A Disturbing Sign of the Times

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As a concerned citizen asking for fairness and civility in Moore County, I have noticed during this election run-up, there are zero campaign signs for Obama/ Biden posted on Morganton or Midland roads, two of our busiest throughways. The Romney/Ryan placards are seen everywhere.

I took it upon myself to find out why. I learned quickly that although signs have been installed time and again, they have disappeared within hours.

Now I ask you voters of Moore County, is this happening by chance, or is there a concerted effort by the party out of power to play dirty?

Are they so unhinged by the possibility of a second Obama victory that normal rules of fair play have been suspended?

Kathleen Oleson

Pinehurst

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MikeNC 7 months ago

Kathy: Funny you should mention signs. I'm trying to figure out how the Romney signs are disappearing? Diane

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DaveyNC 7 months ago

This sort of thing will result in the loss of the election. By somebody.

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geoffcutler 7 months ago

No doubt....Too funny!

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nothingspecial 7 months ago

If you're so worried Kathleen, why don't you all set up a watch? The last thing most of us want to be seen with is an Obama/Biden sign.

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The_AnonymusProfit 7 months ago

I think the real answer is simple, there are not enough obama supporters to warrant signs

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MikeNC 7 months ago

Thanks Davey, we all needed a good laugh today. Diane

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teufelhunden 7 months ago

Saw one in the traffic circle

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skylinefirepest 7 months ago

After the disaster that obumma has been for this country, if somebody mistakenly puts an obumma sign in my yard I'll BURN IT!!!

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nothingspecial 7 months ago

Has anyone else noticed how all the yard signs you see for Obama are in public places and most all of the Romney signs you see are in yards? Do I detect the Democratic trait of not wanting to take responsibility or clearly come out for or against something in the yards of Democrats or similarily do they not want to admit to having yards? I do see almost some car decals, but many less than the Romney decals.

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JimHeim 7 months ago

Is there anyone who has decided who to vote for by seeing a yard sign? I regard them as a total waste of money.

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JimHeim 7 months ago

nothingspecial - Take a drive along Youngs Rd - a surprising number of homes in horse country are sporting Obama signs.

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krl10 7 months ago

A person, or persons, came into my yard last night and took my Obama signs. If you condone this behavior, you are identifying yourself with a thief, a coward, and a sneak. You are also trashing the 1st amendment to United States Constitution. You are expressing disrespect for the document. If you are defending this behavior, that represents your values. I’m sure there will be childish, snarky sniping coming my way now. I am a Vietnam combat veteran. I earned my right to free speech, and my property should be respected.

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MikeNC 7 months ago

Jim: Mike and I did take the long drive on Conn to the commissary, just yesterday. Saw ONE. Diane

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nothingspecial 7 months ago

That's right Jim, I forgot seeing that, sorry. The one on Connecticut is not attached to anyone's property. krl10, you're right, taking those signs is ridiculous. Thief, coward and sneak are good descriptions

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Thatcher 7 months ago

Did it ever occur to anyone that the reason Obama signs are being removed is to help reduce the deficit? There are SO many people, who love hope and change, who want a souvenir to remind them of a time where anything was possible...even socialism. These signs are being sold on the black market as priceless trophies, to be displayed proudly in one's garage. The proceeds are being used to cut the federal deficit in half, to keep Obama's pledge. Look, the truth is anytime you have someone as popular and loved as Obama, you want just a small piece of it. He is our gift to us. And none of this is suprising, given the great job he's done. Cheers!

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skylinefirepest 7 months ago

A Viet Nam veteran supporting obumma...wow! You must harbor hard feelings for the military in this country as your bud obumma doesn't give a tinker's damn about the sacrifices of the soldiers!!

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AFCHIEF 7 months ago

Kathy and what is your proof that the signs are stolen? Are you sure they were not just redistributed to someone else!

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Thatcher 7 months ago

These signs are now even more valuable since Chavez, Castro, and Putin have each endorsed Obama. http://times247.com/articles/obama-receives-endorsements-from-three-dictators. In the words of JimHeim, "What's not to like?" Cheers!

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The_AnonymusProfit 7 months ago

The Profit makes his prediction for tomorrow,

Romney Wins the debate making him 3 - 0

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MikeNC 7 months ago

You didn't build that sign, some one else did. Diane

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Yukonjohn 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Skylinepest, I have a problem with you giving a vet a hard time about voting for the President. As a vet also, l understand that there are many opinions in this great nation, and opinions are like posteriors, everyone has one and most of them stink!! Our country is split down the middle, half conservative, half liberal. So if you see things one way, it is certainly your right, and if someone else sees it differently, that is certainly their right. This individual, from what he says, was in a war zone protecting your and my right to express our opinion.

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packwilleat 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Yukon ~ although we agree on mostly everything, I'll have to disagree that our troops are protecting any of our freedoms by fighting abroad. With every war that we have been involved in, they have only brought more tyranny here at home. Look at how the Patriot Act or NDAA were sold to the people, by fear of imaginary boogymen and "terrorist". With every war, liberty is usurped. I value our troops more than most. But I can't agree that they are defending our freedoms when the true enemy resides much closer.

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moonchild7 6 months, 4 weeks ago

This is definately RomneyLand and I've seen only one Obama/Biden sign so far. It wan't even in anybodys yard so maybe people arre afraid of some sort of retaliation? Not surprising since the Righties are so angry at themselves for supporting this loser. No way will he win the debate. No way.

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coffecreme 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Last election I had a Obama/Biden Sticker on my car and someone keyed it right across the sticker which gouged my bumper.

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Yukonjohn 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Packwilleat, we DO agree on this. I did make that statement about the gentleman being a Viet Nam vet, and that he had risked his life protecting our freedoms. That was sort of a mistake. I, too, am a vet of many years and traveled worldwide. Had the situation arose, l would have done my job, to the death. Fortunately, that never came up, but our servicemembers think one thing....they are there doing whatever their commanders above them ask of them. It has to be viewed as the defense of our homeland, but you and l both know that in reality, that is most likely not the case. I feel we have gone to war on several occassions for reasons much different that "defense of our nation". Our leaders say it is in our "national interest" and servicemembers fight and die. I have been out of the military since the mid 80s, and now feel we should get out of almost ALL countries we are in overseas. We should also close our embassies in those countries that abhoar us. Let Ex-Pats know they have a certain time to get out, or they are on their own!!!

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geoffcutler 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Stolen/damaged signs? Pfft! That's nothing. Pew Research is releasing data that 3 million people are registered to vote...at least twice, and do. They move to a new state, don't tell their election commission. They vote in person in their new state, and cast an absentee ballot in their old state. Voter fraud. There's the real disturbing sign of the times.

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fugitiveguy 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Now, Geoff...we know there is only a teensy tiny amount of voter fraud in this country. Jim and the other southpaws have assured us of that many times. We need to talk about more important things like missing signs, birth control pills, binders of women and such.

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marathonman 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Yesterday, 10/21, the newwork news showed Prez Obama on the telephone from Camp David being briefed about the 'terror' incident at the SPA in Wisconsin. Can there be any doubt that he was briefed about the 'terror' incident at our Consultate in Benghazi even as it was going down......I think not. He and VP Biden said they had no briefing about the 200 or so 'terrorists' who had overrun the main consulate, seen by drone and live satellite feed at the State Dept.. Later after the Amb was down and the IT guy dead, the 'terrorists' headed for the out building where the two CIA guys were pinned down.
Knowing they were dead anyhow, they chose to fight instead of run. The killed 60 or so of the 200 plus or minus 'terrorists' before being killed themselves. Nothing to do with the lack of Obama/Biden signs on Mid Pines Road you say.....oh nay my fine Liberal minded friends, I say. Just more of the mendacity of the left....we are on to your games and it will come to an end in November.

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krl10 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Geoff, could you post a link to your evidence of this statement, "Pew Research is releasing data that 3 million people are registered to vote...at least twice, and do." Especially the "and do." part. Interesting that you consider theft and freedom of speech to be such trivial matters.

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Courseaire 6 months, 4 weeks ago

JimHeim - "Take a drive along Youngs Rd - a surprising number of homes in horse country are sporting Obama signs" Actually, you're mistaking those signs with more horse manure.

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emb6683 6 months, 4 weeks ago

JimHeim - "Take a drive along Youngs Rd - a surprising number of homes in horse country are sporting Obama signs"

The stable hands probably put them there, hoping for some change.

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JimHeim 6 months, 4 weeks ago

geoff, what you describe is registration fraud (you know, the kind Republicans are being arrested for) not voter impersonation fraud, the non-existent GOP fantasy used to disenfranchise minorities. Even in the Republican world of let's-pretend, it's well to remember the difference.

You might ask Ann Coulter how things worked out when she tried to vote from two different residences.

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JimHeim 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Courseaire - I've been dealing with Republicans long enough to know the difference.

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JimHeim 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Good news for us all! After the first three days of early voting state-wide, Democrats are leading Republicans with 54.7% of the total cast.

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skylinefirepest 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Yukon and 101...I agree with your comments but I stand by the truth of mine. Obumma doesn't now and never has given a damn about the military. He, like Clinton, didn't serve and doesn't have a high opinion of those who have and do. Therefore a vote from a veteran for obumma doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense. As a vet and having a deep love for this country, the finest on the face of the earth, that pretty much means that I detest this disaster and just about all that he stands for. He has shown numerous times that he has no love of the country and as president is simply working for his own agenda.

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dlb 6 months, 4 weeks ago

JH, you are assuming that all democrats voted for Obama. A huge mistake. 54.7% is the percentage of voters who are registered Democrats, not reflecting how they voted.

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geoffcutler 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Jim, unlike you, I don't care whether it's Republicans or Democrats, Double, triple registrations need to be weeded out of the system. Voter fraud hurts all of us no matter what party and who commits it. Were this your attitude, you might then stop calling Conservatives racist for pushing Voter ID laws. But we all know why you do it. KRL110. FOX News report with John Fund, someone also unlike Jim, who tends to see the problem in a non-partisan way. Start there. From what I heard, this report is going to be released later in the week?

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getreal 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Mitt Romney's Son Tagg Romney Connected to 2012 Voting Machines

http://current.com/community/93933934_mitt-romneys-son-connected-to-2012-voting-machines.htm

Any part of our voting process should be void of politics. Lee Fang, Contributing Writer at The Nation, joins David to discuss his recent article outlining the extensive ties between Mitt Romney and the voting Machines set to be used in parts of the country on election day.

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getreal 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Skylinepest, You have a lot of nerve giving a Veteran a hard time about voting for Obama, when you support a coward who dodged the draft! Romney marched in favor of the draft then fled to France using his cult as an excuse while the Vietnam war raged on! He stayed there until he was sure his #300 wasn't going to be called, then returned home. How many went in his place and didn't return?? He is a coward, how anyone who has served this country can support him is unbelievable!!

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krl10 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Really Geoff, John Fund, Fox news, non-partisan? You don’t have anything to prove your statement, right? You heard a rumor and repeated it as fact. I was looking for something from Pew Research seeing as how that is who you quoted as your source. Anything?

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Middleman522 6 months, 4 weeks ago

We have soldiers in Libya and we have soldiers in Moore Cty! Doing their jobs! Bold Face liars don't deserve a fair playing feild. 101Jackson are you referencing Dan Rather lies on the W hack? Informed Americans know who's lying, Rev. Wright, Bill Ayres, his parents, transparency, healthscare, our treatment of the rest of the world, Libya security, thoughts and beliefs of Conservatives, gulf drilling! Shall I go on?? Have you read barry's books. Do you believe the crap in his books or the crap he says?? Do you believe the crap he says today or last week? Was it a good idea to throw Libya's and Egypt's leaders out and make no effort to throw Syria's murdering punk out? Pull everyone out of Iraq early and announce a QUITTING date for Afghanistan? Shut down a pipeline, stop Gulf drilling, Pee $90Billion on "green toys" in the name of another liberal lie, Global Warming or Climate Change or whatever convienent name you give TAXES this year!! I just hope Mitt lays a glove on him early and often tonight and ends this joke!!

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Arestorer 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Middleman522; like many others on this site,IMO,you wouldnt vote for Obama,If Romney came out tonight and said he hated the military and America...

Being open-minded is not a fault...Romney may would make a good Pres..But, until we get rid of the dead-wood(career politicians) in the Senate and Congress,NO ONE IS GOING TO WIN ANYTHING...

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Arestorer 6 months, 4 weeks ago

I hate Political signage....But they do make pretty good target material...

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Courseaire 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Arestorer - "But, until we get rid of the dead-wood(career politicians) in the Senate and Congress,NO ONE IS GOING TO WIN ANYTHING..." Amen brother! Incumbents Out!

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geoffcutler 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Hey, krl10? FOX News was the only network to investigate the movie trailer reports out of the White House. So, you call FOX or Fund whatever you want. I call it the only network that actually does a little leg work and reports the news. Not just what's good for Obama's re-election campaign.

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moonchild7 6 months, 4 weeks ago

I can't remember where I read this but it was a short article about the "Security Situation" at the Benghazi Outpost. The "Security" was provided by a small firm from Wales because they were one of the very few companies that the "New" Libyian Govt was allowing to even be in the country. This company, to say the least, was not very good and supposedly they only had flashlights and batons to try to ward off the attackers. The situation was total confusion and no one seemed to know what to do. This does not excuse the long delay in answers but the whole thing is just tragic. I don't know why we are there when there is still so much uncertainty. For "Influence" I guess but still we need to be getting our military out af a lot of the countries we've been in since WWII. Mitt wants to expand the military and he's a huge chickenhawk. How could any military person vote for him? President Obama has a deep regard for our military and looks with great respect to those who served. His Grandfather and Uncle who served in WWII were important influences and some of you should read more about him instead of all of these prejudiced statements.

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Courseaire 6 months, 4 weeks ago

You aren't referring to prejudiced statements like: "Mitt wants to expand the military and he's a huge chickenhawk", are you?

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JimHeim 6 months, 4 weeks ago

dlb - Please learn to read. What I wrote is believed to be factually correct.

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JimHeim 6 months, 4 weeks ago

geoff, Then weed away. But do not remove American citizens from the voter roles just to help your candidate.

And at the moment, all of those arrested lately for registration fraud are working for the Republican Party. Maybe you should start your weeding closer to home.

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JimHeim 6 months, 4 weeks ago

getreal - Queen Ann tells us that being a Mormon missionary is the same as military service. She said she sent her sons out as boys and they returned as men. Pretty cool. I'll bet lots of guys in the Vietnam era would have signed up that job to avoid, you know, getting shot at.

And Mitt himself says that for his sons to serve in his campaign is serving their country. As far a Mittens goes, it must have been harrowing to knock on doors in Paris and suggest that the residents give up wine. I'll bet it was harder on him than anything that happened to one of our troops in Vietnam.

These are real patriots.

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JimHeim 6 months, 4 weeks ago

middleman522 - I don't understand why Mittens will be in the debate tonight since he's promised to outsource our foreign policy to Israel. Netanyahu should be the one answering the questions.

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The_AnonymusProfit 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Hey Jim you dont get it do you/? no one listens to what you say, you lost any credibility a long time ago.

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geoffcutler 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Jim, this a perfect opportunity to be nonpartisan and maybe even not quite such an ass. But that's not possible for you, is it? Here's a subject that both Republican and Democrat alike should be able to agree on. But you can't, because if voter rolls were cleaned up, your party would be put out of business for good, and you know it. So, go ahead, call people racists when they bring up Voter ID laws and cleaning up the rolls. We see you, Jim, and know what you're up to.

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Thatcher 6 months, 4 weeks ago

geoff and TAP-- Pay no attention to JimHeim...he's harmless. Cheers!

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geoffcutler 6 months, 4 weeks ago

He's not harmless. He's infecting voters right here in Moore County, who would be better served by someone else. But on here, I guess you're right. Better to ignore him.

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krl10 6 months, 4 weeks ago

So what Geoff is saying is that 3 million people are planning to commit voter fraud by voting twice, and his evidence of this is John Fund reporting on Fox News. He believes this because, as he says, “I call it the only network that actually does a little leg work and reports the news.” The problem for me is that story is based on a “report (that) is going to be released later in the week?” What he is saying I guess, and I can only speculate on this, is that John Fund is clairvoyant. Geoff cites Pew Research as the soon to be, but not quite yet source of this shocking, non verifiable, news. This has been a good laugh. Here is a Pew Research link:

http://www.pewstates.org/research/analysis/election-fraud-85899414756

It is a simple chart. It states that Pew only found 2068 cases of voter fraud since 2000.

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dlb 6 months, 4 weeks ago

North Carolina

JH, from the Washington Post

In-person early voting began on Thursday, which has allowed Democrats to gain a lead. While the GOP led significantly on absentee ballots, adding early in-person voting has tilted the scales to a 51 percent-to-31 percent Democratic lead.

We should note, though, that many of these may be conservative Democrats voting for Romney (more than 20 percent of Democratic primary voters, for instance, voted for “uncommitted” over Obama in the primary), and Democrats won the early vote by almost the exact same margin — 51-30 — in 2008.

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geoffcutler 6 months, 4 weeks ago

No krl, that's not what I said. The report on this morning's news was that there are 3 million voters who are at least doubled registered. That's all. Fund said on the program that a report of the research is going to be released. What's your problem with this? No accusations were made about who takes advantage of being double or triple registered. The report didn't accuse either Republicans or Democrats of abusing the system. What are you scared of?

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skylinefirepest 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Getreal, I don't know where that came from....I have never heard it before which is strange considering the vitriol with which the Dems have labeled everything Conservative to be evil. Are you sure you're not confusing Mitt Romney with Bill Clinton, who actively evaded the draft and was proud of it??? Now since you have said that, have you seen obumma's service record or his DD214??? You haven't?? Well, nobody else has either! He has not served and I have no idea where you get this crap from that he loves the military...I guess he loves them enough that sending form letters to the families of those who have lost their lives in the service of his country doesn't bother him at all!!!

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Middleman522 6 months, 4 weeks ago

101Jackson... I was bringing up Dan Rather's attempt to sway that election with forged docs about Bush. The rest was about Oblaima and why those signs might have vanished. It was not aimed at you!! I was trying to define a liar only. Sorry it came off toward you. Was not meant to!!

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Middleman522 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Arestorer, I already know Oblaima hates this country's successful people and heroes, and that's all I need to know. Mitt is not perfect but the best choice this economy and world policy has right now. And you are right, I would vote for Elmer Fudd over Barry and The Radicals!~!

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phstresident 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Where's Ross Perot when we need him? :-)

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Nezumi 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Skyline - he had 4 deferments, 3 for academic reasons, 1 for his missionary work in France. Interesting article in NYT: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/12/us/politics/at-stanford-romney-stood-ground-on-vietnam.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

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Middleman522 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Moonchild Oblaima did not even know what Memorial Day meant. Are you kidding me he honors our service people. Form letters copied and signed to parents of fallen heroes?? Calling Fort Hood a "Workplace violence" accurance? Telling Afghanistan when we're leaving so we have to shoot our way out? Which of these are respectful to our Military??

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Middleman522 6 months, 4 weeks ago

101jackson, Heim loves being lied too even about the hand washing. You see who he votes for!! He's the Dem's leader here in Moore. Now you see why so many offices elude his party!!

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Thatcher 6 months, 4 weeks ago

geoff (1 hour, 23 min. ago)-- I suspect that he is only infecting himself. He is certainly not affecting opinion, other than in a negative way for Democrats. I say he should post more. It helps people make up their mind. Cheers!

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geoffcutler 6 months, 4 weeks ago

I suspect you're right, T. But then, you usually are.

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moonchild7 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Definition of a chickenhawk from the Urban Dictionary, Courseaire: " A polititian or other person who promotes war without having had any personal experience of it, especially those who have avoided the experience." So I made a factual statement, not a prejudiced statement. Does anyone know if any Mormons have ever served in our military, voluntarily? Does Mitt even have any relatives who were in the military? None of his sons have served and Ann equates her sons religious missionary work as the same as serving in our military? Wow, rather startingly ignorant, perverse, selfish, self-rightious, dumb, sick, and dangerous from my perspective. The religious cult that is Mormonism is a brainwashing powerhouse and some of you guys are going to vote for this maniac? Mitt was trying to convert Parisians to the Mormon Cult instead of serving in Vietnam? But his wife claims that misssionary work turns boys into men? And you are terrified if President Obama wins a second term? You are a bunch of know-nothings...but I challenge you to change that moniker.

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Thatcher 6 months, 4 weeks ago

I cannot change that moniker. Nor can anyone else. You win. Cheers!

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JD 6 months, 4 weeks ago

He, like Clinton, didn't serve and doesn't have a high opinion of those who have and do. Therefore a vote from a veteran for obumma doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense.

Like Romney served, or his 5 boys, or that Romney protested for Vietnam and then ran off to bicycle in France. Doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense. But it's ok because if you work on a political campaign for your dad that's just like serving in the military.

Edit: List of politicians with actively serving children. Source USA Today

Sen. Kit Bond, R-Mo. Sam Bond, Marine Corps, Iraq.

Sen. Tim Johnson, D-S.D. Brooks Johnson, Army, Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sen. James Webb, D-Va. Jimmy Webb, Marine Corps, Iraq.

Rep. Todd Akin, R-Mo. Perry Akin, Marine Corps, Iraq.

Rep. Jo Ann Emerson, R-Mo. Stepdaughter Jessica Gladney, Army, Iraq; Stepson Sam Gladney, Army, Iraq.

Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Ca. Duncan D. Hunter, Marine Corps, Iraq.

Rep. John Kline, R-Minn. Dan Kline, Army, Iraq and Afghanistan.

Rep. Ike Skelton, D-Mo. Two sons in military. Citing privacy concerns, Skelton's office does not disclose names or assignments.

Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C. Addison Wilson, Navy, Iraq; Alan Wilson, Army, Iraq.

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krl10 6 months, 4 weeks ago

No Goeff, this is what you said:

geoffcutler 11 hours, 13 minutes ago Stolen/damaged signs? Pfft! That's nothing. Pew Research is releasing data that 3 million people are registered to vote...at least twice, and do. They move to a new state, don't tell their election commission. They vote in person in their new state, and cast an absentee ballot in their old state. Voter fraud. There's the real disturbing sign of the times. Perhaps I misread this, but it sounds like you are presenting this as verified fact. Can you tell me how I should have understood this statement because it doesn’t sound anything like your recent post: “No krl, that's not what I said. The report on this morning's news was that there are 3 million voters who are at least doubled registered. That's all.” Anyway, this is where you took this off thread for me. I’m still amused by your dissembling though.

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geoffcutler 6 months, 4 weeks ago

krl...do you see Democrat or Republican in the comment? Yes, you're right, but the point is, the report didn't pin it on Democrats. It just pointed out that three million people in the USA are registered to vote more than once and how they take advantage of it. If Republicans are voting twice, then that needs to stop. Feel better?

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The_AnonymusProfit 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Hey moon what are you gonna do when your whole world falls apart on Nov 7th?

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JD 6 months, 4 weeks ago

A Disturbing Sign of the Times. Happened a long long time ago when I grew up and someone had the nerve to say Mr. Rogers was an evil man. Enjoy anons.

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nothingspecial 6 months, 4 weeks ago

I have served in the Army with many Mormons. WITHOUT exception they were extremely smart, very self controlled, yet calm, and devoted to their families and other soldiers.

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The_AnonymusProfit 6 months, 4 weeks ago

There is a very simple fix for voter fraud. VOTER ID REQUIREMENTS. I wonder when they will get to that..

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JimHeim 6 months, 4 weeks ago

TAP - There is no voter fraud. It's a figment of your imagination. Photo ID is not a fix. It's about preventing as many African-Americans from voting for Democrats as possible.

If you want to prevent registration fraud, be my guest. I'm sure most Democrats will join you.

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JimHeim 6 months, 4 weeks ago

dlb, my figures included absentee ballots.

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The_AnonymusProfit 6 months, 4 weeks ago

@JimHeim

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, lmfao

On the Debate, if all Romney needed to do was prove he could lead, well he took care of that in the first 5 minutes,

I dont think you can "win" a foreign policy debate

Go team Romney!

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packwilleat 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Watching these two talk about foreign policy is like watching Helen Keller play chess.

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Thatcher 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Great job Mitt!! Take us over the top! Cheers!

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moonchild7 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Wow...I think in order to "WIN" a debate you have to state your differences and prove them. Mitt not only DIDN'T state his differences or prove them. He AGREED with the President on almost everything. Loser, Loser, Loser. CBS' quick poll show's the President wins 55% to 23%. Neat. Profitman, go back under your rock. Tonight we didn't get the Hawk, but we most certainly got the Chicken. Unbelievable. Loser.

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Thatcher 6 months, 4 weeks ago

MC7-- Didn't CBS proclaim Obama the winner of the last debate? How'd that work out? Cheers!

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The_AnonymusProfit 6 months, 4 weeks ago

krauthammer gives Romney a "clear win" that makes the Romney Team 4 - 0

Has that ever happened before?

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The_AnonymusProfit 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Ohio intrader odds for obama drop 6 points to 51 only moments after debate wraps up.

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krl10 6 months, 4 weeks ago

I have made no mention of democrats or republicans: no distinctions, no assumptions. And no, that is not the point. Your as hard to nail down as Romney.

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Yukonjohn 6 months, 4 weeks ago

l find it rather funny. Up here, where we try and do everything "different" than down there, we MUST show ID to vote. They look and make sure we are in the correct polling place, make sure if we are in a different polling district that we vote a "questioned ballot" that does count, but is scrutinized. I just find that interesting, and that is from a bunch of folks that don't like to show our ID to anyone!!

After watching the debate, l found it a draw...to possibly the President getting the edge if there was a winner.

Hey Thatcher, hope you are well buddy, we almost hit 15 below this morning, but it stopped dropping at -13!! Winter is coming for north America!!

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Courseaire 6 months, 4 weeks ago

MC7 calls Obama a loser by saying Mitt agrees with him: Mitt not only DIDN'T state his differences or prove them. He AGREED with the President on almost everything. Loser, Loser, Loser She also has been accusing the Rich & Republicans of being Warmongers, yet she discounts Mitt & Boys service to humanity through peaceful means. Chickenhawk - the only bird that scares Foghorn Leghorn, I say, I say.

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dlb 6 months, 4 weeks ago

There may be something to "you can't reason with a liberal".

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moonchild7 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Mitt Romney is not a loser because he agreed with The President but because he has changed his "Platform" so many times. The "Somewhat Liberal Republican" that Mitt Romney used to be could have possibly won the election but he won't now. He has "Re-Etched his Sketch" too many times now and therefore he LOST the debate and that makes him a "Debate Loser". He went from warmonger to getting on the PEACE TRAIN? Now Mitt wants a "PEACEFUL PLANET?" I also don't discount the Romneys "service" to humanity through peaceful means, as you see it Courseaire. Religious Missionary Work while rooted in most peoples minds as being a "peaceful endeavor" always has an "ulterior motive". That of course is to get those being exposed to the rhetoric to turn themselves over to the rhetoric. I once had two Mormon Missionaries on their bikes stop by my house as I was gardening in the front yard. I challenged them on their beliefs and rhetoric and to say the least those two boys left my yard mumbling. Doing good should only have one goal and that is for doing good and not to change any persons religious beliefs. Mormon Missionaries don't do that. Do they have women missionaries? I've never seen any....do they stay at church and wash the boys clothes?

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The_AnonymusProfit 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Moonpie moonpie moonpie, your like the little kid that just keeps sticking the fork in the socket.

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Middleman522 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Mitt could have wiped the stage with the Liar Barry if he was from Chicago. But he's not a punk and every American with ANY common sense knows that Barry and the Radicals are driving us off of a cliff! Lying about what happened in Libya is just the latest lie. "You must be clear with your intentions in the MiddleEast"...... "We're leaving in 2014 al quida, so just hang on til then!!" That's pretty clear that our heroes will have to shoot their way out of that hell hole!! "I killed Bin Ladin".... He tried to convict the CIA agents that got the intel to find Bin ladin and then claims credit! "I ended the Iraq War." He voted against every portion of that deal and the fighting was pretty much over when his 4 year party started! He then pulled out too early, sorta like Slick Willie and the Blue Dress!! lol Moon, Have you tried medication?? And Heim when did you go from being a Democrat to being a Progressive? Do you remember?? Was it trama or drugs that pushed you over the edge??

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teufelhunden 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Obama had zero foreign policy experience and zero governing experience when he took office. Apparently you all think his on-the-job-training is enough. Keep in mind he has many advisors. Romney has tons of experience as a successful businessman and governor. That's enough for me.

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teufelhunden 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Geez moon you sound so intolerant. Maybe it stems from your obvious disdain for Romney. You've lost a lot of credibility right there.

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teufelhunden 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Am i missing something? When did Obama serve?

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Courseaire 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Baskin-Robbins 1974

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moonchild7 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Haven't lost my credibility because I stick to my principles and beliefs...unlike Mitt Romney. Intolerant? Just because I so whole heartedly disagree with Romney and his NeoConMen? Besides since when was I for Romney? A person doesn't have to have served in the military to undersatnd the military but when someone decides that they want to be Commander in Chief they at least need to get busy educating themselves so they better understand America's History, Principles, and the lives of the men and women who serve. ChickenHawkitis won't get it. Romney's "advisor's" are the same ones who "advised" Bush and Cheney. Are we going backwards or forwards? I guess we'll find out on Nov. 6th. I'm hoping for the best but prepared for the worst. American's don't seem to be able to think for themselves or even understand when they're being lied to. My brother usually calls me in the morning after the debates to let me know how Romney won but this time he hasn't called at all. Wonder why?

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Courseaire 6 months, 4 weeks ago

He's probably still ROTFL at "horses and bayonets" and can't dial the phone.

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The_AnonymusProfit 6 months, 4 weeks ago

"you lost alot of credibility there"

Dude, moon never had any to begin with.

Moon makes Chris Matthews look normal.

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marathonman 6 months, 4 weeks ago

to moonie and others who wish to make a big deal of whether or not Mormons serve their country; they are actively recruited by the CIA since they can pass polygraph and are loyal Americans as anyone who carries a weapon. The chose not to carry a weapon and serve in that capacity, but will lay down their life othewise. Give me 100 Mormons over anyone who has never served their country in any capacity; we all are better served by sending Obama and his Cabal back to Chicago and then contain them until we can reverse their thought process!

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marathonman 6 months, 4 weeks ago

to all who listen to Heim and Rhoades, I agree with whomever said; let them talk since they have marginalized themselves and noone, repeat noone, takes what they say seriously. Maybe for a good belly laugh at their audacity to lie with a straight face and then attempt to justify it with other lies and out of context snippets from the internet.

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geoffcutler 6 months, 4 weeks ago

This is too weird. Anyone else notice that Lefties have no trouble calling anyone who disagrees with them racists, but it's even easier for them to be derogatory about someone's religion? Unless, of course you're talking about Islam and say American Muslims building mosques next to the sight of the 9/11 attacks. Or you want to defend a murdering terrorist at Fort Hood by saying immediately following the slayings, "let's not jump to any conclusions." Oh no, that's something different and you're a racist and a bigot if you don't tow the leftie line on that religion. But if you're a Mormon, an Israeli or Christian...well...that's something else entirely, and it's open season on them any time, any place. Too strange,.. no?

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teufelhunden 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Courseaire - you ain't right ;) LOL

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Courseaire 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Besides, any man that can live & survive with more than 1 wife has got to be one tough dude.

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The_AnonymusProfit 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Obama slips below 60% on intrade quote for first time since election season started.

Obama has slipped from 68% two weeks ago to 58% a 10% drop in 2 weeks, he has also slipped 2.7% since last night.

Wow

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JimHeim 6 months, 4 weeks ago

dlb - Your Washington Post quote is incorrect. There is no evidence that 20% of Democrats voted uncommitted instead of Obama.

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JimHeim 6 months, 4 weeks ago

So you agree with Queen Ann that for her sons to put in missionary work for their church is equivalent to military service for the country? Really?

Do you agree with Mitt that working on his campaign is service to the nation just like military service? Really?

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JimHeim 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Oh look, another Republican arrested in Virginia for voter registration fraud. Of course, that's in no way like the mythical voter fraud we keep hearing about but don't see any examples of.

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teufelhunden 6 months, 4 weeks ago

That's Lord Mitt to you, underling!

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JimHeim 6 months, 4 weeks ago

teufelhunden - So he thinks!

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The_AnonymusProfit 6 months, 4 weeks ago

I would rather have Lord Mitt then the Anointed One

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skylinefirepest 6 months, 4 weeks ago

JD, what, if any, was your point about the list of pols who have served?? Romney didn't? Obama didn't?? You didn't?? What is your point??

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fugitiveguy 6 months, 4 weeks ago

"Oh look, another Republican arrested in Virginia for voter registration fraud."

So, are you saying you are beginning to see the need for voter ID?

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Thatcher 6 months, 4 weeks ago

fugitiveguy-- You are only confusing JimHeim. Cheers!

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geoffcutler 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Yeah, I thought Heim and the rest of the Democrats said there was no voter fraud so no need for Voter ID laws. Bet he'd change his tune and drop the racist nonsense if the Republicans frauded their way to a win over Obama.

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Thatcher 6 months, 4 weeks ago

geoff-- I suspect that JimHeim will never drop the racist nonsense. Cheers!

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JD 6 months, 4 weeks ago

What is your point??

It was a list of pols with currently serving children btw. You often ostracize and belittle those that have not served in the armed forces. My point is you overlook this defining point of patriotism in your often stated opinion when it is a candidate you favor. You belittled another Vet because they had democratic leanings.

Your rage tantrums and hissy fits show your bias and that you're just trolling. You showed you don't respect opinions that differs even if it is from someone else who served in the armed forces.

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MikeNC 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Moonchild makes Chris Matthews look normal: thanks for a good laugh on this thread, Tap. Diane

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moonchild7 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Thanks Profitman for the compliment. I relish in my unique personality just as much I'm sure that Chris Matthews does in his. Geoff, Geoff, Geoff. What is it about what I say that you have such difficulty understanding. My "Anti-Religion" stance has more to do with the Lies and Hypocricy that they ALL seem to embrace. I have stated that I am not against any religion having the right to exist and "practice what they preach" so to speak. But I do not like the Self-Rightiousness that tends to be a common trademark of such organizations. Including Muslims, Mormons, Jews and Christians. Who's defending the Ft Hood Shooter, Geoff? You're the strange one Geoff. And I thought you were supposed to be smart.

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The_AnonymusProfit 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Moon, simply because one speaks about heaven does not make them self righteous, infact, the self righteous crowd is mostly on the left.

Were the good guys.

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JeremyG 6 months, 4 weeks ago

Romney's position is whatever sounds good at the moment. He even contradicted himself within 7 minutes at the 2nd debate when he said he would create 12 million jobs only to then claim government doesn't create jobs. So which is it? And if government doesn't create jobs how would Obama be to blame for poor jobs numbers?

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fugitiveguy 6 months, 4 weeks ago

The funniest part of last nights debate was Obama pontificating how his plan is the better of the two to balance the budget considering he has not only never balanced a budget during his term but in fact has run deficits of a 1T each of his 4 years and is projected to do the same for each of the next 4.

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geoffcutler 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Moon, thanks again for not using the all caps. Makes you easier to read.

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LSM 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Fugitiveguy, I thought the funniest part (if one can call it funny) of the debate was when Obama realized he is not the smartest person in the room, and got so angry. I guess if this is how he acts around other World Leaders it is the reason none visit such as Chancellor Merkel of Germany and David Cameron of Great Britain. The only fact Obama has run on is that he is President and Mitt Romney is not.

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skylinefirepest 6 months, 3 weeks ago

JD, you didn't bother to read my further comments did you?? Yes, I put a lot of respect into the veterans side...but a veteran voting for a man who DOESN'T LIKE THE MILITARY is weird, to say the least. A VN veteran who favors obumma who sends form letters to the families of the military heroes is weird!! Yes, I favor vets strongly over those who haven't bothered to serve. I do respect others' opinions but I also reserve the right, that we put in time for, to argue with them. The difference is that we respect each other while we have no respect for the Heims, etc., who put party ahead of country.

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teufelhunden 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Obama's real record on Israel By Anne Bayefsky

Published October 23, 2012 FoxNews.com

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/10/23/obama-real-record-on-israel/#ixzz2AEKwS3AI

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