Wise Words From Reagan

The_AnonymusProfit 8 months, 2 weeks ago

How long it has been since our government feared anything.

JimRussell44 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Every four years they fear not being elected.

geoffcutler 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Leftists don't recognize tyranny until the very moment, in the dead of night, it comes calling for them. They're a little thick that way.

JimRussell44 8 months, 2 weeks ago

And righty runs around screaming the sky is falling, afraid of his own shadow. They're a little chicken that way.

fugitiveguy 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Seems like there was a little fear at the convention yesterday, they decided to "get religion" for some reason. Did I hear some convention goers booing God? Sounded like over half of them were voting against God. Thats not going to play well in mainstream America.

teufelhunden 8 months, 2 weeks ago

That was the Arabs and they don't like mentioning Israel either.

Courseaire 8 months, 2 weeks ago

There is one thing I fear and it was demonstrated at the DNC last night. I watched & listened to the vote for the amendment to put Jerusalem as Capital of Israel back into the DNC platform. First, the place was empty, they took the vote 3 times and all 3 times the "NOs" out voted the "AYEs", yet the chair announced that the motion passed with 2/3rds majority. How embarrassing, but this kind of reminds me of Obama's last 3+ years. I feel sorry for the Democrats and the Delegates, where even they will not be heard by their supposed leaders. I fear that we'll get 4 more years of the same.

geoffcutler 8 months, 2 weeks ago

"Above these (the people) an immense tutelary power is elevated, which alone takes charge of assuring their enjoyments and watching over their fate. It is absolute, detailed, regular, far-seeing, and mild. It would resemble paternal power if, like that, it had for its object to prepare men for manhood; but on the contrary, it seeks only to keep them fixed irrevocably in childhood; it likes citizens to enjoy themselves provided that they think only of enjoying themselves. It willingly works for their happiness; but it wants to be the unique agent and sole arbiter of that; it provides for the security, foresees and secures their needs, facilitates their pleasures, conducts their principal affairs, directs their industry, regulates their estates, divides their inheritances; can it not take away from them entirely the trouble of thinking and the pain of living?" Alexis de Tocqueville- Democracy in America

Writing about what tyranny might look like in a democracy, and how a free people might not even recognize its presence because the despot is so seemingly benevolent thus benign. Sound oddly familiar? Nah!

MikeNC 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Thanks for your letter Matthew and the good memories for Americans it brings. Your fear is wasted time Courseaire. Romney wins BIG in November.......Mike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISvoPQ5jtzk

geoffcutler 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Powerful video there, Mike. Thanks! Now, anyone surprised?

clarabelle 8 months, 2 weeks ago

" geoffcutler - Leftists don't recognize tyranny until the very moment, in the dead of night, it comes calling for them. They're a little thick that way. "

and righties imagine the bogeyman around every corner...... they are kinda dumb and backward like that!

geoffcutler 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Yeah, belle, so I heard, from JER, er...I mean, Jim. What are you, an echo?

Thatcher 8 months, 2 weeks ago

JimRussell44-- Geoff believes you are JER. You have always been straight up with me here, and polite, as was JER. Is geoff correct? Please let me know. Cheers!

LSM 8 months, 2 weeks ago

@geoffcutler

Another interesting fact about leftist and their leaders is that there is normally a “second revolution”, where the original followers are overthrown, sometimes even eliminated. Examples are The Khmer Rouge, the French Revolution morphing into the Reign of Terror, the Bolshevik Revolution (good-by Lenin and hello Stalin), and even with the Third Reich where Ernst Rohm was eliminated.

geoffcutler 8 months, 2 weeks ago

I've been thinking about the Marxist, Alexandr Solzhenitsyn. He must have been aware that something was rotten in Denmark, hence his writing of his concerns about Stalin in letters for which he was later jailed and tortured. Our leftists appear oblivious to history, and therefore can't fathom any such happening to them. Thus, tyranny, should it ever occur here, and one needs to begin to question it, since our president seems happy to bypass the Constitution and Congress at a moment's notice, will catch these halfwits in the dark of night, just as I said above.

Nezumi 8 months, 2 weeks ago

LSM - some nitpiks - the Khmer Rouge was deposed by the Vietnamese, and hello Stalin was an extended period of struggle with Zinoviev, Kamenev, Bukharin, and Trotsky - if it was a revolution, it was a slow one. Molotov said Stalin was "a child" compared with Lenin - so IMO there was continuity in the ruthlessness of Bolshevik policy.

Nezumi 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Geoff, I lean democratic and take issue with your statement about not knowing Marxist history.

geoffcutler 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Okay, glad to hear it.

justpassingby2 8 months, 2 weeks ago

JER!!!!!!! That's exactly who he is. He told me the same lies as JimR as he did under Jer. I knew it was the same whack job but couldn't remember the name JER!

geoffcutler 8 months, 2 weeks ago

For those who aren't as up to speed as Nezumi, They might consider reading from the books of A.S. as a primer, and then perhaps to Mona Charon's "Useful Idiots." Don't blame her for the Title, it was bestowed on us by either Stalin or Khrushchev, can't remember which without hauling the book down.

Nezumi 8 months, 2 weeks ago

I also strongly recommend any of Richard Pipes' books. I am about to start on a one volume history of the rise and fall of Communism by Archie Brown.

moonchild7 8 months, 2 weeks ago

This is a bunch of "Marxist-Communists" at work, Geoff, here in America (and they're NOT DEMOCRATS); From David Corn at MOTHER JONES (8/28/12): "A minor revolt broke out on the floor of the Republican Party's Presidential Convention Tuesday afternoon and evening. Ron Paul delegates from several states erupted into protest over a controversial change to the party's rules to block future insurgencies mounted by outside candidates like their hero. Paul supporters also freaked out over the conventions rufusal to recognize about teo dozen Paul delegates and for refusing to treat Paul like a serious candidate for the nomination. During the roll call of the states, the Paulites were irate, screaming at the podium, as convention secretary Kim Reynolds declined to read out the delegate count for any candidate othe than Romney. One Nevada delegate and Paul supporter, Mark Carducci, thrust two middle fingers into the air toward RNC chairman Reince Preibus and House Speaker John Boehner, screaming "F U, Tyrants". Sorry guys........that's what TYRANNY actually is and the Republicans are keeping those kind of tactics "Ready to Go" on the Poor, Working Poor and Middle Class if they are elected. You LIE, Geoff. Where's your outrage?

geoffcutler 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Vladimir Posner introduces the latest edition of The Communist Manifesto. His thesis is that true Communism was never achieved in the Soviet Union because it was completely orchestrated by a central planning government. In other words, state run Socialism. While an ex-Marxist, one almost feels by reading the intro Posner's seeming yearnings for that day when pure Marxism is gotten right. Interesting stuff, and food for our thought.

geoffcutler 8 months, 2 weeks ago

I'm sorry, Moon, were you saying something?

Thatcher 8 months, 2 weeks ago

MC7-- I have seen many links/cites here...can't remember anyone ever citing Mother Jones. Thanks for sharing. Cheers!

geoffcutler 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Excuse me again, T, but JER was not polite. Every time he returned from his self-imposed exile, which was about once a month, he'd start out all sweet creamery butter and then devolve into what you're now witnessing from Mr. Russell. Coincidence? Perhaps. See you haven't an answer to your question yet.

Thatcher 8 months, 2 weeks ago

From David Corn at MOTHER JONES (8/28/12): "A minor revolt broke out today when Mitt Romney mistreated Billy Jack, and then tried to silence the Freedom School once and for all. The revolt ended when Romney, silently and without warning, held his fist in the air." I love stories like this! Cheers!

Thatcher 8 months, 2 weeks ago

geoff-- You are correct. JER was not polite to everyone, but as I said above he was polite to me before he left...and it seemed like he was trying to be more polite to other conservatives, although certain battle-lines had already been drawn with a few. I will await an answer from JimRussell44. You still owe me a beer! Cheers!

LSM 8 months, 2 weeks ago

@Nezumi: Just a note about the Khmer Rouge as I remember the news reports, being interested in the affair back in college, how the NVA had to invade Cambodia to control their own creation. Some might remember the Mauaquez Incident, and the concept of the Domino Effect. One thing is for sure, Leftist/Communist are never quite satisfied. World domination I suppose. http://www.cambodiatribunal.org/history/khmer-rouge-history#TheRiseoftheKhmerRouge

Nezumi 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Geoff, Posner may have a point. Consider Marx' predictions about how Communism would evolve - 1917 Russia did not fit many of the requirements: it was agrarian, backward, poorly industrialized despite the war, and unions had not taken root in the factories. So, the beginning was wrong, and all of the rights the workers, soldiers, and peasants were supposed to have were quickly abrogated by the Bolsheviks - made permanent by the expulsion of the SR's and Mensheviks who might have had a more classical Marxist plan in mind. Thus, IMO the "recipe" was not followed from the outset. Communism is a thoroughly debunked ideology, but it remains an interesting study.

Thatcher 8 months, 2 weeks ago

LSM and Nezumi-- Love the discussion about this topic! Well done, and very civil and informative! Keep it up. Cheers!

Nezumi 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Always ready to help the insomniacs, Thatcher :)

Thatcher 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Nah, no insomniac here, Nezumi! I just love a fair treatment of history, and you do it very well. Thanks for that! Cheers!

Nezumi 8 months, 2 weeks ago

LSM - I'll look that up the Mauaquez Incident. I find that entire period fascinating since the Soviets and Chinese, were fighting each other through their proxies, and ultimately resulted in the two big invasions - Vietnam into Cambodia, and China into Vietnam in 1979 - and they were directly related. It amazes me that in the latter case China lost some 30k in KIA's within a 3 week period - and so few Chinese today are aware of how badly that brief war went for them.

moonchild7 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Social Security and Medicare are SOCIALIST programs Geoff. Have you told any of your GOVERNMENT Represenatives that you're "Opting Out?" I'm not sure how close you are to "retirement" but maybe you should begin now "Petitioning" your government for your "pre-mature" exit from those programs so you can continue to cut down trees without having to worry about the SOCIALIST'S in AMERICA helping you out as you age. Funny how the ACTUAL TRUTH makes you guys mumble and jumble around, over and over.

AFCHIEF 8 months, 2 weeks ago

MC7 so glad to see you back from watching the Tea Party beheading people.

geoffcutler 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Oh, and by the way, great letter, Mr. Lashley. Much needed reminders for those willing to listen.

Thatcher 8 months, 2 weeks ago

geoff-- I have still not heard from JimRussell44. Who knows...he may respond, or maybe not. You may have been more correct than I realized. We'll see. Cheers!

moonchild7 8 months, 2 weeks ago

President Obama said it much better in Charlotte tonite Mr. Lashley: "As Americans, we believe we are endowed by our Creator with cetain inalienable rights-rights that no man or government can take away. We insist on personal responsibility and we celebrate individual initiative. We're not entitled to success, we have to earn it. We honor the strivers, the dreamers, the risk takers who have always been the driving force behind our free enterprise system-the greatest engine of growth and prosperity the world has ever known. But we also believe in something called citizenship, a word at the very heart of our founding, at the very essense of our democracy. The idea that this country works when we accept certain obligations to one another, and to future generations." Geoff, in case you haven't heard, the RUSSIAN REVOLUTION is over and the COLD WAR is over. Oh, that's right, Mitt Romney doesn't seem to understand that either. Grow up.

JimRussell44 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Sorry to disappoint guys. I will admit JER was someone who I admired and agreed with most of the time. Maybe I've picked up on some of his ideas. I know one thing we share in common. I will give back what I get. When mud is thrown, I'll throw it back. You want to have an adult discussion on the issues, I would much rather do that. Stupid cartoons on either side are not having a responsible conversation and they do not reflect "the truth". When "he's a liar" is your only response, you have got a problem because your guy is also telling lies. News Flash: ALL POLITICIANS TELL LIES, they just think of it as potential truths.

I think I can see why JER has quit posting. I get very frustrated with a lack of willingness on the part of most here to actually try to find any common ground in discussing possible solutions to our problems. I honestly don't think any of us has a snowballs chance in hell of convincing the other side of anything. We just hash and re-hash the same BS day after day. My only hope is that maybe I can get someone to at least consider a point I'm trying to make. When I get fed up enough, I'm sure all stop posting as well.

geoffcutler 8 months, 2 weeks ago

It may be that we will never convince the other side of anything, but that doesn't mean we give up, nor does it mean all politicians are liars. Many are, some aren't. President Reagan was not a liar. I don't think FDR was a liar, or Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, nor are Mitt Romney, Ron Paul or Paul Ryan liars. They are (were) politicians who sometimes have to compromise to get things done. Others were (are) as you say, liars. Don't give up, JIm. The fight is what makes the country work, though your successes may be few.

MikeNC 8 months, 2 weeks ago

Well Moonchild: How many of you Liberals here, would of said Aye or Nay to the God less platform? The R. Paul revolt you refer to, was nothing compared to Americans hearing with their own ears, the undeniable voices from the Democratic Delegates, SCREAMING their disapproval of God being put back into the platform !!! And Screaming their disapproval of Jerusalem, the captiol of Israel? MSNBC waited 8 hours, before Finally mentioning ONCE. Diane

moonchild7 8 months, 1 week ago

Ronald Reagan not a liar, Geoff? What brain rotting foods do you guys over there eat for breakfast every morning? IRAN-CONTRA? THE OCTOBER SURPRISE? BEDTIME FOR BONZO? Ronald Reagan was a LIAR to the American People with his Trickle Down Economics..............we're STILL SUFFERING from that SHAM against the middle class and working poor. Maybe you don't suffer, Geoff. Are you a 1%er? A 5%er? I'll be a 99%er 'till the day I die. I still work hard and still strive for monetary gains but I have no desire to make more money than I'll ever need to live a satisfying and secure life. If I make more than I need, then I give that money away. MikeNC, do you realize that there are a lot of people who don't believe there's A BIG MAN sitting in the SKY listening to US down here on earth? Native American's believe that "The Great Spirit in the Sky" is manifested here on earth in Nature. Spiritualists believe in INFINATE INTELLIGENCE...........not THIN AIR. And UFOologists believe that GOD is flying around in a Giant Oval Shaped Saucer. Who are you to be in judgement of those persons beliefs, who might have shouted "NO" at the DNC? You guys are for NOTHING except an EXCLUSIONARY CLUB of IGNORANT BIGOTS. Oxy Moron? Besides if there is a GOD I don't think that SHE NEEDS to have HER GREATNESS VALIDATED by ANYONE and Especially NOT you.

Nezumi 8 months, 1 week ago

Mike, I would go godless platform although I probably would not have been screaming had I been there. As far as Jerusalem, I disagree with making a geographical issue in another country a plank for an American political party.

Courseaire 8 months, 1 week ago

I personally don't care whether they use God or not in the platform and a what the Capital of another country is has no place there. What I object to is the Chair say they had a 2/3rds vote after 3 votes when clearly the "Nays" had about 60% and the "Yeas" had 40%. They just followed Obama's policy of ramming through what they want regardless of the majorities view. Courseaire, VP of EXCLUSIONARY CLUB of IGNORANT BIGOTS

moonchild7 8 months, 1 week ago

Courseaire, what do you think about how the Republicans "handled" Ron Pauls delegates? To not even count the number of delegates that he had won? That's Communism-Marxism-Nazism rolled all up all together in my book. Putting the name (words) of GOD or JERUSALEM in a document that only suggests at how things should hopefully be carried out pales in comparison. Ron Paul and his followers spent a lot of time and money aquiring those delegates and they deserved to be counted. UNJUST at a minimum.

Courseaire 8 months, 1 week ago

Moonchild7 - I think Ron Paul should have been given the respect he deserved and his votes recorded, yes, unjust. The issue is not God & Jerusalem, but taking a vote (on anything) and clearly ignoring the majority vote. This is fraud committed by the Democratic Leaders. I take that more seriously and you should too. If this represents what they think of their own delegates (not much), how can we expect them to run this country?

MikeNC 8 months, 1 week ago

Oh yea MC7...Our President and his administration has been so business friendly oreinted towards them risk takers you and him speak of (Gag). Why wait until the 11 1/2 hour of his term to pony up some rhetoric. Actions would have spoken so much louder three and 3/4 years ago. I will stick with president Clinton's original words about Obama four years ago...Mike

Bill Clinton: President Obama is selling the "biggest fairy tale I've ever seen" by Jimmy Busch

moonchild7 8 months, 1 week ago

After the voice vote, since it was clearly so close, the Chairman should have asked for an individual BALLOT COUNT. Was that possible? I don't know. Most of the delegates weren't even there. Count the ones who were there, of course. It was sorta like the Senate I guess where the "President of the Senate" gets to decide the way things should go when there's a tie. And in this case the President wanted those words included, so they were. At least there was an opportunity to VOICE YOUR OPINION. Ron Pauls delegates had NO VOICE. Having NO VOICE is the DANGER. Having a voice that's misinterpreted is another. Those of us who want to let it bother us can at least now voice that opinion. We have no idea how many delegates Ron Paul had because they weren't even counted. I've watched a lot of conventions and I've never seen that before. Did I miss the handbook rules about "How to Count Votes, somewhere? Remember it's just Arithmetic.

oceangypsy 8 months, 1 week ago

Getting back to the subject at hand, I'm sorry to say it but we need someone in the White House who can turn the economy around right now as well as balance those other issues. As Clint says we need to "let him go".

Dismal jobs report with the lowest male participation rate siince 1948 and over 600,000 more unemployed leaving the workforce altogether as detailed in this commentary by a UK newspaper. The advertisements about free foodstamps seem to be having an effect too.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2199815/Obamas-DNC-2012-speech-Bleak-unemployment-numbers-morning-Obama-tells-DNC-problems-solved.html

moonchild7 8 months, 1 week ago

Why do you have to have someone in the White House to tell you what to do? Go out and start a business, now oceangypsy. Hire a few people. Do you have to have someone to tell you to do that? The BIG Business people who could start putting out HELP WANTED signs aren't doing so. WHY? SO they can manipulate the JOBS numbers, and that's why a lot of DUMB AMERICANS believe those lying Republicans that it's all OBAMA'S fault. They've OBSTRUCTED him from DAY ONE. UNAMERICAN is what they are..ABSOLUTELY.

Courseaire 8 months, 1 week ago

According to Obama, you can't start a business without him. The BIG Business people who could start putting out HELP WANTED signs aren't doing so. WHY? SO they can manipulate the JOBS numbers, and that's why a lot of DUMB AMERICANS believe those lying Republicans that it's all OBAMA'S fault. Now that is funny!

JimRussell44 8 months, 1 week ago

Courseaire: "but taking a vote (on anything) and clearly ignoring the majority vote". Good comment. Return with me now to those thrilling days of the 2000 Presidential election where the guy with the most votes was "ignored".

JimRussell44 8 months, 1 week ago

Courseaire, so if Romney wins in September and all the corporations who have been sitting on their billions suddenly start spending, hiring workers and expanding operations, will you be at all suspicious that maybe Moon was correct?

moonchild7 8 months, 1 week ago

Not so Courseaire, you can start a business without him. You just may have trouble getting to it from your house if you also didn't build the roadways and bridges that help you on your way. You also might DRY UP from THIRST while at work, since the water you drink out of the FAUCET comes from a GOVERNMENT WATER PLANT. Of course I do understand that there's also "Private Companies" who SELL WATER. Just shows you how really STUPID people are who buy it out of all those plastic jugs. MARKETING is great isn't it. Put Faucet water in a Plastic Jug and sell it to DUMB people. And then there's those TRUCKS that get it to market on the roadways that weren't built by that private company, were they? The real kicker is that a lot of those "Private Companies" are just putting GOVERNMENT WATER PLANT water in their jugs. Imagine that. In America, anybody can start any business anytime they want and they don't have to get permission from the White House. They just have to have a belief in themselves and in their ideas to begin but also realizing that they'll never be able to be an ISLAND of SELF IMPORTANCE if they want to succeed. What's that saying? "No man is an Island entire of itself, every man is a piece of the continent...." The Republicans LIE.

Courseaire 8 months, 1 week ago

JR44 - Yes the Electoral College is silly and yes, I would be suspicious.

packwilleat 8 months, 1 week ago

Moon: You are smoking some good stuff. I hope you brought enough to share with the rest of us. I'll help you try to understand economics as simply as I can so it might sink in. It all boils down to supply and demand. That's it. See it really is simple enough that you might grasp it. Take the housing market for example: people have less money, no demand for new homes/additions, no workers needed to build where there is no demand. Why supply what is not in demand. But I'm sure you would probably say there needs to be some kind of Carpenters Union to "stabilize" that sector.

JimRussell44 8 months, 1 week ago

Geoff, politicians are human beings. We all lie. Some tell bigger lies than others. Some believe their own lies and think it's the truth. You may think that omitting information is not telling a lie, but it is not telling the whole truth, which can affect the outcome of a decision making process and has the same effect as telling a lie. In my opinion, not be completly forthcoming is lying. Compromising and lying are two different unrelated things. There is nothing ugly or unseemly in compromising to reach an overall agreement. Lying is not required to compromise. You listed several politicians that you believe never lied. To help prove my point, I'll use Paul Ryan as the current example. When asked what his best times were in running in marathons, he was quoted as saying that he ran a sub 3 hour event in New York in 1983. He said it was in "the high twos". In fact, his time was 4:01:24, although when later confronted with the facts, changed his mind and said it was a "3:58:44 and I have a photo to prove it". Well, as you can see, that's no place close to "under three hours". So, is he telling a lie? Do lies only matter when they affect someone else? Can we trust someone who would lie about something so trivial? Or should we assume that everyone lies and we should just be on our guard to try and flush out the really big ones?

JimRussell44 8 months, 1 week ago

packwilleat, you seem to think of yourself as an economics expert. Tell me, which comes first, the supply or the demand?

JimRussell44 8 months, 1 week ago

Courseaire, thank you for your reply.

Courseaire 8 months, 1 week ago

Supply or Demand; Chicken or Egg and wife says "Do you like my hair short or long?" The answer to all is "Yes". "Do I look fat in this dress?" The answer is "No" or a more dangerous answer: "The dress doen't make you look fat?"

packwilleat 8 months, 1 week ago

Jim: there really is no correct answer to that question. Supply could easily come first for a new/radical idea or invention(think steve jobs). Mostly the averge entrepreneur starts on the safe side with demand being the guiding force. Kinda like asking what came first, the chicken or the egg? Who knows, but they're both delicious!

packwilleat 8 months, 1 week ago

Well it looks like CA beat me to it.

packwilleat 8 months, 1 week ago

Moon: you stated that anyone, anytime can start a business with out asking for permission?? That only goes to show that you have never tried or have been self employed. Taxes, fees, business license, insurance, liability coverage, bonds....... on and on. But that is the price to pay to play the game right?

justpassingby2 8 months, 1 week ago

If the republicans obstructed from day one (as per MC7) to make obama look bad, that can only mean they let the health care bill go through, call it obamacare because it surely has made obama look really awful! So now moonie, has obama said how many more years of the bush tax cuts for rich people like obama, pelosi and reid it will take to prove they don't work?

moonchild7 8 months, 1 week ago

Here's the other side of Supply and Demand. Most everyone has running water in their homes. Some pay for it because they have to get it from a Government Water Plant source. Others have had to dig personal wells and don't pay a government for it. Since everyone can satisfy their thirst from their own faucet why would anyone then BUY water in a plastic jug? Your need (demand) for water is being satisfied by your own faucet (supply). BECAUSE SOMEONE STARTED A COMPANY TELLING YOU THAT THAT FAUCET WATER WAS BAD FOR YOU Thus begining a LIE to create a DEMAND for something you DON'T NEED. That's how many NEW business start packwilleat. There also IS a demand for real estate, it just isn't private homes that much anymore. Instead the demand is for Apts and condos. Just look what they're building more of around here. Taxes, fees and licenses are just a part of running a business that's responsible and can be "watched" to make sure they treat their customers right. There are still some businesses that require very little paperwork...you do know that don't you? I said you don't have to wait for the President to tell you to go ahead and start a business, it's just your choice of the business you want to start and what level of paperwork you'll feel like filling out. If you're a doctor you can go into Private Practice where it will be up to you to keep up with the paperwork or you can go to work for a Hospital or Clinic and let them do all the paperwork. Choices, we have so many.

Courseaire 8 months, 1 week ago

I guess the Rooster had to Lie to the Chicken before she could lay the Egg. So it's Lie, Checken, Egg in that order. I wonder what the Rooster said?

justpassingby2 8 months, 1 week ago

I think it is obvious that MC7 is not a real person. She is plant used by the pilot so after reading her posts, dusty, bouser and the likes only look like morons instead of idiots.

packwilleat 8 months, 1 week ago

Moon: the problem is you do not believe that an in dividual has the right to own 100% of their life, liberty, or property. Let's get back to your misunderstanding of free market economics. Let's say I sold "street pharmaceuticals", just an example here. I supply a demand ok. That exchange it completely voluntary, no force is used to demand I make a sale/profit. I like my profits as it supplies my monetary needs to support my life. So then why would I want to supply bad product that could possibly end my relationship with my clients. In other words, why sell a bad product and risk my profit margin?

MikeNC 8 months, 1 week ago

Moonchild, Every Paul vote was recorded and duly noted by the speaker that day ! Diane

JimRussell44 8 months, 1 week ago

The chicken and egg scenario depends on whether you believe in creationism or evolution. The supply and demand scenario depends on whether you have an idea or a marketing department.

MikeNC 8 months, 1 week ago

Jim: Lets also use Obama, as an example: what do you make out of Obama telling us he visited 57 states, and then went on to tell his rally, he wasn't able to visit Hawaii and Alaska? What should we make from a President who told Americans, Obamacare would be on C Span and that there would be DEBATE? and what do we make out of President, who Told Americans, the buck stops with him and if he screws up, he will only be a one term President? Diane

MikeNC 8 months, 1 week ago

Moonchild: One more note on the God or should say, God Less Democratic Platform. It's been pointed out by a number of Liberals on past posts to the Pilot, that if Jesus were alive, he'd be a Democrat. Guess, His Daddy, didn't fit fill the bill. Diane

skylinefirepest 8 months, 1 week ago

Guys, I agree with JR44...JER was snotty all the time and really liked calling names...but, I have had some good back and forth with JR44 and I don't believe they are one and same. Moonie, if we wanted roads we would build them WITHOUT THE GOVERNMENT getting in the way! It's been done that way for many years. In fact I'm sure that you are aware that government did not build the first roads in this country, right??? Obama loves government and hates business but it is business, big and small that puts people to work. Obama is a big time liar and if you go back and look at the promises he made four years ago you'll find that he is a big time FAILURE as well. Time to give him his well deserved pink slip!!

Thatcher 8 months, 1 week ago

MC7-- You have a rather interesting take on economics. Cheers!

moonchild7 8 months, 1 week ago

So, I'm not a real person? I've been created by The Pilot? Not quite justpassingby2, I am REAL and I am UNIQUE. That's why so many of you guys have trouble understanding my words and ideas. I'm just not like most of you other guys. Not a better person but just a person who doesn't fit into any set category. The "Black Market" definately serves a need packwilleat but it's usually run by a different breed of "business person" and so uses the opportunity to MAXIMIZE profits anyway possible since they are under no threat of licenses, fees or rules. They only have to watch out for "the man." The DEMAND almost always outweighs SUPPLY in the case you cited so that's why risks are taken to sell "bad product." The legitimate markets of course try to do that stuff too thinking wrongly that they'll never get caught. In a modern civilization basic human nature doesn't allow for 100% of the ideals of Life, Liberty and Property to be actualized because the vast majority of human beings are nasty, selfish, greedy, predjudiced, conceeded, or just plain crazy. There would be constant anarchy. For you MikeNC, from The Nation Magazine by John Nickols (8/29/12): "Anyone who has ever read an Ayn Rand novel or George Orwells 1984, is familiar with the lifeless patterning of the propaganda state,where the big lie is reported so steadily that it is eventually mistaken for truth......Paul backers had enough delegates and support in the states to have his name put in nomination....As the NYT noted, delegates from Nevada tried to nominate Paul from the floor, submitting petitions from their own state as well as MN, ME, IA, OR, AK and the Virgin Islands. That should have done the trick. Rules require signatures from just five states. But the party changed the rules on the spot. Henceforth, delegates must gather petitions from eight states." LOVE that FAIRNESS DOCTRINE of theirs.

MikeNC 8 months, 1 week ago

Moonchild : I Love Your Party's FAIRNESS DOCTRINE, TOO ! Bottom dollar, Paul did not have the delegate votes by even a slim margin, to capture the Republican Nomination ! Pity your party already had a teleprompter before the LA Mayor, to tell him what to SAY! Diane

packwilleat 8 months, 1 week ago

Moon: one of these days I would love to hear your definition of Anarchy.

Are you one of these people in this video?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lG-kpNiLWf4

moonchild7 8 months, 1 week ago

SONS OF ANARCHY.

oceangypsy 8 months, 1 week ago

MC7: "Not so Courseaire, you can start a business without him. You just may have trouble getting to it from your house if you also didn't build the roadways and bridges that help you on your way. You also might DRY UP from THIRST while at work, since the water you drink out of the FAUCET comes from a GOVERNMENT WATER PLANT."

Shouldn't we then also BLAME the government when a business fails? :-)

Thatcher 8 months, 1 week ago

MC7-- Take a wild guess as to who pays for the GOVERNMENT WATER PLANT? Just take a guess. Cheers!

MikeNC 8 months, 1 week ago

I see Dusty is back in town...Mike

moonchild7 8 months, 1 week ago

Thatcher, the GOVERNMENT is us of course so as TAXPAYERS supporting our GOVERNMENT and what it does with such monies it collects, we need to watch carefully how the GOVERNMENT spends said FUNDS. Now, don't go off on me because I just said that. You guys who want the GOVERNMENT to STOP using the taxes we pay to it to fund such things as WELFARE, SCHOOLS, and the ENVIRONMENT have those of us on the other side who don't want our taxes to fund the MILITARY, or CORPORATE WELFARE QUEENS. That's where the compromise is suppossed to come in when it comes to how we ultimately use those funds. Voting at the polls is also a way to have our voices heard as to how we want things to be. Therefore, what? It seems we all at least APPROVE of the GOVERNMENT building our WATER PLANTS. Then again some of you probably want them PRIVATIZED. I don't. And NO, if your business FAILS it's your fault. Now if the Roads or Bridges are closed for dis-repair and your customers can't get to you, well then it's probably the governments fault, although maybe there isn't enough revenue being collected to keep the roadways up to par. Nothing in life is fair or absolute though, so the answer can't be at hand, oceangypsy.

honesty2 8 months, 1 week ago

My friend's parents escaped Cuba when Castro came to power. They were shocked that Barack Obama was elected and are increasingly alarmed that he may be re-elected. They've seen and heard this kind of stuff before and tell people it's why they fled Cuba. Know your history!

On a side note, my friend's business is booming. He's a psychiatrist. Apparently, depression is currently rampant.

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