Ground to Conquer

JimRussell44 3 months, 4 weeks ago

Mr. Harmody writes a letter designed to rile up the masses and put down the President. Those who read every word will pick out the key word in his diatribe..."may". President Obama did not propose legislation that "will" violate the 2nd amendment. He did not proposes legislation that "might" violate the 2nd amendment. He made proposals that are already in effect for other classes of weapons. We are not plowing new ground here. Because of letter writers like Mr. Harmody and commenter's on these boards who live in fear, guns are flying off the shelves, ammunition can't be kept in stock. It is not the President causing these things to happen, it is fear in the tiny little brains of the sheep who are being told by their handlers that the President wants to take away your right to keep and bear arms.

JimHeim 3 months, 4 weeks ago

Yeah, I get it. The wholesale massacre of first-graders is good for business. The NRA gets a quarter-million new members, kid-killer rifle manufacturers make money hand over fist, and, best of all, six-year-olds are a renewable resource. No matter how many you shoot today, there will be a new crop next year. Win-win.

What's not to like? How can psychotic killers not be a well-regulated Militia?

skylinefirepest 3 months, 4 weeks ago

Jim Heim, you're showing your true colors again, bright red...if you don't like guns then don't buy them. Other than that stay the devil out of everyone else's business. Just like the liberal loonie ideology. JimR you are hinting that semi-auto rifles are a "class" that may be banned...and that's why we fear this yahooo of a president...he is playing a purely political game and it will backfire on the Dems in the mid terms.

JimRussell44 3 months, 4 weeks ago

Skylinefirepest, the President is not the only one who wants to see semi-automatic weapons and large capacity ammunition magazines banned. You need to "fear" many millions of people in this country. But that should be easy, ya'll are so good at being afraid, PS: Glad you are back from your hospital procedure.

JimHeim 3 months, 4 weeks ago

When Obama took office the economy was in free-fall. He proposed a stimulus package that prevented a full-scale depression but was too small to do restore the growth we need. I notice that Republicans were fresh out of ideas and haven't come up with a workable plan since.

skylinefirepest 3 months, 4 weeks ago

Workable plan Jimmy H?? As if you loonie liberals have one, right?? Bankrupt America and the dems will be happy as hoot owls, right?? Jimmy, I hate to say it but you ain't got the common sense God gave a tree rat!

JimHeim 3 months, 4 weeks ago

Corporate profits at an all time high, reduced oil imports, record oil and gas drilling, falling unemployment, low taxes.

I missed the bankruptcy.

AFCHIEF 3 months, 4 weeks ago

Heim the so called Stimulus WITH "SHOVEL READY PROJECTS" that Obama admitted were not true. Another Obama lie.

JimRussell44 3 months, 4 weeks ago

Here's an idea for all you who proclaim the country is at the brink of ruin under the Obama administration: invest in the stock market instead of weapons.

dustyrhoades 3 months, 4 weeks ago

he is playing a purely political game and it will backfire on the Dems in the mid terms.

Pest, I missed where you were in the hospital. Hope you're well.

Unfortunately, whatever anesthesia they gave you seems to have erased your memory of how for the last four years, wingers were claiming that this thing or that proposal was going to 'backfire" on the Democrats and doom Obama's re-election. How'd that work out for you?

Meanwhile, in the reality based community, polls show a majority of Americans back President Obama's gun control proposals. You remember what happened the last time you goobers ignored the polls, don't you?

dustyrhoades 3 months, 4 weeks ago

Americans are in favor of President Barack Obama's proposal to curb gun violence, according to a new Washington Post/ABC News poll released Thursday. The poll found that 53 percent view Obama's overall plan favorably after he announced it last week at the White House. By comparison, 41 percent view it unfavorably. There is a deep partisan divide in the results, but self-identified Independents view it favorably by a 51-44 split. The ABC/WaPo poll closely mirrors the results of a Gallup poll released on Wednesday, which found broad support for nine key measures in Obama's plan. Significantly, though, Gallup did not attach the proposals to Obama's name — but they did ask questions using language from the White House's plan. Like Gallup, the ABC/WaPo survey reveals that more people favor stricter gun legislation when Obama's name is not attached to the ideas. In a poll taken earlier this month, ABC/WaPo found at least 55 percent support for six different gun measures — universal background checks, background checks at gun shows, a federal gun database, a ban on high-capacity magazines, a ban on assault weapons, and armed school guards. According to Gallup, at least 54 percent of respondents favored each of nine of Obama's key proposals — when his name was not included. But only 53 percent of respondents said they would want their representative to vote for the laws proposed by Obama, compared with 41 percent who did not.

dustyrhoades 3 months, 4 weeks ago

Heim the so called Stimulus WITH "SHOVEL READY PROJECTS" that Obama admitted were not true

Funny, I seem to remember my neighbor's paving company getting some of those and employing a bunch of new people.

Another incoherent spew of BS Faux News talking points from AFDRUNK.

packwilleat 3 months, 4 weeks ago

In order for the government to create jobs it must first take that money from someone else. Since our current government can not sustain on tax revenue alone to create such jobs, we are now indebted to the federal reserve and other countries around the world. What's the deficit to GDP ratio now, 102% and climbing higher. Try running your life on these practices and you will end up in court or jail.

packwilleat 3 months, 4 weeks ago

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JimHeim 3 months, 4 weeks ago

packwill - That's incorrect. In order to get the money to create jobs the government must print it. It's that simple. That's also why we can never go bankrupt. That's not to say that there aren't hazards to be avoided, but in our economy wealth is created by deficit spending and is removed from the economy by running a surplus.

We didn't get into his mess by over spending. We got into this mess when the financial sector bungled their jobs and cratered the world's economy. If we put Americans back to work (and put out health care system in order) the deficit will go away.

Cart, horse; it matters which one goes where.

packwilleat 3 months, 3 weeks ago

JimH ~ no offence but that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Just study some history on what happens when nations devalue their currencies. You'll find a remarkable correlation between devalueation and economic collapse. History is against you and Keynesian economics.

Yukonjohn 3 months, 3 weeks ago

OMG, I did not read Jim's comment until l read yours Pack. I am in agreement with you Pack!! Jim, are you really serious? I guess if that is what you believe, that is what you believe, but partner, you are absolutely incorrect!! How can the Democrat party believe this? Remarkable. No wonder we are so far apart, we will never be anywhere near each other if this philosophy is their belief. Sorry Jim, but this is 180 degrees off what any conservative knows to be the case. I am sorry you have been so mislead.

JimHeim 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Where do think wealth comes from - a fairy? Grow up.

Yukonjohn 3 months, 3 weeks ago

It comes from private enterprise creating jobs for regular joe's in America!! You think that govt is the "job creating" machine that drives our economy? No wonder you and your party is so far out of tune and wrecking our nation.

JimHeim 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Guys, tell me you're kidding? Are you seriously suggesting that you don't understand modern monetary theory - the system that's governed the world's economies since we abandoned the gold standard? How can you possibly have worthwhile opinions on fiscal matters if you don't grasp the underlying rules?

Why do you think that every period in this nation's history with a balanced budget resulted in recession? Why do you think that the nation's academic economists are not screaming for deficit reduction at a time when a larger deficit is what our economy needs? Look around. The only voices calling for federal budget cuts are conservative politicians. Actual economists know better.

And so should you.

AFCHIEF 3 months, 3 weeks ago

DR see you back now that traffic court is not in session.

Chew on this, and guess what it's not from Foxnews.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20019468-503544.html

Thatcher 3 months, 3 weeks ago

JimHeim-- Golly, I'm just a novice at economics, and I'd like to know more about this "modern economic theory" of which you speak. So wealth is created by the government printing money? And wealth is "removed" by the government running a surplus? As an aside, why then, do Democrats crow about Clinton's "surplusses?" Can you tell us how much wealth Clinton "removed" by running these surplusses? If I recall correctly, you once posted here that Clinton built in "structural surplusses" which would last for a decade. But forget Clinton, and forget what you posted before. I like your new "modern economic theory," so much so that I want the government to print a billion for each of my kids, a billion for Yukon, a billion for Pack, a billion for geoff, a billion for JimRussell44, and a billion for each of my friends on here and elsewhere. This is the coolest thing ever...the government can eliminate unemployment by printing then giving everyone a billion dollars so that no one even needs to work anymore. I LOVE this idea. But out of curiosity, is this how you claim Obama cut the deficit by $2.4 trillion? Heck, I don't even care anymore! Everyone is going to be a billionaire! Cheers!

Yukonjohn 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Jim, There is an economic book that could possibly help you. It is "What ever happened to penny candy" and is written by Richard Maybury.

Question: Do you believe that for every dollar printed, every other dollar in circulation is worth less? If not, how is it not? While none of my business, do you run your household like this? Just write more checks, or put more on the credit card, because it will make you more wealthy? I believe you are wrong on so many levels, I just do not know where to even start. Maybe we should have a poll on here.

How many people believe as Jim has stated that America NEEDS to run a deficit to have a better economy? How many do not? I would be curious. I think it may be ....so many to 1, you. I am sorry, but it is so hard for me to even comprehend your thinking, and how you would rise to the top of any party in Moore, or any other, county.

fugitiveguy 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Obama says adding $4 trillion to debt is unpatriotic. by maywhitley31

Jim, was Obama dead wrong then or dead wrong now? His presidency seems to have contradicted one of the few things he said while campaigning that I whole heartedly agreed with.

Yukonjohn 3 months, 3 weeks ago

fugitiveguy...wait...wait.......wait.....

fugitiveguy 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Sometimes I think old Jim H is just messing with us. To think up and post some of the most bizarre crap he can fathom just to get us to argue against the ridiculous. And just like old Larry the cableguy he never breaks character.

AFCHIEF 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Fugitive, come on man Obama is allowed to change his mind did you really think the media is going to call him out on him adding $6 trillion to the debt.

Thatcher 3 months, 3 weeks ago

fugitiveguy-- With all due respect to JimHeim, and based upon his posts, he does not know enough about economics to joke with anyone about it. Same with the Second Amendment. By the way, you get a billion too! Cheers!

fugitiveguy 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Thanks Thatcher, I must admit I was feeling a bit left out.

Thatcher 3 months, 3 weeks ago

One of my all-time favorite JimHeim quotes (4 hours, 4 min. ago): "Where do you think wealth comes from-- a fairy? Grow up." Amazing analysis. Cheers!

JimHeim 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Evolution, global warming and now MMT. You guys crack me up.

Thatcher 3 months, 3 weeks ago

fugitiveguy-- I'm one of your biggest fans here! Fret not, for I have arranged for you to receive $2 billion. I checked with JimHeim about whether the government had this money, and he replied, "It's the government, not a fairy. Full stop." Your check should be there soon. Cheers my friend!

Thatcher 3 months, 3 weeks ago

JimHeim (9 min. ago)-- "Evolution, global warming and now MMT. You guys crack me up." Please be fair here: not everyone on this site has the same level of expertise as you do on these subjects (or for that matter, on any subject). So slow down your typing so that we can try to follow along. Cheers!

Yukonjohn 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Guys, I want one of them coins!!! Get me a trillion. Can average Joe's get them one of those? If it gets stolen, wonder how much it would be worth on the black market? I really thought they were kidding about the coin, but obviously it was me that lives in fairy land!! If l can't have one of those coins, l guess a billion would work.

Thatcher 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Yukon! Your attitude hurts my feelings. According to JimHeim, wealth comes from the government, not a fairy. You are only entitled to your "fair share" of the wealth, which in this case is $1 billion. If you want $1 trillion, you'd better be a Democrat Chairman or it ain't happening. What I've learned here tonight is that government makes the wealth not some fairy! So Yukon, you'd better take your $1 billion unless you think some crazy magic fairy is going to give you $1 trillion. Cheers my friend!

Yukonjohn 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Thatcher, fugitiveguy, packwilleat, skylinefirepest, afchief...all conservatives, l swear, this is about the most bizarre thiing l have ever heard in my 56 yrs. You couldn't make this up, no way, no how. I hope they are right, heck, l am tired of working all my life to try and get ahead. If they are right, we can kick back now, the govt. is going to take care of us.

The founders are rolling in their graves.

Thatcher 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Yukon! "I hope they (JimHeim, et.al.) are right...." When has JimHeim ever been wrong about anything? Ha! Cheers my friend!

JimRussell44 3 months, 3 weeks ago

I don't want no stinkin million dollars. You can keep mine. I can live without guns and I'm working on living on the smallest amount of money possible. When the right gets their wish and eliminates spending, I'll be the only one prepared.

Thatcher 3 months, 3 weeks ago

JimRussell44-- Ha! Now that was funny! And you ain't gettin' a million, you're gettin' a billion! It's free from the government...like Obamacare. Just check with JimHeim...he's got all the details on the "modern monetary theory." Sure, it's easy to wish that a fairy would give you money, but it makes perfect sense that the government would give you money. Less than the fairy, of course, but alot. Cheers!

clarabelle 3 months, 3 weeks ago

" Thatcher - Yukon! "I hope they (JimHeim, et.al.) are right...." When has JimHeim ever been wrong about anything?"

To be honest - he makes a lot more sense than the two of you......... just sayin. cheers!

JimRussell44 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Thatcher, I have two principles I try to live by. One is to treat others as I would like to be treated. The other is from Thoreau, who believed we can make ourselves rich by making our wants few. I struggle with doing the first because I tend to react before I think, which cause me to give what I get. I'm really trying to be better about that. The second has become easier, the older I get.

Yukonjohn 3 months, 3 weeks ago

And Jim, thanks for your heartfelt comment. I as well am going to try harder to not be so abrasive in my comments. I know sometimes our emotions get the better of us, it is human nature l think. I honestly do disagree with Jim H on his economics more than l could even describe, but hell, we all disagree some of the time, just ask my wife or my mother!! We are ALL Americans, and God (or whoever you think, or dont think would help us) please help us come together and proceed to a greener pasture and better day.

JimHeim 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Yukon, those aren't my economics. It's what I'm learning by reading the prominent academic economists. I wonder what you folks think the Federal Reserve does for a living.

Yukonjohn 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Jim, I think the Fed Reserve needs to be disbanded immediately!!! They are a huge problem and cause of this mess we are in. Heck, if it were up to me, I am with Ron Paul, go back to the gold standard, where our money is BACKED by something OTHER than the full faith and credit of the US govt!!!!

Thatcher 3 months, 3 weeks ago

JimHeim-- "Yukon, those aren't my economics. It's what I'm learning from reading prominent academic economists." I believe you JimHeim. And I wish you the best in that quest...learning is always a good thing. Until you have a basic knowledge of economics, or until you have a firm grasp on the meaning of certain words, it is never a good idea to tell others with whom you disagree to "grow up," or compare what they believe with a "fairy." That is why you got creamed last night by everyone (none of whom, by the way, called you vile names). Your posts were simply ridiculous, but were likely caused by your misreading what your "academic economists" said or meant. No problem. You have a fresh start with me, and I wish you the best. I'm sure the rest of the posters here feel the same. Cheers!

Yukonjohn 3 months, 3 weeks ago

clarabelle12 hours ago

" Thatcher - Yukon! "I hope they (JimHeim, et.al.) are right...." When has JimHeim ever been wrong about anything?"

To be honest - he makes a lot more sense than the two of you......... just sayin. cheers

Clarabelle, I am really curious. Among the folks on the left on this site, how many of you feel like Jim Heim? Do you? Do you think that the govt. creates jobs, and that our country should always operate by deficit spending, and the more you spend, the better the economy will be. Please, I am not being flip about this, I guess that alot of people in this country feel that way, I just strongly disagree with that idea,.

JimRussell44 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Yukonjohn, "the more you spend, the better the economy will be." If you own a store and nobody came in and bought anything, would you describe your economic outlook as good? Looking at it from another angle, if you have a booming business with lots of customers, would you question where their money came from? Would you refuse to sell to government employees, for example, because their money did not come from a private enterprise? Lets be honest, you, and many others here, have been government employees. Some still are. Yes, the government DOES create jobs. It was government jobs that built much of the infrastructure in this country after the big depression. It was government jobs created by WWII that produced the middle class, which is the driving force for positive economic times. You need to closely examine how the private sector businesses have contributed to our current situations. If the private sector is unwilling to invest in America because their ROI is better offshore, you better hope your government provides the boost to get the economy moving.

Yukonjohn 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Jim, Not sure what your background has been in your livelyhood, and it is not necessary for us to know, but trust me, if you want something to be done poorly, at the highest cost, by all means, have the federal govt. do it. Granted, there are many jobs that HAVE to be done by the govt. I don't argue that. I do not begrudge people that have govt. jobs. They do good work, and many of them are hard workers. That said, with all the regulation and safety and making sure that all the "i's are dotted, and the "t's" crossed" end up costing more. Private enterprise is what drives our economy. When they are over regulated, they look for a better environment to do business, l could never blame them. I think that Thatcher would be better to talk about private enterprise, seeing how my experience is in the govt sector. And Jim, l do love our govt, l love our country, l just do not love how it has become. The President, while l do not agree with him, is not any worse than Geo Bush to me. I did not like him either. Far as l am concerned, we havent had a good President since Bill Clinton!!

dentman65 3 months, 3 weeks ago

“If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert , in five years there’d be a shortage of sand.” ~ Milton Friedman

I Thought Ronald Reagan had said this too....I am sure the board will correct me If I am wrong.

I own and operate a business in Moore County and currently employ six people with a payroll of better than two hundred thousand dollars a year. I would hire more people if the work was there, or if there was a huge tax incentive to hire them. My largest problem is finding people that actually want to work and are thankful to have a job. Anyone reading this who has managed people or owned a business knows what I mean. I beg my employees to work overtime and they look at me like I have three heads or something. Everyone wants a position instead of a job. Surviving these last four years has been a true test of my abilities as a business owner. I, like many, was inexperienced and blind to what was fixing to happen to the economy. I'll agree that Obama inherited a huge mess and I really tried to have faith that things would change. Now that he has had four years to improve things I no longer have that faith. My definition of a natural born leader is someone who can get the job done no matter what the situation or opposition . Write something worth doing or do something worth writing about. I'd like to hear opinions from others as to what they think makes a great leader if they think I am off course. I have always said if the rich man's not happy-nobody's happy. It's a trickle down effect. How do we get people to re-invest in America?

AFCHIEF 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Heim was an Air Force dependent for most of his adult life.

teufelhunden 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Well dern I guess as long as I have checks in my checkbook...

fugitiveguy 3 months, 3 weeks ago

“If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert , in five years there’d be a shortage of sand.” ~ Milton Friedman

There were actually 4 wise men. Uncle Milty being the fourth. It would be funny if Friedman were still alive giving a speech and Jim Heim stood up and presented his theories of economics and wealth creation then sit back an listen to Friedman take him to school.

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JimRussell44 3 months, 3 weeks ago

AFCHIEF, how long were you employed by the Air Force?

clarabelle 3 months, 3 weeks ago

" JimRussell44 - AFCHIEF, how long were you employed by the Air Force?"

Until they installed the self flushing toilets.........

AFCHIEF 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Jimruss 30 years active duty

Clarabelle growup please

clarabelle 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Yukonjohn - let me say - I am not an obama fan 100%. In fact - not even close......

What drives me crazy .......... is this republican crap - the lies - and BS - the constant whining etc.

I voted for several republicans this year and have voted republican many times......... but the current crop is so whacked - it would be funny - if not so sad!

I actually do try and listen to both sides - unless one side is so crazy - its not worth my time.

have a nice day.

clarabelle 3 months, 3 weeks ago

" AFCHIEF - Clarabelle growup please"

awwwwwwwwww......... cmon chieffie - simply a joke!

JimRussell44 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Yukonjohn, I worked in the private sector my entire career although some of the work was on government programs like providing components used in weapon systems and on several space programs with NASA. Most government programs are farmed out to private industry, who build what the government needs using the specifications the government dictates. All the "regulation and safety" and the dotted "i's" and crossed "t's" are critical in manufacture and operation of these systems. If you are being attacked by a hoard of "terrorists" and your weapon doesn't work, you are going to be cursing out the people who got the job at the lowest bid. If you are on a spacecraft headed to the moon, you don't want a 5% tollerance on your ability to land where you are supposed to, you want everything to be precise. Like everything, quality cost money. When regulations are used as the excuse for a business to look elsewhere for "a better environment to do business", you are really saying that they are looking for the path of least resistance. They are looking for ways to make more money rather than producing a quality product that is safe, reliable and contributes to the local economy. If products are made in this country, using materials produced in this country, by employees who live in the community that are paid a reasonable wage and benefit package, these employees will be in a position to purchase the products made here. When companies pay minimum wage or move their operation off shore to facilitate higher profit margins and provide increased profit for their shareholders, then there is no middle class to buy their products because they are unemployed or under employed. In my opinion, much of our problem centers around the greed factor in private industry.

JimRussell44 3 months, 3 weeks ago

AFCHIEF, so we can say that you were an "Air Force dependent" during most of your adult life as well. I see you didn't pick up any "class" during that time.

Yukonjohn 3 months, 3 weeks ago

Dentman65, What a well thought out comment. I am curious, without being TOO brutally honest, what do you think of Jim Heim's idea of economics? The new Modern Methodology Economics? Saying that we have to have deficit spending to get the economy going better. The more debt, the better it will be. If we were to ever have, God forbid, a surplus, it is a horrible disaster that will put the economy into a tailspin. Does this seem reasonable to you? Does it seem sane to you? Good Luck on your business and keeping your head above water.

AFCHIEF 3 months, 3 weeks ago

JimRuss, yea right I guess I was dependent upon the Air Force while I was overseas to over 15 different countries serving our country while you sit back in your lazy chair feeling fat, FREE, and happy to poke fun at veterans. I'll take my life over yours anyday.

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