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I was a member of the NRA beginning at age 13, was taught gun safety and shot competitively. I have hunted all my life and have several rifles and shotguns.
The NRA has changed since then to represent gun collectors and militias, not sportsmen.
I quit the NRA when they supported the public sale of armored vest-piercing ammo. Their propaganda was, say no to any form of registration because when the communists take over, the government would confiscate their guns.
There is no doubt that mental illness plays a role in mass killings. However, many owners of military-type weapons are crazy also.
We need reasonable gun legislation. The true sportsmen and hunters are law-abiding citizens and have respect for rifles, shotguns and revolvers used for self-defense in certain instances. Fear is spiraling us into a situation where we will live in an armed camp.
My recommendations for starters are as follows:
Assault rifles should be banned for sale to the public. Those owned should be confiscated.
Magazines for guns over five rounds should be banned and confiscated.
Background checks should be made for all gun sales, with no exceptions. Training should be required as part of a firearm purchase.
These recommendations would not affect legitimate hunters, sportsmen or target shooters.
Why are we such a fearful nation? It is ridiculous to suggest that we arm teachers.
Can you imagine requiring all teachers to become gun-qualified to obtain a teaching certificate? That is what we have policemen for in a civil
society.
I have never seen an assault rifle in a hunting camp, as the owner would be laughed at.
I can defend my home if necessary with one gun and five cartridges. Why would anyone need an assault rifle?
Let’s hear from the assault rifle owners.
Ronald Davis
Pinehurst
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Another_Opinion 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Mr Davis has no idea what he's talking about. I would expect a person who calls himself a sportsman would have significantly more knowledge than to be scared of a firearm, in any form.
coldsteele35 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Glad to see you got rid of your NRA card as you are frankly a worthless member. Just because you are Elmer Fudd doesn't mean you have any idea of what the 2nd is about. The 2A is not about hunting, trap shooting, or any other type of sport shooting. Think about when and why it was written and even though it is highly unlikely that it would ever happen our framers wanted to make sure we at least had a chance. You want assault rifles confiscated you are a fool what do you think is going to happen? Better yet why don't you show up and try to do it with you Fudd gun you will have 5 rounds we will have 30 you will lose. I have never hunted and have no desire to yet I own 15 or so weapons of which most of them would be considered an assault weapon. I even have 8 tax stamps with the ATF and have jumped through all their hoops yet I have never harmed a person and hope never to.
Bottom line good riddance to you Fudd you were never a true supporter anyways you are nothing more than a gun grabbing liberal who has no idea what they are talking about.
Maryland_Shooter 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Too funny. The NRA hasn't changed and the 2nd Amendment was never about hunting or Fudd guns you dope.
Clearly a case of addition by subtraction.
RationalThinker 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Ronald Davis is either A) a liar, or B) gullible and intellectually lazy.
Mr. Davis, misrepresenting the NRA's position ruins your credibility. I suggest you quit letting the TV do your thinking for you and do some honest self-education on the subject.
Also consider that laws fundamentally apply ONLY to those who obey them. You cannot change a criminal mind into a law-abiding mind by legislation and usually not even by incarceration.
Get your facts straight and stop spewing irrational garbage.
FranklinsGhost 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Mr Davis:
Thanks for throwing fellow gun owners under the bus. You are a quisling. Do you REALLY think that by throwing fellow gun owners to the wolves that the anti's will leave YOUR guns alone? They've made it clear that they believe that the use of deadly force rests solely with the State and not the citizen ( as per a NYS politician this past month). All the way back in the Clinton era Hillary was pushing to have any scope over 4 power designated a sniper implement and controlled for sale to the general public. Your bolt action rifle ( which dates from military weapon designs, BTW ) will be designated a sniper weapon and your hunting ammo that already penetrates police soft body armor ( thereby being deemed "armor piercing") will be seized.
Don't believe me? Look at whats been happening overseas. In England they aren't allowed anything bigger than birdshot , and only have side by sides to fire that ammo out of.
In short, you are a FOOL. We either hang together as gun owners...or we will surely hang seperately
prosandbagger 4 months, 2 weeks ago
I must say I agree with 50 % of what you posted. quitting the nra and not sending your opinion is not the answer and does not help your views
NHPatriot 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Good thing the 2nd isn't about hunting!!! When they vilify your 30-06 deer rifle as a sniper rifle, or ban any gun that uses a military caliber, who are you going to go to. The Government? Get your head out of your A$$.
miguelgonzalez 4 months, 2 weeks ago
"Assault rifles should be banned for sale to the public. Those owned should be confiscated."
And pray do tell who would be doing the confiscation? Would you sir care to volunteer?
"I can defend my home if necessary with one gun and five cartridges." I am so glad you already know the amount of ammunition it will take to deal with your upcoming self-defense situation. If I had such predicting powers and know what and when it would occur, I'd be out of my house and have the police deal with it since I have no Rambo in me.
Hink 4 months, 2 weeks ago
The author of this garbage will change his tune as soon as he figures out any upcoming ban will include his Remington 742, Browning BAR, Mini 14, Ruger 10/22 and the like.
StillShooting 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Another liberal plant, just like all those liberal activists that dressed like "doctors" during the Obamacare town hall meetings. When someone says " I'm and NRA member and I support gun control" you should automatically know that they are in fact not an NRA member.
That being said, the 2nd amendment to the constitution was never, and will never be about hunting or target shooting, it is, was, and always be about the right of free citizens to have the ability to throw off a tyrannical government. Nothing else. Period. Now, when your grand confiscation plans start, that is what you will get, good luck getting your local police department to take on that suicide mission, Mr. Utopian Society.
The other thing that should alert people to the fact that this writer is a liberal plant is his lamentation that "they supported the public sale of armored vest-piercing ammo.". I have some news for you, most, if not all rifle calibers will penetrate a standard-issue police vest. Bullet-proof vests that police wear are made to guard against handgun caliber bullets, and that pretty much any rifle bullet above .22 caliber will penetrate them if they are not beefed up with a plate in the front and back that is specifically designed to deflect and or stop a rifle bullet. There are different protection levels assigned to vests, and if you had done one minute of research instead of just writing Mayor Bloomberg's talking points, you would have known that.
Lastly, you don't get to choose what I, or any other American owns or stores in thier gun safe, and thank god for that, because you obviously have no clue what the heck you are talking about. You should stick to running your own life, because you have no business trying to run everyone else's.
LordSkeletor 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Not only are you a bad liar, but you're a Fudd as well. That's a perjorative for the typical, "Elmer Fudd--I'm hunting wabbits", low-information hunter. To actually believe that the NRA would adopt a stance purely on the basis of allowing "armor-piercing ammunition" is both moronic and only illustrates the fact that you are the type of person who believes EVERYTHING that Dan Rather tells you. For your information (seeing as you are a low-information type of person), the NRA opposed the bill in question due to the fact that the Dumbocrats who penned it, craftily wrote the language of of the bill to BAN ANY AMMUNITION which could penetrate a bullet-proof vest. First of all bullet proof vests come in many levels of protection. The lowest level, the most underpowered handgun could often penetrate. Most importantly of all, EVERY SINGLE HUNTING HUNTING RIFLE IN THE WORLD could penetrate a bullet-proof vest. Let me repeat that again for you: EVERY SINGLE HUNTING RIFLE IN THE WORLD SHOOTS A BULLET WHICH CAN PENETRATE A BULLET-PROOF VEST (including shotgun slugs). So...what would this have done? Ohhh...that's right. It would've made every rifle/shotgun (with the exception of a .22LR or so) virtually worthless, as the ammunition would've become illegal and unavailable. So--in wrapping things up: 1) You're dumb. 2) You're the epitome of the typical "low-information" voter/shooter and most certainly a Fudd 3) You were probably not a dues paying member of the NRA. You obviously have no idea what the 2nd Amendment was created for and you certainly aren't worthy of the sacrifices made by our Founding Fathers, or for the scores of people who have died for your freedoms.
C4talyst 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Where to begin with this useless drivel? The 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting. You've painted law-abiding gun owners with a broad brush without using any statistics to back your claim that many are "mentally ill" (frankly I think you could use some counseling yourself, based on your words). You haven't seen any "assault weapons" (I bet you don't know what the term means) in hunting camp because you've never hunted wild hogs. Lastly, your proposal for the ban and confiscation of "assault rifles" is absurd. You don't understand the concepts that made our nation what it is, and you have no idea how to prevent violent crimes. It scares me to think that people with your thought processes vote.
Sugarfree 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Good riddance. You have no idea what the 2nd Amendment is about. . Many owners of modern rifles are crazy??? I am a 32 year old active-duty veteran and I own an AR15. I'm not nearly as crazy as you are ignorant. . Ronald, the NRA always supported guns for self defense, as well as Elmer Fudd-style "sportsmen" like yourself. For such a long standing member, you sure don't know much about the NRA.
RationalThinker 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Since nobody -- including Ronald Davis -- can clearly define an "assault rifle", I propose that it be defined as any rifle with a "shoulder thing that goes up." We can thank Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) for that brilliant definition. She's another unabashed liar, spewing false "facts" and statistics..
Carolyn McCarthy by gloftoe
JebBrown 4 months, 2 weeks ago
I will give up my "Assault Rifle" when you give up your "Sniper Rifle" Mr Davis
VarmintHunter 4 months, 2 weeks ago
It's the Bill of Rights, not Bill of Sports. I suggest you read about Patrick Henry vs. Lord Dunmore in Colonial Virginia
I am under the assumption you have never participated in modern pest depredation on a farm. When reducing groundhog or feral hog populations to protect our food supply, AR-15 rifles are wonderful TOOLS.
I am also under the impression you have never once been in a firefight. As a Operation Iraqi Freedom veteran, I can assure you that when the bad things come in the night you will wish you had an AR-15 as opposed to say a 30-30 lever gun. According to 2007 research performed by the NYPD, http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/public_information/2007_firearms_discharge_report.pdf 42% of Police gunfights involve MORE than 5 rounds fired.
More people were killed recently with blunt objects than your much maligned "Assault rifles" http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0310.pdf I suggest you do more research on this subject instead of dreaming up falsehoods from deer camp.
Just_some_guy 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Ya know guys... No matter how many facts you cite, or how much logic you use, a person such as this Fudd will never change his mind. He is set in his beliefs and nothing less that some sort of significant event that effects him on a very personal level will ever change him. Someday, when the feds come and take his sniper rifle and armor piercing ammo away from him he will experience his epiphany. Like I've heard someone say.... "Ya can't fix stupid". You can however fix ignorance with education. So there is hope for the Fudds, at least the ignorant ones.
skylinefirepest 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Wow, I got into this really late and this non-thinking firearms illiterate has already been skinned and dressed. Not much else that I can add except...when you come for my rifle and mags, Mr. Davis, I suggest that you bring more than five rounds with you and make sure you have called your family funeral director first so that we know what to do with your carcass!!
skylinefirepest 4 months, 2 weeks ago
One more comment, Mr. Davis, on re-reading your drivel. Ridiculous to arm teachers?? That's what we have policemen for??? Don't you know that the NRA suggested just such a thing to protect our schools and the loony liberals went off on them even though Slick Willy Clinton had suggested the same thing several years ago. Arming teachers is probably the only sensible thing to do. But the annointed one in charge will ban something and then the next time it happens he'll cry some more simulated tears and try to ban something else. In short, Mr. Davis, I don't really believe you are capable of protecting yourself with your five round revolver and you sure didn't put forth any ideas about how to protect our kids...typical liberal Democrat!!
geoffcutler 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Of all the letters and articles in The Pilot so far, this one is perhaps the most intellectually vacuous. You say you are experienced with firearms, and instructor even. Well, if that is the case, then you know that 5 round magazines can be dropped and reloaded in about 3 seconds. An experienced shooter with ten 5 round mags. can do exactly what Lanza did with his “assault weapon.” So please…if a school is left unprotected… there is no-one with your experience with guns to stop the shooter… tell us how the results of Newtown would be any different if Lanza carried only a handgun and a pocket full of extra magazines?
Since I’m sure you can’t, and won’t, let me suggest to you that the only difference is the willingness and intent to kill. In Newtown’s case, as with so many other like cases, the willingness and intent involves the mental stability of the shooter, and not the weapon. Because of your past allegiance to the NRA, and your personal experience with guns, you, of all writers to this “discussion,” should know that.
OlKev 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Since when did the Second Amendment become exclusive to sport or hunting? The so called “assault rifle” (which is a misnomer, by the way) is used in sporting activities and shooting competitions all over the country. I see no mention of sport or hunting in the amendment itself nor do I see it limited to muskets or 5 shots either. I have seen much written by the founding fathers that drafted and ratified the Constitution and they do not write of the Second Amendment in the context of hunting either.
Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth. - George Washington
The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good. - George Washington
"Never trust a government that doesn't trust its own citizens with guns." – Benjamin Franklin
"Americans [have] the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust their people with arms." – James Madison
"The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms . . ." - Samuel Adams
"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms..." - Richard Henry Lee - Senator, First Congress
"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?" - Patrick Henry
"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed and that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of press." - Thomas Jefferson
"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property... Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them." – Thomas Paine
"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States." – Noah Webster
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." - Thomas Jefferson
Mr. Davis, I know not of what you speak!
OldPilot 4 months, 2 weeks ago
All this discussion about what is and isn't an "assault weapon" is silly. It's the functionality, not the form, that's the issue. That said, if one wants to argue semantics, the second amendment speaks of A) the necessity for a well regulated militia to the security of a free state, in conjunction with B) the right to keep and bear arms. Neither phrase stands alone. Dictionary definitions as used in the context of the second amendment: the word "keep" would mean "posess" or "be in possession of",
"bear" would mean "carry" or "hold", in conjunction with "a well regulated militia", which would mean "an organized group with training available to devend the community". Thus literally and correctly one may possess and carry arms as necessitated by an organized group with training available to defend the community. Interesting that the founding fathers could have said "own" rather than "keep and bear", but chose not to do so. That said the most recent U. S. Supreme Court decisions have said that reasonable firearm restrictions are constitutional. Thus as to Mr. Davis suggestions, don't confiscate assault weapon clones and high capacity , buy them back at market rates for a reaonable period of time then make their possession a felony at the end of that period. Also disallow gun show sale of any type or weapon without a full background check, failure to do so a felony chargable against the seller.
packwilleat 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Oldpilot ~ "militia" I don't think you know the meaning of the word, or the founders intent to rely on militia and not a standing army. Any able body man between the ages 17-65 is a member of the militia. It is not intended to defend our government but to defend our country and the American ideology of life, liberty, and property.
geoffcutler 4 months, 2 weeks ago
It never ceases to amuse how liberals must put the Constitution through all manner of verbal calisthenics and contortions to get it to say or mean whatever it is they need it to say or mean....Instead of believing in, or relying on, what it says.
hessler 4 months, 2 weeks ago
"I quit the NRA when they supported the public sale of armored vest-piercing ammo."Strong
A round from your beloved .30-06 will penetrate most armor worn by LEOs. Repeated hits will penetrate ceramic armor.
FBI data indicate that handguns are responsible for more homicides than rifles by more than a factor of 15:1. Since you did not list a handgun in your "arsenal" I assume you will demand the confiscation of those next.
If you can find the word "hunting" in the entire Constitution, much less the Bill of Rights I will donate $1000 to your favorite charity.
In conclusion, I doubt you were ever a member of the NRA. If you still have an American Rifleman at hand, post your membership number.
Hoodkeep 4 months, 2 weeks ago
So Ronnie -
You make this submission like it's a news event related to recent activities, yet Ted Kennedy made the proposal to ban "cop killer" bullets in February of 2004. So did you quit back then, or what?
Here's the link: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d108:3:./temp/~bdZAxK::
The way Kennedy's ban was worded, your beloved "sportsman and hunting" guns would have been firing "cop killer" bullets, because police vests are rated to stop pistol rounds, not rifle rounds like hunters use.
Did you get that? Kennedy's "Cop killer" bullet ban would have outlawed all centerfire rifle ammunition. That's why the NRA opposed it.
As for your myopic view that a ban on mis-named "assault weapons" will appease the anti-gun furor, perhaps you've forgotten the clamor to ban "sniper rifles" that was present during the "Beltway Sniper" crisis.
Let's see - by "hunting" or "sporting" rifle you probably mean a centerfire rifle equipped with a telescopic sight, correct?
With a few "well intentioned" and "reasonable" words on paper from a politician feeling the need to "do something", your treasured hunting rifle becomes a deadly "sniper assault rifle" capable of killing children and innocents at a distance of hundreds of yards.
At which point you'll exclaim "But... my rifles were never used to hurt anyone!", and you'll hear the greek chorus of disarmed former semi-automatic rifle owners echoing "neither were ours".
I don't a slight change of Rev. Niemöller's poem is unwarranted given the hysteria and misinformation surrounding the issue today - especially from those who claim to be on "our side":
First they criminalized for the machine guns for "public safety", - but I did not own machine guns so I did not speak out.
Then they criminalized the assault weapons for "public safety", - but I did not own so-called "assault weapons", so I did not speak out.
Then they criminalized the handguns for "public safety", - but I was not a handgunner so I did not speak out.
And then they criminalized my scoped hunting rifle and double barreled shotgun for "public safety", - but there was no one left to speak out for me.
Thatcher 4 months, 2 weeks ago
What an amazing thread, with so many new posters. Great job all! Impossible for anyone to add anything else to this discussion. And geoff was spot on: liberals sometimes contort themselves with verbal gymnastics to avoid the meaning of the Second Amendment. If they want to repeal/revise this Amendment, there is a well-known process for that. If you feel so strongly that the Second Amendment should be repealed, then by all means try to do so. But pretending it doesn't mean what it says is not very persuasive. Cheers!
Thatcher 4 months, 2 weeks ago
And for what it's worth, here's what happens when an ex-con in Georgia forces his way into a home where a mother is hell-bent on protecting her kids: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/06/georgia-mom-home-alone-with-kids-shoots-ex-con-intruder/?intcmp=HPBucket. Required reading for interested liberals...known fact for conservatives and libertarians. Cheers!
skyhawk 4 months, 2 weeks ago
YES SIR TAKE UP ALL OUR WEPONS AND GUESS WHO STILL HAS THIERS? CROOKS, THATS WHO. CANT YOU PEOPLE USE COMMON SENSE??
Thatcher 4 months, 2 weeks ago
skyhawk-- Sadly, no. Cheers!
Yukonjohn 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Mr. Davis, What you suggest is a receipe for civil war.
packwilleat 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Prior to 1986 all civilians could legally own fully automatic machine guns. Where were the crazed gunmen back then? What has so fundamentally changed in our society that these mass murders are a new norm? We can't keep going on blaming guns. We need to start blaming ourselves for raising generations of individuals that believe violence/murder is justified. Morality is crumbling at an astonishing rate in America from multiple directions. It's time we stop talking guns and start talking about non-agression and peace.
Link to 1986 machine gun ban.........
Firearm Owners Protection Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
MoldyLunchbox 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Yeah you enjoy your 5-round magazine when the zombie apocalypse begins.
packwilleat 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Moldyluchbox ~ too late!!
by Randy
Yukonjohn 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Hey Thatcher, Pack and Skylinefirepest. I hope all of your weekends have gone well. This whole situation is scarey as hell to me. I worry so for our Nation. Not sure what the answer will be, but l know what my personal answer to this is. I trust that you guys know yours as well. God help our Union.
Yukonjohn 4 months, 2 weeks ago
If they want to repeal/revise this Amendment, there is a well-known process for that. If you feel so strongly that the Second Amendment should be repealed, then by all means try to do so. But pretending it doesn't mean what it says is not very persuasive. Cheers!
Thatcher, you are "spot on" with your comment.
packwilleat 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Yukon ~ speaking of civil war...... "you can't trust freedom when it's not in your hands".
Guns n Roses Civil war live (Voodoo Child intro) by Tomasch
JD 4 months, 2 weeks ago
by JD
packwilleat 4 months, 2 weeks ago
JD ~ everything that has been said, has been said before. How many times to we have to keep bring up the same topics?
fugitiveguy 4 months, 2 weeks ago
"Can you imagine requiring all teachers to become gun-qualified to obtain a teaching certificate?"
No I cannot esp since this is a completely phony baloney premise.
Thatcher 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Thanks Yukon! Like I've said before, this topic is emotional for all involved. Be well my friend! Cheers!
Yukonjohn 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Hey Thatcher my Friend, It is a very emotional issue. I am not a screaming NRA member, and l haven't even done very much hunting in the last several seasons, although l do consider myself a hunter. I am so afraid that the liberal side of this issue is bent on pushing this through, possibly without changing the Constitution. That would be a terrible blow to our country. I hope they realize the mistake that it would be to try and confiscate guns from law abiding citizens. I am all for a Constitutional amendment, or a change to what we have, as l feel sure it would never pass muster. No matter what one chooses for a religion, we need devine help in this matter.
Thatcher 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Thanks Yukon, and I'm a firm believer in divine help for all things, including this. I don't think liberals could ever succeed in confiscating guns...although many of them want to. And many of them who say they don't want to would tell you, over a couple of beers, that they want to. That leaves the few liberals who don't want to. That's the way I see it. Stay warm up there you beast...only 9 more months of winter! Ha! Cheers!
fugitiveguy 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Hey, yukon did you feel any rumblings from the quake. Thought about you when I heard the news.
JD 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Pack-How many times to we have to keep bring up the same topics?
Hence no hope meme...
But thanks this has been pretty funny for the most part, even though its like a bad re-run of tired dialogue.
packwilleat 4 months, 2 weeks ago
JD ~ yup. It's getting quite tiring to say the least. Conservatives want to keep their guns and freedom, and Liberals want to usurp and confiscate. End of story. But the only question I have is...... who is going to do the confiscating? Our service men/women took an oath to up hold the constitution. Unless there is a constitutional amendment then any act to confiscate weapons would be gruesome. I wish them the best of luck in their endeavors in trying to disarm citizens, weather it be by amendment, force, or voluntarily. Not only is it just guns but property, ya know one of those things our government is supposed to protect.
Yukonjohn 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Hey Fugitiveguy, We did not feel anything here. We are many hundred miles from there. Hope you have had a stellar weekend!!!
fugitiveguy 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Had a great weekend Yukon. Today I biked about 30 miles roundtrip on Beulah Hill Rd out to 24/27 and back. I believe you are familiar with this area. Only a few menacing dogs. Only one vehicle encroached on me, a minivan with an Obama/Biden sticker on it. (no joke)
Thatcher 4 months, 2 weeks ago
fugitiveguy-- That was probably southernpinesupperwestside's minivan, on his way to D.C. for the swearing in of our president barack obama. Stop getting in his way. Cheers!
Just_some_guy 4 months, 2 weeks ago
I don't think that this thread went as Mr. Davis had intended.
ProudYankee 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Good letter, Mr. Davis. While I don't agree with all your points, (confiscation, for one), anything that gets the wingnuts panties in a wad as much as your letter did makes me smile....
FightFireWithFire 4 months, 2 weeks ago
This:
FightFireWithFire 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Having some issue with getting my pic to post, oh, well.
Arestorer 4 months, 2 weeks ago
If the 2nd was meant to inable us to deffend ourselves against a(our) Government,and the NRA is fighting for our 2nd rights,Why can I still not purchase a weapon that would allow me to defend myself against our Military's arsenal....AR-15 against Cobra mounted Mini-gun...not good odds..
When the 2nd was written,the government was not spending Billions on an Organized Army....
SH59 4 months, 2 weeks ago
For those of you who insist on dividing this issue along party lines you need to let go of your prejudices. I don't agree with most of you on a regular basis but I am a gun owner and am against everything this idiot is saying.
skylinefirepest 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Good comment SH59 but unfortunately gun control is the party platform of the Dems. Therefore it's sort of hard to separate the parties from the issue.
krl10 4 months, 2 weeks ago
First of all, is this the product of a rational, healthy’ thought process?, “skylinefirepest 1 day, 7 hours ago “Wow, I got into this really late and this non-thinking firearms illiterate has already been skinned and dressed. Not much else that I can add except...when you come for my rifle and mags, Mr. Davis, I suggest that you bring more than five rounds with you and make sure you have called your family funeral director first so that we know what to do with your carcass!!” It seemed a little suspect to me, but I admit I am way left of what you hero’s would consider liberal, therefore probably not able to discern the subtleties contained in the paragraph.
Secondly, just to be clear, all you guys demand possession of high capacity weapons because you may have to defend yourself against the US Government? I guess that would mean the US military. Is the skyline guy going to be the leader of this patriotic effort? Civil War? How many of you are fat, old, or just basically out of shape? How many of you ever miss a meal or really do anything that necessitates a hardship? Please don’t start any wars boys. But do keep up the good work. This is very amusing material.
skylinefirepest 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Krl10...a couple of thoughts for your consideration...first at this late stage we on the pro-gun side are getting really fed up with the lies and lack of cogent thought process on our opponents side of the game. Second, consider this...we ol, fat, lazy Southern boys that have been brought up around guns for all our lives and consider them to be simply tools really know how to shoot and we're old enough that we can really be bitchy when pushed!!
BillLindau 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Good letter, Ronnie! You make better sense than everybody who cut you down put together. I am all for a firearm being used for self-protection and target shooting and the idea of government agents storming into people's houses and taking away their guns is some kind of paranoid fantasy. I don't see why any private citizen needs an AK47 or one of those multi-round magazines. It appears so many gun-rights advocates get squinky over the most sensible proposals since the ban on male-order guns and ammo back in '68. If they had their way, you could legally own a tank, an assault helicopter or even an aircraft character. Where's it going to end with these people. Don't let the (love children) grind you down, Ronnie!
MarkinMiami 4 months, 2 weeks ago
good riddance. we don't need you. This guy would be a perfect obamabot
skylinefirepest 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Mr Lindau, you haven't read a thing, have you?? You are in favor of banning a semi-auto rifle?? Multi-round mags? Let's see...channel five last night...two men broke into a house and assaulted the wife and her husband. Are you one of those that thinks you could run these felons off with five rounds?? Or are you really more willing to admit that if you need a lot of rounds that these magazines might well have a good purpose for family defense?? Honest answer please.