GOP Actions Have Been Un-American

skylinefirepest 7 months ago

Frank, give us a break dude....you KNOW that obama had a little over two full years that he could do any damn thing he wanted to do and nobody could stop him!! Be honest...if he hadn't been so dead set on passing ( with NO Republican input, by the way ) a health program that most of the country did not want, or need, he could have done good for the country. Instead he turned out to be arrogant, self centered, ( ref: he thought he won the debate ) an apologist for the country, and wanted to fundamentally change this, the greatest country on the face of the earth, into a third world entity...which to the tune of NO JOBS and SIX TRILLION in new spending he has done. It is critical that we get this incompetent liar out of the White House. BTW, Romney has not insulted the forty seven percent...he simply told the truth. And if obama had been in any way competent there would be jobs for the people and there wouldn't BE 47% of the people in this shape. And bear in mind that there is a goodly percentage that are fully capable of working and choose not to do so! Even if the Dems had worked to create jobs!! In terms of Iraq certainly you are aware that over a metric ton of yellowcake was found??

dustyrhoades 7 months ago

Tell it, brother Frank! Tell it!

geoffcutler 7 months ago

Racism. That's it! The gig's up. They've really got us now. Darn!.

dustyrhoades 7 months ago

Nope, no racism in the GOP, none at all.

MikeNC 7 months ago

Hey Frank: Is it the sugar free Kool Aid or the original Kool Aid, that brings out the best in you? Diane

Toda 7 months ago

Sometimes the truth slaps you in the face, but it seems flagrant with impunity when no one sees the achievements of the Obama Administration. Two years is not long enough under a democratic congress to clean up 8 years of Bushes mess.

One has to wonder why those on these boards fail to realize it takes at least 7 years to overcome bankruptcy ... the Hedgefund Profiteers like Romney and his son Tagg are on the same course as the Bush administration. If the 47% is not benefiting from the trickle down effect now, if Romney is elected, the he will invoke the trickle up effect lining the pockets of his wealthy corporate friends who have profited from sending jobs to China.

One company in particular is IYOGI, an India based technology company framed under the Bain model for capturing every american job from software, hardware (computer companies), mortgages, while the list goes on and on. You can thank Romney and Bain Capital.

packwilleat 7 months ago

From judging by the comments on here, it's apparent neither side understands what Americanism is.

dustyrhoades 7 months ago

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kzowens 7 months ago

Frank, You have described the situation clearly and accurately. Today’s Republican Party has become a party of opportunists who do not understand the concept of democracy. Not only that, they absolutely ignore everything that former President Bush did. Either that or they have selective amnesia. And Dusty, you have shown the problem that the Republicans really have with President Obama.

packwilleat 7 months ago

Let's not forget liberals exploiting emotions and selling everything with a dash of sensationalism.

Toda 7 months ago

Right Dusty ~ No Racism ... by Tommy Davis

Toda 7 months ago

No ID ~ no vote! Even though the Constitution doesn't address voter ID ... it's still one person - one vote!

Toda 7 months ago

Skyline you continue to post your biased number, " SIX TRILLION in new spending he has done". That is not true! Which part of two wars that was not on the books did you miss? Go back and read my previous threads with links so perhaps you might have a better understanding and grasp on factual information.

Geezzzz stop with the six trillion message of the uninformed....

geoffcutler 7 months ago

"The entire Republican Party has been in a conspiracy to make him fail. They blatantly stated that their goal was to get him out of office, no matter what. What is that? It’s unheard of. It’s un-American. It reeks of one thing only, racism." Mr. Lisco

Steve, what possible reason could the paper have for thinking this might generate civil debate? Does The Pilot agree that the entire Republican party must be racist, therefore their objection to Obama? There has been hand-wringing regarding this site to the point that The Pilot has a "Terms of Use" policy and will scrub or remove comments that it deems inappropriate. Isn't this type of letter just a springboard for what the Pilot says it hopes to avoid? All Republicans must be racist? Do you believe that?

dustyrhoades 7 months ago

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The_AnonymusProfit 7 months ago

Man O man, I tell you what, this is an indictment if I ever heard one, Huh? what was that LBJ? "Ill have those n!g***s voting for you for 200 years" (Quote from LBJ After signing GOP created Civil rights act)

Sigh, its amazing how the party of Racism (IE the democratic party) has become, well, the party of Racism.

Yet the GOP gets blamed. You just cant make this stuff up.

geoffcutler 7 months ago

And just look at one of your lead columnists. He's sees this as red meat and goes after it like a rabid dog. Is it any wonder that these threads have led you to too often having to shut them down and send him to go sit in the corner and face the wall? I don't think you'll see this type of letter published in serious newspapers.This has just become a joke.

skylinefirepest 7 months ago

Tommy, apparently I am much better informed than you would seem to realize...yes, SIX TRILLION in NEW, I repeat for your edification, NEW, spending. Can't blame it on Bush, who has been gone out of office for four years now, you do realize?? Obama is a loser and a liar and it is critical to the well being of the nation to get his sorry lying butt out of the White House.

coffecreme 7 months ago

Tell em Frank!

Mark106 7 months ago

Blacks can call on ALL Blacks to vote for a black man but if a white man called on all whites it would be racism. DR you make me sick!

PBinNC 7 months ago

I'll be glad when this election is over and we can get back to hating each other for different reasons. No wonder no one can agree on anything. I think the president should have one term of six years so he doesn't spent the first four years running for re-election. I think term limits for Congress should be imposed. I think the tax laws should be re-written to be no more than 10 pages long. Start with those, they do tread on a lot of toes!

packwilleat 7 months ago

Stop pandering to the leftist poo stirring. Y'all keep falling for it time and time again.

Thatcher 7 months ago

This thread is...sad.

The_AnonymusProfit 7 months ago

As a PREVIOUS Pilot Employee, let me say that if you want to see racism, just visit the Pilot. I can still remember working in the wee hours off the morning with wonderful people, every now and then David Warnoff would walk through the printing area, it was like watching a plantation owner surveying his fields and making sure his "workers" were doing what they were supposed to be doing.

justpassingby2 7 months ago

Dusty. either do something for minorities in your nicely segregated Moore County or lay off the racism crap. You look like the biggest dummy to ever walk the earth. For every stupid pic of racism that you post, one could post a pic of biden or obama or the Occupiers and declare like you, no stupidity in the democratic party. Get off your lazy arse and do something about the racism in your own backyard. We love laughing at you and jimmyh but it is sad if you really think anybody doesn't realize that your lack of actions speak much louder than your ridiculous words and pics for that matter.

MikeNC 7 months ago

Geoff...Don't expect to get a response from Steve or any staff member about these racist comments and disgusting photos that DR is posting here. After all was it not Dusty who said something to the effect..."I totally agree that the Right would cheerfully put black people back in chains to keep them from voting. But they can't do that, so they try to suppress their votes any other way they can."

He also went on to say..."Now THAT's entertainment, page clicks on the website, and eyeballs on the printed page." I reckon The Pilot staff agrees....Mike

Stillhope 7 months ago

It's funny that the Democrats don't remember the vitriol that they felt toward Bush when he was in office and the bumper stickers that they designed and proudly attached to their cars, denegrating him as our President. Now that the roles are reversed, they can't take it. Bunch of thin-skinned lefties. Turnabout is fair play.

skylinefirepest 7 months ago

Tommy, I hate to tell you but Iraq and Afghanistan were not "black ops" . For your information, as you do seem not to know, the media covered both wars extensively. The six trill is in NEW spending by your idol obumma. I don't know for the life of me why you bothered to run for office on a Republican ticket...you are no more Conservative or Republican than Dusty R!!!

dustyrhoades 7 months ago

Looks like the GOP crybabies are in full voice today. "Whaaa Whaaa Whaaa, why won't they do something about Dusty calling us racists? Waaaah! Why'd they let someone write a letter calling us racists? Waaaaah!"

Face it, the Republican Party is riddled with racism, and will continue to be so long as you keep denying there's a problem and engaging in PeeWeeism. It's why Mittens is polling at ZERO among African Americans.

geoffcutler 7 months ago

It would appear The Pilot agrees with you.

AFCHIEF 7 months ago

FRANKIE boy your obamanation is the one who is unamerican and Unpatriotic!

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=3CMy2M32g4k&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D3CMy2M32g4k

dustyrhoades 7 months ago

It would appear The Pilot agrees with you.

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dustyrhoades 7 months ago

Rick Santorum: "I don't want to make black people's lives better by giving them money..."

Racist Rick Santorum: "I don't want to make black peoples lives better" by Angel Clark

And if you believe him when he says he was saying 'blah" people, then you really will believe anything. Because nobody talks like that.

dustyrhoades 7 months ago

And now, disgraced Republican governor Mark "Appalachian Trail" Sanford--now a talking head on Fox News (of course) says "Obama's going to come out throwing a lot of spears in the next debate."

Nope, no racist allusions there.

dustyrhoades 7 months ago

Jason Thompson, the son of former Governor and Wisconsin Senate candidate Tommy Thompson, speaking this morning at a brunch attended RNC Chairman Reince Priebus said that “we have the opportunity to send President Obama back to Chicago — or Kenya.”

Nope, don't see any racism there, no sirree.

PBinNC 7 months ago

The Pilot should require you to be 18 or older to post comments. Some of this is so childish I would think the one who writes and puts up pictures/posters wears diapers - Pampers, not Depends.

Thatcher 7 months ago

Is Bill Clinton "disgraced?" When he accused Obama of "playing the race card," what did you think about that? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbKzhY.... Was Clinton right? Wrong? Or did he remain, in your eyes, "disgraced" by cheating on his wife? Did Clinton "grow" by calling out Obama on racism? Or was Clinton a racist for doing so? I have no idea what the answers are, since I'm not a liberal. Please let us know. Cheers!

Toda 7 months ago

Skyline ~ why not Google some facts before posting. what happened to the billions Bush left off the books, and are the costs of Bushes wars still mounting NEW debt?

So what does a "conservative" act like ~ Glenn Beck or Michael Savage? As I've said before, I am an independent thinker who doesn't subscribe to agreeing with people who could care less about those Americans living on the margins of society.

Thatcher 7 months ago

Golly I'm confused. Is Mark Sanford more "disgraced" than Bill Clinton is "disgraced?" And of the two (Sanford and Clinton), which one accused Obama of playing the race card? Monica hates racists. Cheers!

justpassingby2 7 months ago

Ole dusty just has to be the the biggest idiot on these boards, he demands it be so, and by golly it is! He can't defend obama's record, ole dusty not talking polls after obama and biden did a perfect impression of dumb and dumber, so I guess racism is all he has left. Face it, everyone knows that you only play the race card as a last resort.

justpassingby2 7 months ago

Bush's wars ended 4 years ago, they are now obama's wars. Just like the bush tax breaks for the rich which are now the obama tax breaks for the rich. Just like bush's reprehensible No Child Left Behind is now obama's reprehensible No Child Left Behind. Catching on toda? Bush's $3 a gallon gas is now obama's $4 a gallon gas. Got it toda?

Ever come up with that list of the things that made you despise bush that obama has changed? Don't feel bad toda, neither has any other liberal on here! lol

fugitiveguy 7 months ago

The only talking point the letter writer missed is that he has always voted Republican until now. If all I knew was that Toda, DR, Jim Heim and Moon supported Obama I would know all I needed to vote against him. 6t in new debt, unforgivable, covering up Libya murders to stay in office unforgiveable. Send this clown packing.

GJohn 7 months ago

Frank, your letter is spot on! Isn't it amazing how the GOP thinks that our economic situation just showed up at the same time Obama did? In fact, they may think he brought it with him. No, dears, it was created during the 8 years that Bush was in the White House. You don't fix something like that overnight...or even in 4 years. That's why we need 4 more years...4 more years...4 more years!

jat 7 months ago

The GOP doesn't want to leave Iraq so you really can't blame that one on Obama. In fact, I'm willing to bet that if Romney wins we will be in Syria or Libya in the next four years. Obama provided a jobs package that was voted out by the Republicans, so we will never know if that worked. More importantly, if you want jobs; then the facts are obvious.The Republicans have held the white house for 28 years in the last 52 and produce 24 million jobs; the Democrats have over scene the creation of 42 million jobs.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/sep/06/bill-clinton/bill-clinton-says-democratic-presidents-top-republ/

As the Romney camp likes to elude to: Let the facts not stand in our way.

Finally if you truly believe Obama's at fault, by all means vote against him. But also do everything you can to vote out the Republicans in the state Senate and House. They have held absolute control based on the number of vetoes and North Carolina is proudly in the top ten for unemployment in the nation.

Courseaire 7 months ago

As a 100% true blue, full-blooded un-American racist, I want to know how they found out about our conspiracy. I'll bet it was that turncoat videographer that taped Romney's 47% talk.

The_AnonymusProfit 7 months ago

Good response jpb

fugitiveguy 7 months ago

Frank, your letter is spot on! Isn't it amazing how the GOP thinks that our economic situation just showed up at the same time Obama did?

isn't amazing how the libs keep dredging up the past instead of focusing on the present and the future. Not to mention the strawmen they keep stumbling over. Dumb!

Toda 7 months ago

JPB ~ have you suffered from jet lag, or social awareness? "Bush's wars ended 4 years ago, they are now obama's wars."

When did POTUS'O start a war? What you and others fail to understand, Bush didn't list the cost of HIS wars in the GDP. Obviously you are living in a time warp ....

fugitiveguy "...keep dredging up the past instead of focusing on the present".

You are right ~ those pallets of money dropped from the back of C-130's to pay off the Taliban under bush shouldn't have any impact on national debt....

Toda 7 months ago

It wasn't me ... it was my financial planner who was looking out for my future! by Tommy Davis

Bush's $3 a gallon gas is now obama's $4 a gallon gas. Got it toda? Yep!

JimHeim 7 months ago

'Ole dusty just has to be the the biggest idiot on these boards...'

Really? I am so jealous.

Still, our new Republican Party needs a new symbol. I continue to suggest a fainting couch. Pearls to clutch would be a nice touch. It would be tough to find a whinier, thinner-skinned bunch.

krl10 7 months ago

I think Bill Maher suggested that all Republicans can’t be said to be racists, but if you are a racist, you are probably a Republican. I would not suggest that this statement is correct; there is however a study to be done:

Noluv4thugs: “Pinehurst is right next to Taylortown. Maybe you don’t realize it but there are more than a few unsavory people from around there. Republican or Democrat?

Behan: “…, but there are at least two dozen piles of human trash within a five mile radius of your house that would shoot you in the face for three dollars if provided the opportunity.” Republican or Democrat?

Skylinefirepest: “Extremely well said Behan.” Republican or Democrat?

Fugitiveguy: “Behan, good article.” Republican or Democrat?

Geoffcutler: “Smooth, Behan. Like a sharp knife through soft butter.” Republican or Democrat?

I would also suggest that Sky does a comparative study of the media coverage of Vietnam and Iraq/Afghanistan.

geoffcutler 7 months ago

Ooh, I guess I didn't see that comment when I made mine. Thanks for pointing it out. I wouldn't have said what I did if I'd seen it. Not good! Independent. But no matter how hard we try to pin racism on all Republicans, it simply isn't true. Racism comes in all stripes, all colors, all political parties.

JD 7 months ago

I guess I didn't see that comment when I made mine. Thanks for pointing it out. I wouldn't have said what I did if I'd seen it. Not good!

by JD

geoffcutler 7 months ago

I don't expect you to believe what I said, even though I thanked krl10 for pointing it out to me. But, that why you're JD.

MikeNC 7 months ago

krl10...A 'person' with a total of three posts over his entire existence of a few months...but yet has been conducting a 'study' and has quotes coveniently stashed away for this particular thread where DR has been the one to play the race card over and over. Here be one of many computer hard drive monikers who conveniently comes to life when some support is needed and cannot be found from real people. Here's a question....Who is it that we know that has boasted over and over about the many posts by conservatives he has copied to bring out on a day when needed. Hint...the same person who over and over states how Cowardly it is to use monikers and pseudonymns. Another hint...the same individual who has been busted by the Pilot staff for the use of such monikers and was forced into 'retiring' them...Mike

teufelhunden 7 months ago

The Democratic Party has lost its mind and its way By Michael Goodwin

Published October 15, 2012 New York Post

skylinefirepest 7 months ago

GJohn....four more years?? After SIX TRILLION and NO JOBS in the first four??? What, are you out of your freaking mind??? Krl10...suppose you tell me any time that I have ever posted anything racist...anything?? You're just more lib name calling in the manner of DR.

krl10 7 months ago

Behan: “…, but there are at least two dozen piles of human trash within a five mile radius of your house that would shoot you in the face for three dollars if provided the opportunity.” Republican or Democrat?

Skylinefirepest: “Extremely well said Behan.” Republican or Democrat?

GJohn 7 months ago

Read this: Death by Ideology, NY Times. Scary.link text

teufelhunden 7 months ago

Sometime the truth ain't what people want to hear but it's still the truth.

packwilleat 7 months ago

So the exploitation of minorities to advance political agendas is honorable?? Gotta love these all caring liberals.

geoffcutler 7 months ago

Succinct... and right to the truth.

nothingspecial 7 months ago

Frank you and your party are using racism to manipulate and gain power, pure and simple. Not everyone is fooled. And by the way, the economic numbers in 2010 were worse than 2009, the numbers were worse in 2011 than 2010 and worse in 2012 than 2011. Where do you get the idea that we are lying when we claim folks aren't better off now than 4 years ago?!? Please start reading.

CC85 7 months ago

When are the Republicans going to roll out the Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld team to stump for Romney?

Come on, show the pride!!

packwilleat 7 months ago

Here is an article that explains the "compassionate" left......

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/12663764-liberal-democrats-continue-to-get-rich-exploiting-the-black-latino-vote

fugitiveguy 7 months ago

when Bill Maher is your hero, when you pull quotes from weeks ago to support your silly supposition you out yourself as a joke of a person, a clown, someone in need of a hobby, I am tickled you are wasting your life archiving my words of wisdom. you are in the right party.

krl10 7 months ago

Assumptions and childish insults are not a sound dialectic. I haven't attacked anybody. I simply presented quotes garnered from responses to the only letter I have ever written to the Pilot to advance Frank’s point. It is difficult to stay on point when you have to resort to name calling and invective. If you can’t take responsibility for what you say, get out of the sandbox.

Aberdeeniac 7 months ago

Which Shirt Should I Wear When Dusty Buys me a Beer? by Aberdeeniac

Aberdeeniac 7 months ago

The Republicans have been obsessed with removing Barack Obama from office from the moment he was elected, instead of being obsessed with fixing the mess Bush left Obama to deal with.

That whole statement has expired almost 4 years ago.......... The blame Bush thing has come and gone...... Dem prez and dem congress and still could not pass a budget only the bigest tax hike in history.......

Aberdeeniac 7 months ago

The entire Republican Party has been in a conspiracy to make him fail. They blatantly stated that their goal was to get him out of office, no matter what. What is that? It’s unheard of. It’s un-American. It reeks of one thing only, racism.

The racism card is not going to work this time around.... Out a Socialist..... YOU BET

Aberdeeniac 7 months ago

The Republicans claim we’re not better off now than we were four years ago when Bush left office. Let’s see: bin Laden dead, Iraq war over, auto industry saved and going strong, affordable health care for all, Dow Jones at 13,600, unemployment at 7.8 percent, Equal Pay for Equal Work, etc. Republicans would be gloating if they accomplished this.

And what state did not submit unemployment stats??????????

Aberdeeniac 7 months ago

This party of fanatics has continually obstructed Obama, instead of working for the American people to fix Bush’s mess. This is dereliction of duty. The average American would get fired if they refused to what they were hired to do. These Republicans have no shame. They think they can “sweep under the rug” what Bush did.

The House of reps have submitted well over 20 bills to address the fiscal cliff...... ALL TURNED DOWN BY THE SENATE...... THATS RIGHT THE DEMS......

JimHeim 7 months ago

Forty-four consecutive months of job growth and more jobs added in the past year than the entire Bush presidency. And still Republicans insist that Obama's created no jobs.

Reality does indeed have a liberal bias.

Aberdeeniac 7 months ago

Forty-four consecutive months of job growth and more jobs added in the past year than the entire Bush presidency. And still Republicans insist that Obama's created no jobs.

Reality does indeed have a liberal bias.

Did you count the number of people who just said screw it I aint finding a job? Do you believe the 7.8 percent with the largest state not reporting unemployment? Obama is the one who made the promises about passing HIS stimulas and has failed..... Then just put the biggest tax hike in history on us in the form of Obama care........ But let me guess...... I'm a racist for being a Republican..... This whole article and comment should be deleted...... Disagree and the auther calls me a racist???? What if I called you a murderer.... Thief.... FAG..... all because you disagreed with my political view........

skylinefirepest 7 months ago

krl10...and you find exactly WHAT in that comment to be racist??? Not a damn thing that I can see. Aberdeeniac...amazing that obumma wants to take credit for making jobs when he has NOT. It seems to be so incredibly easy for him and his administration to lie. Just second nature with the man, isn't it?? Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy...."forty- four consecutive months of job growth and more jobs added in the past year than the entire Bush presidency." What an incredible lie...you been smokin' some of Moonies stash, Jimmy??? Where do you come up with this stuff? By some estimates there are closer to fifteen plus percent of the people out of work rather than the fixed crap that obumma has tried to feed us a month away from the election. I'm still amazed that the mostly honest people in the Moore County Dem. Party aren't ashamed by your stuff!! If you worked for me and spouted that crap for public consumption I'd have fired you several years ago!!

geoffcutler 7 months ago

"Assumptions and childish insults are not a sound dialectic. I haven't attacked anybody. I simply presented quotes garnered from responses to the only letter I have ever written to the Pilot to advance Frank’s point. It is difficult to stay on point when you have to resort to name calling and invective. If you can’t take responsibility for what you say, get out of the sandbox." krl10

You're kidding, right? What do you think this letter is if not childish insults? What do you think the Pilot's publishing this letter is if not to support these childish insults? What do you think Dusty's stupid links are if not a continuation of the childish insults? It's the loony left in the sandbox, by themselves, especially if they think these base tactics are going to get the most ridiculous president of all time re-elected. Trying to gin up votes from minorities by calling others racist? Talk about racist. Pathetic!

Thatcher 7 months ago

geoff-- Correct. Well said! Cheers!

Aberdeeniac 7 months ago

All I got to say is this about racism..... Trying to scare us???? Not this time!!!!!!

http://www.infowars.com/new-threats-to-riot-if-obama-loses-election/

The_AnonymusProfit 7 months ago

Actual Unemployment (Current U-6 number) in America as of Sept 2012, (October U-3 and U-6 numbers are both misnomers as California did not report their claims for the current numbers (IE 7.8% national is a totally false number actual U-3 is about 8.2 an uptick of .01%)) is 14.7% This number includes current people on unemployment though it does not include those who have been moved to SS Disability, and those who are no longer looking. This means that roughly 15% of the American work force is still unemployed.

Dont give me this BS about 7.8%. Anyone who can tell me with a straight face that we are at 7.8% is suffering from serious delusional episodes and needs serious medical attention.

It should also be noted that a large increase in government jobs over the last 3 years as buffeted the unemployment numbers.

It should also be noted that a large increase in the labor hires for Sep 01 to Oct 01 were part time jobs, however by using a different system they are counted as jobs with no distinction between part time and full time.

We are currently coming up on the holiday season, usually there is a drop in unemployment numbers during this time due to seasonal part time jobs, however due to a large drought in the midwest many seasonal agri-jobs will not be available for the winter season which will offset any part time Christmas gains.

While not illegal, the current 7.8% number is a manipulation due to the sudden switch in systems. The plain truth is that the economy has slowed from 2009 to 2010, it slowed further from 2010 to 2011, and further still from 2011 to 2012.

The only thing one could point to as a sliver lining is the DJI which is posting now steadily above 13,000. However this is not solely influenced by US markets, while all 30 stocks are US based, foreign markets and foreign banks have alot of influence on the swings of the Index.

The only way to create the numbers of jobs needed, not just to offset new entries into the job market and make up for losses, is to lower taxes on corporations and make the cuts permanent so that buisnesses plan accordingly. While some may call CEOs greedy, they will make more money expanding their businesses then they will sitting on piles of cash.

The choice is clear.

skylinefirepest 7 months ago

Aberdeeniac...good point again. If they want to riot then they'll want to steer clear of Moore County 'cause there's plenty enough ammunition to take care of just a medium size riot...if it's a really big one then I might need to call some friends.

packwilleat 7 months ago

One is only left to think that it is by design. I've said it for the last 2 years or so, it's a lose lose situation. No mater what happens people will take to the streets.

fugitiveguy 7 months ago

16T debt, Obama pledged it would be 6T at this time, this is all you really need to know. This is also the reason the "party before all else" liberals want to talk about GWB. If this isn't proof positive they either don't care about the country or that they are completely and hopelessly clueless about the dire situation we face in the near future. Of course then there is fast and furious, solyndra and other green shenanigans, the Libyan cover ups vs profound incompetence. All that matters to Obama and his followers is that he remain in power. Obama has the undisputed distinction of being the US president with the thinnest resume of all times. No one else comes even close. It never mattered that he wasn't qualified. They knew he could win and that is all that mattered then, its all that matters now. The future of our country and all our future generations be damned.

packwilleat 7 months ago

And Hillary falls on the sword to spare "the chosen one".........

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/15/us/clinton-benghazi/index.html

The_AnonymusProfit 7 months ago

Ever wonder how hard your being screwed?

http://www.usavsus.info/

This website details every single unconstitutional act ever taken by our government.

The_AnonymusProfit 7 months ago

I encourage you to read the differences in spellings, notice unalienable vs inalienable. Our bill of rights is supposed to be unalienable, however it has become inalienable.

AFCHIEF 7 months ago

Beliefs Of A Good Democrat

You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand
You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.
You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese and Korean communists.
You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.
You have to believe that global temperatures are more affected by soccer moms driving SUV's than cyclical, documented changes in the earth's climate.
You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being homosexual is natural.
You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.
You have to believe that the same teacherwho can't teach fourth graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about sex.
You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature but loony activists who have never been outside of San Francisco do.
You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.
You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.
You have to believe that taxes are too low,but ATM fees are too high.
You have to believe that standardized tests are racist but racial quotas and set-asides are not.
You have to believe that he only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it has ever been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge.
You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag, transvestites, and bestiality should be constitutionally protected, and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.
You have to believe that this message is a part of a vast, right wing conspiracy.
You have to believe that it's okay to give Federal workers Christmas Day off but it's offensive to say 'Merry Christmas'.

Ready to vote???

AFCHIEF 7 months ago

The Liberals shining star

Obamanation by AFCHIEF

The_AnonymusProfit 7 months ago

Amazing post afc

geoffcutler 7 months ago

Isn't that lid an ACORN cap? No connections to made there....

JimHeim 7 months ago

Those who gauge unemployment with U6 should have done it during the Bush administration. Or is U3 correct for Republicans and U6 for Democrats. Really? That's how you compare performance?

Has job growth been good? No. But unless Republicans in Congress decide to help (fat chance!) recovery will continue to be slow. Maybe during Obama's second term when defeating him will no longer be more important than the survival of the United States.

Sometimes I crack myself up. That's just not going to happen. Luckily, the Republican Party has charted a course to oblivion and will soon join the Whigs in the pantheon of failed parties. None too soon.

Courseaire 7 months ago

Bush is history, we're only concerned with the here, now & future. Has job growth been good? No. But unless Democrats in Congress decide to help (fat chance!) recovery will continue to be slow.

Toda 7 months ago

Bush is history ~ and that is the mantra of the Republican Party. When in fact, as I attempted to communicate to Skyline, the debt Bush hid from the American people is staggering and won't go away anytime soon ... Read on those of few search engine abilities:

How the Wars Are Sinking the Economy Oct 26, 2010 9:40 PM EDT Nobel Prize recipient Joseph Stiglitz and Harvard budget guru Linda J. Bilmes are revising their original $3 trillion war cost estimate. As Bilmes reports, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are at least 25 percent costlier than previous projections.

How can anyone argue with those scholars reporting on the FACTS of Bushes creative accounting?

Read on Conservatives and blame this Chit on Obama:

But behind those issues—behind the ads and candidates' speeches, behind the rhetoric about "out-of-control" government spending—there lurks a hidden, less-talked-about issue: the cost of the ongoing wars.

Already, we've spent more than $1 trillion in Iraq, not counting the $700 billion consumed each year by the Pentagon budget. And spending in Iraq and Afghanistan now comes to more than $3 billion weekly, making the wars a major reason for record-level budget deficits.

Two years ago, Joseph Stiglitz and I published The Three Trillion Dollar War in which we estimated that the budgetary and economic costs of the war would reach $3 trillion.

*Taking new numbers into account, however, we now believe that our initial estimate was far too conservative—the cost of the wars will reach between $4 trillion and $6 trillion.

Toda 7 months ago

And if that information isn't enough for the Rightest Republicans who chose not to understand issues, well here's more for you tweeps:

The Bush administration not only vastly underestimated the cost of the wars but cut taxes twice—in 2001 and 2003—just as we were ramping up the war effort. This was the first time in U.S. history that a government cut taxes while also appropriating huge new sums to fight a war. And the consequence is that the wars added substantially to the federal debt.

Between 2003 and 2008—before the financial crisis unfolded—the debt rose from $6.4 trillion to $10 trillion, and, at least one-quarter of this increase was directly attributable to the wars, first in Iraq and then in Afghanistan.

We have already spent more than $1 trillion in Iraq… and weekly—yes, weekly—spending in Iraq and Afghanistan now comes to more than $3 billion.

For example, in March 2003—the month of the Iraq invasion—oil prices hovered just under $25 per barrel. Immediately afterward, however, prices started to soar, reaching $140 a barrel five years later. Add to that: for Americans, the war-spending left us with much less wiggle room domestically to deal with the financial crisis.

The_AnonymusProfit 7 months ago

@jimheim

I had my first chance ever to vote in 2004. At this time i was just out of highschool. In my history classes we discussed current events. Right before the election we dis ussed unemployment numbers. My teacher used the U6 number. I cast my vote for bush and woukd do it again in a heart beat. I have never used the u3 number.

As to the wars. Both parties(including biden voted for the wars)

Toda 7 months ago

Credit for the above threads that are not of my own writing:

JimHeim 7 months ago

You might understand our position that Republicans (particularly the Southern variety) follow racist patterns if you look at the textbooks being supplied to Lousiana's Republican-supported charter schools. They contain such gems as the 'fact' that the KKK was a social organization that helped local government deal with problems of wife-beaters and drunks.

That'll win you some African-American votes.

The fact is that Republicans have been trying to exploit and enlarge America's racial divide since Nixon's 'southern strategy' in the wake of the civil rights movement. It worked so well to drive African-Americans from their candidates that they've repeated the exercise with Latinos with the same result. Nice going.

justpassingby2 7 months ago

All else fails, play the race card! Of course only complete idiots would ever let themselves get so buried as to get to the last resort option.

JD 7 months ago

“Mitt Romney was not a businessman,” David Stockman wrote. “He was a master financial speculator who bought, sold, flipped, and stripped businesses.”

Ronald Reagan’s budget director, David Stockman, takes a scalpel to the claims.

nothingspecial 7 months ago

Jim isn't it prejudice when someone claims the "Southern variety of Republicans" are racist because you found " textbooks being supplied to Lousiana's Republican-supported charter schools" have a crazy statement about the KKK?

JimHeim 7 months ago

In the San Francisco suburb of Moran Hill, one of the residents has placed by the highway a large chair decorated with two watermelons and a noose. But it's not about race.

JimHeim 7 months ago

nothingspecial, It can't be a crazy statement. It came from the scholars at that font of right-wing learnin,' Bob Jones University.

nothingspecial 7 months ago

prej·u·dice (prj-ds) KEY

-An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts. (i.e., seeing a watermelon on the side of the road with a noose in San Francisco and deciding the Presidential Race is all about race because of that)

-A preconceived preference or idea (i.e., if a Republican doesn't like a Democratic President or wants a Republican President again, and that president is black, the Republican must be racist).

-The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments or convictions. See Synonyms at predilection (i.e., determining that all Southern Republicans are racist because you heard there was a crazy KKK quote in a Louisiana textbook at schools backed by Republicans)

-Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race, or religion.

-Detriment or injury caused to a person by the preconceived, unfavorable conviction of another or others.

Toda 7 months ago

TAP "As to the wars. Both parties(including biden voted for the wars)"

What has your comment to do with threads claiming under the Obama Administration, 6 trillion in debt has accrued under his watch? When the facts show Bush lied to the American people about the cost of those wars, and even hid those costs. Its not a matter of who voted for what ~ but more over who is being credited for the escalation of national debt! Obama open policy has defined where those expenses have come from and not by his administration!

Toda 7 months ago

justpassingby2

"Of course only complete idiots would ever let themselves get so buried as to get to the last resort option."

Your comment is without merit or subsistence. Who are you to call someone else an idiot when you have defined yourself as one with your unsubstantiated diatribes. Has ever posting factual information that can be supported by facts or just your biased opinions? Quite a difference!

What a disgusting comment ~ but that is pare to course when factual information is out of reach or comprehension.

justpassingby2 7 months ago

Yo toda darling. I asked you and the other idiots why you vilified one POTUS, going as far as to say he was destroying the country, but now support a POTUS who has carried on those very same things from wars to tax breaks to deficit spending. You and the other idiots have provided all the facts anyone needs to realize that you are extremely hypocritical and just not very smart. I asked long ago for you and the other hypocrites to make a list of what made you hate bush so much and then tell me what has changed. Not one of you was able to do it so I suggest you do like dusty when I make him look like the fool that he obviously is and just pretend to take a time out (like now) or just ignore me.

justpassingby2 7 months ago

Makes you proud to be a liberal!!!!

“Clueless” star Stacey Dash recently tweeted her support for Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, accompanied by a patriotic swimsuit picture of herself.

But now her political viewpoint has become the subject of online attacks, with many expressing crude distaste that she isn’t endorsing President Obama – and race has become a key motivator behind the digital abuse.

“You’re an unemployed black woman endorsing Mitt Romney. You’re voting against yourself thrice. You poor beautiful idiot,” one Twitter user wrote, while @Black Voice wrote, “Stacey Dash had a perm since birth. I knew I couldn’t trust her.. lol.”

Others accused the actress of “voting for white supremacy,” claiming she “is white with a dark tan,” and calling Dash a slew of offensive names.

Several other Obama supporters even went as far as to encourage “the old hag” to “kill herself.” One suicide encourager is listed as a doctor and politically active Democrat in Washington D.C., and although he reportedly has deleted the inflammatory “kill yourself” tweet, it was captured by social media news site, Twitchy.com.

But Dash seems to be taking the backlash in stride.

“My humble opinion… EVERYONE is entitled to one,” she tweeted in response.

But the 46-year-old's plug for Romney attracted plenty of applause, too.

“Thank you for being willing to think for yourself despite what your haters have to say,” tweeted one user, while another noted, “You can NEVER, EVER (did I say never?) NEVER leave the Dem party if you r Black. Once you do, the name calling begins.”

Dash did not respond to a request for further comment.

Middleman522 7 months ago

So I guess it's ok for Dingy Harry to protect the BS'r In Chief by NOT voting on bills that the House passed, for fear that Dem. Senators might try to save their jobs and vote for their people? Getting ZERO votes from either side on his budget jokes were Republican' fault as well. What about all of the bribing he had to do with DEMOCRATS to get the Oblaimascare passed on CHRISTMAS EVE! How is that Someone elses fault. You people really must laugh yourself to sleep at night with all of your redirecting of blame! Have you guys gotten together yet on who to blame for the Libya murders? We're waiting!!!!.... Did anyone die at the Watergate Hotel? Like Fast & Furious and Libya??? Your coverups have a lot more meat!!

RmeMP 7 months ago

After attending a brave soldiers funeral yesterday, I am appalled that those people on the left are still defending this administration's cover-up in Benghazi where 4 Americans were murdered in an act an terrorism; you people really need to check your affiliations - are you not an American before democrat? I don't care which party is in charge during a blatant cover-up, EVERYONE should be calling for the truth to come out, which it now has, and for heads to roll... I don't care that its election season, this one incident alone SHOULD seal Obama's fate, but sadly it won't. Why? Because certain "Americans" care more about their side of the isle, than the country as a whole :(

Toda 7 months ago

justpassingby2 ~ you my dear, are still lost for constructive works and obviously a total lack of education beyond the primary school level; reading comprehension is not your strong point since you can't read and understand those scholars who have written about the national debt from the Bush Administration.

Can you define idiot for those of us who seldom if ever use that word?

MikeNC 7 months ago

Ditto RmeMP. It's sad where our county's values have gone...Mike

Toda 7 months ago

" I am appalled that those people on the left are still defending this administration's cover-up in Benghazi where 4 Americans were murdered in an act an terrorism;"

How about an update on all the brave warriors who have been murdered by terrorist since Bush started those two wars? I have two nieces serving in Afghanistan as I write.

How long will it take the Dog of War Romney to start another conflict so Raytheon Company can line the Romneys' pockets? Tagg will enjoy the success of his hedgefund with daddy's connections as prez!

Toda 7 months ago

"you people" a racial connotation there General!

RmeMP 7 months ago

Toda if you're going to quote me, then respond to that quote - don't go off an a tangent, and try comparing 2 declared wars and dead soldiers, to an act of terror where American citizens are murdered; surely, you know there is a difference right?

Ps- eat crow TOADa! Me saying "you people" had ABSOLUTELY NO racial undertone to it in the sense that it was used, I can't even tell you good try...

Courseaire 7 months ago

See Toda, "you people" see race in everything. How can "you people" be taken seriously, really?

justpassingby2 7 months ago

I am an idiot toda. Now you are trying to tell me that the deficit is the only reason you demonized bush? Okay, if that is what you are saying. I guess obama got fooled too because he said he would get the deficit to $6T not the $16T that it is at now. And by the way I'm sorry that I was wrong about your opinion of bush.

The_AnonymusProfit 7 months ago

I am so glad that i live in a county and district where the majority still have sense.

Toda 7 months ago

The General said, "don't go off an a tangent,"

And then he said, "try comparing 2 declared wars and dead soldiers, to an act of terror where American citizens are murdered;"

"to an act of terror where American citizens are murdered;" Humm ~ there General, so what in your demented opinion was the 911 attack? I bet you didn't see that coming no more than those who had special forces staged off the Libyan shore. But what apparently started as a protest, ended up as an attack...with hundreds of embassy's around the world, which ones should an entire brigade be assigned? Now we are talking huge revenue sponges.

"surely, you know there is a difference right?" Apparently not ... you don't!

And what is with this comment? "Ps- eat crow TOADa!" Lost for words that complete a thought or just your frustration showing wussy!

Toda 7 months ago

Courseaire => "You people" ~ An obvious lack of education in absence of better writing skills.

Courseaire 7 months ago

Toda => So how does that equate to racism? Are you saying lack of education &an absence of writing skills makes you a racist? Really?

Toda 7 months ago

JPB2 => " I guess obama got fooled too because he said he would get the deficit to $6T not the $16T that it is at now."

So were the American people fooled - and apparently until Obama took office he was in the blind just like the rest of America who was unaware of Bushes creative accounting. So much for honesty in politics ~ Bush created his own biography on how to mismanage a country and thrust us into another economic disaster akin to the Great Depression...Elect Romney for more of the same ... unless you are a millionaire times 10!

RmeMP 7 months ago

TOADA, are you off your meds? Should we be concerned about your mental health again? LEOs are only a phone call away if you need a health and welfare check, just let us know :)

Toda 7 months ago

Metformin is in my system ... are you now an on-line doctor?

Are LEO's now licensed to perform "wellness" checks" and authorize social assistance to those living on the margins of society?

Is there insider knowledge about my mental health that perhaps I should be made aware of since you are doing the diagnosing?

You couldn't be an LEO with your attitude or a mentally disturbed vet having flash backs in need of on-going counseling. That's okay to seek help from qualified professionals. Don't be embarrassed ... it will be alright.

justpassingby2 7 months ago

No creative accounting in obamacare. No creative accounting in the jobless number. No creative accounting in the obama stimulus package. Once again bush doing it was wrong obama doing it is okay by you. That is just what you you and the liberals have become.

geoffcutler 7 months ago

More amazing than this administration's cover-up of the terrorist murders of American citizens in order to better Obama's chances of re-election is that leftist American citizens (and right here on this website) don't seem to think it enough of an issue to even begin to question Obama. What will it take to get their attention as to how sickening this is? Does an American city have to go up in smoke? What? It isn't just the media looking the other way, it's our own people.

teufelhunden 7 months ago

Libya and Fast & Furious. Nice...

Of course they'll get to the bottom of it AFTER the election, if at all.

RmeMP 7 months ago

Exactly the point I made above Geoff, before Toda did a good job of injecting racism some how...

The burning cities will come after the election, I'm afraid, from riots after Oblunder is thrown out.

AFCHIEF 7 months ago

TODA be careful sheriff heard you are losing it again and are on the way

geoffcutler 7 months ago

First, we got harangued on here that it was a movie trailer, American racists against Muslims...you know the drill. It's the same one this letter writer is trying to pass off as serious opinion when it's utter garbage. The paper then decides to print anyway. Now we know the trailer had nothing to do with these murders... but out come Obama's minions to keep pushing the lie. Our people are dead at the hands of terrorists. And our leftist friends on here? Not a word. Just goose-stepping down the road behind their leader.

skylinefirepest 7 months ago

Tommy, you saying that Romney would start a war to make a profit should be insulting to ALL AMERICANS!!!! What a snotty thing to say about a man who has, incidentally, given more to the poor than obumma, his fat wife, and a few other liberal dems all together. Dems are really good at spending other people's money.

Thatcher 7 months ago

I'm curious to know what the liberal women here (MC7, etc.) think about Obama throwing Hillary Clinton under the bus, and having her take responsibility for the Benghazi terrorist attack. Cheers!

AFCHIEF 7 months ago

OBAMA WASTES ANOTHER $249 million of taxpayer money, another Solyndra

http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/battery-builder-a123-won-249-million-federal-grant-143806554.html

AFCHIEF 7 months ago

Nice salute Obamanation. What a cad!!!

NO RESPECT by AFCHIEF

MikeNC 7 months ago

Jim: ARE you refering to the Miss. Teachers Union accusing a BLACK choice charter school of teaching children about the KKK? Diane

geoffcutler 7 months ago

T, you'll recall NOW already though Hillary under the bus during the last primaries...for Obama. It's uncanny. Hillary was the left's dream girl, the one to go all the way to the top. Until he came along. Then they went all drooly, vacuous starry eyed looks and tingles down their legs for him... and well, the rest is history. Hillary's used to this treatment. How long is she going to put up with it remains to be seen? I think she'd become the most respectable woman in the world if she spilled the beans. But that would take integrity she hasn't yet shown.

Aberdeeniac 7 months ago

So let's sum this blog and responses by the DEMS up....

Your a racist for having a different politacal view even if the Dem Party started the KKK.
It's still Bush's fault
Your a racist
It's still Bush's fault

JimHeim 7 months ago

I would be more impressed with the right's fainting spell about the attack in Libya if these same folks had been as worked up about the much worse attack on our country 9/11/01. Why are you so ready to place blame now while having given Bush a total pass for ignoring warnings about bin Laden and al Qaeda?

Aberdeeniac 7 months ago

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/farrakhans-fiery-new-warning-to-the-u-s-every-plague-that-is-written-in-the-koran-is-going-to-come-to-pass-in-america/

Good ole farrakhan....... I'll be swinging by EDs gun Shop when I get back (for self protection)...... This is your Dem Party in action.......

Thatcher 7 months ago

JimHeim-- Please provide us with links that show that the folks in the Twin Towers had requested extra security because of threatened terrorist attacks. Thanks.

Aberdeeniac 7 months ago

Nice try Jim care to give the date when Bush took office vs when the attack happened? Your right they planned the whole thing in a few months..... JIM that was just plain stupid to say..... Your boy Clinton ownes that one......

Aberdeeniac 7 months ago

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/oct/16/ross-perot-endorses-mitt-romney/

This one is for JD.....

Aberdeeniac 7 months ago

Ever wonder where those liberal rants come from?

http://politicker.com/2012/10/reporters-preparing-to-cover-debate-by-drinking-free-beer/

Spocks_Brain 7 months ago

Let me tell you what is un-american

Things like having USDA employees chant 'All our forefathers were illegal immigrants' in diversity training session Telling NASA to 'reach out to Muslims' Making side deals with the Russians on an open mike (and getting caught) Deliberately appointing Gay Ambassadors to countries like Libya and Pakistan and spending US taxpayer dollars to back Gay Pride parades in Pakistan and Csechlovakia and God only knows where else

need I go on?

AFCHIEF 7 months ago

So Obama gets Hillary to take the blame for the Libya fiasco and she is thrown under the bus! Has Obama EVER said it is my fault for ANYTHING?

Aberdeeniac 7 months ago

@ Spock.... "need I go on?" Yes you do!!!!!

geoffcutler 7 months ago

Let's say for the sake of argument, Jim, Bush ignored the warnings about 9/11/01. Are you then prepared to admit that Obama is currently trying to cover his rear end by insisting it's everyone's fault but his own? We'll wait to hear it.

The_AnonymusProfit 7 months ago

Ok so let me get this straight. The gop is unamerican because they freed the slaves, created the civil rights movement, strived to provide opportunity for all, endorsed military incursions in the pursuit of liberty for tbose who have never had liberty, championed good morals and american values of hard work and family, and allowed for religious freedom ......

Yea the gop is definetly unamerican.

AFCHIEF 7 months ago

BREAKING NEWS From Obamanation!!!

http://www.tmz.com/2012/10/15/barack-obama-mariah-carey-nicki-minaj-beef-feud-american-idol/

Obama how about paying attention to the debt crisis

fugitiveguy 7 months ago

Toda how does your continued dwelling on the myth of Bush hiding war costs get us any closer to dealing with our impending debt catastrophe? Even if it was true it is pointless to discuss it now. Obama vowed to cut the debt in half, that is not disputed, he was just making promises to get in office knowing full well he had no intention of dealing with the debt, he also knew that dimwits would not hold his feet to the fire for it. Sound familiar?, it should. You and ALL the liberal faithful give him a pass on it. You and the rest allow your partisanship to come before the country, to come before the future of your (and all of our) future generations.

The_AnonymusProfit 7 months ago

Obama is doing better tonight, but he still cant cover that record, I actually thought the first debate was a Tie, but tonight as of now im giving the edge to Romney.

The_AnonymusProfit 7 months ago

PolicyMic gives Romney the win

The_AnonymusProfit 7 months ago

Patch gives Romney the win

Thatcher 7 months ago

Great job Mitt! Very well done! Cheers!

skylinefirepest 7 months ago

Toda, no matter what he personally thought, obumma was not then and is not now qualified to be president. And it still amazes me that "you people" continue to support a proven liar. I have stated his crap many times so I'll spare you tonight just out of the goodness of my little heart.

The_AnonymusProfit 7 months ago

I have to say hannity has it right. Game set match. Obama goes down.

fugitiveguy 7 months ago

I was stunned when the moderator sided with the president on the topic of his remarks about the Libya murders. Not stunned that she was pro Obama but that she would have so little self control as to violate the simplest rule of moderating a debate. I am sure the pilot libs will respond with glee and approval. The most important point gets lost. Why was the embassy not given the requested security and second why did the administration continue to put out info on the motive that those with even a casual following of the events knew was false.

geoffcutler 7 months ago

What kind of audience is it that applauds when a president lies at a town hall debate?

I'll tell you. One that believes a CNN reporter/moderator when she backs the lie up and shuts the contender down on National television. That crowd last night doesn't know the president isn't telling the truth about not calling the deaths of Americans in Libya an act of terrorism because most all media outlets aren't covering the story. The NYT isn't. That applause last night suggests they don't even know there are hearings going on to uncover the truth about what happened, and why for days after the incident this administration including Obama, Clinton, Susan Rice, and David Axelrod were all calling the act the result of a movie trailer. The lefties on this website agreed with them, because it's what they wanted to believe. This is what happens when the fourth estate doesn't do its job because its politically in the tank for one candidate.

Letters like this one gain the same type of traction in the public's eye because the media does nothing to dispel the myth that all Republicans must be racist. When the president says he declared the Libyan murders an act of terrorism the day after the incident...it's believed because they haven't been told that it is not the truth. Sad to watch.

JimHeim 7 months ago

geoff, Nope. Bush was personally warned about the danger bin Laden posed by Bill Clinton before he was even inaugurated. Month after month the CIA delivered briefings to Bush with warnings of attacks planned for inside the United States. Month after month Bush's own counter-terrorism group tried to get his attention. Bush personally decided to ignore those warnings.

So far there is zero evidence that the White House was informed of the request for personnel or any intelligence suggesting an attack was coming.

So far we don't know if the requested personnel would have been enough or why the request was rejected. Maybe it was lack of funding after Ryan chopped their security budget by over $400 million. These private security guys are very well paid, you know.

With so few details available, it takes real gall to jump to so many absurd conclusions.

fugitiveguy 7 months ago

I suppose we should not be suprised at anything that comes from a party who proudly put forth a nominee in 2007 with the absolute weakest resume for president in the history of the nation. We should not be suprised after 4 years of the way things have turned out. We should not be suprised at a media that fails to do their most basic duty. Lastly we should not be suprised at the local lib lemmings that continue to want to talk about the past while our most pressing problems are in the present. Problems that aren't on this charlatans radar. If it only affected the libs I would be happy to sit back and watch the show. Unfortunately our future and our future generation futures hang in the balance. Not one local lefty that raises any concerns over the way this president has done his job, how can that be?

geoffcutler 7 months ago

You'll believe what you want to, Jim. And it's your lack of gall that's so disturbing. Watch the tapes.

geoffcutler 7 months ago

You want talk about gall, Jim? Your coming on here to support the garbage that all Republicans must be racist. That's gall, Jim.

fugitiveguy 7 months ago

Speaking of racism. I passed through WVA heading north last week. Jim, do you think Robert Byrd would have all those buildings and highways named for him had he been a Republican?

dustyrhoades 7 months ago

I see Geoff is parroting the stupidest wingnut non sequitr EVER: that pointing out racism makes you the racist.

And as for the debate: the right's desperately trying to spin it as a tie, proving a HUGE Obama win.

dustyrhoades 7 months ago

"The instant polls all found Obama won last night's presidential debate: CBS News had Obama beating Romney 37% to 30%, CNN found Obama won 46% to 39%, and a Lake Research poll in the battleground states found Obama up 53% to 38%."

http://politicalwire.com/

Let the wingnut whining begin! Which will be the first cliche spewed? "Biased moderator?" "Skewed polls?" Stay tuned...

geoffcutler 7 months ago

Outside of the lies, terror attack and drilling, I thought Obama was much better, and may have won the debate. What's you point, Dusty? Romney missed too many opportunities and I thought looked robotic. We on the right can admit things about our leaders that you have NEVER about Obama.

geoffcutler 7 months ago

"...an offensive video or cartoon about the prophet Muhammad..." Obama.

fugitiveguy 7 months ago

In the first debate I felt like it was not as one sided as most outlets have reported, I think I amm on record as saying such but I could be mistaken. This debate I feel while being much better for Obama was IMO was too close to call, certainly not a win for Romney. First debate I can remember where the moderator was serving as simultaneous fact checker. The left has no problem with that? I am schocked. Of course on the fact she supposedly checked, Obama was full of crap but who cares, right? It got some applause.

Spocks_Brain 7 months ago

Gee didnt Obama when he was using his southern black accent say let someone else worry about the debt??

yep sho did, sho nuf, dat is true yes it is, why lordy lordy

DR you are so sad to listen to, so biased, so angry..maybe you could get a job with the state department promoting Gay Pride parades in Pakistan (this is really happening)..

Obama and his ilk remind me of the part in Lord of the Rings in Book 3 when the hobbits come back to The Shire and find it all screwed up...F U B A R

Like finding out the USDA has its employees chanting ALL OUR FOREFATHERS WERE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!!! et al ad nauseam..Chic Fil A's getting booted by intolerant homosexual storm troopers

teufelhunden 7 months ago

Obama did much better so I call it a tie.

teufelhunden 7 months ago

Obama wouldn't touch Fast & Furious with a 29 1/2 foot pole. Did y'all notice?

The_AnonymusProfit 7 months ago

Romney won that debate period

AFCHIEF 7 months ago

We'll see the bumbling Obama in the next debate when the questions are not prescreened and the moderator is not a Obama licker

Middleman522 7 months ago

Heim you may remember that Clinton's staff in charge of policy, made it illegal for the CIA to share intel with the FBI. The CIA knew about Otta and the fly boys but could not tell the FBI!! This is how 9/11 happened. We were attacked several times under Slick Willie and he did nothing. So they kept coming! Oblaima is trying the same policy. We were attacked again. Be nice to these killers and you will die feeling shafted! By the way W Bush called it terror right off the bat on 9/11, unlike "I'll side with my Muslim Brothers" did. Why was that, Heim?? Al Quida on the run?? Yes they RAN right to our place and started a small war!!

Middleman522 7 months ago

"Failed Bush Policies caused this recession"..... It was FANNIE and FREDDIE that caused all of this! We were growing after 9/11 because of the tax cuts and when Barnie and Dodd threatened "RACISM" to McCain, they cut Fannie and Freddie loose to book more bad loans and sell them as good ones. "I KILLED bin ladin"..... He trashed everything that W did to get the intel to get bin ladin, including trying to convict the CIA guys of torture, and then gives the Seals "permission" to KILL him. THEN braggs about it and brings in Hollywierd and blows any chance of catching the bad guys on bin ladins harddrive!! And then takes credit!!!!???? "I ended the Iraq War"....He voted against every stage of this war and trashed every aspect of it, and the war was over when he took office. Then he YANKS our guys out too early and Al Quida is moving back in. He does get credit for Oblaimascare!!

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