Clinton Deserved Jeers

dustyrhoades 8 months ago

I don’t get it.

You see, you can do all that crap that Clinton did (all true, lefties won't even attempt to spin) and still be the rock star for the Democrats. Its crazy but its the times we live in. Its so laughable that a few posters this weekend have lamented that the current Republican party doesn't resemble the party old (as if the same crap wasn't being said back then). If any Republican had done half the the stuff Clinton had done he/she wouldn't be allowed to pick up the trash at the RNC but if you are a Democrat you give the keynote. The standards are much, much lower if they exist at all.

pgericson 8 months ago

FYI: The vote to impeach fell seventeen votes short of the required amount, in part because ten Republican Senators voted against impeachment. Not exactly a close call along party lines.

Yukonjohn 8 months ago

And Bill Clinton, IMHO, will go down in history as one of the best President's in US history. He made a HORRIBLE mistake in lying. He should have said, "Heck yeah, I am getting sex from that woman, Ms. Lewinsky, all the time" His choice in women is not what l would do, but that is between him and Hillary. He should have told the truth and went on about his business. And, l said in another thread, if the most powerful man in the world cannot get oral sex in his office, something is very amiss!! He just should have "fessed up". To my thinking, morals are not an issue for a President. We need a leader that is smart, decisive, forward thinking and respected worldwide. He filled all those requirements for me.

fugitiveguy 8 months ago

"We need a leader that is smart, decisive, forward thinking and respected worldwide."

I fail to see how a leader can be respected worldwide when he cheats on his wife in the oval office and then lies under oath.

native 8 months ago

I would like to believe that most men are faithful to their wives, but When they are not I am not surprised, but this has never been a qualification of a person running for any Political office. It seems to be that even if they are when running, once they achieve the office, all bets are off as far as money or flings with the opposite sex. And it is not just men. Power corrupts. Again I say Term Limits...

geoffcutler 8 months ago

Morals absolutely are a necessity for our leaders and are the reason we have so few today. Am reading David McCulloch's biography of John Adams right now (alongside The Amateur) and this business of morality in leadership was so clear to Adams. Only through morality could leaders of a free nation lead freely. Otherwise, I agree with you about Bubba. He should have just said "Yeah, so what. Can I get back to my work now?" Instead, because of a lack of honor and personal integrity, he led the nation into the sewer for most of his presidency.

dustyrhoades 8 months ago

If Clinton's so terrible, why does Mittens keep using him in ads?

clarabelle 8 months ago

" geoffcutler - Morals absolutely are a necessity for our leaders and are the reason we have so few today. "

Pure BS - if the unemployment rate was 5-6% - no one except the brain dead republicans would care what he did in his private time.

native 8 months ago

I wish it were so, but I live in the real world.

geoffcutler 8 months ago

Yes, Belle, we already know you don't understand the philosophy regarding this nation's founding. Funny how only "the brain dead republicans" will get us back to that 5-6% unemployment. Can you comment without calling someone or group sophomoric names? Probably not....

clarabelle 8 months ago

" Can you comment without calling someone or group sophomoric names?"

actually I can geoffie - but why should I when you right wingers refer to liberal morons/idiots/losers.......... take your pick. If ya dish it out - be ready to take it!

btw - I have never read anything by you condemning your right wing buddies doing the very same thing. so until then ...............dont bother to lecture me

dustyrhoades 8 months ago

I have never read anything by you condemning your right wing buddies doing the very same thing. so until then ...............dont bother to lecture me

Save your breath. Preacher Geoff's gonna preach. But only to one side. It's his thing.

clarabelle 8 months ago

" geoffcutler - Yup, and in this case, that sucker is you."

Oh geoffie........ Can you comment without calling someone or group sophomoric names?

dustyrhoades 8 months ago

Oh geoffie........ Can you comment without calling someone or group sophomoric names?

Like "Obamanation", like he did a few days ago? Of course THAT's okay, because IOKIYAR!

justpassingby2 8 months ago

Dusty just keeps embarrassing himself. Its incredible how totally blind he is to the reality that he is the laughingstock of these boards! I wonder if he even reads clarabelle's posts. Her backing you has to at least give you a clue that maybe, just maybe you are not doing well here! Too funny!

geoffcutler 8 months ago

Belle and Dusty, what a pair! "Geoffie," that make you feel better, Belle? It may be that some refer to you as a loser/idiot or moron. But unless I'm mistaken, I have not. That's yours and Dusty's realm.

The_AnonymusProfit 8 months ago

History repeats itself...again.. and again...

dustyrhoades 8 months ago

Geoff apparently doesn't read any posts by justpassingby2.

dustyrhoades 8 months ago

Click on justpassingby's name. Go to his profile page. Click comments and look at the first page. Out of ten comments, nine are personal attacks and name calling of other posters.

Admonitions from Preacher Geoff: 0.

This is why no one takes your moralizing seriously, Preacher. It's totally one sided.

geoffcutler 8 months ago

Um...wasn't aware JPB was in this conversation. You are the problem, Dusty. Always have been, and apparently, always will be. Only now, it appears you and Belle are like tag team Wrestlers. You must be so proud. Like I said...too easy.

The_AnonymusProfit 8 months ago

I found clarabelle on youtube, it took alot of hard work and effort, but I finally suceeded.

The Dumbest video ever? by omarsuarez73

Thatcher 8 months ago

DR-- "Preacher Geoff." JD-- "Granny Thatcher." Nice name calling from the confident ones. I look at it this way: one who gets repeatedly slapped upside the head by Pilot editors may find the same thing happens to him on election day by the voters. The sad thing is, his relevance remains the same, while the remaining respect merely dwindles. Cheers!

geoffcutler 8 months ago

Respect??? T- what am I going to do with you?

dustyrhoades 8 months ago

AP, considering how badly you embarrassed yourself yesterday by posting a parody video as if it was real, I'd think you'd want to lay off the videos for a while. But I guess you're beyond embarrassment.

dustyrhoades 8 months ago

You are the problem, Dusty. Always have been, and apparently, always will be.

Only in your hypocritical mind, Preacher.

And do i read your post correctly? You don't even realize JPB's been posting in the thread?

Wow. That kind of selective blindness explains a lot.

Thatcher 8 months ago

Geoff-- One minus one= zero. That's what I meant. Cheers!

dustyrhoades 8 months ago

Frankly the only things more boring that jpb's rabid and deranged attacks are Geoff Cutler's insufferable and hypocritical priggishness and Thatcher's tedious finger shaking. G'night all. Enjoy the echo chamber while it lasts.

geoffcutler 8 months ago

Gotcha, T.

Dusty, JPB wasn't part of our discussion, if that's what you want to call it. And as I've said before, I'm not responsible for what others say on here. Just responsible for what I say. And I try not to be rude, like you. But, please...keep calling me whatever you want. You prove my points for me. You're kind of like Moon that way. Too easy.

Thatcher 8 months ago

DR-- That's enough. My "tedious finger shaking" has been used most often in your direction...trying to keep you from being banned here, and asking you to reconsider your vile posts. You ignore what I say, you ignore what the Pilot editors say. And you get banned. Then the editors, in their grace, allow you to return...and what do you do? Post the "I'm Back" thing (complete with video), then fly around every thread, like a nymphomaniac hornet, hurling insults at anyone and everyone. And even when the editors remove your post, you continue with the insults. You insult the Pilot editors, and everyone else here who was willing to give you a second chance. Your return has been disgraceful.

geoffcutler 8 months ago

Oh...wait, Dusty, don't go! This has been such an instructional day! "hypocritical prig?" You're reaching new heights... making such progress. Excellent!

justpassingby2 8 months ago

Most of the right don't bother with my posts because they are smarter than you!!!!!

fugitiveguy 8 months ago

Geoff, I applaud you and Thatcher and a few others for presenting the conservative viewpoint in such a manner that doesn't bring shame upon the group. There was a time that I would regularly get my comments deleted. As a matter of fact I got myself deleted. It would appear that all the left has these days is childish insults. I guess when your candidate has no record worth defending you do what you can do. Again, thanks for taking the high road. I started to say it can't be easy but then again it sure presents a stark difference if anyone other than the posters are following this forum.

AFCHIEF 8 months ago

Still see that dustys pathetic story is still not online for comments

Thatcher 8 months ago

Thanks, fugitiveguy. That means alot. I have no problem being the Ned Flanders poster here, but I've had it with DR's name-calling and vile posts. Cheers!

Yukonjohn 8 months ago

Let me join in too in saying how much l appreciate the banter and discussions that we have on here. While l doubt any of us will change each other's mind, it is constructive to discuss ideas. I wish there were not the vileness that is shown on here sometimes. I hope each of you have had a pleasant weekend, and are ready for the workweek. Best Wishes from the still unfrozen north.

Hey Thatcher, dang man, we could still be fishing here...it is 64 this afternoon here, but we are waiting for the "other shoe" to drop....we will have snow on the ground in under 2 weeks for sure!! Take care, my friend!!

Thatcher 8 months ago

Yukon! Dang, 64 degrees! Me and my boys could have fished you dry! Can't wait to get up there. I'd love for you to meet my sons. And for them to meet you. That would be the best day! Cheers!!

fugitiveguy 8 months ago

Speaking of Ned Flanders, once when I had a mustache a drunk guy told me I looked like Ned Flanders. I had never heard of Ned Flanders. I went home and googled it and I must say the similarity was undeniable. I shaved off that mustache and have never grown it back. It was funny though.

fugitiveguy 8 months ago

John, where in Alaska do you call home? Also, what is the unemployment rate in Alaska?

Thatcher 8 months ago

fugitiveguy-- Too funny! I look nothing like Ned, but apparently I post like him. I've made lots of friends here, like you and Yukon. So I must be doing something right! Cheers!

Yukonjohn 8 months ago

Fugitiveguy, I live outside of Fairbanks. Our unemployment rate was 7.7 in July. That is about as good as it gets. Heck, up there, that IS full employment. Many here work seasonally, myself included. I work for the feds but only 8-10 months a year. It is perfect for me, just a little too much work, but l wont complain. There are jobs here. It is not a good time to come here seeking one, but next spring if it all holds together, there will be jobs. One of the guys that work for me left this job last week, it took him about a week of looking to find a job to go to when he left where we work. He is a truck driver and his new seasonal job is at a gold mine making 25 an hour and working 84 hours a week....pretty good overtime wages, but not as much as he makes on his summer job.

Yukonjohn 8 months ago

Thatcher, you know l will be excited to meet you and your boys. I will most likely come back down there sometime this winter, albeit for just a short visit. I want to check out a couple of things regarding someplace to land seasonally in retirement. I will let you know, and l really do look forward to meeting you.

MikeNC 8 months ago

When Bill Clinton addressed the DNC and shook that bony finger at America it brings back memories of a few years ago. If President Clinton was a Republican he would have shook that finger and laid out an excoriating package of just why President Obama should be defeated and why Mitt Romney should be elected President;and it would have been compelling. Everything he said could have been true, factual and not twisted like it HAD to be that night at the DNC. The second video displays Clinton in a more favorable aspect as far as being able to tell the truth. Mike

Bill Clinton--"I did not have sexual relations with that woman" by jw00534

Bill Clinton: President Obama is selling the "biggest fairy tale I've ever seen" by Jimmy Busch

dustyrhoades 8 months ago

Still see that dustys pathetic story is still not online for comments

You'll get your weekly dose of rage, Chief. This happens from time to time. Be patient.

BTW, I thought it was pretty funny a couple of weeks ago when Bob Levy had a column online and three of the first five comments were about me. Yours was first, and didn't even address Levy's column at all. You just whined about how you couldn't trash me online. 2d, of course, was justpassinggas, who seems to rarely contribute anything here, and exists only to attack others.

You guys are just obsessed.

SH59 8 months ago

The truth is that everything Clinton said at the convention was TRUE and verified by fact check. It's easy to try to discredit him because of his past but it doesn't change the truth of his facts.

AFCHIEF 8 months ago

While we are discussing Clinton lets not forget The Whitewater scandal and how Clinton's so called friends ended up dead somehow.

Noluv4thugs 8 months ago

The guy was a liar that liked to play "wag the dog" and even though impeached he was allowed to serve out the rest of his term. At least that 'Dick" in the 70's left office. Clinton is not an American hero, he is a disgrace. And all those that love him unconditionally are fools. Same goes for people that love or loved the Bush and Obama regimes without conditions. You peolpe that vote strictly on party lines are partially why this is a f**ked up country right now. You don't care about issues, just red or blue..

I'm sure you all know this but here is the info...

http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/impeachments/clinton.htm

Yukonjohn 8 months ago

Dang man, they make meds for your problem. I would seek some help.

Noluv4thugs 8 months ago

They make meds to help me deal with idiots and bumbling dumba** politicians??? Just let me know where to get them. What's wrong Yukon John the truth too strong? All the facts that this man was a liar are documented. Yet you still love him. I bet O.J. is innocent and M.J. never diddled little boys either.

Yukonjohn 8 months ago

I can feel your anger all the way up here in Fairbanks, Alaska!! I do not like most politicians either, but we have a way of changing that, its the ballot box. Bill Clinton kept our country out of major war, the economy boomed, but he did have issues with lying. He should have just told the truth. As far as OJ, I watched the whole trial, and had l been on the jury, he would have walked just like he did. I think he is as guilty as they come, but he would have walked. LAPD made a shamble of that case, then combined with the ineptness of the prosecution team, the correct verdict was reached IMHO. Now, time to go to work.

packwilleat 8 months ago

Yukon: If voting ever changed anything, they'd make it illegal.

Noluv4thugs 8 months ago

HAHAHAHAHAHA @packwilleat nailed it!!! Congrats my friend on paying attention. And Yukon I was just using OJ and MJ as examples. Neither were found guilty of anyhting. But both paid a ton of money to make sure that was the outcome. And I agree the OJ case was totally bumbled. My point being is that people in power or with large bank accounts rarely pay for their crimes and Clinton is one of many. The economy boomed in part of the start of bad mortgages being given out through Fannie and Freddie, which was Bill Clinton and Repub House approved.

justpassingby2 8 months ago

I only 'attack' the hypocrites on the left who refuse to discuss why the democratic party has given a free pass to obama on issues like war, tax breaks for the rich, education, jobs and deficit spending to name a few. You know dusty, the things you blamed on bush and the wingnuts that obama and the other 2 stooges have continued on the same or similar paths. The Pilot seems to have found their niche and enjoys being the laughingstocks of the left which I, as a democrat, find appalling. When the pilot posts and I guess prints columns that the reader thinks are meant to be funny but eventually find out the writer was serious, well I guess that is how you become laughingstocks.

Courseaire 8 months ago

Also, the economy boom during Clinton's term was in part due to Gore's Dotcom explosion that Clinton got credit for, yet the bubble burst at the end of his term & W took the blame.

Toda 8 months ago

Norman Zanetti what has Clinton's indiscretions have anything to do with the mess left for Obama to clean up?

If Mr. Zanetti, you missed these memorable moments of your hero George W, here are some clips to remind everyone of what an ignoramus he ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCRyO6... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D4uAW...

packwilleat 8 months ago

Toda: I'm willing to bet you are the one that made that lame video. Your typing format makes you look like an Ignoramus.

Toda 8 months ago

packwilleat ~ Wow there packy -nut, is that the best your limited mind can come up with at the moment? Lame brain ~ try YouTube Videos. Not one has my name attached! Wussy!

packwilleat 8 months ago

Well, being that I got you to respond without forming paragraphs, my limited mind must be on to something. I know your tab key must be getting lonely.

pinewoodnc 8 months ago

It is amazing to me how buddy-buddy Clinton is with Obama now. Things were completely different in 2008. Clinton was at the DNC only to spend time showing off and being his usual obnoxious and self-serving self. Clinton is still upset that he couldn't run for a third time. He is one of the most conceited individuals I have seen in my life. He talks about how wonderful a President he was and all that he did. He did what he did only because the Repubs kept him in line. Everytime I see him, all I can picture is him sitting in front of the camera saying "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." Yeah, right.

Noluv4thugs 8 months ago

@ packwilleat: Don't mind Toda, he's known to have an "emotional breakdown' now and again.

packwilleat 8 months ago

Bless his heart. @noluv4thugs: I take it that you and I might be the only Libertarians hanging around this joint? Well and Yukon.

geoffcutler 8 months ago

Hang on! I scored a bulls eye on that internet political questionnaire to help identify one's political leanings. Libertarian. Makes partial sense since I've never registered with the Republicans.

Thatcher 8 months ago

I'm a conservative, with a few libertarian leanings. But on economics, conservatives and libertarians essentially agree. And right now, that's all that matters. Cheers!

Thatcher 8 months ago

Noluv4thugs (1 hour, 14 min. ago)-- There are kinder ways to make your point. You make great posts here. Please don't go into the gutter like our liberal friends. We need you. Cheers!

packwilleat 8 months ago

More people probably lean Libertarian more than they would think. The platform of being socially liberal and fiscally conservative is more along the lines of what our forefathers had envisioned. Unfortunately, our current economy is a house of cards. We can all thank Alexander Hamilton for getting that wheel rolling. If anyone really wants to see something disturbing, google "derivatives bubble".

geoffcutler 8 months ago

On A.H., agreed. Always felt the same.

Thatcher 8 months ago

packwilleat-- Wow! I haven't had a chance to discuss Hamilton in 20 years. Fantastic post! Cheers!

packwilleat 8 months ago

"A national debt, if it is not excessive, will be to us a national blessing."

~ Alexander Hamilton

I wonder how he would view our debt today? And it's "blessing"

JimRussell44 8 months ago

Mr.Cutler, there is a libertarian on the ballot for president. Will you be voting for him?

geoffcutler 8 months ago

No. He can't win, so it's a throw-away vote, or, a vote for Obama. Been through that.

Courseaire 8 months ago

Now, if Howard Stern were to run on the Libertarian ticket again, I may give it some serious consideration.

Toda 8 months ago

packwilleat => Okay - - - TAB!

Toda 8 months ago

Noluv4thugs => Dr. Who? Know nothing wussies who hid behind anonymity while rambling about nothing...while giving advice. Ignorance perhaps?

JimRussell44 8 months ago

Mr. Cutler, from your response I can conclude that you share the same views as a candidate who has no chance of winning, is that correct? This means that your views are not representative of how most citizens think. That puts you out of mainstream America. It also tells me that you are not a man of your convictions. You are afraid to stand up for that which you believe. You are wishy-washy. Your constant "preaching" to the rest of us is all a big lie. Of course, when you made the statement: "Anybody But Obama", we already knew that.

JimRussell44 8 months ago

Courseaire, sometimes you say things that make me laugh. Sometimes (like the comment above) you say things that make me want to vomit.

geoffcutler 8 months ago

It's called being "realistic" JER, and making your vote matter. And please, you are not representative of mainstream America, so you can save the personal attacks and condescending ridicule.

Courseaire 8 months ago

Baba Booey & Bazinga!

JimRussell44 8 months ago

I don't know who the hell you think I am Cutler, but I am not afraid to vote for the person who I believe will do the best job. Unlike you, I don't say one thing and do another. The reason that third party candidates never fair well is because of gutless wonders like yourself who would rather be "realistic" than honest with themselves. Do you have any idea where our country might be today if voters voted what they believe rather than what was "realistic"? You are settling for something rather than expressing your desire for something better. If you want to consider my comments an "attack" or look at them as "condescending", that is your problem. I'm going to continue to say what I think is the truth, regardless of whether you think it is realistic or not.

JimRussell44 8 months ago

Courseaire, I think the "bazinga" comes from Sheldon on the "Big Bang Theory", which I think is hilarious. The other comes from the sewer where Howard Stern lives. Be careful not to get any on you.

Courseaire 8 months ago

Why JR, I'd think you would admire Howard S as one with the same qualities as you - he doesn't say one thing and do another, he continues to say what he thinks is the truth, regardless of whether someone thinks it is realistic or not

geoffcutler 8 months ago

Bravo, JER! Stand up for your rights! That's the ticket!

skylinefirepest 8 months ago

JimRussell..."not afraid to vote for the one that will do the best job"???? And you intend to vote for Obama?? You're kidding, right? You've seen what he has done to this country in not even four years and you're going to vote for him AGAIN??? Seriously??? Where is your sense of patriotism and love of country over your incessant bowing to the party??

Thatcher 8 months ago

So that we can give our resident hornet poster room to grow, here is Obama, in his own words, saying why he believes in redistribution of wealth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge3aGJ.... Not my buzzwords. Obama's own words...released today. Cheers!

nothingspecial 8 months ago

The proud depiction of how Julie will have a better chance because of her government from cradle to grave is also relevant here, Thatcher. And Mitt is thought to have screwed up by pointing out a strategy of having the government do more and more for its citizens. Despite the unsustainable cost, while ignoring fundamental failures of their utopian dreams that are steadily weakening the fabric of our culture and of law and order.

http://www.barackobama.com/life-of-julia/

Thatcher 8 months ago

Correct, nothingspecial. Great to see you here, and post more often! We need you! Cheers!

JimRussell44 8 months ago

skylinefirepest, yes, not only will I vote for President Obama for another four year term, I already have via the absentee ballot process since I will not be in North Carolina in November. But please, keep on trying to convince yourself that R Money is the best guy for the job.

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