Worse than Thurston Howell III
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This past Monday, a video surfaced of Mitt Romney ripping on almost half the country to a group of wealthy donors.
In that video, Romney described 47 percent of Americans as freeloaders who “are dependent upon government, who believe they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to take care of them, who believe they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it.”
Shortly after, conservative columnist David Brooks wrote a critical op-ed in The New York Times, in which the headline referred to Mittens as “Thurston Howell Romney.”
Well, as a longtime fan of the TV show “Gilligan’s Island,” I feel the need to set the record straight.
The character of Thurston Howell III, played by Jim Backus, may have been rich. He may have been clueless. He may have had a hilariously exaggerated sense of entitlement. But never, not even on his worst day as a castaway, was the amiably addled Thurston Howell III as contemptuous or dismissive to any of his fellow island denizens as Mittens was toward that 47 percent of the nation he hopes to lead.
Actually, if his words are to be believed (admittedly a big “if”), he doesn’t hope to lead them. “My job is not to worry about those people,” he said. Mitt Romney proved once again the old maxim that a conservative is someone who professes to love his country while loathing and fearing half the people in it.
I confess, when I saw the first reports of the leaked “secret speech,” I didn’t think it was going to be a big deal. Then I saw the recording of the hastily called press conference at which Mr. Etch A Sketch appeared to try to contain the damage.
“Holy smoke,” I said.
Actually, the second word wasn’t “smoke,” but that’s as close as I can get here. For one thing, Mitt’s hair looked like he’d just crawled out of bed and combed it with a lawn rake. Now, this may seem like a trivial thing, but let me ask you: Have you ever seen Mitt Romney with a single hair out of place?
Then, when he began to speak, he had the blank look and the hesitant demeanor of a guy who’d just woken up in a Vegas hotel room after a nine-day bender, apprehensive of what he may have done or said while he was in blackout.
A guy who comes out to respond to a crisis looking like an outtake from “The Hangover” is not one who inspires confidence.
Romney admitted that his comments to wealthy donors may have been “inelegant.” Well, if your definition of “inelegant” means “not only pandering, but doing it dishonestly,” then I guess so.
Let’s take a look at this 47 percent of people whom Romney would give up on trying to lead because they pay no federal income tax. According to a report by the Tax Foundation, a record 52 million filers — 36 percent of the 143 million who filed a tax return — had no tax liability because their credits and deductions reduced their liability to zero.
Indeed, tax credits such as the child tax credit and earned income tax credit have become so generous that a family of four earning up to about $52,000 can expect to have their income tax liability erased entirely.
The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center notes that two-thirds of people who pay no income tax have jobs, and thus do pay payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare (payroll taxes, by the way, which were cut under President Obama).
Ironically, expanding the earned income tax credit was a Republican idea during the Reagan years. It really shows you how the party’s changed when the tax cuts for working people they once championed are now a source of complaint by the right because it means the working poor aren’t being taxed enough, even as they demand lower taxes on the wealthy.
Others who pay no federal income tax include senior citizens, students and the disabled. And let’s not forget that while they pay no federal income tax, most of these people also pay state and local income, sales and property taxes.
The lower income end of the middle class, the working poor, the elderly, those with disabilities — these are just some of the 47 percent Mitt Romney and the American right characterize as “victims” who are “feeling as if they’re entitled.”
He says “his job is not to worry about them.” Well, if Mitt keeps sticking his Gucci loafer in his mouth the way he’s been doing, pretty soon we won’t have to worry about him either.
Dusty Rhoades lives, writes and practices law in Carthage. Contact him at dustyr@nc.rr.com.
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Courseaire 7 months, 4 weeks ago
So our choice for President this year is either Mitt as Thurston or Obama as Gilligan. Where is the Professor when we need him? Another stellar column Dusty.
fugitiveguy 7 months, 4 weeks ago
Meanwhile we have a >16T debt, >8% unemployment, $4/gal gas. 4 dead Americans in Libya including our ambassador while this administration trots out one liar after another to cover the others previous lies regarding why and how this could have happened. We have a justice dept that is only interested in partisan witch hunts against citizens and LEO's doing what they are paid to do. When you have a president that has nothing to run on all there is to do is character assasination of the challenger. More smoke and mirrors from the failed experiment. Drive on!
fugitiveguy 7 months, 4 weeks ago
"We've Heard It All Before" (Extended Cut) by rnc
clarabelle 7 months, 4 weeks ago
" fugitiveguy - Meanwhile we have a >16T debt, >8% unemployment, $4/gal gas
As USUAL - mr. BLAH BLAH BLAH blames obama - and not the republican do nothing party .
and the $4 gas...... you need to query the cause of that before your big mouth goes off again with the same ol tired ####!
clarabelle 7 months, 4 weeks ago
Better yet since since fg wont post this:
"Energy Information Administration (EIA) data show that 76% of what we pay for gasoline is determined by world crude oil prices; 12% is federal and state taxes; 6% is refining; and 6% is marketing and distribution. Global markets set the price that refiners pay for crude oil.
World prices are driven by supply and demand, and unstable global politics. That means today’s prices are significantly affected by expectations and fears about tomorrow.
A major factor is Asia’s growing appetite for oil – coupled with America’s refusal to produce more of its own petroleum."
stupid republicans - always ready to blame obama........
The_AnonymusProfit 7 months, 4 weeks ago
Hmm americas refusal to produce more.....keystone pipeline anyone? Romney owned those comments. There didnt need ri be a clarification he hit the nail on the head.
Nezumi 7 months, 4 weeks ago
I wonder if Thurston had CNOOC and Commercial Bank of China in his portfolio? (Note: I'm all for international stock portfolios, including Chinese ones)
clarabelle 7 months, 4 weeks ago
" The_AnonymusProfit - Hmm americas refusal to produce more.....keystone pipeline anyone? Romney owned those comments. There didnt need ri be a clarification he hit the nail on the head"
Another druggie heard from.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46689167/ns/us_news-christian_science_monitor/t/how-much-would-keystone-pipeline-help-us-consumers/ http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-01/keystone-oil-pipeline-seen-raising-gas-prices-in-midwest-energy.html http://bottomline.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/02/27/10519685-why-the-keystone-pipeline-would-boost-pump-prices?lite
fugitiveguy 7 months, 4 weeks ago
Obama: My Plan Makes Electricity Rates Skyrocket by BattleBornPAC
fugitiveguy 7 months, 4 weeks ago
Senator Obama calls Bush "unpatriotic" for adding trillions to debt www.RightFace.us> by rightface1
JD 7 months, 4 weeks ago
Don't mind me just waiting for the thread to get locked...
fugitiveguy 7 months, 4 weeks ago
Why does the administration continue to send one spokesliar after another on the sunday shows in regards to the barberous attack on our embassy in Libya? Why doesn't anyone on the left take them to task on that? Because their base is concerned about one thing, keeping the white house for 4 more years. Its party before country and it stinks.
kzowens 7 months, 4 weeks ago
fugitiveguy, It seems that after 3 years you have complete amesia about former President G.W. Bush and the abysmal situation he left the county in. Do you really want to go backwards to that?
Noluv4thugs 7 months, 4 weeks ago
What's it matter, the people writing these columns are sheep. They regurgitate what they read and hear and do very little thinking for themselves. People stil blaming Bush, people still blaming Clinton. How about we agree that they are all puppets on the end of big money's strings. Your so called savior of hope and change is no different. And as for Jerry, he is just a venoum spewing liberal nut. He needs the drama in his life to feel important. The more you comment on this loser's columns the more you feed his endless need for attention. The Pilot lets people like Jerry write columns because he causes such a response. If we all quit responding to his nonsensical BS then he would have no audience and therefore his platform would eventually disappear. And PS you can't blame Jerry for being a Dumbocrat, he's a lawyer, par for the course....
dustyrhoades 7 months, 4 weeks ago
My, the bitterness among the wingnuts here is getting thick.
skylinefirepest 7 months, 4 weeks ago
Clara, FG hit it right on the head...I'd much rather have the economy of Bush's last year than the economy, lack of jobs, lack of honest in an administration that we now have. Amazing that Obama walked into a bad situation and made it tremendously worse...with no end in sight.
AFCHIEF 7 months, 4 weeks ago
DR little bit of name stealing for your column. Nice steal job
dustyrhoades 7 months, 4 weeks ago
Before Chief descends into incoherence (admittedly not a long descent) maybe he can explain to Mitt Romney why airplane windows don't roll down.
C'mon, that's funny, I don't care who you are.
fugitiveguy 7 months, 4 weeks ago
kz-I have a news flash for you. GWB is not the president. GWB is not running for president. GWB is not responsible for 5T in new debt (and climbing). I just don't subscribe to your false premise (back to Bush). Over 500 economists have endoresed Romney/Ryan, 5-6 are nobel prize winners. Tell me you have more to say than the above in defense of President Obama.
Noluv4thugs 7 months, 4 weeks ago
Jerry, for your info I am a Libertarian. And BTW, you're the biggest wingnut on this whole website. Your diatribes are like broken records. Saying the same thing over and over, just using different sources to try to make your same old played out point. And why am I not allowed to be bitter (if that's what you want to call it) when bitterness is pretty much all you bring to the table. Your responses are juvenile and humorous. You are one of those last word guys, so I am sure you will get one or two in. You need to get some exercise as in those demons living deep in that bloated gut of yours. And if you can't handle someone dishing out some of your own medicine then don't write anymore columns. You got keyboard muscles for days and I don't doubt your intelligence, but i do question how you choose to utilize both. And I promise you would be a lot more cautious about how you spoke if you were face to face with these people. As I am sure there are many of them that would gladly put you on your butt if you chose to try and talk like that to their face. I know, I know you would say it all to their face, so save it. More keyboard muscles. And I'll be more than happy to meet with you if you think you could have a civilized convo with someone who doesn't believe the lies you've been fed and continue to spew. Stop using mainstream medai for your news and visit some underground new sources. Lot less biased and not as much BS to wade through to get to the truth.
Thatcher 7 months, 4 weeks ago
Courseaire-- "Mitt as Thurston and Obama as Gilligan." The best post on these threads by anyone in quite awhile. And it perfectly sums up the entire column. Great job! Cheers!
dustyrhoades 7 months, 4 weeks ago
Meanwhile, bad news for Romneyshambles in NC, from the Civitas Institute (which bills itself as "North Carolina's Conservative voice")
RALEIGH – A new poll from the Civitas Institute found that the Democratic ticket of President Obama and Vice President Joe Biden is 4 percentage points ahead of the Republican slate — presidential candidate Mitt Romney and his running mate, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan.
Thatcher 7 months, 4 weeks ago
The four percent is trying to get Gilligan off the island. Cheers!
fugitiveguy 7 months, 4 weeks ago
Thanks for the heads up DR. We must fight on until the final whistle regardless of the scoreboard. Never have the stakes been higher. Never has the choice been clearer. Leave the jokes to the jesters. Donate and get those stickers on your cars.
Thatcher 7 months, 4 weeks ago
Registered voters (not likely voters), with a margin of error of 4%. Rasmussen polls likely voters: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/north_carolina/election_2012_north_carolina_president. Regardless, I pay no attention to polls until one week before the election. Still, I like your headline: GILLIGAN UP BY 4 WITH SIX WEEKS TO GO. (Apologies to MC7). Cheers!
Toda 7 months, 4 weeks ago
"4 dead Americans in Libya"
O' wise one, the plot thickens with more Bush trickery and padding the books to keep the war costs in secret until POTUS'O was sworn in ... [lHere you go][1]
[1]: http://Both CNN and MSNBC broadcast the first week after President Obama was sworn in that the new administration was ENDING the Bush/Cheney policy of keeping the war costs for both wars OFF the books. This meant a temporary misconception about "spending" that worked against President Obama, so adding these costs into the figures of the budget seemed like a huge "spending increase" instead of a simple reporting of the truth. Also in that first couple of weeks, President Obama CUT SPENDING from the Bush/Cheney final Fiscal Year (Oct. 1, 2008 through Sept. 30, 2009) budget by around $62 BILLION by simply canceling the Bush-ordered presidential helicopter fleet (also shown on MSNBC and CNN, but not given the applause deserved because both Boeing and Lockheed-Martin (who make these helicopters) had taken out one-time-aired ads to buy a negative slant to the coverage (which I reported to the White House).
AFCHIEF 7 months, 4 weeks ago
Funny how Obama can't find time to meet with our main ally in the middle east, Israel's Prime Minister but has time to go on Letterman and the View. FAILED LEADERSHIP CONTINUES
fugitiveguy 7 months, 4 weeks ago
Newsflash toda: GWB is not the president. GWB is not running for president. GWB did not run the debt to 16T after promising to halve it. Also, after learning here that you masqueraded as a conservative to address a tea party group while running as a Republican just to try to win and office you earned the absolute bottom spot on this site for credibility IMO. Believe me, considering the competition not an easy feat. BTW, your link doesn't work.
The_AnonymusProfit 7 months, 4 weeks ago
polls of regular people show obama with large margins, polls of registered voters show obama slightly ahead, polls of likley registered voters show obama and romney tied.
Polls of registered likley voters with correct sampling show romney in the lead in all but 2 swing states and head nationally by 7%.
Hmm......
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buskwon 7 months, 4 weeks ago
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fugitiveguy 7 months, 4 weeks ago
http://economistsforromney.com/
This is a list of economists that support Romney. 5-6 are Nobel Prize Winners. I think they are over 650 signatures. My search continues for the corresponding list of economists for Obama. I think this is a pretty big deal.
Thatcher 7 months, 4 weeks ago
buskwon-- I just spit a mouthful of sweet tea on my keyboard...so funny! DR will not be pleased. Hilarious! Cheers!
Thatcher 7 months, 4 weeks ago
I'll take Thurston. Cheers!
dustyrhoades 7 months, 4 weeks ago
Funny how Obama can't find time to meet with our main ally in the middle east, Israel's Prime Minister but has time to go on Letterman and the View.
It's time Benjamin Netanyahu realized we are not Israel's dog. Of course, Mittens has already rolled over for Bibi and licked his feet like a good puppy. He's said his foreign policy will be picking up the phone and asking a foreign leader "what do you want me to do?"
That's not alliance, that's becoming a sock puppet for Israel. Except the American blood shed at Netanyahu's command will be real.
fugitiveguy 7 months, 4 weeks ago
Yes, but the point was BHO had time for Letterman and the hens at The View but not to meet with Netanyahu. Care to address that. Hopefully you will have the next four years to talk about Romney.
clarabelle 7 months, 4 weeks ago
" AFCHIEF - Funny how Obama can't find time to meet with our main ally in the middle east, Israel's Prime Minister but has time to go on Letterman and the View. FAILED LEADERSHIP CONTINUES "
Exactly - and I'll even bet he took a dump a few times that day. Shame on him - he could have done what you do - just do it in your depends and save time!
clarabelle 7 months, 3 weeks ago
hey fuggie........
" Last autumn, President Barack Obama proposed the American Jobs Act, a $450 billion package of fiscal measures aimed at job creation. The AJA amounted to about 3% of GDP and was designed to take effect in 2012... Most of its measures had enjoyed bipartisan support in the past; tax cuts comprised about 56% of the total cost; and the package was paid for in Obama’s long-term deficit reduction plan.
Once again - the republicans find a way to #### this country
Thatcher 7 months, 3 weeks ago
Too funny! DR's column is eviscerated by posts by Couresaire and buskwon. Great job guys! My guess? DR will refrain from the Thurston Howell stuff, since Gilligan is not far behind. Cheers!
clarabelle 7 months, 3 weeks ago
hey fuggie -
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/08/08/economists-to-romney-campaign-thats-not-what-our-research-says/
Thatcher 7 months, 3 weeks ago
"Exactly- and I'll even bet he took a dump a few times that day." Class. Pure class.
Courseaire 7 months, 3 weeks ago
Clarabelle - You are correct, Obama did take a dump that day & out popped Biden.
clarabelle 7 months, 3 weeks ago
"Thatcher - too funny! DR's column is eviscerated by posts by Couresaire and buskwon. Great job guys!"
you...... need to look up the definition of "eviscerate".
The_AnonymusProfit 7 months, 3 weeks ago
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Thatcher 7 months, 3 weeks ago
I have clarabelle. Cheers!
clarabelle 7 months, 3 weeks ago
" Courseaire - Clarabelle - You are correct, Obama did take a dump that day & out popped Biden."
Yes - and the two farts that followed were mitt and paul.
Thatcher 7 months, 3 weeks ago
In high school.
clarabelle 7 months, 3 weeks ago
The_AnonymusProfit - did the schizo meeting let out early tonight? Did you learn anything that might help you long term?
Thatcher 7 months, 3 weeks ago
clarabelle-- Dumps and farts. The posts of a genius. Cheers!
The_AnonymusProfit 7 months, 3 weeks ago
I dont think clarabelle is a real person, i think its a pseudo
clarabelle 7 months, 3 weeks ago
" Thatcher - clarabelle-- Dumps and farts. The posts of a genius. Cheers!"
i do hope you are able to follow - i do it just so you can. hey thank me later - cheers
clarabelle 7 months, 3 weeks ago
The_AnonymusProfit - I think you are a real person - really dumb and drugged out - but real nevertheless!
Thatcher 7 months, 3 weeks ago
Trust me clarabelle, we all follow you. Cheers!
The_AnonymusProfit 7 months, 3 weeks ago
I also think its a man, probably late 40's early 50's
Thatcher 7 months, 3 weeks ago
And no one will be thanking you later.
kzowens 7 months, 3 weeks ago
The bottom line is that the crazies in the Republican/Tea Party have done more to hurt the economy of the United States than former President G.W. Bush ever did. The big difference is that President Bush didn't mean to do it, whereas it has been the intention of the Tea Party to do it. If the citizens of this great country don't vote them out of office, the recovery will continue to be slow. Even if they stay in office, the economy will still continue to recover from the Bush years, but it would just recover faster without the do-nothing Tea Party representatives in the U.S. House of Representatives.
clarabelle 7 months, 3 weeks ago
uh oh kzowens - now thatcher will reply that you aren't as funny as his lil buddies coursaire and busom and AP will provide an incoherent reply quoting some imaginary friend of his!
Thatcher 7 months, 3 weeks ago
And with that "bottom line" there is no debate. Case closed. Cheers!
fugitiveguy 7 months, 3 weeks ago
If anyone comes across the list of economists for Obama please post a link, thanks!
Thatcher 7 months, 3 weeks ago
Actually clarabelle, I was willing to say you are not as funny as anyone. Cheers!
fugitiveguy 7 months, 3 weeks ago
"I also think its a man, probably late 40's early 50's"
it is the artist formerly known as "I'm a harleyman", I thought everyone knew that
clarabelle 7 months, 3 weeks ago
damn thatcher - I'll bet you have a headache after pushing that zinger out!
cheers :)
clarabelle 7 months, 3 weeks ago
hey fuggie - did you get someone to read my link? didn't think so.........
clarabelle 7 months, 3 weeks ago
FG - not blaming obama for $4 gas anymore?
fugitiveguy 7 months, 3 weeks ago
kzowens-I'll hop the crazy train for a short hop. What exactly is it the Tea Party stands for that you find so offensive or detrimental to the country. You provide almost nothing in the way of specifics. Less government, lower taxes, more individual freedom is what my understanding is. Now I could be way off because I am not a tea party member although I feel I would be mostly at home in their company. Although the old guy in the uncle sam outfit creeps me a little bit but then again so does Santa and Clowns. Its easy to hang tags of radical and extreme on the opposition so what exactly is your beef with TP?
Thatcher 7 months, 3 weeks ago
No clarabelle, and after your prior posts, "pushing that zinger out" is what we'd expect from you. Cheers!
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AFCHIEF 7 months, 3 weeks ago
clarabelle has the intellect of dog poop. If I had to guess you have the looks of Rachel Madcow and the brains of Roseanne Barr.
skylinefirepest 7 months, 3 weeks ago
KZ...take a deep breath and repeat after me...Obama hates business big or small, remember they didn't build that...the economy is not in recovery and will not be in recovery as long as Obama and his group of thugs hold the high ground in Washington. Business is what runs the economy, not government. Government has no money of it's own...it simply takes or steals at the point of a gun what it wants ( notice I didn't say what it NEEDS but what it WANTS. ) The government is the single most wasteful entity on the face of the planet. Obama does not tell the truth...if he did he would have actively tried to reduce the spending AS HE SAID HE WOULD!! Bush is not in office and hasn't been in office for almost four years now....I wish he was back, at least he wasn't as ignorant about economics and business as Obama. Plus Bush loved the troops and was an honorable man...definitely not Obama's style. And finally, remember that the Tea Party is not running the country into oblivion...that seems to be the single goal of the Left and Obama. ( Remember, he doesn't think the USA is exceptional and wishes we weren't quite so arrogant. )
clarabelle 7 months, 3 weeks ago
"AFCHUMP - clarabelle has the intellect of dog poop. If I had to guess you have the looks of Rachel Madcow and the brains of Roseanne Barr."
now now CHUMP, you can't beat ol T at being witty..........cheers!
Courseaire 7 months, 3 weeks ago
Clarabelle - "Yes - and the two farts that followed were mitt and paul." Good retort, you do have a sense of humo - hehehe.
dustyrhoades 7 months, 3 weeks ago
Maybe if you post more funny pictures and come up with more "clever" names for Rachel Maddow, these inconvenient swing state polls might turn around for your hero:
COLORADO (PPP): Obama 51, Romney 45
FLORIDA (American Research Group): Obama 50, Romney 45
FLORIDA (Mason Dixon): Obama 48, Romney 47
FLORIDA (PPP): Obama 50, Romney 46
IOWA (American Research Group): Obama 51, Romney 44
MICHIGAN (Rasmussen): Obama 54, Romney 42
MINNESOTA (Mason Dixon): Obama 48, Romney 40, Johnson 5
MONTANA (Mason Dixon): Romney 51, Obama 42, Johnson 2
NEBRASKA (Omaha World-Herald): Romney 51, Obama 40
NEBRASKA 2nd DISTRICT (Omaha World-Herald): Romney 44, Obama 44
NEVADA (American Research Group): Obama 51, Romney 44
NORTH CAROLINA (National Research for Civitas--R): Obama 49, Romney 45
OHIO (Ohio Newspaper Group): Obama 51, Romney 46
PENNSYLVANIA (Mercyhurst University): Obama 48, Romney 40
PENNSYLVANIA (Susquehanna Research--R): Obama 47, Romney 45
WISCONSIN (We Ask America--R): Obama 53, Romney 41, Johnson 1
Courseaire 7 months, 3 weeks ago
I couldn't figure out how to post a picture, but here is a youtube video that may help swing those states back to the right: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTK5JY8oc0E
teufelhunden 7 months, 3 weeks ago
Hey I love the Howell's and I'd like to add that many of those "victims" have got their role down pat.
Don't hate me because I'm successful ;)
JD 7 months, 3 weeks ago
Well not long now...
teufelhunden 7 months, 3 weeks ago
Apparently telling the truth, a big no-no for politicians, has hurt Romney. Oh well we will have to wait and see.
Toda 7 months, 3 weeks ago
No fugitiveguy ~ Bush isn't president as everyone knows. That being the case for the 16 trillion everyone is complaining about under Obama, where's the logic in saying those figures occurred under his watch?
Bush kept the cost of two wars off budget Since the debt and deficit are being discussed so much now, I wanted to post what can make the rise in the deficit look like it happened more abruptly than it did. I don't agree with everything Obama does (especially in education), but his attempt to make the budget reflect what was really being spent has made some blame him for what looks like a big hike. Obama: No More War Spending Tricks and here's another link: link Here What year did the cost of the two wars come off the books...?
Now everyone has some idea why the increased debt under Obama ... he's carrying Bushes bagage.
Noluv4thugs 7 months, 3 weeks ago
How about both Bush and Obama were/are cleaning up after Frank's, Gingrich's and Clinton's mess from the mid 90's. True the wars are a cause of a lot of the debt. But Washington has yet to pass a budget in three years....I guess that is Nixon's, Reagan's, Bush's, Clinton's and W's fault too. I didn't throw Carter in there because we all know he was a man among boys. What are you guy's infinitley wise opinions on a possible "fair tax"? We need real solutions to fix our budget and deficit problems. Not the empty promises of two broken parties.
fugitiveguy 7 months, 3 weeks ago
"No fugitiveguy ~ Bush isn't president as everyone knows."
"as everyone knows" apparently not.
fugitiveguy 7 months, 3 weeks ago
"The fact is Bush didn't include war figures in the budget but Obama did...so now we all know why the increase as opposed to the blame game."
This has been debunked but even if it was true what is the point? Only a misguided individual would continue to devote time and energy to prove moot points of so long ago. The Obama admin has spent in excess of a trillion more than we have taken in each year of his administration. Candidate Obama pledged to cut the debt in half in 4 years. That would make it about 5.5-6T now but instead not only did he not halve it, he increased it by half again. Yet, you still cheerlead for him. Have you stopped to consider the endgame of the 16T and climbing debt particularly how it might relate to your own financial wellbeing and that of your children and future generations. Isn't that where the rubber meets the road.
dustyrhoades 7 months, 3 weeks ago
There's a reason I call George W. Bush "The President Who Must Not Be Named." The people who'd call you traitor in 2003 for criticizing Dubbya, the people who swooned over his "Mission Accomplished" appearance (complete with codpiece) are now all "Bush? Who's that? Quit living in the past!"
Except it's important to remember the Bush presidency, because the "cut taxes, cut regulations, and everyone will be driving Bentleys" philosophy that didn't work under Bush is exactly what R-Money wants to return to, but he wants even more of it. The only "new" idea they've come up with is "turn Medicare into a voucher system so the old and sick can have the fun of dealing with private insurance companies to get their health care". And it stinks.
dustyrhoades 7 months, 3 weeks ago
Apparently telling the truth, a big no-no for politicians, has hurt Romney. Oh well we will have to wait and see.
I see teufelhunden's in the pre-sulk cycle.
fugitiveguy 7 months, 3 weeks ago
I think we live in a time where there seem to be few "non partisan" studies and due to that the few that are non partisan are subject to much skepticism. We know there have been many recent convictions for voter registration fraud almost soley by left leaning groups. Of course the left is quick to point out that registration fraud is different than voter fraud. Even if you accept that, one has to wonder what is the point of voter registration fraud if not to at least attempt to affect the outcome of an election. Voter registration fraud esp when it is perpertrated by mainly one side decreases confidence in the election outcome. We all know the left would have a whole different take on the matter if Accorn was supporting T Party candidates and other conservatives. When voter ID became a prominent issue a few years ago I thought for once an issue that would garner bipartisan support. I mean, who doesn't want to insure integrity of our elections. Of course I was wrong. The left saw in it an issue to divide us in yet another way and just couldn't pass on it. The end justifies the means.
fugitiveguy 7 months, 3 weeks ago
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DR, everytime you post that lie about Bush cutting regulations you can count on me posting this brief, high quality video clearly showing you are full of crap. So here it is. There are a number of legitimate reasons to criticize former President Bush, this ain't one of them.
dustyrhoades 7 months, 3 weeks ago
So fuggy's saying it's a lie that Bush cut regulations? Wow...they really have thrown Dubbya under the bus.
Meanwhile this is relevant:
Dan Senor, one of Romney’s closest advisers, has kept a tight grip on Ryan, traveling with him everywhere and making sure he hews to the directions of the Romney “brain trust” in Boston. (A brain trust, rumor has it, that refers to Ryan as “Gilligan.”)
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81618.html#ixzz27Xsb9wAE
Bill 7 months, 3 weeks ago
Funny how Obama can't find time to meet with our main ally in the middle east, Israel's Prime Minister but has time to go on Letterman and the View.
It's time Benjamin Netanyahu realized we are not Israel's dog. Of course, Mittens has already rolled over for Bibi and licked his feet like a good puppy. He's said his foreign policy will be picking up the phone and asking a foreign leader "what do you want me to do?"
That's not alliance, that's becoming a sock puppet for Israel. Except the American blood shed at Netanyahu's command will be real.
Yes, but the point was BHO had time for Letterman and the hens at The View but not to meet with Netanyahu. Care to address that. Hopefully you will have the next four years to talk about Romney.
I am still waiting to hear a answer from anyone.
dustyrhoades 7 months, 3 weeks ago
You really think the President couldn't have made time to meet with Netanyahu? This was calculated to let Bibi know that the American President doesn't come running when the Israeli Prime Minister whistles.
Hope this clears things up for you.
dustyrhoades 7 months, 3 weeks ago
Hopefully you will have the next four years to talk about Romney.
It's possible, but that's not the way to bet right now:
COLUMBUS, Ohio — For weeks, Republicans in Ohio have been watching with worry that the state’s vital 18 electoral votes were trending away from Mitt Romney. The anxiety has been similar in Florida, where Republicans are concerned that President Obama is gaining the upper hand in the fight for the state’s 29 electoral votes. Those fears are affirmed in the findings of the latest Quinnipiac University/New York Times/CBS News polls of likely voters in both states, which show that Mr. Obama has widened his lead over Mr. Romney and is outperforming him on nearly every major campaign issue, even though about half said they were disappointed in Mr. Obama’s presidency. The polls, along with interviews with supporters and advisers in the nation’s two largest battleground states, lay bare an increasingly urgent challenge facing Mr. Romney as he prepares for his next chance to move the race in his favor, at the first debate with Mr. Obama next week. Mr. Romney’s burden is no longer to win over undecided voters, but also to woo back the voters who seem to be growing a little comfortable with the idea of a second term for Mr. Obama.
Even RCP, the most, shall we say, cautious poll tracking website, has moved Ohio into the Blue:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html
Five EV's away from a win. And leading in every swing state.
dustyrhoades 7 months, 3 weeks ago
Guess Romney's decided that maybe telling the truth might save him: he admits that Obama didn't raise taxes in his last four years.
Romney on taxes by ThinkProgress TP
"What Romney said was true. In fact, Obama is the biggest tax cutter in U.S. history, “For the past two years, a family of four earning the median income has paid less in federal income taxes than at any time since at least 1955, according to the Tax Policy Center. All federal, state and local taxes combined are a lower percentage of per-capita income than at any time since the 1960s, according to the Tax Foundation. The highest income-tax bracket is its lowest since 1992. At 35 percent, it’s well below the 50 percent mark of much of the 1980s and the 70 percent bracket of the 1970s.”
fugitiveguy 7 months, 3 weeks ago
"This was calculated to let Bibi know that the American President doesn't come running when the Israeli Prime Minister whistles."
all it shows is that this administration is run by fools, all it does it let Israel know (as if it didn't already) that it is on its own as far as defending itself, not to mention letting the enemies that surround it know as well which makes the area more volatile not less. Only a buffoon would think this is wise on the part of Obama.
JimRussell44 7 months, 3 weeks ago
Maybe we can put our relationship with Israel, our only "ally" in the middle east, in a way that is more understandable. You just moved into a new school district. The only friend you can make at your new school is hated by everyone else there. This helps you how?
Courseaire 7 months, 3 weeks ago
It means that you are willing to help someone stand up against the bullies.
Toda 7 months, 3 weeks ago
fugitiveguy 21 hours, 48 minutes ago "The fact is Bush didn't include war figures in the budget but Obama did...so now we all know why the increase as opposed to the blame game."
"Senate Republicans stopped the veterans jobs bill Wednesday by forcing a budget point of order vote. Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (R-Ill.) requested a motion to waive the budget point of order, which was raised by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.). Democrats needed 60 votes, but got only 58. Senate Republicans Block Vote
Courseaire 7 months, 3 weeks ago
Or we can say the Democrats stopped the Vets Bill because they didn't want to pass the Budget.
dustyrhoades 7 months, 3 weeks ago
Which one of you wingnuts was the one telling me I needed to watch Joe Scarborough? Check out JoeScar's reaction to Romney's latest attempt to "wow" the crowds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CSVSwSaypg
JimRussell44 7 months, 3 weeks ago
Courseaire, in my high school friend analogy, you immediately assumed that the rest of the entire student body were "bullies". An unlikely scenario. The other possibility, the "friend" I made was the bully. A more reasonable scenario, based on math principles. And it would be completly logical for "my friend" to want to be my friend since no one else in the school had stepped forward. His desire to immediately be my friend was to prevent me from seeing who might really be the bully. Give it a little thought.
fugitiveguy 7 months, 3 weeks ago
I ain't buying it TODA, there are links that call what you say false. Thats the way it is these days, you got your links, we got ours. I actually would be interested in the truth, problem is everyone is telling "their" version of the truth.