Obama's Attitude Is Disgusting

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

Ah, the cries of impotent rage and the thump thump thump of petulant foot stomping from the losers. Music to my ears.

The Rethuglican bullies long for the good old days of wimpy Democrats who'd fold up every time they said mean things about them. The President is not that kind of Democrat. Not any more. He extended olive branch after olive branch, and the 'thugs smacked it away because their number one priority, in Mitch McConnell's words, was to make Obama a one term President.

That's over. You lost. And the President isn't obligated to negotiate with people whose only agenda is to destroy him.

Thanks to the recent "fiscal cliff" crisis, the President has, in the words of Charles Krauthammer, shattered and broken your party, due in large part to the utter lack of leadership from Orange John Boehner. He's discovered that he can peel off some Republicans who aren't willing to destroy the country's economy to embarrass the Democrats . THOSE are the people he's going to be bipartisan with, while the far right dwindles into a few loud nutcases who couldn't get elected without the most extreme gerrymandering. As that happens, you can look to the right to become even more loud, shrill, and extreme. It's a death spiral for the far right, and good riddance.

JimRussell44 4 months ago

Well said, Dusty. It's only "cooperation" when the left is doing it with the right.

Courseaire 4 months ago

Oh please, please Mr. Dusty, have pity on us and throw us a bone every now and then, rather than piling on with the masses which whupped us soon bad in Nov.. We have fallen far and will need help to get back on our feet. No wait, we can just start collecting the Obama benefits, won't have to work, won't have to look for jobs, don't have to worry about health insurance, we can just apply for a few bennies and be the new welfare recipients.

clarabelle 4 months ago

AWWWWWWWWWW SHADUPPPPP already johnnie!

What's truly disgusting is your letter!

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

I see the Republicans here keep raising on the same losing hand.

Jason 4 months ago

Reagan debt ceiling increases 18 times (67%)/Obama debt ceiling increases 6 times (31%) Source: Bloomberg

Toda 4 months ago

John Rowerdink =>TEA NUT and an active card carrying member full of BS. Did he mention being an egocentric P'Hurst Republican? Give it a break John Rowerdink, POTUS'O' won yet again pal!

One image speaks volumes about Faux Nezs by Tommy Davis

Jason 4 months ago

If there was ever a reason to re-elect a president, Mr. Obama is showing us why. As a very bright guy (the crowd goes wild!), he has learned from his 4 years in office and is outmaneuvering the obstructionists at every turn! This is going to be great fun. I think I'll grab a bag of popcorn and enjoy the show!

AFCHIEF 4 months ago

Toda aka Jabba the Hut. Obama won that does not give him the rigth to add another $6-8 Trillion more to our debt.

JimHeim 4 months ago

Poor John. Unable to accept that Obama not only won re-election, but is the only president to do so with more than 51% of the vote for both of his terms since Eisenhower. Nixon, Reagan, Clinton and Bush all failed to make that mark.

And congressional Democrats out polled the Republicans by over a million votes. As the Republicans observed yesterday at their Virginia retreat, they held on to the house solely through gerrymandering. Some mandate.

You also seem to forget that since Mr Obama was first elected, the Republicans devoted themselves to obstructing his programs and making him a one-term president. They failed spectacularly on the second, but continue to offer nothing but obstruction to this very day.

The Republican Party has lost it relevancy and exists only by force of habit. It can only continue as the Southern White Men's Conservative Party for so long. The clock is ticking.

JD 4 months ago

Toda aka Jabba the Hut.

Actually I think he looks quite stout in his photo. How about you AFChump? Post a pic or don't start with name calling and then cry about Dusty doing it. Glad you are some tea bagger and not a real Republican. We can't run you posers out of the party fast enough.

JimHeim 4 months ago

afchief, Only Congress (specifically the house) can increase our debt. When they appropriate money for whatever reason, it's their decision. If you don't like their spending, talk to them.

But here's the thing. There's no excuse for appropriating funds and then refusing to honor those bills by refusing to increase the debt limit. They need to grow up and learn to legislate.

AFCHIEF 4 months ago

Heim when is Obama going to quit lying about spending cuts and balancing the budget. Obama promised to cut the debt in half in his first term but instead added $6 trillion more to the debt. He lied about Romney shipping jobs overseas now one of his biggest campaign supporter Chrysler announced they are going to start building Jeeps in China. WOW, if I was the Detroit auto workers union I'd demand my money back.

Middleman522 4 months ago

Heim what about Reagan?? 49 of 50 states and 58%, in his second term. You missed the point that Barry is acting like Dusty, rather intolerant, and 49% of American does not like much he's doing. Of that 51% of the vote, he won all states with NO voter ID. How interesting!! He now wants no debt limit, one of his buddies in the House want no term limits, and he wants gun control. Do you not see the control freak syndrome here. You could if it were Trump doing this crazy crap!

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

Wow. Chief's really repeating that talking point about Chrysler building Jeeps in China? .The one that cost Romney Ohio? That is absolutely hilarious.

Romney claimed that Chrysler building Jeeps in China was going to cost Ohio jobs. No less a personage than the CEO of Chrysler went on the air and pointed out that they were building Jeeps in China to sell to the Chinese and that they were actually adding jobs in Ohio. Friends in Ohio were telling me at the time that a lot of. people they knew who were on the fence turned against Romney for that, and the local media savaged him for continuing to repeat the lie. Romeny never led in Ohio, but that really put the nail in his coffin. And Chief's still repeating that losing gambit?

How out of touch with reality is this guy?

BTW, looks like the Rethuglicans are offering a "clean" three month debt ceiling extension, no spending cuts as a condition. Looks like you crazies lose again.

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

Eric Cantor: We must pay our bills and responsibly budget for our future. Next week, we will authorize a three month temporary debt limit increase to give the Senate and House time to pass a budget. Furthermore, if the Senate or House fails to pass a budget in that time, Members of Congress will not be paid by the American people for failing to do their job. No budget, no pay.

I like it, with one caveat. The proposal for "no pay" provides that if the House passes a budget that the Senate doesn't, then the House gets paid but the Senate doesn't. This gives the House no incentive to pass a budget they know will pass the Senate. In fact,. it gives them just the opposite incentive: to pass a bill they KNOW the Senate can't swallow. I say, no budget, no pay for anyone, including the POTUS.

AFCHIEF 4 months ago

DUSTY so where in these stories and there are several more of factories being built in China to build Chrysler Jeeps.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/15/china-jeeps-fiat-chrysler-gac_n_2481642.html

http://www.conservativedailynews.com/2013/01/vindication-for-romney-jeeps-to-be-built-in-china-come-2014/

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

Wait a minute...have you guys not told Chief yet that Romney lost?

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

No one denied Chrysler was building Jeeps in China, doofus. Pay attention. The question was whether they were costing American jobs by doing so. They weren't.

Politifact called the Romney distortion the Lie of the Year.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/dec/12/lie-year-2012-Romney-Jeeps-China/

And you're still repeating it. What a clown you are.

BTW, your Rethuglican heroes just threw you under the bus on the debt ceiling.

AFCHIEF 4 months ago

Hmnnnnn, so Americans are not building Jeeps destined for China. How is that creating jobs in America, not China

Yukonjohn 4 months ago

By all means, let's not get together and solve our problems, but let's become more divided. Every day l wake up and thank my lucky stars that l live where l do and will not have to be exposed to the total mayhem that it appears will ensue. God help our nation, we are in a pickle.

fugitiveguy 4 months ago

"Reagan debt ceiling increases 18 times (67%)/Obama debt ceiling increases 6 times (31%) Source: Bloomberg"

What was the debt when Reagan left office as a percent of gdp. How much was the daily interest on that debt. The interest alone on the current debt is over 1billion dollars daily. The above premise makes about as much sense as saying a family with $100 dollars in total debts and a family with $100,000 in total debts are the same simply because they are both in debt. Its about time you Obobbleheads woke up and got a little more curious about where this massive debt is leading

JRowerdink 4 months ago

Dusty & Jim Heim….Silly me. I thought the job of the government was to run the country and the President’s job was to be the leader of the government. Now that I understand that the President’s job is to beat the Republicans, I see where you’re coming from. I stand corrected.

John Rowerdink

AFCHIEF 4 months ago

Hmnnnn seems to me Obama lied

http://m.weeklystandard.com/blogs/whoops-politifacts-lie-year-turns-out-be-true_696223.html

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

Rowerdink: Yeah, you stand corrected. And your Rethuglican caucus got owned by a real leader, Your getting pissy about it just makes it so much sweeter, loser.

njc17 4 months ago

Is it not sad that the conservative voice is not allowed to have opinions on this paper without dusty Rhoads and company casting slurs and insults on them. damn geniuses the bunch. [in their own minds]. In the democratic view "let the grandchildren pay for our follies" actually the children will pay more, the Constitution will be gone, and they will be under the loving arms of government aegis.

Yukonjohn 4 months ago

If the Republicans would abandon (and l know they will not) their religious right platform, maybe they would be more revellant. I am all for personal freedoms, AND personal responsibilities. Let people do as they choose, and then be responsible for their actions. Everyone left up to their own devices, and vices. Just do away with most of the safety nets that pay for their mistakes. The Dems certainly do not have the answer, but neither do the Republicans!!

JimHeim 4 months ago

afchief - Obama has already reduced the deficit by $2.4 trillion. That's quite enough for the next 8 years or so. Now let's put Americans back to work. If we do that we fix the deficit. If we cut the deficit further, we increase unemployment. Which do you prefer?

JimHeim 4 months ago

middleman - I made a very simple assertion, namely that Obama won more than 51% in each of his presidential elections. If you can prove me wrong, please proceed. If you wish to change the subject, you're free to do that. But my original claim is unassailable.

If you have evidence of voter impersonation fraud (especially the millions of fake votes it would take to skew the elections results) do tell. Otherwise you're just blowing hot air.

JimHeim 4 months ago

furtiveguy - Reagan doubled the national debt during his years. Between Reagan and Bush 1, they tripled it. Bush 2 doubled it again. The last balance budget was Clinton's.

JimHeim 4 months ago

njc17 - The grandchildren will pay? Really? Did we have to pay for the Spanish-American War? WWI? WWII? Vietnam? Just when did those bills go out?

You seem to think this debt thing is recent or transient. This country has been in debt most of its history (as have most others). The one time the national debt was paid off led to a depression. Just running surpluses is bad for the economy. We've had balanced budgets eight times in our history and every one was followed by recession.

That debt is funding American jobs. Do you really want to give that up?

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

Is it not sad that the conservative voice is not allowed to have opinions on this paper without dusty Rhoads and company casting slurs and insults on them

http://thepilot.com/users/photos/2013/jan/04/23459/

AFCHIEF 4 months ago

Heim Obama has NOT cut the deficit by $2.4 trillion, show me the proof don't give me some made up number

Thatcher 4 months ago

Great letter Mr. Rowerdink! Cheers!

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

As usual, Chief's shiny head retains the thickness of concrete.

AFCHIEF 4 months ago

DR pull your head out of Obamas ass. I'm sure Heim will give some made up graph like you did last time where you showed that Obama did not add $6 trillion to the national debt

Thatcher 4 months ago

JimHeim-- Your claim that Obama has already reduced the deficit by $2.4 trillion is not only false, it is impossible. You realize that a "deficit" is a yearly calculation (as opposed to "debt", which is the accumulation of yearly deficits)? So tell us, which year did Obama reduce the deficit by $2.4 trillion (hint: your choices are limited to either 2009, 2010, 2011, or 2012). Which year was it, and please post a link from anywhere in this universe which you claim supports your claim. Cheers!

Toda 4 months ago

AFCHIEF 19 hours, 42 minutes ago Toda aka Jabba the Hut.

Did someone say something about Star Wars?

Has to be Nut-Case-in-Chief

Obama won that does not give him the rigth to add another $6-8 Trillion more to our debt. Wow ~ the Congress are big spenders ... remember those hammers and toilets for the space shuttle? You have selective memory or as DR jr pointed out "shiny head retains the thickness of concrete." I have to second that assertion. How does he know you are bald?

Toda 4 months ago

John Rowerdink => Either The Pilot or you should qualify your association with the TEA NUTS and involvement with the Republican Party. That way new readers or those who are not familiar with your biased rants will reject or identify with your ire of our President.

AFCHIEF 4 months ago

Thatcher, the problem with todays media is that bozos like DR and Heim can throw out these bogus numbers and the media does not call BS.

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

I'm sure Heim will give some made up graph like you did last time where you showed that Obama did not add $6 trillion to the national debt

See, this is what I mean., You demand proof, and then when shown it, you claim it's "made up."

This is the mark of the complete blockhead. Pull your head out of your own ass. On second thought don't. You clearly like it up there.

oldtimer 4 months ago

Editors/management of the Pilot should require Dusty Rhoades to make a choice of retaining his role as a columnist or continuing his acerbic commentary on these message blogs. One role, but not both, would be acceptable and my vote is that he strictly write his occasional column. His style and approach in castigating those with whom he disagrees is atrocious and turns what could be a lively, reasonable, and responsible debate on issues into name calling and slurs. The Pilot could do better and would be doing it's readership a service. This matter has gone well beyond the ridiculous.

moonchild7 4 months ago

"The Dems certainly do not have the answer." So says, Yukonjohn. But I say REALLY? The American people voted just 2 months ago and chose a Democrat to not only have the answer but to implement the answer, and he's doing exactly that. Plus much more. I think it's hilarious that Eric Cantor now says that "We must pay our bills" and so will raise the Debt Ceiling for the next three months. THis is really getting good but Yukonjohn, don't be so pessimistic; the future is before us and it looks great. Don't let those NUTZ called Republicans make you believe that the "End is Near." They are wrong and have been wrong and destructive for a very long time now. We don't need them anymore. A Moderate Libertarian Party would do much better I think. Someone should try it.

AFCHIEF 4 months ago

MC7 the only reason Cantor is wanting to raise the debt limit for 3 months is because the budget from Harry Reid is suppose to be submitted by 15 April. Which of course is not going to happen. So when Reid fails to come up with a budget it will be the Republicans fault. See how that game is played

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

No, Chief, the reason Cantor is caving is because the fiscal cliff vote showed him the Teahadists can't count on enough REPUBLICAN votes to send the country into default and blow up the economy if he doesn't get his way. It's the Twilight of the Teabaggers, and good riddance to them and their economic terrorism.

They went eyeball to eyeball with Obama and the Teahadists blinked first.

AFCHIEF 4 months ago

Guess we'll see come April when the Senate ONCE again can't produce a BALANCE BUDGET

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

my vote is that he strictly write his occasional column.

When you get a vote, old-t, you'll be the first to know. And when you apply the same standard to other commenters, I'll take some notice of your advice.

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

Guess we'll see when the Teabaggers lose again, Chief. It really must suck to be you, constantly flogging a failed message and consumed with bitterness and anger because of it.

(I feel like I should go ahead and give Chief his PeeWee, but I'll just wait for the inevitable "I know you are but what am I" response).

AFCHIEF 4 months ago

DR it must suck for you to be stuck with your head in Obamas butt, hope you don't get your neck broken.

Toda 4 months ago

oldtimer => Dusty like me, respond in kind when dipsticks chose to make sarcastic and inflammatory remarks. If anything, The Pilot may consider removing any thread that isn't in keeping with the topic!

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

You're repeating yourself, Chief. Get some new material. Maybe consider throwing out all the Romney talking points. You know, the ones that lost him the election. Then maybe you can stop being such a useless waste of bandwidth and be less of an embarrassment to yourself and your party.

Remember when you told me I should watch more Joe Scarborough? Maybe you should take your own advice:

Had GOP voters followed Buckley’s advice to vote for the most electable conservative instead of the most extreme right-wing choice, Harry Reid would be in retirement and a Republican would be Senate majority leader. For the GOP to win again, it must embrace Buckley’s ruthless, pragmatic approach to primary elections and once again vote for candidates who can win sweeping majorities. That means they must also stop electing idiots in primaries who are little more than ideological indulgences that only advance the Democrats’ cause. WFB never forgot that beating liberal Democrats sometimes requires voting for moderate Republicans. The winds of history have blown Barack Obama’s way of late not because of some irreversible sociological trend but because supporters of Todd Akin, Richard Mourdock, Christine O’Donnell and Sharron Angle voted to indulge their Republican resentments instead of electing a candidate who could win in the fall.

"Indulging resentment"...that's you all over, Chief. Listen to Morning Joe like you told me to do.

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

And Chief, remember when you mocked Colin Powell for supporting Obama? Listen to the guy you told me to listen to:

Republicans could kick General Powell around for the next four years or they could get smart and start celebrating the fact this commanding figure still identifies himself as a Republican. Then they should do everything possible to drag him back into a big GOP tent. Unfortunately, the Republican Party of 2013 bears little resemblance to the party of Ronald Reagan, who would have responded to Powell’s concerns with an all-hands-on-deck effort to win the war hero back. That’s because President Reagan lived by the belief that “just because I’m your friend 80 percent of the time doesn’t make me your enemy 20 percent of the time.” If the Republican Party is big enough to reach out to disaffected moderates like Colin Powell, then it is big enough to win the White House back in 2016. The question is whether the GOP will choose to go the way of William F. Buckley or Todd Akin. The party’s survival depends on that choice.

Toda 4 months ago

Chief has comprehension issues Dusty ... he hears voices!

SH59 4 months ago

John, I remember these quotes from GW: .

"I'm the commander -- see, I don't need to explain -- I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being president."

"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."

"I'm the decider, and I decide what is best."

So, get over yourself and your complaining!

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

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Yukonjohn 4 months ago

The American people voted just 2 months ago and chose a Democrat to not only have the answer but to implement the answer, and he's doing exactly that.

And yes, MC7, you are exactly correct. He is doing just exactly that: THE WRONG THINGS!! Not being a republican or a supporter of them, I agree, for the most part, l would about as soon have the current President on social issues as any republican l know. That said, it is going to be a short matter of time until the conservatives on here will not have to defend something that has not happeded yet....it will HAVE happened, and we will be struggling on how to clean up the mess. It is probably already too late to stop it now, and even if we could, we are heading FULL STEAM AHEAD in the wrong direction. I just hope that there will be enough smarts left to fix it without having mayhem in the streets. We can just argue on here for a few more months....

AFCHIEF 4 months ago

Toda, I'm not the one who had the sheriff at my front door because I went nutzoid. Hopefully they pulled your gun permit. Don't need you going crazy at Walmart

packwilleat 4 months ago

For what it's worth, dusty was the first to post on this article. Unprovoked by anyone he resortrd to being a douche all on his own. But the Pilot pays him for what he is, sad.

Reggie_Mantle 4 months ago

Holy crap, don't you people have lives?

You should be nicer to AFPOGUE. He doesn't have any perfumed Chair Force officer butts to kiss any more and no airmen to kick around when he needs to feel important. Now he's home with no lead in his pencil and nothing to do but roam around the house in his AF issue bunny slippers and put up angry drunk rants on some local rag's website. He's just a sad old drunk ex-fobbit with an anger problem. Cut him some slack.

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

But the Pilot pays him for what he is, sad.

You're really obsessed with the fact that I get paid for the columns.

But bitch-slapping cowardly trolls like you around I do for free. A man's gotta have a hobby.

Reggie_Mantle 4 months ago

Hey Rhoades...

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AFCHIEF 4 months ago

DR that is the only way you can "bitch slap" someone is here on these blogs. Poor bullied child greeting his revenge here on the pilot blogs.

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

Gee, Chief, used to be you were whining and crying like a little girl about how I was bullying YOU.

Reggie_Mantle 4 months ago

It's a good thing AFPOGUE did his time in the Chair Force. Weak lil' fobbit like him wouldn't have lasted ten minutes outside the wire.

And if you thought I was kidding about the AF issue bunny slippers:

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dustyrhoades 4 months ago

AFCHIEF:

Dusty the victim. NOT, he is a big liberal bully and WHEN will the Pilot fire his butt!!!

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AFCHIEF 4 months ago

Reggmantle no disrespect but I did my time outside the wire in Iraq. But your sheep ass wouldn't know what that actually means would you.

Reggie_Mantle 4 months ago

Poguie, I guess you'd kno more about sheep's asses than me.

Hey, were these your guys? They knew the sheep couldn't tell on them, didn't they?

http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2012/01/air-force-now-investigating-sheep-beating-video-012512/

AFCHIEF 4 months ago

Reg, don't have a clue who those guys are, but if identified they are screwed and deservably so.

packwilleat 4 months ago

Congratulations Dusty!! I found a video for you. Enjoy!!!!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s77Cjuf5KIs

Yukonjohn 4 months ago

Hey Reggie, What branch did you serve in?

Yukonjohn 4 months ago

A friend of mine posted this on Facebook:

As night does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight when everything remains unchanged. And it is in that twilight that we must be most aware of the change in the air, however slight; lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness. --- US Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas

Seems to fit the times.

JimHeim 4 months ago

afchief - Read it and weep. I was right - again!

[http://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-already-cut-deficit-2-113249073.html]

Plus, Obama's has reduced government spending by more than any president in sixty years. Plus, corporate profits are up 171%. Not bad for an anti-business president.

JimHeim 4 months ago

Thatcher, try to follow me here; I know this is complicated. The budget guys use a ten-year span when calculating federal budget effects. I do not know why, but they do.

Remember the 'fiscal cliff' and the $500 million Pentagon sequester. That number wasn't for one year, it was for ten. See how that works?

Obama has reduced the deficit by $2.4 trillion as fiscal policies are analyzed.

I'm glad we had this little chat.

Bigguy 4 months ago

"DEFICITS DO NOT MATTER" Dick Cheney. A true Liberal was quoted as saying. Unload on him or please shut up.

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

afchief - Read it and weep. I was right - again!

I predict AFCHIEF will dismiss these figures as "made up." Any figure that doesn't agree with the narrative Faux News has pounded into his head is immediately dismissed. But the other readers here are invited to take notice of actual facts.

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

Thatcher, of course, will just pretend you said something totally different than what you actually said. It is his way.

JimHeim 4 months ago

While we're correcting the record, do you know how many executive orders President Obama has signed on gun control? That's right, zero.

I just knew you were on top of this.

Thatcher 4 months ago

No DR, I'm simply going by what JimHeim says. "The budget guys use a ten-year span when calculating federal budget effects. I don't know why, but they do." I agree with you: you don't know why because you don't understand the difference between projections and actual yearly deficits. And you have no idea what the definition of "deficit" is...you constantly confuse it with debt. Even if you are intending to make a distinction between cash vs. accrual deficits, you're not only in left field, you are in another zip-code: http://www.gao.gov/special.pubs/longterm/deficit/. As the Democrat Chairman, you've said that "the budget guys use a ten-year span...." Post one link, from any site in this universe or beyond, from any of these "budget guys" or their friends, that says Obama has reduced the deficit by $2.4 trillion. (DR--"Thatcher, of course, will just pretend you said something totally different than what you actually said. It is his way"). Really? DR you are invited to please provide the link which JimHeim refuses to post: tell us DR when Obama reduced the deficit by $2.4 trillion? One link, please (and please let it be from Paul Krugman). Cheers!

Thatcher 4 months ago

The funny thing is that Paul Krugman, as crazy as some of his ideas may be, would not agree with JimHeim. A wise man once said, "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving's not for you." JimHeim, economics is not for you. Cheers!

JimHeim 4 months ago

As usual, facts just bounce off.

Thatcher 4 months ago

JimHeim-- You have not posted a single fact, nor have you posted any link from any source supporting whatever "fact" you claim you typed here. How about I say this: "It is a fact that Obama is only 31 years old, and he cannot be President under our Constitution." Virtually everyone here, left or right, would demand a source/link. Then I refuse to provide any source, but instead say, "facts just bounce off." You are an amazing person, and I'm not suprised your favorite columnist is your wingman on this one. Cheers!

JRowerdink 4 months ago

Jim Heim…..Here are the actual budget deficits during Obama’s first term (source: Congressional Budget Office and US Govt Office of Management & Budget) 2009 – $1.413 trillion 2010 - $1.293 trillion 2011 - $1.297 trillion 2012 - $1.089 trillion

Can you explain your claim that Obama has reduced deficits by $2.4 trillion? That will take some pretty creative math. By the way, no other president in the country’s history has ever had a trillion $ deficit in any year.

Also, during the same period, total government spending increased from $2.983 trillion in Bush’s last year to $3.538 trillion in 2012, an increase of 18.6%. Can you explain your claim that Obama has decreased spending more than any president in sixty years.

You really ought to be more careful with your math.

John Rowerdink

fugitiveguy 4 months ago

"Obama has reduced the deficit by $2.4 trillion as fiscal policies are analyzed."

You mean the debt clock is wrong? Oh sheet, never mind its just Jim H with more tall O'tales

Thatcher 4 months ago

JRowerdink-- Great post! And it's pointless hoping that JimHeim and his wingman will be more careful with their math. Math to them...like facts... seems not to matter. Cheers!

Yukonjohn 4 months ago

Mr. Helm, are you serious? I went and read that link you provided. Then l went back and read it twice more. They are as full of it as the claim you make. And, if ANYTHING was cut/saved, it was done by the Rep. House. I don't like the Repubs, but on this particular issue, they stand head and shoulders above the Dems on what to do.

fugitiveguy 4 months ago

It wouldn't suprise me if President Obama was awarded the Nobel prize in economics

Thatcher 4 months ago

fugitiveguy-- This is JimHeim and his wingman's Back to the Future Debt Clock...only they can understand how it works. They would post a link to back up what they say, but facts just bounce off us...much like their Google search "Obama $2.4 trillion deficit cut" bounces back at them. Cheers!

skylinefirepest 4 months ago

Reggie...I don't know where you get that stuff about AFCHIEF having no lead in his pencil...when I drove past your house this afternoon his car was in your driveway!!

Yukonjohn 4 months ago

LMAO, good one skylinefirepest!! Hope you are having a good weekend.

Thatcher, hope you and yours are having a good one too!!! And to you as well fugitiveguy.

clarabelle 4 months ago

Thatcher .... seems like it is YOU that relishes being the looney right wingman..........

all you ever do is parrot and congratulate your nutcase buddies..............

Cheers to ya :)

fugitiveguy 4 months ago

awww, Clarabelle is feeling kind of left out because his nutcase buddies never give him a shout out, here's a tissue

Thatcher 4 months ago

Sorry clarabelle, but the folks on my side do not need a wingman...they do very well on their own. But while we have you here, JimHeim and his wingman need a $2.4 trillion link from anywhere in the universe, and since you post heavily researched stuff here, they'd like your help. Don't do it for your country clarabelle...do it for your CHAIRMAN and your COLUMNIST! Cheers!

Yukonjohn 4 months ago

Thatcher, I know, went to the link that JH posted, and it was so full of feces that after reading it three times, l concluded that they must all be using some goofy math. It reminded me of when Geo Bush called Reagan's plan "voodoo economics"!!!

Thatcher 4 months ago

Yukon! Seems like JimHeim disappears for months at a time, then reappears to lob factless-bombs...only to disappear again. JimHeim says Obama cured polio, invented the modern breast-pump, coined the phrase "Valvoline ready," and reduced the deficit by $2.4 trillion. Actually, JimHeim only said the last one, but it is as truthful as all the rest. Cheers!

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

Hilarious. The wingnuts confess they don't understand the math, so it must be bogus. It can't possibly the that they're simple-minded boobs.

You're a pack of morons! Cheers!

JRowerdink 4 months ago

Toda….So you think I should identify myself as a member of the Republican Party and Moore TEA Citizens. I’m happy and proud to do both. Do you think otherwise someone might think I’m a democrat?

John Rowerdink

GJohn 4 months ago

Reggie Mantle's disgusting post above with the picture of a child with Down's Syndrome running a race is so typical of a Republican response and so indicative of your character. I have flagged it for removal. I hope it is taken down soon.

AFCHIEF 4 months ago

GJOHN, hate to break the news to but RegMantle is as far left as Pelosi and DR as you can get, sorry he is No republican

fugitiveguy 4 months ago

"so typical of a Republican response and so indicative of your character."

I think GJohn is well aware RegMantle is no Repub Conserv as he has been around here for a while. It is a typical lefty response to feign outrage on a subject and trying to falsly place blame opposite of where it belongs. The rest of us had the good sense to ignore it

JimHeim 4 months ago

I didn't say Obama reduced the deficit $2.4 trillion. Non-partisan economists said that. I stand by their work.

In a couple of hours Mr Obama will be sworn in for his second term. I'm sure we all wish him every success.

Speaking of successes, yesterday's Wholesale Slaughter of Six-Year-Olds Celebration was quite the success. Five morons managed to shoot themselves while practicing gun safety. Three of those were right here in North Carolina. We're Number One!

moonchild7 4 months ago

Just watched an interview of Warren Buffett on CBS and he says that of course we need to deal with the debt but he also said that the debt in ratio to GDP still isn't that bad. That is was higher after WWII. He also says that our country is so rich we shouldn't have any poor, hungry, or medically needy people here. Shouldn't Wall Street, with the Dow at record highs again be rallying around our Presidet now and shouldn't those Corporations hoarding money now be investing again in America? I say YES and if they don't want to invest here, the THEY SHOULD GET OUT. Yes, Mr. Heim, those idiot GUN-MONGERS managed to shoot themselves and others yesterday while worshiping their warm gunmetal grips. Sickos.

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

It is a typical lefty response to feign outrage on a subject and trying to falsly [sic] place blame opposite of where it belongs.

It is a typical wingnut response to feign outrage at something a liberal said or posted while completely ignoring and enabling the equally crass, nasty and vicious things said and posted by fellow wingnuts.

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

Yes, Mr. Heim, those idiot GUN-MONGERS managed to shoot themselves and others yesterday while worshiping their warm gunmetal grips.

Natural selection in action, I'd say.

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

Not that it will penetrate through the fact-free fog that surrounds the wingnut mind, but this article by Ezra Klein is worth a look.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/20/the-case-for-deficit-optimism/

Toda 4 months ago

"AFCHIEF 23 hours, 19 minutes ago Toda, I'm not the one who had the sheriff at my front door because I went nutzoid. Hopefully they pulled your gun permit. Don't need you going crazy at Walmart"

Yet another cheap shot from a coward hiding behind a faceless avatar, too scared to show him or her self in public. Send me your IP and I'll gift you ...

Just for your info never had a gun permit, and I purchased two shotguns from WalMart...stop by wussy and I'll be glad to show you my 12 gauge pump! Along with my .380 Beretta; how about a nice compact .25 Colt automatic?

You talk out of your ass and all we hear is hot air! And it stinks!

Toda 4 months ago

JRowerdink => Absolutely not ~ anyone who listens to your gibberish would realize where you stand on politics. A note that you are a Republican and card carrying Teabagger would give notice of what one could expect prior to reading the articles. The Pilot embraces jabberwocky from those who lost the election.

AFCHIEF 4 months ago

Toda so sounds like you have some illegal handguns

JimHeim 4 months ago

afchief, how could you not know that one does not necessarily need a permit in this state to possess a handgun?

geoffcutler 4 months ago

Obama's attitude is disgusting?

I agree. Good catch, John!

AFCHIEF 4 months ago

Heim why don't we ask the sheriff seems to me to possess a handgun you need a permit from the sheriff and to also buy a gun

JimHeim 4 months ago

I bathe in the tears of the conservatives in despair over President Obama's win.

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

They are mighty sweet, aren't they?

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Responding to reports that President Obama is considering signing as many as nineteen executive orders on gun control, Republicans in Congress unleashed a blistering attack on him today, accusing Mr. Obama of “cynically and systematically using his position as President to lead the country.”

Spearheading the offensive was Rep. Steve Stockman (R-Texas), who charged the President with the “wanton exploitation of powers that are legally granted to him under the U.S. Constitution.”

Calling him the “Law Professor-in-Chief,” Rep. Stockman accused Mr. Obama of “manipulating a little-known section of the Constitution,” Article II, which outlines the power of the President. “President Obama looks down the list of all of the powers that are legally his and he’s like a kid in a candy store,” Rep. Stockman said. “It’s nauseating.”

The Texas congressman said that if Mr. Obama persists in executing the office of the Presidency as defined by the Constitution, he could face “impeachment and/or deportation.”

Noting that the President has not yet signed the executive orders on gun control, Rep. Stockman said that he hoped his stern words would serve as a wake-up call to Mr. Obama: “Mr. President, there’s still time for you to get in line. But if you continue to fulfill the duties of President of the United States that are expressly permitted in the Constitution, you are playing with fire.”

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

by dustyrhoades

Look upon it, ye wingnuts, and despair!

Four more years!

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

by dustyrhoades

AFCHIEF 4 months ago

Yea 4 more years and another $6 or 8 trillion added to our debt and with obamacare higher unemployment

packwilleat 4 months ago

Toda calling people a "wussy" when his arsenal consist of a .380 and a .25 auto. Haha! You a manly man Toda!!

Reggie_Mantle 4 months ago

People who feel like they have to brag about how many more guns they have and how big they are have tiny, tiny penises. It's a scientific fact.

Reggie_Mantle 4 months ago

AFPOGUE: Get some help, you angry old drunk.

http://www.moorecountyaa.org/

(Edited to be nicer. )

Thatcher 4 months ago

GJohn (11 hours, 25 min. ago)-- This is the Reggie_Mantle you were referring to above. He is not a conservative...he is a liberal. And his post above, which you and so many others here found offensive, was a high-five to DR. Hope that helps. Cheers!

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

"Even if you win, you're still retarded" is your idea of a "high five"?

getreal 4 months ago

Mr. Rowerdink, Really? The "king" thing? How about after years of "in your face obstructionism" it's no more Mr. Nice Guy? How about one after the other of embarrassing false moves of the house, i.e. Mitch McConnell filibustering his own bill, not having enough votes of their own party to even present a bill on the fiscal cliff, the insidious Norquist pledge, etc. LOL! Congress passed the bills that caused the spending, now you don't want to pay them? Did you ever run a business? Did you ever buy a car? Do you pay your bills? Well, America has to pay their bills. It wasn't Obama who threatened default, it was the house who said it would be a good idea. We are still paying for the war that continues for the past 12+ years, it has cost us trillions. The house has been posturing and chest pounding, first to guarantee Boehner his reelection to his position in the house and second, to look good to their voters for 2014 and the dastardly Tea Baggers who have more influence on the GOP in the house than they should. Would you work with a bunch of 3 year olds who constantly put their party before the people? Who can blame Obama for finally standing up to them? The house and the GOP approval rate has fallen drastically and continues to free fall. That doesn't look to me like the rest of the country is behind them. I think you have the description of the "disgusting attitude" in the wrong place. If the house and the GOP continue on the path they are on now, by 2016, there won't be any GOP to reach across the aisle to! Unless your party is willing to accept change, it will eventually fade away, along with what is left of the angry old white men like yourself.

carlj1161 4 months ago

You totally disgust me. Whining and crying about Obama lying and throwing out the bipartisan card. When the Republican's in this country were set on destroying this country just to get Obama voted out. Guess what if you check the number of votes that were cast, overall, you will find that the Democrats garnered more votes than the GOP. The only reason the GOP won the house was because the districts were skewed in their favor. If they would have been drawn fairly, there is no way the GOP would be in control. My suggestion is for you to grow up, quit whining and learn the art of cooperation. Instead your bound and determined to stand around and throw temper tantrums because you can't possibly fathom the fact that the majority of the voting public thinks the GOP policies are crap.

Thatcher 4 months ago

Uh, DR...his post was "Hey Rhoades..." followed by his (what you said). You were both arguing with the same people at the time. Yes, it was a high five. And based upon your posts, you accepted it. Cheers!

Thatcher 4 months ago

Of course, if you really disapprove of him making fun of kids with special needs who compete in the Special Olympics, I'm sure you would tell him that. Cheers!

dustyrhoades 4 months ago

Of course, if you really disapprove of him making fun of kids with special needs who compete in the Special Olympics, I'm sure you would tell him that. Cheers!

You mean the way you feel compelled to disapprove of other conservatives engaging in the same name-calling you claim to deplore? Like that?

Sneers!

Thatcher 4 months ago

Exactly. Which is what I've done here many times defending you. So tell us whether you accept his post or whether you should tell him it was offensive. It's up to you. Cheers!

AFCHIEF 4 months ago

Toda since you have ILLEGAL HANDGUNS you should either turn them into the Sheriffs office or apply for a handgun permit. Of course you would have to pass a background check.

JD 4 months ago

AFchump in rare form. Whines about name calling, commences to name call. Get what you give sport.

AFCHIEF 4 months ago

JD what the hell are you talking about. Toda above states he owns handguns without permits and I'm telling him he needs to do the right thing

Toda 4 months ago

AFChief ~ as much as you claim to know something about guns and the law, you are one nieve idiot!

I purchased a 410 and a 12 gauge pump before Christmas at WalMart. FYI ~ know-it-all, anyone who is 21 years of age can purchase a rifle or shotgun WITHOUT a permit from the Sheriffs' Office.

Also, background checks are conducted through FBI data bases before purchase.

My .25 Colt was purchased when I was in Law Enforcement; my Berta was purchased before permits were required as another tax revenue source.

So if you want to come confiscate my guns, come on coward! You are nothing but a blowhard! A wannabe somebody who was kicked out of the military with a dishonorable discharge for behaviors not in keeping with male military tradition. Suck on that one nutzoid!

Toda 4 months ago

packwilleat 19 hours, 17 minutes ago Toda calling people a "wussy" when his arsenal consist of a .380 and a .25 auto. Haha! You a manly man Toda!!

Another Wussy erupts on the boards without showing us his arsenal. You left out the 12 gauge pump loaded with 00 buckshot ... use those for wussy hunting! I also have a .22 rifle for a little sting ... .380 uses hollow points for maximum effect. Come by and visit ...

AFCHIEF 4 months ago

TODA sorry but 30 years in the AF is hardly a bad conduct discharge. And for someone who still lives with his mother your awfully tough

skylinefirepest 4 months ago

Reggie, here's another "scientific fact" that I found while talking to some liberals...namely they told me that Reggie has his head where the sun don't shine...I took that as scientific fact because you know that liberals are never wrong.

Obama's Attitude Is Disgusting

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