Walk in Our Shoes

As of Friday, October 26, 2012

Can a nation that has been at war for the last 10 years support a presidential candidate who promotes an “unchallengeable, strong military, that is willing to go to war at every turn,” yet for generations the history of his family has been to intentionally avoid any military service at all costs — just because they can?

War is not a polo match or regatta to be won. It is not a balance sheet that needs to be improved. It is violence and death.

It is the families of engaged soldiers who will suffer the angst, sorrow and loss when a soldier dies.

Those families will care very little about the gesturing Mr. Romney does with the lowering of taxes or how many “jobs” his actions will create.

He has never experienced a violent death of a loved one in a war and yet he declares, “This is what we need to do for freedom’s sake,” and does it from a corporate board room. This is wrong.

Gov. Romney, come down from your gilded tower and be with us, if your desire is to lead us to a better place.

Walk in our shoes. Feel what we feel. We are not the money-sucking pariah you understand us to be.

David Gray

Pinehurst

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The_AnonymusProfit 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Your first paragraph sums up the rest of your letter which I will not read, Once you can write a letter that does not come from a Liberal blog site maybe I will take the time to read.

The Profit says -- You Fail!!!!

OldPilot 6 months, 3 weeks ago

If like "The_AnonymusProfit" you only read that with which you agree you never learn anything new.

mcgal 6 months, 3 weeks ago

I agree with you, Mr. Gray. I also agree with you, OldPilot. TAP, you just do not make any sense.

JimHeim 6 months, 3 weeks ago

You wouldn't want to risk the lives of our job creators you would you? Military service is for the little people.

packwilleat 6 months, 3 weeks ago

The only candidate that was against military intervention was Ron Paul, and everyone called him "kooky". So we're left with Romney or Obama....... who's kooky now?

DaveyNC 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Though you don't say so explicitly, Mr. Gray, I take it that you are either in the military or have a love one in the military.

In light of that, I would be interested to get your take on this: http://goo.gl/RI4Wv

Thanks in advance for your opinion and for your service.

packwilleat 6 months, 3 weeks ago

List of service men and women lost due to Mr. Nobel Peace Prize............

http://forums.floridasportsman.com/showthread.php?74304-here-is-a-little-list-of-Obama-s-war-dead-in-afganstain-alone

The_AnonymusProfit 6 months, 3 weeks ago

@OLDPILOT, Mcgal

When you start an article with blatent untruths its not worth reading.

Aberdeeniac 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Right now Mitt has the tools to change this economy around.....
Thats whats is needed first..... Then someone who can project our streangth through a well funded military..... So it comes down to Obama who has zero military or business experience or Mitt who has the business experience and a backbone to stand up to international threats...... You decide! If you want proof this president will leave his own military high and dry read this article...... Those retired or ex Navy Seals made me DAMN PROUD......... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/cia-operators-were-denied-request-for-help-during-benghazi-attack-sources-say/

John

Aberdeeniac 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Jim are you slipping bro? You wrote "You wouldn't want to risk the lives of our job creators you would you? Military service is for the little people." Your community organizer has left us high and dry.... What military service did Obama provide? Read the article above and thank for your non support.....

skylinefirepest 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Jimmy Heim...so military service is only for the little people, right?? Is that why your craven idol obumma didn't serve?? 101Jackson....Bush senior was a veteran if I remember correctly and Bush Jr. flew a fighter for the ANG. Both served as opposed to any of the Democrats in our recent past...obumma never, Clinton actively evaded ( and his wife hated the military, to boot. )

Aberdeeniac 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Your first paragraph sums up the rest of your letter which I will not read, Once you can write a letter that does not come from a Liberal blog site maybe I will take the time to read.

The Profit says -- You Fail!!!!

Amen to that AND THEY COMPLAIN when someone posts a link..... Well thats called giving credit where credit is due..... The other is called what????? It begins with a P

Aberdeeniac 6 months, 3 weeks ago

The crap pile just gets larger:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/reporter-obama-would-not-answer-repeated-questions-on-whether-requests-for-help-in-benghazi-were-denied/

honesty2 6 months, 3 weeks ago

"It is the families of engaged soldiers who will suffer the angst, sorrow and loss when a soldier dies." Yes, it is. Apparently Pres. Obama missed that message as his administration (from the top) refused to send in help in Benghazi, despite multiple requests, to save 4 Americans serving there. See what one of those fathers has to say. http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/petraeus-throws-obama-under-bus_657896.html http://news.yahoo.com/father-slain-former-seal-report-raise-questions-response-175333469--abc-news-politics.html

honesty2 6 months, 3 weeks ago

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/10/26/ac-130u-gunship-was-on-scene-in-benghazi-obama-admin-refused-to-let-it-fire/

packwilleat 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Keep driving that R & D train. What is the definition of insanity again????

honesty2 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Where was the president while these men were murdered? "Did Obama Watch..." http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/10/they_fought_for_their_lives.html

honesty2 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Military caller affirms pres. had to have known about real time Benghazi attack. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lljKmm...

packwilleat 6 months, 3 weeks ago

All the proper channels were notified of the situation. Panic putton was pushed multiple times. Intel went to the POTUS. That's where it stopped. He was notified somewhere around 5pm.

fugitiveguy 6 months, 3 weeks ago

"War is not a polo match or regatta to be won."

It is despicable how the rabid left has attempted to portray a man to any fairminded observer is good, moral and generous man. Without a doubt the most unprecedented efforts have been made to dig up dirt on Romney, they haven't turned up squat.

The_AnonymusProfit 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Thats because Rovrmney makes driven snow look grey Fugitive

nothingspecial 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Mr. Gray, your letter is a sanctimonious attempt to hide your general dislike for Romney that is not based upon any facts I can see but liberal jealousy. TAP summed you up.

justpassingby2 6 months, 3 weeks ago

In my best Jimmy 'the idiot' Heim....what them wars have to do with obama, he didn't start them?

Yukonjohn 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Hey packwilleat, Isn't it something that the Republicans hate their nominee, we have the President that doesnt have a clue how to fix the economy, run foreign policy or much anything else, and they called RP a kook? We all look foolish now!! As more and more of RP's predictions come true, and the country goes down the drain, we will look even more foolish. And at least he had a service record to stand on.

packwilleat 6 months, 3 weeks ago

You can't fix stupid. ;-)

fugitiveguy 6 months, 3 weeks ago

"Isn't it something that the Republicans hate their nominee,"

I am a Conservative and also a republican, the above couldn't be further from the truth for me. I suppose when compared to the lib/Dems we don't look upon our nominee (particularly the current one) as a deity, a being without fault, one whom it is blasphemy to criticize. Their is much to like about our candidate, that is apparent to anyone with an open mind. His resume beats the incumbent by a mile and I challenge anyone to prove me wrong. We have a president that says one thing, does another and his minions keep singing his praises and the mainstream media turns a blind eye. Historians will see this election as a turning point, for better or worse. Anyone who pulls the lever for Obama knowing what has gone on in the past four years has a financial death wish for the country, themselves and their future generations.

MikeNC 6 months, 3 weeks ago

fugitiveguy 8 minutes ago ...Anyone who pulls the lever for Obama knowing what has gone on in the past four years has a financial death wish for the country, themselves and their future generations.

Right to the point, powerful and true. I'm an optimist and do believe the majority of Americans will be thinking of that, regardless of which political party they belong, and vote Romney / Ryan...Thanks Fugitiveguy...Mike

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packwilleat 6 months, 3 weeks ago

@Fugitiveguy/all Republicans................You guys still don't get it. Romney is one of the most liberal politicians out there, and has a "resume" to prove it. The right is in full bandwagon mode, much like the left was in '08. Party over country!! As Samuel L. Jackson said........... "WAKE THE F*%# UP!!" Watch the video in this link should serve to prove you wrong.

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/09/peter-schiff-smacksdown-mitt-romney.html?m=1

packwilleat 6 months, 3 weeks ago

The lesser of two evils, is still evil.

skylinefirepest 6 months, 3 weeks ago

101...yes ANG is definitely serving...or did you miss the part where ANG pilots were shot down in VN?? And yes again, being a weather weenie is also serving...guess what Dude?? If you don't know what the weather is over the target you can't fly!!! Wild, huh??

packwilleat 6 months, 3 weeks ago

And more.......

http://patriot-newswire.com/2012/01/mitt-romney-a-liberals-liberal-republican/

packwilleat 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Anyone remember this video????

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c

fugitiveguy 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Pack, I do get it, not sure what "it" is in your world, I have to live in the real world, "this" world. One of these two men will be the president. What about that don't "you" get? It may be the lesser of two evils but given the choices we have I think the choice could not be clearer.

moonchild7 6 months, 3 weeks ago

How is it that President Obama hasn't a clue on how to fix the economy.........when it's being fixed? The stockmarket is at record levels, housing sales are up and unemployment is down. Do you want to continue spouting these lies to try to get some of those "undecided voters" to vote your way? Reality is reality, it's not a dream. The economy is improving slowly, even while the world's economy has slowed down so instead of continuing to yack "bad news" it's time to be a bit more positive. I'll have to use this space to comment on my "voting record" that Thatcher asked me about on another thread....since they closed it for comments. 1972: McGovern, 1976: McCarthy, 1980: Carter, 1984: Mondale 1988, Dukakis, 1992: Clinton, 1996: Nader, 2000: Gore, 2004:Kerry, 2008: Obama. My Carter votes and Clinton votes were the paradox in a way. Carter was too conservative to vote for him the first time so I chose McCarthy while Clinton was too conservative for me the second time so I voted Nader. That's the way I "remember" my votes guys, perhaps you can correct me if I am wrong. So, you also can see that I never voted for a "winner" until Clinton in 1992. Therefore I am not responsible for all of the downturns in our middleclass incomes, WARZ or BS since they began with Ronald Reagan and really HIT THE FAN because of George Bush. You can't keep blaming President Obama, those lies just don't tread water.

nothingspecial 6 months, 3 weeks ago

packwilleat, are you sure you want us to vote based upon a video?

packwilleat 6 months, 3 weeks ago

"One of these two men will be president"......... unfortunately. What better way to advance tyranny then to offer up a false sense of choice. When your man decides to carry out more of the bush/obama doctrine, i'll be here to say I told ya so.

packwilleat 6 months, 3 weeks ago

"Vote based on a video"???? The words came straight out of the horses mouth. Already starting to deny the truth like the Obama camp.

packwilleat 6 months, 3 weeks ago

No hope for change. I got a game to watch. Go Wolfpack!!

RmeMP 6 months, 3 weeks ago

@jimheim: did you REALLY mean it when you said, "Military service is for the little people."? i wonder how your wife would feel about this comment - isn't she a career military person? i dont know if shes as screwed up in the head as you are, but as a veteran myself - i can tell you that your comments disgust me...

and as for Mr. Gray: did you serve in the military? my money says no... if so, than you would know that most of us veterans can not stand oblunder, and do not trust him with our lives! why dont you look to the four Americans killed in Benghazi? this admin KNEW WITHIN 2 HOURS what was going on and did nothing to try and save them, because it wasn't in their political best interests... they couldnt afford to have a rescue mission fail this close to election time.

agree with me or not, but those in us in the military community who know more than the average citizen know more to this story and what really happened; ps - the "film" had NOTHING to do with it...

nothingspecial 6 months, 3 weeks ago

101jackson, what then are your qualifications for the presidency? I will admit that the Demorcatic choices we had for 2008 - Hillary and Barack - were the least qualified in recent history. Even Jimmie Carter was way more qualified than either. What exactly makes Mitt unqualified in your opinion? What makes you think he cares about the benefits package? He opted to not even take his salary during his term as governor. How is he different or less qualified than FDR? Just an opposing opinion is all here. No rebuttal or defense needed, I spout off plenty myself on this blog.

packwilleat - your point was of course taken - plenty that has come straight out of both horses mouths, if you want to trade videos.

JimHeim 6 months, 3 weeks ago

According to testimony in the House, the extra guards requested were for Tripoli, some 400 miles away. How would that have helped Benghazi?

JimHeim 6 months, 3 weeks ago

RmeMP, Sorry to have confused you with sarcasm. I forgot that the conservative brain is too primitive to understand the concept.

honesty2 6 months, 3 weeks ago

I see Mr. H cannot defend the indefensible of this administration ignoring real time pleas for help for those in Benghazi. Nor can he defend the absurd cover up which continues.

honesty2 6 months, 3 weeks ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KodArX... (Lt. Col. Wood on Benghazi attack "It was a matter of time" www.youtube.com/watch?v=44J1uT5KYAc (Nordstrom on Benghazi, requests about 6 min.) http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/documents-back-up-claims-of-requests-for-greater-security-in-benghazi/ Watch, read, and learn.

honesty2 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Eric Nordstrom: "‘Jim, you know what makes most frustrating about this assignment? It is not the hardships, it is not the gunfire, it is not the threats. It is dealing and fighting against the people, programs and personnel who are supposed to be supporting me. And I added (sic) it by saying, ‘For me the Taliban is on the inside of the building.’” http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/security-officer-on-state-department-blocking-requests-for-me-the-taliban-is-inside-the-building/

honesty2 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Why is admiral heading Mideast strike group being replaced? Hmmm....what does he know? And what's this about Gen. Ham being replaced as head of Africom? Hmmm.... Rumblings are that these men were ready to respond to Benghazi situation and were told to stand down.

JimHeim 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Or maybe it was just time to move on. Those in the military understand that their time on any given assignment is limited. But conspiracies are what you live for.

packwilleat 6 months, 3 weeks ago

The question to be asked is, who leaked the safe house loction?

honesty2 6 months, 3 weeks ago

One is not usually relieved of command during a deployment, no? No, I do not live for conspiracies. As an American citizen, the truth would suffice. Cover ups and incompetence seem to be hallmarks of this administration. Hopefully, we the people will make sure Mr. President understands his time on this assignment is over and will move on after the election on Nov. 6.

RmeMP 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Botched fast and furious, followed by its cover-up, normally would have been enough for impeachment; Benghazi, followed by its cover-up, should not only result in impeachment, it should lead to a criminal investigation.

It is said that a man's character can be weighed not by his mistakes, but what he does after the mistakes... Multiple cover-ups tell me everything I need to know about Barry!

Aberdeeniac 6 months, 3 weeks ago

RmeMP.... Exactly.... So why vote for Obama and spend tax payer dollars to impeach? Just vote for the better candidate.... MITT.....

Aberdeeniac 6 months, 3 weeks ago

@ Jim... you wrote"According to testimony in the House, the extra guards requested were for Tripoli, some 400 miles away. How would that have helped Benghazi?"

Don't play stupid and confuse the extra guard requests DAYS before the attack to the request to the "we are under fire and need help now requests" Which were denied!!!!! Right now all fingers are pointed that Obama or his Chief of Staff denied the request.....

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/petraeus-throws-obama-under-bus_657896.html

The_AnonymusProfit 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Several scenarios now show a 269 electorial split, if this happens the election goes to the house or representatives. I wonder what that outcome will be.

nothingspecial 6 months, 3 weeks ago

101jackson, great points, I couldn't agree more.

Thatcher 6 months, 3 weeks ago

JimHeim (7 hours, 2 min. ago)-- Please tell us who requested 400 "extra guards." Now, tell us what Ty Woods and Glen Doherty requested, and tell us how many times they requested it before they were finally murdered. "Extra guards?" I try to be patient with you, but you should be ashamed of yourself.

MikeNC 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Just remember and WAY more than these three are at the root of this...When this finally unravels and the truth is revealed, all Hell will break loose demanding consquences. Many family legacy's and careers will be ruined for the lies and manipulation...all to hang onto perks, power, position or just in order to protect an errant ideology. Very sad...Mike

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LSM 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Mike: So very true. One reaps what one sows. Sin effects many otherwise bystanders.

geoffcutler 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Watching the news this morning. This Benghazi thing? It's going to explode on Obama.

fugitiveguy 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Regarding Benghazi, we have no national media anymore other than Fox, they apparently are all controlled by Washington. Hard to find any mention of Benghazi on any national media homepage. We can be sure if this was a Republican admin it would be front and center.

LSM 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Mr. Cutler: That is why all good democrat voters should hurry and vote early, so reality will not effect their bizarro cartoon world.

JimHeim 6 months, 3 weeks ago

This election will not be decided in the House. Obama will get more than 290 electoral votes and will be re-inaugurated in January. Get used to it.

fugitiveguy 6 months, 3 weeks ago

People like Jim, (party first, country be damned) make me wish for the 2 Americas John Edwards talked about. He and the like minded could have one and I would gladly relocate to have nothing to do with those who think 16T national debts are benign or even a good thing and other such foolish notions. Anyone who pulls the lever for Obama knowing what has gone on in the past four years has a financial death wish for the country, themselves and their future generations.

JimHeim 6 months, 3 weeks ago

"Neither the president nor anyone in the White House denied any requests for assistance in Benghazi," National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor told Yahoo News by email.

You have a better source than this for your absurd accusations?

keke 6 months, 3 weeks ago

You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.

justpassingby2 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Nobody stupider than Jimmy heim...too funny. Now he degrades his own wife and her service record!

geoffcutler 6 months, 3 weeks ago

If we'd get some more media investigating Benghazi besides FOX, Obama wouldn't make it another day, much less 9. Jim, nine days is an eternity for FOX, and If Obama skates, it'll be a miracle. And even if he does, this thing is going to be his downfall, pre or post election.

JimHeim 6 months, 3 weeks ago

fugitveguy - We don't pull levers in Moore County.

Yukonjohn 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Packwilleat, I will stand shoulder to shoulder with you to say "I told you so" when Mitt turns out to be exactly like Obama!! There is no difference in the two!! It matters not who wins, the die is cast, the game is over. We will get what is left of the disaster that was the United States. So sad.

moonchild7 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Constant FEAR-MONGERING is a mental illness. You guys need to get some PROFESSIONAL help. Hurricane Sandy and the Global Climate Change that is taking place is more dangerous than what you're talking about. There was no mention of global climate change at all during the debates. That was quite telling, in that they were afraid to say anything since its the OIL, GAS and COAL Co.s who have this country in a mess. Along of course with the Military Industrial Complex. Here's what to FEAR. A-typical hurricanes, tornados, floods, earthquakes, snow, ice, etc. My son just called from Lower Manhattan and he says he's never seen it like that...he walked to the closest McDonalds to get something to eat and they're closed. The Starbucks also closed. There's no traffic and very few people. He says he'll stay at his office until about noon and then get back home. My sister in CT is losing her mind about it all. They've evacuated the beaches in her town and the neighboring one's also. She lost electric for 3 days during Irene last year but she says she can just feel it, that this will be worse. The President is doing a great job. This morning on tv I heard Valerie Jarrett say: "President Obama didn't tell people that I can make all of the changes, it's about the change's WE can make." STOP going backwards Republicans. That's a bad and dangerous place to go.

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