Could It Happen?
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I dreamt last night that the CEO for the NRA was speaking at a rally at Ed’s Gun Store, and state representatives were there to support the Second Amendment.
“We’re drawing a line in the sand,” he said. “No additional gun checks; no ban on semi-automatic assault rifles; no ban on high-capacity clips; we support your right to own these weapons; we will not let the government change your rights.” The crowd roared approval.
Just then a van pulled up. Ten members of a Muslim radical group climbed out and went into the shop, which had an ample supply of the items in question.
The 10 men said each wanted to purchase an assault rifle, four high-capacity clips holding 100 rounds each, and 1,000 rounds of ammunition.
The clerk was nervous, but each man presented a valid N.C. license and even a 2013 property tax bill indicating all were property owners.
By now the store was filling up with the curious from the rally. Some were muttering, “What do they want?”
“Just our guns and ammo,” was the reply.
The clerk was reluctant to honor their requests. Just then, the guest speaker and the politicians came into the shop. The Muslim radicals turned to the NRA representative and asked him to defend their Second Amendment rights.
The CEO and the politicians were speechless and had pale faces with beads of perspiration on their foreheads. The crowd was angry now and looked to the politicians for the expected answer.
And then I woke up. I wondered, did the CEO and politicians support them or yield to what the crowd wanted? Did they wish that reasonable guidelines, mutually agreed upon after rational discussion, were in place to cover this circumstance?
And I thought, “Could this really happen?”
Matt Farina
Southern Pines
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JimRussell44 2 months ago
I can't believe I beat skylinefirepest to be the first to comment. Great letter, Mr.Farina!! Can't wait to see what "pest" and his buddies have to say.
dustyrhoades 2 months ago
Which will win: their love of the right to bear arms or their hatred of Muslims? Stay tuned.
For sure: (1) Spocks_Brain will try to make this about gays. (2)Someone (probably wdd) will try to revive the moribund Fast and Furious non-scandal. (3) Preacher Geoff will keep up his trolling by demanding that I write the column about Muslims that he can't. (4) AFCHIEF will rave like an angry drunk. (5) And Thatcher will go "cheers!"
Courseaire 2 months ago
Courseaire will try to find a joke about it. Moon will accuse all the EVIL CAPITALIST PIGS & Reagan.
mymindwanders 2 months ago
I would love to find a gun shop with ample supply right now.that would be a dream come true.
geoffcutler 2 months ago
(6) And Dusty will act the ass that he always does and turn the rest of the thread into meaningless drivel.
Matt, if you (and presumably everyone else at your rally) know, or even suspect that your ten men might be members of a radical Muslim group, then it's more than likely The FBI and Homeland Security will be called.They would then determine whether the guns should be sold. You have heard of Homeland Security, yes? It came into being after 9/11.
MichaelFlorence 2 months ago
Well lets see:
No Assault weapon would be sold because fully automatic weapons are banned unless you have a Federal License to own and possess such a weapon, Two to purchase a legally obtained semi-automatic weapon like you are trying to talk about a phone call is placed to the Federal Government to do an instant background check on whoever is purchasing that type of weapon, Three with the current state of things no gun shop in America has 10 of those weapons lying around for sale, and they barely have any ammo laying around also. However if those 10 gentleman have valid ID, pass the Federal Background check, and pay for the weapons then let them do it.
skylinefirepest 2 months ago
Well, JimR, I see I don't even have to comment...the last few should answer any questions you might have about it. And they couldn't get assault rifles at Ed's anyway so Matt's dream was just a midnight fantasy!!
skylinefirepest 2 months ago
Oh, and I hate to tell you but I have personally seen Ed refuse to sell to certain people who even had the "right credentials." As owner of the store it is entirely his business who he sells to and he can refuse you if he doesn't like your aftershave...nothing says that he HAS to sell you anything.
JimHeim 2 months ago
skyline - I don't suppose white people have much of a problem at Ed's.
It's good that someone is around to deny certain Americans their right to bear arms.
Courseaire 2 months ago
I had problem with Ed once but a nice Dr & a 20 yr old took care of it.
Thatcher 2 months ago
DR (2 hours, 51 min. ago)-- "And Thatcher will go 'cheers!'" Not sure what I said here to deserve your shout out, or why you seem to find the word "Cheers" somehow offensive. Please let us know. Cheers!
geoffcutler 2 months ago
That is if (7) Jim Heim doesn't beat him to it. Nice play of the race card, Jim,
JimHeim 2 months ago
geoff - Thanks. Always glad to see my work appreciated.
Pappy 2 months ago
Matt...don't worry about it. If the people in your dream want guns all they have do is go to Mr Holder's office and get them for free !!!
mymindwanders 2 months ago
"Reasonable Guidelines, Mutually agreed upon after Rational Discussion. " yep, it was a dream...
dustyrhoades 2 months ago
Okay, we've seen (2) and (5), anc Courseaire....fulfilled his own prediction.
Okay, let's still award him the point.
skylinefirepest 2 months ago
Heim, you're making bald faced suppositions based on no evidence and no knowledge of Ed's Gunshop or Ed Nicely, the owner. I would think you owe him an apology as I also have personally seen him sell firearms to people of all colors. What a snotty comment from the head of the Demorat party in Moore County. But to be expected, I guess. But you are also equally ignorant about firearms in general so I don't really expect an informed comment from you. We're waiting for that apology, Jim. And I'm sure that Dusty will tell you that you can get your butt sued for that kind of unfounded comment...least that's what he tells us when he doesn't like our arguing with him.
JimRussell44 2 months ago
So let's review what we have so far: 1) The plot of Mr. Farina's dream could never happen because no gun stores have that kind of stock on their shelves. 2) The dream is flawed because there are no such weapons available to the public. 3) If Muslim radicals with all the proper documentation try to purchase these items, Homeland Security must be called immediately. 4) One person says if they have all the proper documentation, they should be allowed to purchase whatever they want. 5) The "pest" says the owner could just refuse to sell to them, even if they met all the legal qualifications to purchase. While several attempted to avoid answering the question by finding fault with the premise, it looks like the consensus is to deny the purchase even if all the proper documentation is in order. So tell me again guys, how does that Constitution work?
skylinefirepest 2 months ago
JimR...how ridiculous...if the government that you love so much clears them then by all means sell them the semi-auto rifles that they desire!! All I said was that Ed is the OWNER of his shop and can refuse to sell to you or me or any other person that he might not want to sell to. ( and immediately Jimmy The Lib Heim declared Ed to be racist ) It's his option. Comprende?? And you are absolutely correct in stating that the "assault weapons" they want to purchase are not available to private hands without a class 3 certification. Ok??
Yukonjohn 2 months ago
This is where l part company with many on this thread. I sell to them. Period. If they are Americans, with the correct paperwork and no infractions that would disqualify them, you sell to them as you would to any other American. Granted, 99% of world terrorist these days wear tablecloths on their head, if they are Americans with no restrictions, you sell to them, just as you would one of the boys from Duck Dynasty. If they use these weapons against someone is a crime, you kill them on Friday, their sabbath. You do it publically and with much fanfare, just as they would do in Riyadh. We should be doing this anyway!!
alladat1 2 months ago
Skyline -"Well, JimR, I see I don't even have to comment........." Then proceeds to comment & comment & comment....................
fatboy 2 months ago
geoffcutler15 hours, 22 minutes ago
(6) And Dusty will act the ass that he always does and turn the rest of the thread into meaningless drivel.
Priceless!!!
JimHeim 2 months ago
I see every Republican senator voting on the gun safety bill in committee voted no. I guess someone is willing to safeguard the second amendment rights of jihadists and the criminally insane. Nice work.
mymindwanders 2 months ago
Viva La Rifleucion...
dustyrhoades 2 months ago
Skyline -"Well, JimR, I see I don't even have to comment........." Then proceeds to comment & comment & comment....................
Yep. Like a dog chasing a ball.
by dustyrhoades
JimRussell44 2 months ago
I am sorry to see the "Pope" thread closed. But, since it is, we have to declare a winner. We take you ringside now for the official announcement from Michael Buffer: "Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a unanimous decision from all three judges here at ringside. Judge jimt has it 100 to 0; Judge Thatcher has it 51 to 49 and Judge Heim has it 100 to 0...all in favor of Dusty "The Funny Guy" Rhoades, the Heavyweight Champion of Mirth. When he finally comes around, it is expected that the Challenger, Geoff "Pretty Boy" Cutler will request a rematch. His handlers say they may request a different format next time, one that limits the contestants to only using words that start with "X".
JimRussell44 2 months ago
Na'am".
dustyrhoades 2 months ago
Hee! Thank you very much.
John Cleese says thank you very much by parancsmegtagado
Yukonjohn 2 months ago
Somebody please explain to me why a person with a twelve inch high afro, someone in the full dress of a saudi, someone in a clown suit, or someone that looks like he just got out of the tobacco field not be able to purchase a firearm from Ed's or any other gun shop if they have the correct paperwork, it is obvious that it is them, they have no other restrictions????
skylinefirepest 2 months ago
They do have that right Yukon!
dustyrhoades 2 months ago
Somebody please explain to me why a person with a twelve inch high afro, someone in the full dress of a saudi, someone in a clown suit, or someone that looks like he just got out of the tobacco field not be able to purchase a firearm from Ed's or any other gun shop
Actually, I would LOVE to see that.
JimHeim 2 months ago
Speaking of firearms, I see that the 1.6 billion bullet thing was bogus. Turns out to be 450 million...over five years. Given the number of federal agencies with armed personnel, that doesn't seem like the makings of a government revolt.
Let the paranoia continue...
Yukonjohn 2 months ago
I believe so too skylinefirepest! And they can possess them just as you and l, and if and when they use them against another human being, kill them. Period. Fast easy trial, then put them right up in the circle in Carthage and behead them, hang them from one of those big old trees, or shoot them. Period. Let everyone see it, and even televise it. Crime would take a whole new venue if we did this regularly. I am not a huge fan of capital punishment, but l have been in countries, one's in the middle east, where crime is next to nonexistent!! We could have that too.
Yukonjohn 2 months ago
l agree Jim Heim. Now maybe bullet making companies will see how they can make a fortune right about now, and increase production by 1000%!!!!
Hey skylinefire,m it just came to me....once again, the left is attacking the tool, not the criminal that uses it. Hell, anyone that is not otherwise precluded from gun ownership should be able to buy one without anything more than a simple background check AT MOST. Then if they use it criminally, make them pay dearly!!! Lawful gun owners are not the problem here!!!
dustyrhoades 2 months ago
JimHeim: they're not buying tanks, either.
JimHeim 2 months ago
Yukonjohn - There are precious few lawful gun owners. Haven't you been reading what they say here? If assault weapons are outlawed they'll ignore the law. That's not quite the definition of a law-abiding citizen.
JimHeim 2 months ago
Dusty - That one's even funnier than the billion bullet thing. They claim that they're seeing MRAPs in towns all over the country.
Must be something in the water? Fracking fluid?
And how about Jefferson Davis' 'direct descendant' at CPAC yesterday defending slavery and segregation. And he's from North Carolina!
AFCHIEF 2 months ago
DR the little boy who was bullied as a kid now the #1 online blogger bully.
dustyrhoades 2 months ago
It's always good to be #1.
dustyrhoades 2 months ago
Oh, and Chief just fulfilled prediction #4.
AFCHIEF 2 months ago
In your case being #1 is not a good thing.
dustyrhoades 2 months ago
by dustyrhoades
skylinefirepest 2 months ago
Jim Heim, dude you are either a liar or just purposefully ignorant. Haven't you bothered to take a couple of minutes out of your heavy schedule as leader of the MoorDems and establish that ordinary citizens are not allowed to have or hold assault weapons??? Since it should be fairly common knowledge you are either ignoring on purpose or lying. Not a surprise either way for you!!!
DingoMike 2 months ago
Matt, I was glad to see that you started the column off with the correct term for the type of weapons that you can buy. If the radical muslims that you saw in your dream did have all the necessary legal right to purchase the weapons in question that I say, sell them. The muslims have radicals as well as the christians, neither religion has a monopoly on that. The one that I think of is from the middle ages where the faithful were sent off to the crusades with the blessing of the church. The caveat to this is 'the middle ages'. I just have a problem with a religion that feels that cutting off the head of a live human being and then putting the video of the killing on the internet, just a tad outside the norm. Dusty, what is it with you and the pasteing of the pictures and cartoons? Your fingers getting sore. you are acting like a spoiled 3rd grader on the playground. Your over 35 years of age, grow up!! Cheers. By the way that is how the british soldiers I met said good bye, and hello. Those guys had guts, went out on patrol in Kandahar without armored vehicles.
Thatcher 2 months ago
Yukon! Great to see you here, and great posts! We got up to 80 degrees here today, and my giant Bradford Pear trees are almost in full white blossom. Feels like late spring. I do chuckle at the attempts of some liberals to imply that conservatives are racists who only support the Second Amendment for white people. Sad, but also funny. They appear to know nothing about conservatives, nothing about the Second Amendment, and nothing about guns. Yet they imply a racist element in all three. Like I said, sad...but too funny! Be well my friend, and stay warm up there! Cheers!
Thatcher 2 months ago
DingoMike-- "Cheers. By the way that is how British soldiers I met said good bye, and hello. Those guys had guts, went on patrol in Kandahar without armored vehicles." Well said!! My dad was career Air Force, and flew B-52s. One of his best friends who was stationed on base with us in 1971 was Peter Belsham, a Brit with the RAF (this was during Viet Nam). Belsham always said "cheers." My dad so admired this man for his intelligence and bravery. Unfortunately, a few years after my dad retired from the Air Force, he received a letter informing him that Belsham had died from cancer. My dad sent me hundreds of letters and notes while I was in undergrad and grad school, and he always signed off with "Cheers!" I got it honest. Thanks again, DingoMike, for sharing that story...it brought back some of my favorite memories. Be well. And of course, Cheers!
buskwon 2 months ago
Tractor Supply is coming.
JimHeim 2 months ago
skyline - The Assault Weapons Ban did not outlaw the possession of such firearms, so even when it expired, legal ownership was unchanged.
It is entirely legal to own and possess an assault weapon. Some of us frown on their use in first grade classrooms.
ninesyspup 2 months ago
To Jim Heim,
Would you feel better if he had used a shotgun? ( IE Stewart at Pinelakes) I frown on any weapon used other than its lawful purpose.
skylinefirepest 2 months ago
Heim, you are just another liar! You have to have class three certification to own an assault weapon as a civilian and an assault weapon was NOT used in any of the mass shootings in the last many years. In fact I'll bet you have to really research to find when an actual assault weapon has been used since the roaring twenties when they were legal for everyone. But the facts don't matter to the extreme liberal left, do they?? You'll lie and finagle, with the help of the liberal press, until you get what you want...which is not gun control, just simply control! You'll remember another famous leader who disarmed his people, won't you??? So you don't really frown on the use of anything you can call an assault weapon as long as it furthers your control agenda. I'm ashamed that the Pilot would like to know who has firearms...it's none of their business and only puts the firearms owners in danger of being robbed.
mymindwanders 2 months ago
I got one or two or three or more. "Do you feel lucky punk. Well, Do ya"...
Yukonjohn 2 months ago
My stepson just brought home a 12 ga. shotgun with a 10 round clip. I doubt there is any weapon that could do more damage than that. It is also made from black composite material, with a collapsable stock and handgrip that can make it look like an assault rifle to the untrained eye. I am glad he got it. It just adds to our level of protection in our house. I feel sure he is mentally OK and will handle this weapon with the care needed. Glad he has it.
geoffcutler 2 months ago
Just in from target practice with an S&W AR-15. Wow! Matt, I'm quite sure now the FBI or Homeland Security should to do a little pre-screening on your van load of radical Muslims.
JimHeim 2 months ago
skyline - Congress defined what constitutes an assault weapon. An AR-15, for instance, fits the government definition. You are allowed to own one. Prove me wrong.
JimHeim 2 months ago
Skyline - I've accused no one of racism in this thread. We're discussing a dream.
JimHeim 2 months ago
Shoitguns should not be a big problem - so long as they're limited to two shells before reloading.
AFCHIEF 2 months ago
Heimy so you want shotguns to be able to hold 2 rounds? Now that is very liberal of you.
geoffcutler 2 months ago
Jim's goal isn't restriction or limited gun control. He just can't say what he really wants. His DNC handlers and talking points manual won't let him push for confiscation of all firearms. Not yet, anyway.
mymindwanders 2 months ago
Jimhiem-so now you want to limit how many rounds my shotgun can shoot before I Reload. Where does it stop with you? Even the law says it can hold more than that. Oh, that's right you want to change the all the laws right? Next thing you know, you will be wanting me to only use my handgun for a hammer.and then you will limit the number of swings of the hammer at anytime.what a world you must live in...
geoffcutler 2 months ago
http://www.aclu.org/criminal-law-reform/aclu-launches-nationwide-investigation-police-use-military-technology-tactics
Jim, is this a fake, too?
skylinefirepest 2 months ago
Jimmy H...you didn't accuse Ed Nicely of racism?...dude, you might do well to go back and actually read what your comment was...sure sounded racist to me, and others. And an AR15 is not an assault rifle as it is semi-auto. Assault rifles are full auto. Wow, there is a difference and we both know that the last "assault rifle" ban was a bs fully political ploy played by who?? Oh yes, the liberal Democrats! And the liberal demo's described semi-auto rifles as assault rifles...didn't make it so but they called them that anyway. And you know that. You are fully aware of that distinction and so...makes you out a liar intentionally, doesn't it??? So you do subscribe to the idiot Biden's method of self defense, huh? Would you tell your doctor spouse to fire two shots, just blast two shots out the door, if threatened? Besides being against the law, what she has then is a club...do you really want your wife to have a club for self defense Jim?? I suppose that's up to you...but I want my wife to have thirty rounds of tracer in her AR15, Jim...so that the punks can see what's coming at them!!
mymindwanders 2 months ago
AMEN to that, Jack!!!
AFCHIEF 2 months ago
Sky, Heimy would push his wife out the door and go hide if an intruder showed up.
reformgov1 2 months ago
I also had a dream also Matt. That several non-Americans came to America and did the following: completed training in flight schools, practiced flying on video game simulators, bought pocket knives and razor blades, bought plane tickets, used the knives and razor blades to take over the planes, flew them into buildings and killed thousands. Wait a minute......that really happened! But did the government permanently close all flight schools and ban the sell of knives, razor blades and flight simulator video games? No.
skylinefirepest 2 months ago
Excellent comment reformgov1, but don't wait for Heimy to change his spots. If the democrats change their names to Republicans then he'll go right along with them. Not an honest spot on his hide!
JimHeim 2 months ago
geoff - Apples-oranges.
We are deeply concerned about the militarization of the nation's police. It's an entirely separate issue from your billions of bullets and phantom MRAP fantasies.
geoffcutler 2 months ago
So this one concerns you?
reformgov1 2 months ago
No jim, it’s all rotten bananas. It’s liberals wanting to restrict things that the liberals don’t think others should have. If a liberal doesn’t like the food a restaurant is serving, then they shouldn’t eat there, but no…the liberals will seek to close the restaurant so no one can eat there. Gun Control is simply about liberals wanting to control certain types of guns that honest American’s can buy and own…nothing more.
geoffcutler 2 months ago
I'm confused, Jim, you want our guns but are concerned that the police are militarizing? Why do think the second amendment gives us the right to bear arms? And, it's not really apples and oranges. It's all part and parcel of liberals not knowing where they're leading us.
Pappy 2 months ago
I'll have two 16oz sodas please !!!
Yukonjohn 2 months ago
Yep, I sure am glad we are not going to be subjected to that kind of laws. Our legislators have passed a bill that will allow us to possess firearms, irregardless of what the federal law says. They are still debating whether or not to arrest Federal Agents that try and take weapons from law abiding Alaskans. Hopefully other states will follow suit and put the federal government in their proper place.
Yukonjohn 2 months ago
"Government is not the giver of rights; only God confers these to the people. People create government, giving it certain and limited powers. Only eternal vigilance by the people will confine government to its proper role."
I wish l could claim this, but it was said many times by a good friend of mine, Joe Vogler. He ran for Governor of Alaska several times, and is buried in Dawson City Yukon Territory, not wanting to be buried under the American Flag, after seeing what was happening in our country.
JimHeim 2 months ago
geoff - I'm happy to help demilitarize the police. But keep in mind it's entirely unrelated to the myth of a federal arms build-up.
JimHeim 2 months ago
reform - The government had the airlines harden their cockpit doors and enhanced pre-boarding security. Problem vastly reduced.
That's how we solve problems. We examine the issue and take steps to reduce the incidence. I realize that it's important to conservatives to see that our children get diabetes early in life, but maybe not before being slaughtered in their classrooms. And it's critical that the supply of arms to al Qaeda and the world's drug cartels be unimpeded. But I'll still side with those who choose to reduce all of that.
JimHeim 2 months ago
geoff - The second amendment was never about using arms against the police. Ever.
Don't believe me? Try it.
geoffcutler 2 months ago
Jim, I understand that, but inexplicably, the money is coming from the federal government. Why? The ACLU wants to know. Amazing in and of itself. It's all the same, Jim. It's all the same.
By the way, hope you'll have the chance to read, "My Unrecognizable Democratic Party" by Ted Van Dyk in today's WSJ.