Checks and Balances

JimHeim 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Simply breathtaking. The constitution which mentions God exactly zero times is a religious document. The Founders couldn't have dome this on their own. Really. I guess we'll have to quit calling them amendments and start calling them commandments.

SH59 3 months, 2 weeks ago

"The Declaration of Independence and Constitution of the United States are religious documents. Neither would exist without the world view that all legitimate law has its roots in God. Individual freedom is not humanistic in origin."

Really?

dustyrhoades 3 months, 2 weeks ago

The latest example of strategy that threatens our way of life is that of bypassing the Congress and going forward with gun control regulations.

This is, of course, another total fabrication.

I thought there was a Commandment about bearing false witness?

JimRussell44 3 months, 2 weeks ago

" It is the duty of the Congress to impeach a president that forgets his place....". Now there is a statement that says a whole lot about what it's really all about.

JimHeim 3 months, 2 weeks ago

By the way, today is the hundredth anniversary of the graduated income tax, one of the best laws ever passed by congress. Without it we would never have made it to the top of the world's economic heap. Hip hip hooray.

dustyrhoades 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Jim: everyone knows that the President may be impeached for "treason, bribery, other high crimes and misdemeanors, or being an uppity Negro who doesn't know his place".

Read your Constitution!

fugitiveguy 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Well heeled white liberals playing the race card, how do you dialogue with the purveyors of such horse crap?

JimHeim 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Has Mr Obama violated any laws yet, or is he exercising the privileges of his office as defined in the constitution? Are the people revolting or is it just right-wingers? (couldn't resist that one)

Now that we've established that the constitution is scripture, I would think anything it allows the president to do is God's will.

Mr Creech says that the people are the ultimate court. How does that work exactly? I thought impeachment (the only way to remove a sitting president legally) was reserved for Congress. How do the people supersede that? And then there's that Supreme Court thingy in the Constitution. I'm so confused.

Heck, Obama has yet to issue so much as a single executive order regarding guns or gun control. What's got Dwight in such a state?

dustyrhoades 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Sad fact: during my "religion period" in my early teens, I actually attended this church on a regular basis, and dealt with Mr. Creech a lot.

On the upside, it was like a vaccination against fundamentalism and most religion in general. Having had a severe case of the infection, I'm now immune.

Nothing will turn a person away from what passes for Christianity like some of its followers.

JimHeim 3 months, 2 weeks ago

I hear that his concealed carry classes are the same.

JimHeim 3 months, 2 weeks ago

fugitiveguy - It's historical fact. Southern states were deeply concerned that the new federal government would interfere with slavery. That's why the second amendment was important to secure their votes for ratification.

Why do you think we have the electoral college? Same thing. Without the slaves as part of the 'electorate' even though they were not citizens or voters, the North would outnumber the South's vote. thus the three-fifths compromise.

As uncomfortable as history might be, it is what it is. Get over it.

fugitiveguy 3 months, 2 weeks ago

"Southern states were deeply concerned that the new federal government would interfere with slavery"

In actuality wasn't it southern Democrats?

Thatcher 3 months, 2 weeks ago

JimHeim-- As our expert on history, what did the South think of velcro? Cheers!

fugitiveguy 3 months, 2 weeks ago

"Why do you think we have the electoral college?"

So a handful of states would decide the election for the whole country. It was a good idea then and its a good idea now. You lefties support whatever system most likely assures perpetual rule. Sadly you may already be there. The low information voters/gimme crowd votes very heavily democrat and they are increasing in numbers all the time. The ship is going down though, its just a matter of time.

The_AnonymusProfit 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Mr creech you are the reason the gop is dying. If you keep.this.up there will be no gop left for.young people like me who are fiscal conservatives. Your ideas on the constitution are so far of balane that i wonder myself if you have evrr read the constitution.

Such a sad state of affairs.

dentman65 3 months, 2 weeks ago

I have been reading this morning that supposedly there are 19 (or21) executive orders on Obama's table that he may sign that some say will attack gun rights when he signs them, one being that under Obama care the Doctor will ask you if you own a gun. If this were to come to pass would this change anyone on this board's opinion of Presidential powers over-riding the constitution?

JD 3 months, 2 weeks ago

I like facts to back up outlandish statements. Unfortunately, Mr. Creech has none but the one's he thought up while writing the OP.

dustyrhoades 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Dentman, it's always a good idea to read the actual orders rather than what "some say." Here they are:

Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
Propose rule making to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
Nominate an ATF director .
Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.

dustyrhoades 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Nothing about seizing guns, nothing requiring doctors to ask if you have a gun (merely saying that it's not forbidden under the ACA does not make it compulsory). And all squarely within the President's powers. Heck, some of them, like putting more school resource officers in schools, are similar to what conservatives claim they want.

Anytime conservatives claim that President Obama has said something or done something, Dentman, go to the actual statement if you can an read it in its entirety, because conservatives like to lie and put words into people's mouths that they didn't say.

JimHeim 3 months, 2 weeks ago

That federal judge upended over a hundred years of presidential appointments and the rulings of a number of other courts. I seriously doubt it will stand.

Middleman522 3 months, 2 weeks ago

See what happens when you mention the Constitutions with all of these libyappers. "Americans are clinging to their guns and religion". "A group of unelected judges(Supremes) thinks they can overturned a law(campaign reform) passed by elected officials, (obama and 'his" congress). "The people that listen to Rush Limbaugh and FOX News, blah blah blah". "If congress does not act, I'll do everything I can without them"! I'm paraphrasing, of course". How many amendments does he complain about there? He has no respect for the Supreme Court, obvious by his two radical appointments, or Congress, when they don't kiss his ring, or the Constitution, obvious by his wanting to change or stomp on it. The reason you libs don't see this is because of the kool-aid! No budget, executive orders that are radical and other spending and controlling moves that are just not American. Do you really think he cares about "our debt"?? Dusty, Russell, Heim, do you care about "our debt"? Does Congress not get to decide when the hell they are on recess Heim? Drop the word KING from your mind for just a minute, and think about this clown! And now he blaims congress for our problems and wants more taxes. Where does it stop. And why is he building this civilian army and stocking up on hollowpoints, 1 billion rounds?

JimHeim 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Dentman - Mr Obama has never issued an executive order regarding guns or gun control and I doubt he ever will.

JimHeim 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Middleman - ' And why is he building this civilian army and stocking up on hollowpoints, 1 billion rounds?'

Really? Where do you learn this crap?

dentman65 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Thanks Dusty,,,,,I new you'd straighten me out.....and you are right.....I can check several different sites and get all different stories. There was one site called "the minuteman" I think, that'll scare ya to death. It is just hard for me to see thru the politics to get the actual tooth of the story. I am sure if The President crosses the line with this there will be an article to let us know about it. Make it a great day!

geoffcutler 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Jim, I won't pretend to know what's going on, but try typing in "DHS purchases Hollow point ammunition" on Google and start reading for yourself.

JimHeim 3 months, 2 weeks ago

geoff - I'm quite familiar with the issue of DHS purchasing ammunition. It should be no surprise that the federal government has thousands of people who carry guns. They need ammunition. So what's the big deal?

dustyrhoades 3 months, 2 weeks ago

The DHS is the parent agency of the Border Patrol, the US Customs Service, the Federal Protection Service ("responsible for law enforcement and facility security for nearly 9,000 federally owned and leased buildings, courthouses, properties, and other federal assets and the personnel associated with those assets"), the National Infrastructure Protection Center, the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center, the US Coast Guard, and the Secret Service.

And you have a problem with them buying a lot of ammo?

JimRussell44 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Common guys, don't give these wingnuts the facts. They want to believe that there is some sinister reason for everything. It feeds that fear that drives them.

JimRussell44 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Of course, their immediate response is that we have all been drinking Kool Aid.

geoffcutler 3 months, 2 weeks ago

"The Department of Homeland Security has purchased 1.4 billion rounds of ammunition- that is not a typo -- during the last six months. This includes 450 million rounds of .40 hollow point, 200 million rounds of .223 rifle ammunition, and 176,000 rounds of .308 168-grain hollow point boat tail (HPBT) that is used almost exclusively as ammo for sniper rifles." American Thinker Sept. 2012

So let me understand. You guys have problems with "assault rifles" and "high capacity magazines" in the hands of citizens, but don't bat an eyelash about what appears to be an unusually high volume of ammo being stockpiled by the DHS, who when questioned on why they are stockpiling so much ammo...won't answer.

geoffcutler 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Remember when the left and its media toadies wanted Bush impeached because they thought DHS was looking over their shoulders at the library? En masse hysteria...stories everyday on the tube and in the papers. Now, DHS stockpiling billions of rounds of hollow point ammo... dead silence from the media...and ridicule from the same people who thought their library cards were at risk.Times sure change depending on who's in the White House. What a hoot!

dustyrhoades 3 months, 2 weeks ago

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(bracing self for more whining from Preacher Geoff about how mean I am for making fun of him).

Thatcher 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Preacher Geoff can speak for himself. To me, you are certainly mean. In addition you are intellectually dishonest, rude, gross, and disrespectful to anyone who dares to disagree with you. Because you are a lawyer, you believe you are smarter and more intelligent than anyone else here...which explains your name-calling of "wingnut," "dimwit," and "idiot"...just to name a few which have not been removed by Pilot editors. Insults appear to be your passion, as explained by the above. With all due respect, you have become a caricature, reduced to posting pics of tin-foil hats and crying babies...to support your "argument." The reality is that by doing these things, you only buttress your caricature and show everyone how shallow and petty you are. And that is sad, because you are smart enough to add to the discussion here. Unfortunately, it appears that you have chosen a different path of constant insults, etc. That is your choice. And many of us here hope you reconsider. Cheers!

geoffcutler 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Doesn't matter what he says. Never did. Notice he had no response other than to be typically childish and rude. It's the joke that just keeps on giving.

Thatcher 3 months, 2 weeks ago

And I really hope you reconsider your choice because I suspect, deep-down, your are really a nice, smart guy who has got caught up in the liberal name-calling. Think about it. Cheers!

dustyrhoades 3 months, 2 weeks ago

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Thatcher 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Hopeless.

Thatcher 3 months, 2 weeks ago

And I was mistaken: tin-foil hats, crying babies, and cats. Cheers!

geoffcutler 3 months, 2 weeks ago

T...no reason to get worked up about Dusty. He has nothing you ever needed to get worked up about. Just laugh, and let him roll of you. Easier to respond that way. A good joke deserves a good laugh.

Thatcher 3 months, 2 weeks ago

geoff-- I think you are right, and I think you were right for questioning the number of times I've tried to defend DR. Obviously, and based upon his posts, he thinks I am an idiot wingnut and he does not want me defending him. Fair enough. I won't. Cheers my friend!

samosamo 3 months, 2 weeks ago

Perhaps a little civil unrest is coming to the homeland. Look into how much ammo the social security adminstration purchased.

dustyrhoades 3 months, 2 weeks ago

I actually did try to post some facts about why the DHS buying ammo wasn't a big deal...Preacher Geoff just went right on blathering his paranoid nonsense about how ominous it all is because of the Big Scary Man in the White House. There's no cure for Obama Derangement Syndrome that's this far advanced. The only thing to do is mock the afflicted.

And frankly, I do so enjoy needling these two pompous asses. I can make them go on like this for hours, abandoning all other discussion in favor of patting each other on the back and commenting on nothing but how much they're offended by me.

samosamo 3 months, 2 weeks ago

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/suppression.html More to chew on,.

geoffcutler 3 months, 2 weeks ago

T- the thing is, Conservatives on this site have let the child have his way since the Pilot opened this page, and they too often respond to being baited by being rude back to him. Wrong tact. Much better that everyone let the rudeness roll off and respond with laughter, or ignore him altogether. He's a one-trick pony columnist who behaves like a picked-on kindergartner. He's meaningless, and should be treated as such.

dustyrhoades 3 months, 2 weeks ago

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dustyrhoades 3 months, 2 weeks ago

He's meaningless, and should be treated as such.

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Good doggie!

JimHeim 3 months, 1 week ago

Is there any evidence that DHS ammo purchases are significantly different now than under Mr Obama's predecessor? Please show your numbers.

Is it possible that the nation's security needs are increasing? Where are our country's teachers going to get their ammunition?

Why are conservatives so worked up that the federal government chooses to use the same munitions as most police departments?

And what's this nonsense about a civilian army? Where are they getting their bullets?

dustyrhoades 3 months, 1 week ago

JimHeim: Good luck, but Geoff and Thatcher would rather whine about me than answer those questions.

Middleman522 3 months, 1 week ago

Heim once again needs a "blue dress" to wake up! Maybe if you would get your head out of Chris Mathews' well you know what I mean, you may see some facts. He nor you can spell facts! And if I thought like a liberal, facts would scare the hell out of me too! And like Oblaima gives a damn about our borders. Those are the cheapest votes money can buy!! Let the illegals in and the legals will vote for you. 72% after making illegal kids legal. An idea he stole from Rubio! Facts work for you now?

Middleman522 3 months, 1 week ago

Try to buy ammo right now and see if that bothers you. Price has tripled on most and it's hard to find some! Why would DHS be getting so much, now Walmart sells none, and Second Amendment harassment continues, just like Speech is being harassed (FOX and Rush), not to mention Religion with birth control and prayer bans. It's just his first MONTH of his final stand! More radical every day! Universal Background Checks really means Universal Gun Owner Locations. That's all! The mental health issue needs to be addressed but libs are afraid they're going to get committed! Can you blame them. lol Dusty, Heim, and Russell, do you really think your boy would use hollowpoints on the borders that he wants to be open? Those are future voters. We're not!!

JimHeim 3 months, 1 week ago

OOOhhhh, it's a conspiracy. Obama cleverly bought ammunition for the government's security services last year so that this year child killers would have trouble getting their rounds. Diabolical.

Please point out to me where the constitution guarantees that gun owners remain anonymous. Where exactly do you find that?

In reality, our first responders have a right to know if the burning house is an arsenal. You might be surprised to know that sometimes gun-toting whack-jobs start fires and then ambush the fire fighters. They deserve a heads-up so that the building can be neutralized before they risk their lives in what might be a trap. You got a problem with that?

geoffcutler 3 months, 1 week ago

Actually, Jim, that's a good question,

geoffcutler 3 months, 1 week ago

Most all the websites devoted to the question of whether the ammo purchases rose significantly under Obama suggest that they have. Under Bush from 2002 when DHS was created to 2009, Ammo purchases by DHS, totaled about 825 million. From 2010 to mid-2012 that number more than doubled to 2 billion rounds.

What that means remains unknown, but it is interesting that while there was a bit of attention paid to the SSA's ammo purchases, the mainstream media seems to have totally ignored the DHS purchases and huge uptick during Obama's first term.

Themis 3 months, 1 week ago

"(The Constitution preserves) the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. Let the sun not set a day in America when a citizen cannot be armed." -James Madison

Middleman522 3 months, 1 week ago

And no our first responders don't have a right to know what's in my house. Once again you bring up a case of MENTAL HEALTH with the fire fighters getting shot! Just what we've been saying. Why are fire fighters not armed? We are at war with extremists scattered all over the world. You never know where they will show up next. And no Oblaima is stocking up in case his next unconstitutional act finally makes this country mad enough to revolt! He's got 4 years to do that. I think he's up to the task! The fact that half of this country can be duped is what scares me! Not him!!

JimHeim 3 months, 1 week ago

Middleman - Please produce your evidence that snipers are mentally ill.

BTW - How do you propose for firefighters to put out the flames with both hands occupied holding an assault rifle?

dustyrhoades 3 months, 1 week ago

Why are fire fighters not armed?

Crazier and crazier.

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geoffcutler 3 months, 1 week ago

How about when a fire call comes in, responders include a cruiser if we're so concerned about the one case of firemen coming under fire from your "gun-toting whacko."

JimHeim 3 months, 1 week ago

Let's see if I have this right. The NRA wants our teachers to be gunfighters, our school janitors to be gunfighters, our firefighters to be gunfighters. How about EMTs, MDs, RNs, LPNs?

Have you people completely lost your bearings? These notions are beyond insane and those preaching them are moronic buffoons. Full stop.

dustyrhoades 3 months, 1 week ago

I think I need to be able to carry an assault rifle into court in case they get too tyrannical. Because FREEDOM!

Note to Judges Webb, Maness, Gavin, Creed, Etheridge, Wilkins, Heafner, and Hill: I'm kidding.

geoffcutler 3 months, 1 week ago

If you're a leftie, believing in what the Constitution says now means you've lost your bearings. Funny.

Thatcher 3 months, 1 week ago

JimHeim-- I have forever been intrigued by your debate tactic, "full stop." Is a half stop OK? What about a 3/4 stop? What if one decelerates and actually puts their argument in reverse? All kidding aside, you should confront your debate teacher and demand your money back (Obama will pay for this in his next stimulus). Cheers!

JimRussell44 3 months, 1 week ago

Middleman522 has lost more than his bearings. Geoff Cutler, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I think your last comment insinuates that every man woman and child should be armed in order to follow the dictates of our Constitution. Do I have that right? If not, please clarify.

JimRussell44 3 months, 1 week ago

Thatcher, what we have is not "debate" here. Some of us have attempted it but it takes two to do it. All we are doing here is stating our positions. Some do it better than others.

Yukonjohn 3 months, 1 week ago

JimRussell44, I believe that is what the founders wanted, every man that can, be armed. I believe it was Washington that said it, but can go verify.

JimHeim 3 months, 1 week ago

Here's the deal. You and your friends are not going to take on the US Army - not now, not ever. When the cops knock on your door, you'll be polite and accommodating. Because those who take up arms against government authority get dead. That's how it works.

You can parade around Lowes with that Glock on your hip, but when you find your self looking down the barrel of an M4, the game will be over. As will your freshly laundered shorts.

You guys are all bluster and no action. If your fantasies weren't getting our children slaughtered we would simply laugh.

Yukonjohn 3 months, 1 week ago

My mistake JimRussell44, it was Thomas Jefferson in a letter. Here is his take on it:

“The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves in all cases to which they think themselves competent, or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of the press.” Thomas Jefferson (letter to John Cartwright, 1824)

Yukonjohn 3 months, 1 week ago

JimH, l just cannot figure out how abiding by our Constitution and Bill of Rights is laughable.

dustyrhoades 3 months, 1 week ago

Here's the deal. You and your friends are not going to take on the US Army - not now, not ever. When the cops knock on your door, you'll be polite and accommodating. Because those who take up arms against government authority get dead. That's how it works.

But...but....WOLVERINES!

Thatcher 3 months, 1 week ago

"You guys are all bluster and no action. If your fantasies weren't getting our children slaughtered we would simply laugh." You should of thought of "full stop" before posting that nonsense. Cheers!

Yukonjohn 3 months, 1 week ago

Thatcher...LOL Hope your day has gone well. It is lovely here, cloudy and warm 0F.

geoffcutler 3 months, 1 week ago

Jim, I have problems with people who are mentally unstable having access to guns, which should be understandable to everyone, since most of our gun fatalities revolve around the unstable or criminals with easy access. Can we all agree on that?

Otherwise, yes, I believe in the second amendment to our Constitution. Don't you?

Thatcher 3 months, 1 week ago

Yukon! It's great here...got above 60 degrees today. Stay warm up there you libertarian beast! Cheers!

geoffcutler 3 months, 1 week ago

T- good response to Heim. Humor...that's the ticket!

Thatcher 3 months, 1 week ago

geoff-- Other than with humor, how else could anyone ever respond to such posts? Cheers!

geoffcutler 3 months, 1 week ago

Exactly!

dustyrhoades 3 months, 1 week ago

T- good response to Heim. Humor...that's the ticket!

I thought you said ridicule was an attempt to silence the opposition? "Alinsky 101," I believe you called it.

Maybe you're learning....or maybe, as always for you, IOKIYAR!

JimHeim 3 months, 1 week ago

You all seem to pretend that anyone who does something you can't justify with a gun is mentally unstable. Could it be that they're just bad people who do despicable things?

Thatcher 3 months, 1 week ago

Humor need not include insulting words like "idiot," "moron," "teabagger," "stupid,"...or other charming words which the Pilot editors decided to remove. You should try it sometime. Cheers!

geoffcutler 3 months, 1 week ago

Humor, not ridicule and insult.

geoffcutler 3 months, 1 week ago

Yes, Jim, they're called criminals, and they should be disarmed. But good luck with that.

Thatcher 3 months, 1 week ago

"Could it be that they're just bad people who do despicable things?" Yes. It could. And thank you for arguing against gun control. Cheers!

dustyrhoades 3 months, 1 week ago

Humor, not ridicule and insult.

You say tomayto, I say tomahto...

Thatcher 3 months, 1 week ago

Uh, no. We say humor with no insults. You say insults with no humor. Cheers!

geoffcutler 3 months, 1 week ago

No-one expects you to know the difference.

JimHeim 3 months, 1 week ago

geoff - The the mentally unstable you earlier referred to aren't the whole problem. What's your fix?

The American fetishization of assault weapons is morbid and troubling. So far they have provided no documented upside and a well-documented downside. A nation of Rambo wannabees is dangerous (and not a little pathetic). While they lack the guts to take on 'tyranny' they fill their days with paranoid fantasies until they can't resist shooting a school bus driver and whisking a five-year-old to their prepper lair.

No other western democracy has such an outdated relic as the second amendment and their lives are much less frequently punctuated with child slaughter. Plus they live longer, healthier lives. Might not be a coincidence.

Please tell me how America has been made freer by the 1,200 children killed by guns just since Newtown.

Thatcher 3 months, 1 week ago

"While they lack the guts to take on 'tyranny' they fill their days with paranoid fantasies until they can't resist shooting a school bus driver and whisking a five-year-old to their prepper lair." Your Moore County Democrat Chairman. No response is necessary. Cheers!

geoffcutler 3 months, 1 week ago

Jim, the people I know with the assault weapons you refer to...they're not killing people. Criminals and the mentally unstable are. So why not focus your anti-gun ownership efforts on them...where they belong, and let those law-abiding Americans who own these legal firearms..hunt their deer, or protect themselves as they see fit, which is their second amendment right..

dentman65 3 months, 1 week ago

I think anyone who believes that everyone in America will soil their shorts and hand over their guns without a fight is sadly in for a shock. I was raised in a very rural part of Robbins in Moore County and can take you to homes that have never had running water or electricity. These men walk barefoot in the snow, run through a briarpatch with no shirt, and bite the heads off of snakes. I have seen it and lived it. You can bet they'd not hand over their guns, or their beer or moonshine without a fight. Laugh if you will, but they are here, and they walk among us. " those who take up arms against government authority get dead" from Jim Heim's above statement maybe true, but I think we all forget that once upon a time the founders of this country did just that.....they took on an armed government and won.....and here we are. Moore County alone is full of war-hardened vetereans from WWII, Korea, Vietnam and the Middle East. Most of them are not afraid of dying, they have allready been there. Our founding fathers were not afraid to die for what they believed. I don't think Americans in general are that weak or that afraid. Not to mention you would have to count on the fact that armed soldiers and police would have to be willing to fire and kill their own brothers ,mothers and fathers and children just to obey an order half of them would not approve of in the first place. It would be a blood bath and the streets would run red. The Japanese in WWII never seriously thought of invading the U.S because they knew that behind every bush and tree there would be an American with a gun. Americans have never been afraid of a fight when their heart was truly in the cause. You can call me a radical if you wish, but at one time that is exactily what Americans were. The blood of many of those first great patriots who took arms against an armed government still flows through many of us today, and maybe many on this board. We only need be pushed into a corner to show our teeth! I'm not wingnut enough to state that they'll pry the gun from my cold dead hands, but rest assured, if this gun crap ever goes that far in the U.S., they'll need a fleet of backhoes and bodybags to bury the carnage from thier little police action. Just how long do you think the public is going to put up with police and military firing into homes full of women and children just to confiscate a shotgun and a .22 pistol? Americans weak? Americans soiling their shorts? I have much more faith in us than that. I only hope that no politician is fool enough to ever try us!!! Make it a great day.

geoffcutler 3 months, 1 week ago

And, Jim, if you get the chance, tell us why you're perfectly happy to have DHS acquiring 2 billion round of hollow point ammo, but would restrict or take away those same rights from law abiding citizens?

Thatcher 3 months, 1 week ago

geoff-- I hate to admit it, but when my sons and I hunt deer, we have an unfair advantage: we scream "full stop" into the woods. Amazingly, every deer, doe or buck, freezes in place. Then my boys and I carefully explain Obamacare to them, and they sprint off into the woods. We have no deer meat this season. Cheers!

Yukonjohn 3 months, 1 week ago

I do not believe that l have ran into another American that has as much disdain for the pillar of our society as Americans than does Jim Heim. Thank God, l am not a Dem. in Moore County. Unbelievable at the very least, and well, l do not know what would be at the most.

Thatcher 3 months, 1 week ago

Yukon! Just remember that JimHeim believes that gun owners want to kill bus drivers and take little kids into their "prepper lair." He's the Democrat Chairman here in Moore County. Cheers!

dentman65 3 months, 1 week ago

Thatcher-that was a good one on obamacare.....we wear a picture of Hillary when we hunt and the bugs and ticks won't come near us......

Thatcher 3 months, 1 week ago

Thanks dentman65! Enjoy your posts here! Cheers!

JimHeim 3 months, 1 week ago

wdd - Europeans weren't liberated by a bunch of Bozos with AR-15s. It took trained, well-equipped armed forces. Maybe you can give me an example of a country that repelled an invader with the resources of say, WWII Germany, with their semi-automatic assault rifles.

JimHeim 3 months, 1 week ago

wdd - Here's the rest of your carefully limited quote:

Obama, July 2, Colorado Springs, CO: [As] president I will expand AmeriCorps to 250,000 slots [from 75,000] and make that increased service a vehicle to meet national goals, like providing health care and education, saving our planet and restoring our standing in the world, so that citizens see their effort connected to a common purpose. People of all ages, stations and skills will be asked to serve. Because when it comes to the challenges we face, the American people are not the problem – they are the answer. So we are going to send more college graduates to teach and mentor our young people. We’ll call on Americans to join an energy corps, to conduct renewable energy and environmental clean-up projects in their neighborhoods all across the country. We will enlist our veterans to find jobs and support for other vets, and to be there for our military families. And we’re going to grow our Foreign Service, open consulates that have been shuttered and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy. We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded. We need to use technology to connect people to service. We’ll expand USA Freedom Corps to create online networks where American can browse opportunities to volunteer. You’ll be able to search by category, time commitment and skill sets. You’ll be able to rate service opportunities, build service networks, and create your own service pages to track your hours and activities. This will empower more Americans to craft their own service agenda and make their own change from the bottom up.

You guys are as stupid as my horse, who jumps out of his skin at a sudden squirrel or a falling leaf. Everything is a mortal threat. You have no sense of proportion. You'll happily see twenty or more children killed so that one can be saved.

More people have been killed by guns in this country since RFK was assassinated than all of the soldiers in all of this country's wars combined. Chasing your childish fantasies is getting Americans killed by the thousands, and you don't care a bit.

JimHeim 3 months, 1 week ago

And this business of wanting to get rid of guns gets tiring. Never going to happen. But passing laws to promote gun safety is a worthwhile, achievable goal.

Traffic laws didn't eliminate the automobile, even though cars also kill thousands each year. But the safety measures adopted over the years have dramatically reduced the toll.

There's a huge difference between zero and hundreds of millions. Those not blinded by dreams of becoming a real-life Paul Kersey can see that.

geoffcutler 3 months, 1 week ago

"But passing laws to promote gun safety is a worthwhile, achievable goal." Jim Heim

Jim, again, those of us who are law abiding legal gun owners already practice and promote gun safety. Any course you take, whether it's hunter safety, or conceal carry, focuses almost 95% on gun safety. Every hunt, every shoot I've ever been a part of, no matter how experienced the gun owner, begins with a led discussion on ...gun safety.

It is the mentally unstable, and the criminal among us who do not practice gun safety. Why don't you and Obama focus your attentions on them. Otherwise, it becomes clearer by the second that either you have ulterior motives, revealed by your use of the term "gun-toting whacko," (that your real intent is to disarm all Americans,) or, you just don't know what you're talking about.

Either way, your intellectual dishonesty continues to astound.

JimHeim 3 months, 1 week ago

geoff - There's no reason for the ownership of military-style assault weapons or high-capacity magazines. No own will miss them. That still leaves 300,000,000 guns to play with. Is that not enough? Only 35% of households own a gun, but the average for those who do is eight. That's quite a hobby.

The mentally unstable among us (easily identified by their ownership of a weapon of mass murder) would be a lot less dangerous without such lethal devices at their disposal.

madstork 3 months, 1 week ago

Geoff..Spot on. Even though I have been a hunter for 50 years with expert marksmanship and military training, I am going through the conceal carry process now. It is incredibly thorough and focused on safety. In addition to refreshing myself on the safe handling of a revolver, I also had to pass a written test, a shooting test, a mental health background check and then provide the results to the Sherriff’s Office for confirmation and issue of CC permit. Sure hope the criminals can get through the same process!! Incidentally, the mix of people in my class this weekend ranged from vets to ministers to grandparents.

JimHeim 3 months, 1 week ago

Yukon - You can abide by the constitution without owning a gun. It's perfectly legal, In fact, the vast majority of Americans get through life without owning one. But the case for private ownership of devices intended solely for the mass killings of people have no place in our homes.

JimHeim 3 months, 1 week ago

fugitiveguy - In actuality wasn't it southern Democrats?

No.

packwilleat 3 months, 1 week ago

Socialism/communism has killed more innocent humans than any other form of government. Yet JimHeil strongly supports such governance. Maybe we should ban socialist in America?

dustyrhoades 3 months, 1 week ago

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Middleman522 3 months, 1 week ago

Heim you liberal hacks are unbelievable. You take things out of context, put words in others posts, just to make your whackedout points. You talk like someone drunk and your hate of everyone that is not as screwed in sideways as you are, is ugly. You really should start reading other's post 3 times so that those imaginary words you come up with don't appear. Do none of Oblaima's past "well read speeches" mean anything to you. Can you libs just forget everything he's ever said and accept the latest lie. Words have meanings and you can't remember what you said yesterday, much less us or Oblaima. You should try gingko or maybe a lobotomy might clear up your madness. By the way, if a firefighter is being fired upon, I don't think he's going to have a hose in his hand, and having a weapon in the cab, like sheriffs and cops, just might come in handy, if trained. Try to use rational thoughts when putting your spew on here please. It really reflects bad on the "party" you lead!!

packwilleat 3 months, 1 week ago

Dusty- Jim is your boy, a devout Socialist that is radicalizing into a gun grabing commie. The voice of the Moore County Democratic Party..... yikes!!

JimHeim 3 months, 1 week ago

Middleman - I'm just sure you have a point, but I couldn't pick it out of that word salad.

I can tell from the increasingly shrill, incoherent responses that I'm hitting close to home.

geoffcutler 3 months, 1 week ago

"geoff - There's no reason for the ownership of military-style assault weapons or high-capacity magazines." Jim Heim

Why is that, Jim, because you say so? Who are you to tell anyone what type of gun they can or cannot own? The truth is, it's none of yours, or any other busybody liberal's business to tell the rest of us what we can and cannot own when it comes to legal gun ownership as a Constitutional right.

And if you had one shred of common sense or intellectual honesty to you, you'd admit that massacres like Newtown don't occur because of the type of gun used. They happen because of the level of insanity rattling about in the squash of the shooter.

JimHeim 3 months, 1 week ago

geoff - As a democratic society, we get to set the rules under which we live. You can't have a plasic gun because it's illegal. You can't have Teflon coated bullets because it's illegal. You can't own a fully-automatic weapon because it's illegal. You can't have a 'sawed-off' shotgun because it's illegal.

For several years you couldn't own Child Slayer (tm) assault rifles because it was illegal. The law was so riddled with exceptions (and thanks to the Dick Act our ability to stop criminal activity with guns is crippled). But the fact remains that we passed those laws.

Now we're talking about reimposing the ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. We have every right to pass such laws. It's in the constitution.

And the slaughter in Newtown was made possible by an assault rifle and high capacity magazines. And the careless ownership of same. It's time gun owners are held accountable for their screw ups.

packwilleat 3 months, 1 week ago

As a democratic society...... majority rules. Fixed that for ya.

JimRussell44 3 months, 1 week ago

Very well put, Mr. Heim. You have addressed each of Mr. Cutlers comments in a most outstanding manner.

JD 3 months, 1 week ago

And the slaughter in Newtown was made possible by an assault rifle and high capacity magazines. And the careless ownership of same. It's time gun owners are held accountable for their screw ups.

I actually agree with this as middle ground. What is the punishment for having your guns used in a crime? If not, should the punishment serve as reenforcement for proper gun safety and storage.

If someone gets into your gun cabinet and uses your guns to kill, what punishment should happen to the one that left their guns available?

Checks and Balances

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