came to love my people and culture” who were “being systematically disenfranchised.” Smith responded that Douglass forgave his slavemaster. “For giving him food? And shelter” Terry said. Attendees interviewed by TPM afterwards expressed outrage at the way the event turned out. Not at the Terry and Heimbach — they were mad at Brown for her interruptions. Brown, who took offense at the suggestion modern Democrats were descendants of the KKK, tried to ask a question later once things finally calmed down. She was booed and screamed at by audience members. “Let someone else speak!” one attendee in Revolutionary War garb shouted. “You’re not welcome here!” a white-haired older woman yelled.

Oh boy did that sounded like a raucous event. Whoever voted for Scott Terry should be ashamed about now.

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JimHeim 2 months, 1 week ago

geoff - I read that column at breakfast. (surprised? I read The Economist, too) Mr Van Dyk speaks for Mr Van Dyk. Like other Blue Dogs, he represents a small (and dwindling) part of the party. I'm sure he'll be happier as a Republican.

If you want to hear from someone who's been totally abandoned by his party, talk to a fiscally conservative, socially moderate Republican. This area is rife with them.

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geoffcutler 2 months, 1 week ago

I don't think so, Jim. The same cracks in the Republican party, and there are many, are growing in your party. Obama's agenda, and the way he fulfills it, is turning traditional, non-extremist Democrats off. I know you'll never admit it, but the fiscal cliff, and sequester fiascoes were real eye openers. Leadership in your party has almost no resemblance to the Democratic party of old. It's leftist European styled Socialism and damn anyone who gets in the way.

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JimHeim 2 months, 1 week ago

geoff - Maybe you could take that up with a Republican congressperson from New England. Oh, wait...

If you read Mr Van Dyk's column all the way through, he noted that previous Democratic presidents negotiated with Republicans to get bipartisan cooperation. Those Republicans are long gone. Now we have tea party radicals willing to destroy the nation's economy to get their way. They are terrified of compromise since the nutbags who elected them don't allow it.

Mr Obama was naive to think the any deal could be done with modern republicans, unless it was strictly on their terms. And that would be lethal to our economy. We can hope that he took the lesson and will hold his ground.

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geoffcutler 2 months, 1 week ago

Jim, again I'm not saying the Republican party isn't cracked or in need of repair. There was also an article highlighting that in today's WSJ. All I'm saying is, so is yours, and the cracks are widening. Obama has badly damaged production out of Washington. What's different now is people are beginning to see Obama's the reason, and not the Republicans and everyone else besides himself that he's attempted to blame since he became president.

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skylinefirepest 2 months, 1 week ago

Jim Heim...I'll give you that a few Republicans are racist and make stupid comments at times. But then I remember right off that the liberal media ALWAYS portrays the right as racist and I do remember Pelosi's now famous comment that "we have to pass it so we know what's in it."

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DingoMike 2 months, 1 week ago

Lock the leadership of both houses in a large conference room, feed them MRE's and wait a week, 7 days not 5 and see if a budget deal gets done. If no deal after that time then cutoff the air conditioning and give them 7 more days. If no deal after that time then cutoff the bathroom breaks and take away the cots on which they sleep. How long till a deal after all this BS? I'll bet it ends after the first week. What do you think people????

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JimHeim 2 months, 1 week ago

Back to the topic. Social Security remains solvent and is self-funding. It is in no way a contributor to the federal deficit. The letter writer was entirely wrong in his statements about Social Security.

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geoffcutler 2 months, 1 week ago

"Yes, the Democratic Party has a sordid past having been run for a long time by the southern states. We changed all that and today I would suspect that 100% of the KKK is Republican." JimHeim

We were on topic. You love labeling Republicans as racist and your party used it to great effect getting Obama re-elected.

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JD 2 months, 1 week ago

If you want to hear from someone who's been totally abandoned by his party, talk to a fiscally conservative, socially moderate Republican.

Hi, what would you like to know?

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Spocks_Brain 2 months, 1 week ago

Heim is unbelievable and WRONG on this one....amazing..all the money has been taken out of, SS, and now way ahead of schedule, SS 'calls' bonds to make up shortfalls

Social Security to start cashing Uncle Sam's IOUs: Paper bonds parked in Parkersburg By Associated Press on March 14, 2010 at 6:24 PM, updated March 14, 2010 at 6:52 PM

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Associated Press, FileIn this July 1, 1998, photo, Vice President Al Gore, speaking in Cranston, R.I., points to a graph representing decreasing Social Security revenues, that if allowed to continue, would render the fund in solvent by 2032. During his 2000 presidential campaign Gore talked so much about the "lockbox" he'd use to protect Social Security, that he was parodied on "Saturday Night Live." STEPHEN OHLEMACHER, Associated Press Writer

PARKERSBURG, West Virginia - The retirement nest egg of an entire generation is stashed away in this small town along the Ohio River: $2.5 trillion in IOUs from the federal government, payable to the Social Security Administration.

It's time to start cashing them in.

For more than two decades, Social Security collected more money in taxes than it paid out in benefits -- billions more each year.

Not anymore. This year, for the first time since the 1980s, when Congress last overhauled Social Security, the retirement program is projected to pay out more in benefits than it collects in taxes -- nearly $29 billion more.

Sounds like a good time to start tapping the nest egg. Too bad the federal government already spent that money over the years on other programs, preferring to borrow from Social Security rather than foreign creditors. In return, the Treasury Department issued a stack of IOUs -- in the form of Treasury bonds -- which are kept in a nondescript office building just down the street from Parkersburg's municipal offices.

Now the government will have to borrow even more money, much of it abroad, to start paying back the IOUs, and the timing couldn't be worse. The government is projected to post a record $1.5 trillion budget deficit this year, followed by trillion dollar deficits for years to come.

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Spocks_Brain 2 months, 1 week ago

HEIM is wrong wrong wrong

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JimHeim 2 months, 1 week ago

If I'm wrong, so are the Social Security actuaries. Of course, they use math and math is hard. So Spock's_Rearend might not understand.

BTW - S_R, I hate to get all arithmeticky on you, but this year's deficit will be under $1 trillion. In fact, Obama has reduced deficits by more than any president since Truman. Pretty cool, huh?

And the Social Security system is self-funding. It was never intended that the trillions of dollars in advance payments into the system twould sit idly gathering dust. Just as with any other responsible economic system, those funds were loaned out at interest to bolster the fund. It's called capitalism. You should consider it.

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JimHeim 2 months, 1 week ago

Spocks - It was anticipated that the Social Security fund would pay out more than it took in during the baby boomer years. That's why the tax was increased under Reagan - one of eleven tax increases he signed.

The fund was pre-loaded to account for that. People who plan such systems are not stupid. Can't say that for everyone.

And borrowing from the fund was cheaper than going elsewhere. Congress was able to lower tax rates by quite a lot by doing that borrowing. Now we pay it back, kind of like a mortgage. Not a problem.

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Thatcher 2 months, 1 week ago

Social security is fine, just like JimHeim says. Unless you consider: http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2013/01/the-truth-about-how-bankrupt-social.html. Sad. But true. Cheers!

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Spocks_Brain 2 months, 1 week ago

Wow HEIM you are amazing - you can explain away everything ! Pure genius!
I've dealt with more money than you ever will in your lifetime x 5 in my banking career and I call you out on this-Jim you cant refute facts-your facts are wrong.

By the way, I have just found out that Smithfield Foods in Tarheel, one of the largest if not the largest slaughter house in the world (up to 30000 hogs per day) is going to lose its USDA inspectors almost immediately due to sequester. Now Mr Heim has just asserted that Obama is a deficit hawk...he prints close to 100 billion a month, and now no money for USDA inspectors. Obama did not cut the outreach and expenditure to Mexican groups vis a vis foodstamps.

This is Obamas plan in part to create panic, fear and shortages of food and continue to blame Republicans. This de facto is the effort to create a dictatorship.

A certain lawyer in Aberdeen used to have small framed letter signed by Woodrow Wilson addressed to Walter Hines Page that voiced disapointment in not receiving a vote by Hines on a vote of some kind but was gracious and acknowledged that he himself, Wilson understood the US had a system of party politics..there were no threats, no public haranguing

People check your food supply-events could move very rapidly...Obama controls very few outcomes and has created dozens of possible unintended consequences

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Thatcher 2 months, 1 week ago

Or you can consider this: http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2010/08/09/not_in_25_years_social_security_is_bankrupt_now_98611.html. And JimHeim would never seek to tax your bank accounts... like they are doing in Cyprus. That's unlike JimHeim. Just ask him. Cheers!

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geoffcutler 2 months, 1 week ago

Spock, The DNC playbook is to say whatever it takes to get votes. Socialism is like brainwashing. Riddle the foolish with the buzzwords, and flood them with how little they'll have to do to miraculously experience a better quality of life. Lying is how you get there. Live long and prosper!. The lack of truth, reason and logic would have seen Spock shuttle the Enterprise and commit suicide by now.

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Spocks_Brain 2 months, 1 week ago

Geoff yes I agree...its an interersting study how dictators become dictators..can it happen here? Yes. It did in Venezuela as Chavez had a skill in fashioning electoral majorities into a political steamroller, squeezing opponents and allies alike in a single-minded campaign to gather

power in his own hands

But tampering with the food supply is a great way to create panic.. when you take out the meat inspectors of the largest slaughter house on earth....wow..will this be on the news tonight? You heard it here

This is serious...I know managers in that plant-they want to force Smithfield to pay for the inspectors therefore layoffs en masse

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Thatcher 2 months, 1 week ago

geoff- Chekov was gay. And Obama knew it. Cheers my friend!

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fugitiveguy 2 months, 1 week ago

Does anybody know what Jim H does for a living when he isn't here doing his "economic standup routine" here?

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Spocks_Brain 2 months, 1 week ago

He's married to a doctor so he feeds off her, or so Ive heard...

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geoffcutler 2 months, 1 week ago

It's sad. Particularly because the card's been played so many times before and been proven to not play...like a pair of deuces against four aces. But here they are...still taking advantage of the foolish and uneducated.

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Spocks_Brain 2 months, 1 week ago

HEIM's about as astute as Krugman-the basic premise of all these clowns is to smooth out economic cycles but now you have a system where no recession will ever be allowed again-but when it happens again, will checks say for $50,000 be mailed to everyone? By the way those with green cards get all those checks like were sent out under Bush, 200 here 200 there...right now you have worthless paper deemed to have worth..when that changes watch out-only a 'command' economy will exist

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geoffcutler 2 months, 1 week ago

Jim, think Cyprus let this out of the bag a little too soon. Obama not yet on board yet...that kind of thing....best to lead with the ace... let'em know know to fold? What do you think, Jim?

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Spocks_Brain 2 months, 1 week ago

I think what we have is de facto Sharia economics-no usury, no interest. Banks make no money now on mortgages except servicing and fees, and an WSJ connected writer is calling the mortgage market de facto nationalized, this in just the last few days

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2997104/posts?page=4

Is this what we want???

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nothingspecial 2 months, 1 week ago

So true, Geoff. The liberal playbook so well followed by Jim also painstakingly avoids getting into detailed explanations of often incomprehensible liberal policies and seeks alternatively to pointedly attack conservatives whenever possible on little things, preferably personal. The only problem with Jim's strategy here is that under ten NC liberals actually care to read enough to get to the Pilot comments section, which was clearly revealed during the 2012 election.

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Spocks_Brain 2 months, 1 week ago

HEIM is one of the one per cent ! lmao bet they dont send in any extra money to halp pay down the deficit

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JimHeim 2 months, 1 week ago

I've been retired since 2001, but as a sideline I make it possible for you to hear Rush Limbaugh on the radio. And that hyper-frightened nitwit Mark Levin. maybe even my old lunch buddy, Neil Boortz. I don't listen, so I'm not sure if he's still on.

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Thatcher 2 months, 1 week ago

JimHeim-- Boortz is retired. Thanks for letting us hear Rush and Levin. You are fair to us. Cheers!

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JimHeim 2 months, 1 week ago

Gosh, Spocks, I'm flattered. To be compared with a Nobel Laureate is beyond thrilling.

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JimHeim 2 months, 1 week ago

Spocks, banks here get mortgage money for free and loan it out a 4%. Nice racket.

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Thatcher 2 months, 1 week ago

JimHeim-- "To be compared with a Nobel Laureate is beyond thrilling." Many here compare you to Obama, or Pelosi (she'll win next year for her "Unemployment Benefits Build The Economy" idea.) Congrats. Cheers!

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fugitiveguy 2 months, 1 week ago

"And that hyper-frightened nitwit Mark Levin."

Jim, is it a source of frustration to you that conservative talk is so wildly successful while you can't pay people to listen to lefty radio? Same thing with conservative authors. What gives, why is liberalism such a failure in these venues?

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geoffcutler 2 months, 1 week ago

I don't listen to any of them...being able to think for myself, Jim. Can't say the same for you. You take advantage of people. Make them feel weak, vulnerable, victims. The other guy's keeping you down. He's a racist, he's taking all your money. He's using you. Then you tell them you'll make everything better. As long as they vote for you. And then, you don't make anyone or anything better. You just make everyone and everything broke and miserable. You and Dunn and your kind have been destroying free nations from within for centuries

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JimHeim 2 months ago

geoff - In this country the median wealth of a white household is $110,729. For a black household it's $4,955. If you don't include home ownership it's whites $27,700 and blacks 0.

I wonder who's taking all their money.

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JimHeim 2 months ago

Spocks_tailend - You may not have heard of the sequester. You should look it up.

And Obama is much more of a deficit hawk than I. I see no deficit crisis and I would spend a few trillions more to get our economy back on its feet.

We don't have a spending problem; we have a revenue problem. All we have to do is put Americans back to work.

Unfortunately, the failed GOP can't let that happen lest Obama gets the credit. Can't have that.

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JimHeim 2 months ago

nothingspecial - As usual you are quite wrong. You'd be surprised at the number of comments I get from strangers who read these comments. They are numerous and they seem to like getting both sides of an issue.

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JimHeim 2 months ago

I see the GOP budget proposal falls $5.7 trillion short of balancing the federal budget. Am I supposed to be impressed by you fiscal wizardry?

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geoffcutler 2 months ago

Jim, household incomes are derived from income...jobs. Obama has done away with most of those in favor of food stamps and other entitlements. So, I guess the answer to your question is...the Federal Government.

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geoffcutler 2 months ago

Jim, still waiting for you to answer a couple of questions.

Did America get what she deserved on 9/11? Yes or No.

Should governments be able to tax retirement accounts to remain solvent? Yes or No.

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JimHeim 2 months ago

geoff - Silly question. People like Ron Paul, Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson said yes. That means the correct answer must be no.

Your second question is entirely disconnected from reality. If you think the situation in Cyprus could happen here, you are completely, totally, stunningly wrong. If the question is otherwise, I would never support it. I'm for immediately and substantially increasing Social Security benefits and wish Ronald Reagan hadn't started taxing them. Is that clear enough?

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JimHeim 2 months ago

I do not believe Spocks ever worked at a bank unless maybe as a janitor. How do I know? Anyone in the banking industry would know that the president doesn't 'print money.' If that were possible there would not be a national debt.

It is the function of the Federal Reserve to create and destroy money. At the moment they're creating it. They've pumped over $2 trillion into our banks in the last couple of years. Maybe more; it's hard to keep up. You won't see that money in the national debt number.

In the event we can get past Republican opposition and rev up the economy, the Fed will begin pulling that wealth our of the economy. It's how things work.

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geoffcutler 2 months ago

Nice non-answers there, Jim. Terry McAuliffe teach you that?

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JimHeim 2 months ago

geoff - I said nothing about household incomes. Read it again.

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JimHeim 2 months ago

geoff - So it's Obama stealing blacks' wealth, is it.? I'm sure you can think of a plausible theory for that, but let's look at something else.

Here is the same comparison made in 2007 when alleged Republican GW Bush was in the White House (and had been for many months with a Republican Congress): Whites, $151,100, African-Americans $9,600. Subtracting home values gives whites $45,900 and black households $400.

How did Obama manage to do that?

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DingoMike 2 months ago

Obama is no fiscal hawk. How the heck can a president say that the cut in the increase of goverment spending be a cut in the deficit? Jim, where the hell do you get your figures??? Blacks make 0.00 per year and the whites make 27,000 plus??? Her I was thinking that I was just the average guy, heck by your standards I'm a rich man. NOT!!!!!

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AFCHIEF 2 months ago

Heimy where did you get your numbers above about median income, pull them from you know where.

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LustyToads 2 months ago

AFChief: Heim was referring to median income in The People's Republic of Congo.

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LustyToads 2 months ago

Heim:

" I do not believe Spocks ever worked at a bank unless maybe as a janitor. How do I know? Anyone in the banking industry would know that the president doesn't 'print money.' If that were possible there would not be a national debt. "

This demonstrates precisely the magical thinking of Democrats who masquerade as economists.

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JimHeim 2 months ago

You guys need reading lessons. Where in that post was the word 'income' used? This may well explain your inability to deal with facts. You only see the words you want to see and make them up if necessary.

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geoffcutler 2 months ago

"geoff - In this country the median wealth of a white household is $110,729. For a black household it's $4,955. If you don't include home ownership it's whites $27,700 and blacks 0." Jim Heim

Well, Jim, if you don't like the word income, then call it household wealth. If the household wealth of $4,955. isn't derived from a job, then it has to come from government. Which is what I said. That is unless you can think of somewhere else the money might be coming from? That wealth might in fact increase were there available jobs.

Like I said, it's all power and gaining it by victimization.

You wonder who's taking all their money? Tell us, Jim...who's taking all their money?

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LustyToads 2 months ago

Geoff: They are taking your money and your grandchildren's money ...

Immoral, malevolent governance. We've seen it very clearly in our history, to wit: Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Bloomberg, Obama, prominent Progressives, all; a history that they are busy rewriting for our public schools via Common Core Curriculum.

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JimHeim 2 months ago

geoff - Let me throw in two more data points: Hispanic-American wealth $7,424. Without home equity, $100.

A single African-American woman has a median wealth of less than zero.

That you do not know why this is tells me volumes about you.

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AFCHIEF 2 months ago

Heimy where you getting all these numbers, Ed Shultz, Rachel Maddcow

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AFCHIEF 2 months ago

Heimy you so concerned about the wealth of blacks and Hispanics why don't you and your doctor wife adopt some local families since you guys are rolling in the dough

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pulledpork 2 months ago

Obama is a deficit hawk?? LOL!!! Obama has overseen adding 7 TRLLION dollars to our national debt... what are you smoking? Sad thing the libs are all as stupid as that comment and they are the majority of voters. It is all moot at this point. PPACA will be the official undoing of America. We will never be the same, due to the ignorance of folks like JimHeim and the national media turning into national propaganda. JimHeim, due yourself a favor and read Road to Serfdom by FA Hayek and then read Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky. Obama is executing before our eyes the playbook strategy to subvert a country from within as detailed by Saul Alinsky. Road to Serfdom by FA Hayek, need to read it!

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geoffcutler 2 months ago

Jim, you throw out these leading questions, and when asked what you mean...you don't answer. It must be difficult not being able to say what you want to say.

Jim...who is taking their money?

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JimHeim 2 months ago

geoff - I do not equate income with wealth. They are two very different variables. Still, it's interesting to speculate on why white households are so remarkably wealthy compared to non-whites. Most interesting indeed.

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geoffcutler 2 months ago

Well, you already answered that question. You said some mysterious someone is taking money from them? Who? How about we answer one question at a time. Shall we?

"Jim, household incomes are derived from income...jobs. Obama has done away with most of those in favor of food stamps and other entitlements. So, I guess the answer to your question is...the Federal Government." Me

What I said was there were precious little jobs, that Obama prefers his people on foodstamps and welfare. Some 47 million and climbing now. In that sense, who needs a job when Obama dioesn't care if you have one?

In favor of jobs, what did Obama work on during his first term? What executive order did he hand down regarding the work requirement and welfare? Hmm?

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geoffcutler 2 months ago

"Still, it's interesting to speculate on why white households are so remarkably wealthy compared to non-whites. Most interesting indeed." Jim Heim

Yes, very interesting. Since you bring it up, Jim, what's your explanation? I mean, since you seem so reluctant to answer the last question you posed, maybe you'll answer this one for us.

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Spocks_Brain 2 months ago

HEIM you dont know what you are talking about....banks have to earn a spread of over 5 per cent to stay profitable..I like how you say you would spend trillions to get he economy back in order...demand has to be organic..I go to Pure Gold because I want to and not cause some gay politician tells me too.- that my friend is organic demand-no pun intended..wow you are a freak. And you are head of Moore Dems? LMAO!

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JD 2 months ago

...demand has to be organic..I go to Pure Gold because I want to and not cause some gay politician tells me too

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Courseaire 2 months ago

I go there to read the articles.

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JimHeim 2 months ago

geoff - How could Obama be involved since this disparity is decades old. You'll have to put on that thinking cap and work a bit harder. There must be some hint of a reason that white families fare so much better than their non-white counterparts in this country.

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JimHeim 2 months ago

pulledpork - While that pork is not being pulled you might look and see that Mr Obama has reduced the deficit by a greater share than any recent president. Of course, with examples like Reagan and the two Bushes who jacked it way up, it's not too hard to do.

The deficit for 2013 will be under $1 trillion for the first time since 2009. How do you suppose he did that?

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AFCHIEF 2 months ago

Heimy I'll answer your question to Geoff. Maybe the reason white families fare better is because they are out working for a living instead of living on govt welfare programs, food stamps, free phones, etc.

Here is where you answer that I'm a racist

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Spocks_Brain 2 months ago

HEIM Ill bet you a hundred bucks the deficit comes in at 1.6trillion...they are already outpacing last years.. geez

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Spocks_Brain 2 months ago

I feel sorry for this guys wife having to listen to his idiotic garbage

Hey his wife the MD may be interested - just in 'looks like doctors will have to see groups of patients at the same time! lmao!

Sounds like Lenincare to me

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Features/Insuring-Your-Health/2013/031913-Michelle-Andrews-on-group-patient-appointments.aspx

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geoffcutler 2 months ago

Gosh, Jim, I just can't think of anything. But if I had to take a stab in the dark, you'd probably tell us it has something to do with racism.

Obama is involved because the more people he gets on to the government rolls, the more power in the central government, the more the need to tax the earners. That's why he removed the looking for work requirement for welfare, without Congressional approval, and also why more Americans are on food stamps than ever before. Pelosi even thinks food stamps stimulate the economy.

Once 60% of Americans are on government subsidy, Obama's goal, your Socialist wish will come true. I suppose you'll tell us you're not a Socialist now.

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JimHeim 2 months ago

geoff - And he started this nefarious plan decades before he was born. That man is a magician! You stand no chance.

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JimHeim 2 months ago

geoff - From The Economist: When Moody's Analytics assessed different forms of stimulus, it found that food stamps were the most effective, increasing economic activity by $1.73 for every dollar spent. Unemployment insurance came in second, at $1.62, whereas most tax cuts yielded a dollar or less.

I'm sure your experts are a lot smarter than them.

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geoffcutler 2 months ago

I didn't say he started it, Jim. Plenty like him did. It's just they weren't near as good at Socializing America as he is. You must be thrilled. And yet...we've seen these countries burn on the ash heaps of history. We're watching them burn now. What will be different this time, Jim? How will Socialism in America succeed when it's failed every where else it's been tried? Or do you just get some cheap thrill out of universal civilian misery and seeing nations destroyed from within?

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JimHeim 2 months ago

geoff - your socialism talk is simply daft. And as for the racism stuff, you guys make this way too easy.

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AFCHIEF 2 months ago

Heim, the only ones who are racists are the liberals who continue the minority dependence on welfare programs. The liberals don't care to make their life's better they are only concerned about the minority votes.

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pulledpork 2 months ago

This kind of statement is funny to me.... "pulledpork - While that pork is not being pulled you might look and see that Mr Obama has reduced the deficit by a greater share than any recent president. Of course, with examples like Reagan and the two Bushes who jacked it way up, it's not too hard to do.

The deficit for 2013 will be under $1 trillion for the first time since 2009. How do you suppose he did that?"

1, he is cutting back on his own profligate spending? lol!! Wow, he is really a hawk! All the smoke and mirrors and clever words cannot hide the fact that our national debt (as a result of tremendous EXPANSION ogf government spending) has increased more than 7 TRILLION dollars since he took office. More than all other presidents COMBINED... Dude is a Hawk!! :LOL

Watch what happens with PPACA, gonna get way worse... Road to Serfdom, we are on a road to Serfdom courtesy of one Barrack Hussein Obama..don't know why my letters increased, sorry about that, lol

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JimHeim 2 months ago

Porkpuller - The National Debt was over ten trillion dollars when Obama took office. How exactly is seven trillion more than that?

Wait! I've got it. Seven trillion is more than ten trillion for very large values of seven trillion. PP is a math wizard.

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JimHeim 2 months ago

afchief - Like duh! That wasn't the topic. Try harder.

I swear I could get a more intelligent debate talking about instrument landing techniques with third graders.

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geoffcutler 2 months ago

Jim, when you're honest about what it is you want, answer questions that are asked of you, and not move the goalposts around, changing the subject with each post, then maybe you'll get some intelligent debate. Till then, we'll just see you as the strangest Socialist on this site.

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AFCHIEF 2 months ago

Heimy, your the one spouting off lies about Obama reducing the deficit, no one else. We just want you to quit lying about it. As for intelligence the rest of here on these blogs know you like to lie about facts and we just love calling out your lies. Heimy, we are not blind ass liberals who watch Ed Shultz or Rachael Madcow and are ignorant to facts AND COMMON SENSE. So keep on with your lies and we'll continue to call BS.

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JimHeim 2 months ago

You guys are the source of my best material. Please keep it up.

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AFCHIEF 2 months ago

Heimy, will let's see this year if Obamanation can put out his budget before he goes on ESPN and predicts his Final 64 bracket. Doubt it!

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AFCHIEF 2 months ago

Heimy keep lying, ignoring us pointing out your lies will not make us stop and we are not going away

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geoffcutler 2 months ago

And you are the best source of mine.

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Thatcher 2 months ago

JimHeim-- I've read some of your posts here on economics and the federal budget/deficit/debt. I am sure you are a nice guy, but economics is not for you. I thought of rebutting what you had posted here, but the way I see it, no one here will believe your posts, because they are so silly...so why waste time. Cheers!

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Thatcher 2 months ago

JimHeim (6 hours, 26 min. ago)-- Aw, what the heck...I can't resist. [Food stamps are the most effective stimulus]..."increasing economic activity by $1.73 for every dollar spent." Really. Because, as you have claimed here often, the food stamp "money" is immediately spent into the economy to purchase food? Right? Tell us JimHeim, do folks who work and are not on food stamps delay buying food for their family? Do you do this, or do you buy food when you need to eat? So if you work, and are not on food stamps, and you buy food with your own money, you believe that's not as much of a "stimulus" as someone who uses food stamps to purchase their food? Please give it some thought. Cheers!

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LSM 2 months ago

@thatcher The famous “For every dollar spent on that program (food stamps), $1.73 is generated throughout the economy” is a conjecture by Mark Zandi of Moody’s way back in 2007. For more about Moody’s great work, please read:

Bad Credit: How S&P, Moody's and Fitch Helped Cause the Housing Bubble http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_162-43545062/bad-credit-how-s038p-moodys-and-fitch-helped-cause-the-housing-bubble/

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AFCHIEF 2 months ago

Heimy, guess what? This morning while drinking my morning coffee watching ESPN there it was, Obamanation making Final 64 picks in the Oval Office. Freaking unbelievable, his budget proposal was due Feb 4 and was not submitted but he can make final 64 picks instead.

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JimHeim 2 months ago

Thatcher - Don't ask me. I rely on experts. Maybe you can explain to Moody's Analytics how they could be so stupid. And The Economist for printing it. I'm sure they could use your advice.

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JimHeim 2 months ago

afchief - The March Madness picks are a lot more important than a budget that will just be a political football. Different season.

Tell you what, afchief, don't vote for him next time.

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JimHeim 2 months ago

LSM - Moody's Analytics is a subsidiary of Moody's and is not involved in the same issues. Or maybe you want to blame The Wall Street Journal for News Corps' wiretap issues in England.

Apples & Oranges - Learn the difference.

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JimHeim 2 months ago

As we celebrate the tenth anniversary of the worst foreign policy mistake in US history, let's take a moment to salute The Dixie Chicks, who spoke for so many of us at a critical time.

I think it's time to listen to 'Not Ready to Make Nice' again...and again.

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AFCHIEF 2 months ago

Heim 2 things.

First I would never have voted for the MOST UNQUALIFED PERSON EVER to be our President. Looking pretty and being able to give a good speech from a teleprompter iis not qualifications to be President.

Second, you missed a real good segment on the Morning Joe show yesterday. Yes I watch MNBC in the morning, not Fox and Friends. Anyways, the segmet showed how ALL the Democrats, Kerry, Hillary, Reid, Pelosi and several others FULLY SUPPORTED going to war against Iraq. But just like the proud liberal you are you quicky changed your tune for politcal reasons.

And once again you give Obamanation a free pass for his failed leadership abilites to propose a budget.

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JimHeim 2 months ago

afchief - you saw some lies. Joe and his staff edited the videos to give a false picture. Naturally, you didn't know the difference.That said, too many Democrats who should have known better fell for Bush-Cheney lies. Others thought they were giving a Bush the benefit of the doubt. Big mistake.

We spent trillions and saw deaths by the hundreds of thousands for no purpose at all.

Where are those weapons of mass destruction?

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AFCHIEF 2 months ago

So all the dems who pounded the war wagons were just making it up . You sure are out there in la la land

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geoffcutler 2 months ago

Worst foreign policy mistake if you're a liberal revisionist historian, you mean. See lead editorial, " Iraq in Retrospect" in this morning's WSJ. Also worth a look, under Notable & Quotable: W's address to Israel's Knesset, May 15, 2008. What a difference between our relations with Israel then and the bungling of this president now.

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JimHeim 2 months ago

I read it. Balderdash, as usual. WSJ's editorial page is the province of the nutcases. It gives me my morning laugh.

We were told the cost would be 50-70 billion. It's passed three trillion and climbing. What did we accomplish, exactly?

I hear Obama's being given some kind of important award in Israel. I guess they don't share your opinion.

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geoffcutler 2 months ago

Yes, Jim, it would be balderdash to someone who has neither truth nor reason on his side.

The Iraqi dictator "threatens the safety of his people, the stability of his region, and the security of all the rest of us. Some day, some way, I guarantee you, he'll use the arsenal." Bill Clinton

The Iraq Liberation Act which made regime change an official US policy was passed 360-38 in the house.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." Nancy Pelosi

Nope...no leftist revisionist history. None at all.

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JimHeim 2 months ago

It doesn't matter how many or how few there are, wrong is wrong. The war's architects lied and misled us into that war for purposes of their own. They are war criminals.

The fact that a lot of Democrats bought those lies should be educational. It's the same technique the tobacco companies used to convince people that their product was safe. Energy companies are spending hundreds of millions in an attempt to conceal global warming. Pete Peterson has spent hundreds of millions to convince you that Social Security is in trouble. Lies repeated often enough have an effect.

Practiced propagandists can be very successful. They got us into an unprovoked, illegal war. I didn't buy it at the time and I am still opposed today.

You can blather about votes all you like, but you're still way short on all of the blessings that war brought to us or the Iraqis.

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JimHeim 2 months ago

afchief - Oooops:

The hosts MSNBC’s Morning Joe on Wednesday apologized after selectively editing a clip of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) to suggest that she had wanted President George W. Bush to invade Iraq.

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