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It’s not often that I elect to have my “bon mots” appear in this Democratic Party booster paper, but my senses took a shock at the election results.
I actually harbored the inane thought that Romney was going to win and had a smirk to prove it. Au contraire! But why? Whatever possessed the normally sensible thinking public to reverse gears?
From all indicators Obama’s first four years were a disaster — out of sight budget deficits resulting in borrowing from China to pay same, the lowering of our reputation as a nation in the world’s eyes (as if we should give a hoot), the continual reliance on foreign oil, etc.
President Obama has a great speaking talent, but that’s about it. He may be able to deliver eloquently, but it’s the content that counts.
His running mate, Biden, was nothing more than a fool, a clown, a bumpkin of the first order. How could such a pair compare with the business acumen of Romney?
It didn’t make sense, but then again, look at what the Democratic Party was offering — freebies! Obama’s government was openly encouraging its populace to join in free food stamps and other programs of a similar nature which was jumped upon as evident the 47 percent participation.
This unparalleled evidence of greed has only one fundamental precept that has now been thoroughly destroyed: the law of morals. We were once a nation of laws based on Christian morals but no longer. ’Tis a pity.
Rich Moran
Whispering Pines
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JimHeim 6 months ago
Reality can come as such a shock.
And I want my food stamps. Or at least an Obama phone. Make it a Samsung S3; they are so cool.
Easygoing 6 months ago
Wow, someone can't face reality, Rich, wake up to the fact that the country is not like the retirement communites in Moore county. There are lots of other folks who have ideas about how to make the country great. Lets start talking and get to work.
OldPilot 6 months ago
Hi Rich: Welcome to 2012. Once you get past the GOP BS that you are still spouting you might try to contribute something positive.
packwilleat 6 months ago
Here's the truth. But, then again, most of you are not interested in the truth.......
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=q03cWio-zjk&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dq03cWio-zjk%26feature%3Dyoutu.be
pinewoodnc 6 months ago
What's scary is now people are petitioning to have their states form a separate govenment because of Obama winning. In my 60 yr. lifetime, I have never seen the country at such odds and so much internal strife. Could we actually be looking at a future civil war? Something needs to happen to get people to start working together or our future could be very dark indeed.
Sean 6 months ago
Yes, isn't that just about what Romney said today? That he lost cus Obama gave poor people and minorities gifts. The facade slips once again. Obama is not the greatest president, but his message is consistant, and he understands the difference between the economics of business and the economics of a government.
But calling the pilot a "Democratic Party booster paper" really is funny. At least do a google search or something before you send a letter like this.
mcg2010 6 months ago
Wait, wait...FREE STUFF?! You mean when I voted for Obama I get free stuff too?! Well let me check my mail! Surely he's had time to get me my free stuff by now!
Also, no. The "petitions" on line don't signal a civil war, as most of the states that have "filled out" this petition actually have state constitutions that prohibit secession. To me these petitions indicate less about our "internal strife" as it indicates a petulance and reluctance to actually work with each other. It's just more "I'm going to take my ball and go home" politics. Over that crap. Let's stop looking for excuses and just start working together.
Sean 6 months ago
^^ Agree.
Sean 6 months ago
Well Jackson, I got me my beens in the cellar and bout a ton of 30-30 ball, so braing it!
JD 6 months ago
What a bunch of hysterical whiners.
"The sky is falling, the sky is falling"
jimt 6 months ago
If the preponderance of intelligence, police, and military power were not so overwhelmingly in the hands of government at all levels, local, state, federal, I think we might be in a civil war already.
Since most of the hysteria from the right is focused in the following states: South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, aka "the Usual Southern Suspects; plus the anti-government and religious fundamentalist survivalist types in Oklahoma, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, and Utah, I say, let em go without a fight and good riddance. And for good measure, take the fly-over states, North and South Dakota, Kansas, Nebraska, Kentuky, and Tennessee with them. We'll keep Virginia, North Carolina, and Arizona, existing or future "purple" states that will become more bluish due to demographics and all those neat gifts in the pipeline.
Won't bother me a bit.
fugitiveguy 6 months ago
Perhaps someone from the lefty thinktank can tell me again why what is going on in Greece and other European countries could not happen here.
njc17 6 months ago
This IS an entitlement society but you all know that. This is also an overregulated society, but you all know that too. Now we have a conservative faction in thie nation and a liberal faction in this nation. You also know that. So we are supposed to meet in the middle and "negotiate"? But you all know this is not going to happen. " I have a bag of marbles, Johnny says I want some, I don't have any. So mommy determines, I should share, we "negotiate" and Johnny gets a couple of marbles, but soon he decides a couple is not enough and it's unfair I should have so many. Mommy then determines we should negotiate again and Johnny gets a few more. Every so often this gets played out again and agan until Johnny has the lion's share of the marbles.He didn't earn them, he didn't deserve them but because of negotiation he has them. . My take is the conservative voice, the conservative values, that have held the nation from it;s inception have been taken away gradually by "negotiation", the immoral lifestyle that is abhored by the Christian/Judeo ethos has eroded because of the Negotiated legislation . The Constitution has been nullified by activists judges who seek to downgrade the importance of the base of the nation. I am all done negotiating.
Sean 6 months ago
Because, Fugitive, we are still, by far, the best investment available.
jimt 6 months ago
njc17: "I am all done negotiating."
Good. Implicitly you are threatening to take up arms against your government, in which case you'll be quickly killed. Or you'll leave, since this is no longer the Country you feel you grew-up in, and it is beyond redemption. Either way you're gone, which is fine with me.
pinewoodnc 6 months ago
Agree, 101Jackson. There are too many lies being told and empty promises made. We have allowed our country to be illegally invaded, got involved in unnecessary wars, borrowing millions of dollars from China to give to other countries when our own country is drowning in debt and elected politicians that absolutely refuse to work together to achieve goals to benefit our country. We have lost civility in this country which has aided in the ineffectiveness of our government. Even many postings on blogs demonstrate our lack of civility. I fear for this country because I think we have passed the threshhold of no return unless something drastic happens to change our path.
njc17 6 months ago
Jimt has no idea what I wrote down, He is all about bobbing up and down in the obama pool of uselessness.As longf as he has the 'Free stuff' the entitlement groupie, why Bless'em.
Yukonjohn 6 months ago
Sorry Rich, I did not support either of the candidates. If you think Romney would have been any different than the President, l think you have been deceived. Neither of them, IMHO, has a clue about how to bring our country back to its roots. And as far as our morals go, America is a secular nation, and religion should not be a part of the govt. Maybe it is time to break up the country, but l would not have a clue how to go about taking the urban areas away from states and just leave the state with the rural areas.
packwilleat 6 months ago
Yukon ~ things have gotten crazy on the pilot lately. Anything other than support for Obama is viscously attacked. Some kind of tolerance huh? It is what it is I guess. I'm like you, Mitt was a liberals dream come true. Either way that election went was in their favor, but some refused to see it. It's gotten so bad around here you can't say the sky is blue or the grass is green. Hope you're doing well up there in god's country. Stay warm my friend!
packwilleat 6 months ago
Yukon ~ “I’ve thought a lot about why those of us who believe in liberty as a solution, have done so poorly in convincing others of its benefits. If liberty is what we claim it is, the principle that protects all personal, social, and economic decisions necessary for maximum prosperity and the best chance for peace, it should be an easy sell. Yet history has shown that the masses have been quite receptive to the promises of authoritarians, which are rarely, if ever, fulfilled. Should we have authoritarianism, or liberty?"
~ Ron Paul
GJohn 6 months ago
So, the public is "sensible"...until they disagree with you! I voted for Obama - twice - and I have yet to receive any of the "free" stuff that you mentioned. In fact, I don't want any "free" stuff - I am a hard-working American who gets only what I work for. I do believe in helping those less fortunate than myself, something that sends Republicans into spasms of rage. As for those who think only "Christians" would vote for Romney, I often ask myself "WWJD? - What would Jesus do?" before making a decision - and I know He wouldn't be living in a gated community or investing His money in off-shore accounts to avoid paying taxes on it.
njc17 6 months ago
I hear and see the I I I I stuff. Grow up! this is AN ENTITLEMENT society. Obama has INCREASEthe unemployment rolls, INCREASED the foodstamp rolls, has shut down much of the fossil energy production ON FEDERAL lands . Obama policies have thrown good money after bad in alternative energies which are in no way ready for production. Taxing the rich is the dunbest idea. The Obama mantra of even up the pot is pure socialism. G John if you haven't seen free stuff good for you. But with the huge increase in the unemployment rolls and Obama increasing the taxes on small business, increasing the healthcare costs on small business. the rolls will grow ever bigger. and the free stuff will flow ever wider and the free stuff you will crave.
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
Same old failed wingnut message: "Republicans are hard working job creators and everyone who disagrees with us just does so because they're lazy moochers."
Keep pushing that message. And keep losing.
You're not going to secede. You're not going to rebel. You're not going to do squat. You're just going to sit behind your little keyboards typing angrily and spewing bile as you alienate more and more voters and become more and more irrelevant. When you've all died off, we'll shake our heads sadly and go "what the heck was WRONG with those people?"
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
Mitt Romney ‘gifts’ remark raises ire within GOP
After stumping hard for Mitt Romney in the presidential campaign, several of the Republican Party’s rising stars are now berating him as divisive and potentially damaging to the GOP’s future. Governors Bobby Jindal of Louisiana and Scott Walker of Wisconsin assailed Romney’s comments this week that President Obama’s reelection was due to “gifts” he lavished on such “special-interest groups” as minorities, women, and young people. The governors have been joined by important party strategists such as Steve Schmidt, who managed Senator John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign, and Ana Navarro, a leading Hispanic adviser, who tweeted on Thursday: “As if he didn’t do enuf harm to GOP w/Latinos, he leaves us THIS parting ‘gift.’ ” For a party that predicted victory right up to Election Day, this rising criticism seems to reflect an urgent desire to put distance between Romney’s words and a sense that the GOP needs to retool in a more diverse America.
APOSTATES! THROW THEM OUT! BURN THEM! BURN THEM!
madstork 6 months ago
GJohn, I believe all Christians, regardless of political persuasion would help those who need some help….life ain’t easy. Those who refuse to help themselves “up” and demand others support them makes my skin crawl.
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
This is just too delicious...
Republicans Resist Calls to Retool
"Two weeks after their presidential election defeat, Republican Party leaders are falling into roughly two camps as they struggle to explain what happened and devise ways to broaden the party's base," the Wall Street Journal reports. "Some top GOP officials worry their message is wrong for a rapidly diversifying population, and that fundamental shifts in policy may be required. But the more dominant voice, and the one gaining currency within the center of the party, says such drama isn't necessary." "It asserts that Mitt Romney's loss to President Barack Obama was primarily a tactical failure, a combination of poor articulation of GOP positions and a weak effort to register voters and move them to the polls. Better execution on both, they say, would have swung the few hundred thousand votes in a few states that would have tipped the presidential election the other way."
This is the civil war I really want to see.
jimt 6 months ago
ncj17,
Per, 101's comment, I personally don't think this country is ripe for an armed revolution. The government has the overwhelming capacity to shut it down before it could gain any traction militarily. And as I noted above, I'm fine with the succession of the states noted.
But hey, prove me wrong. Maybe you and 101 can get together and launch in initial armed "action" against the government that will start one. McVeigh failed to do so. But in your estimation, and that of the other pathological paranoid pychopaths that are your natural constituency, perhaps you'll convince yourselves that you'll succeed. So go for it.
As a model for your first action, might I suggest that of the suicide squad as portrayed in the crucifixion scene from Monty Python's "Life of Brian."
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
might I suggest that of the suicide commandos as portrayed in the crucifixion scene from Monty Python'd "Life of Brian."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUHk2RSMCS8
njc17 6 months ago
Dusty, has there ever been a time you actually said something salient? Can you contribute anything constructive to a conversation?
packwilleat 6 months ago
Dusty ~ alright man, I give up. Obama is not a Socialist. He's more like your boy BUSH........
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/44318/a-real-socialist-explains-why-obama-isn%E2%80%99t-one-of-them%E2%80%A6/
packwilleat 6 months ago
by Randy
drefleury 6 months ago
Thought this was pretty funny: http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/80714812.html
Courseaire 6 months ago
On the lighter side, I had to share this with ya'll:
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
Chris Christie Disagrees With Mitt Romney's 'Gifts' Comment
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) said Friday that he agreed that former GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney's recent comment on a conference call with donors that President Barack Obama won reelection because of "gifts" to minority and young voters was wrong. Christie was asked if he concurred with Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R), who called Romney's remark "wrong." "Yeah, sure," he said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," and then pivoted to discuss his fellow Republican governors. Pressed on the remark, he said, "You can't expect to be a leader of all the people and be divisive. You have to talk about themes, policies that unite people, and play to their aspirations and their goals and their hopes for their family and their neighbors."
So, jackson, njc17, pinewood, fuggy, et. al--which side of the Republican Civil War are you going to pick? Romney/Ryan or Christie/Jindal? The side that says "everyone who didn't vote for us is a leech and we're going to keep saying that till they vote for us" or the side that says "we need to reach out to all Americans"?
Your answers, please...
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
Or you could always do what Herman Cain suggests, take the Teabags and form a third party. That would be awesome.
Courseaire 6 months ago
As loosers, we are only 3% away, not an insurmountable amount to make up. Pretty much depends on what happens over the next 4 years.
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
But how do you intend to do it, Courseaire? That's the question. Take the Romney/Ryan "us against the Horde" approach or go more moderate? Look at the people raving here about "entitlement society" and such, and I don't see much hope that they've learned anything.
packwilleat 6 months ago
Dusty ~ you keep talking about teabaggers. So, if we are the teabaggers....... wouldn't that technically make you the teabaggEE......?? Hope you like 'em salty!!
Courseaire 6 months ago
We got 3 years to fix it, plus you'll have Hillary. If BHO does fix it all in the next 4 years & turns the economy around, then I'd be more than happy to vote Democratic. In fact I did vote for 1 democrat this last election (I would not vote for any incumbent).
JD 6 months ago
I think it's funny that the party has gotten so crazy Bobby Jindal is the voice of reason. Time to welcome back the moderate republican party and point and laugh at the angry haters.
njc17 6 months ago
Dusty regardless what the "republican Party Tea Party or Green party, says or does, My feelings are based on PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY> A person should be responsible for his/her actions good, bad or indifferent. My feelings on the nation are, The United States was a group of individual states banded together for mutual interests and protection and this New nation never intended thet a totally federal nation should arise from these humble beginnings.We were a States Rights nation, States first and the Federal to handle border and intraborder issues. I am against all the entitlements now issued [ and before you poke a smarmy crack here-- Social Security was not SUPPOSED to be an "entitlement" ] I don't mind regulated food stamps for the truly needy, or a limited amount of unemployment] There are needs but you either give a man a fish for the day or teach him to fish and let him catch his own. Now In this nation of 300million + who dwell here and look for the streets of gold here. Our ancestors worked for what little they could get and became sucessful. We have a federal government pushing union controlled work and mr and mrs America are being push from the workforce by union power, or overregulation by federal authorities, who should not even have that power. [this is just a start of my dissertation]
turntheothercheek 6 months ago
I'm so sick of hearing this "freebies" crap! This is another load put out there, to cover up why Biden and Obama did win. First off, Biden is more of a man then most men could even pretend to be. Look into his record people! Second, we already faught for civil rights and womens rights, but if somehow the Romney/Ryan ticket had made it, with their 47%/30% mentality then we would be back in the days when if you aren't a well off white man, well screw you. Women deserve the right to decide what happens with their own bodies, newsflash people, insurance doesn't cover abortions! Also, we think the LGBT community should get the same rights as the rest of us, not special rights, the same rights. Plus, we also believe in candidates that can actually tell us a plan, and not give us the run around of a "5 point plan" that they aren't willing to lay out. The election is over, Obama is President because we voted him that way, so it's time to move on. The only question now is with the Republican party do what's best for the country and work with Obama, or are they going to do their best to waste time and tax payers dollars to try to block progress at every turn?
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
What side will I choose, the side that is against whichever side you pledge
Well that's a sound basis for a political philosophy.
I don't have a dog in that fight, jackson. So you'll have to choose on your own without me having to help you.
But I strongly suspect you'll pick the divisive, hateful side.
You know, the losers.
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
I think it's funny that the party has gotten so crazy Bobby Jindal is the voice of reason.
I know, right? The guy who claims to have conducted an exorcism is the sane one.
packwilleat 6 months ago
The question is..... what side to you think the military will take??
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
They'll fulfill their duty to obey lawful orders given to them by duly constituted civilian authority.
Why, do you fantasize that they'll turn traitor like you dream of doing (but will never actually do)?
jimt 6 months ago
And his "reasonableness" includes using tax money to teach creationism in public schools. But apparently there is some serious devision brewing among the creationists. I've recently read that contrary to the position that the earth is 6,000 years old, give or take a few hundred years; now some are stating that the earth is 9,000 years old, give or take a few hundred years. Oh the "-hit" is really gonna start flying now.
njc17, I predict that any University worthy of such a designation, is not going to grant you a Ph.D. based only the opening premise of your "dissertation." Stick to armed revolution starting, much easier than writing a dissertation.
packwilleat 6 months ago
Dusty ~ O is not gaining a lot of popularity with our active/retired service men/women.......
http://militaryhandbooks.com/report-cut-military-personnel-retirement-and-health-care-to-fund-alternative-energy-climate-security/
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
That must be why he's gotten so many donations from them...
Report: Obama surges in campaign donations from military members
And this, which is more recent:
Update: Armed Forces Show Overwhelming Support for Obama
Foreign policy, military funding and plans for U.S. troops abroad are providing plenty of chewy campaign fodder for President Barack Obama and his GOP rival, Mitt Romney. But fundraising reports shed light on what the armed forces think about the the candidates. Former Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul received significant support from the military for his strong stance on bringing troops home, and that briefly continued even after Romney pulled ahead as the clear GOP candidate. Now, though, the military's support has shifted toward Obama. Romney has consistently received little financial backing from military donors. Despite the fact that Paul once raised almost twice as much as Obama did from the military, the president has received $536,414 from military donors, compared to Paul's $399,274 and Romney's $287,435, according to research by the Center for Responsive Politics. These numbers are based on donations greater than $200, as reported to the Federal Election Commission.
Also: Military campaign money favors President Obama
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2012/05/military-campaign-donations-obama/1#.UKahGYfoTNJ
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
Shorter 101jackson: I HAZ ANECDOTES! I IS WINNIN!'
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
Still haven't answered my question, pack...do you think the military will betray their country if you do?
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
Do you think the military will levy war against the US? Yes? Or no?
cooldaddy 6 months ago
aaaaa today we have a huge job loss for America. I hate it. I 100 percent pull for our President and Country. This administration cannot blame the last 4 years on someone else. They may never take responsibility for the probable social chaos they are creating and will economically bankrupt over the 8 years. I hope for better, but it just does not look good. Find me an economics professor or a cfo of ANY mid to large corporation that thinks this administration is on a good path...please. I need assurance...not gloating partyrats affirmations. Maybe we can go another cool trillion in debt and save the twinkie and pay the union more than they are worth for less than they should do. After all, isn't a socialist country just one big union? How about the tax on businesses for obamacare. That should help drive some out...already is!. Our prices have to go up or they will lose, or make little profit. I know the socialists don't get that one.
Aberdeeniac 6 months ago
Why our Country is Going Down The Drain by FernwoodPatriot
Arestorer 6 months ago
Our prices have to go up or they will lose, or make little profit. I know the socialists don't get that one.
So, Raise your prices Capitalist.....
packwilleat 6 months ago
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Yukonjohn 6 months ago
Packwilleat, I see how things are going. All we want is to be left alone to our own devices, and have our states live in harmony and peace. It is certainly not looking like the majority of Americans feel that way. As you had said earlier, it should be an "easy sell" but, getting benefits from the largess of govt. is an easier sell to the masses. We still have some degree of liberty left here, but it is freaking cold!! It is midday here and my thermometer is struggling to get above 30 below zero!! It is beautiful, sunny (for the few hours it is "up") but one has to look at it from inside the house....it is not much fun to be outside unless you are doing something really fun. Hope you are having a great day there today.
Noluv4thugs 6 months ago
Don't worry Pack. If revolution breaks out and there is a civil uprising we'll just go by DR's house and take his stuff. Should be enough food to last for months. Switch it up and "strong arm" a lawyer. Bet he won't like it when the tables are turned. Try and not waste your energy on him he isn't worth it.
PS @thepilot why aren't you covering your boy? You had so much love for him just a week ago. I guess it sounds worse to say, "we the pilot endorse a liar"
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
Dusty ~ no I do not think they will levy war against the citizens of the US.
So your question "which side do you think the military will take" is answered. And your fantasy of secession remains just that: the pathetic imaginings of a wannabe traitor.
Yukonjohn 6 months ago
Hey Packwilleat, I saw this yesterday on Fedsmith.com. It is RP talking about how the founders did not see seccession as a bad thing. They had just done it from England, and he says (and rightfully so) that we "came together" voluntarily, and we should be able to leave the same way. It is a short interesting piece.
http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-the-founders-believed-in-secession
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
Dear wingnuts: please consider the following, and realize that you're continuing to lose the argument:
Obama favorability reaches three-year high
President Obama's favorability rating has reached its highest point since 2009, according to Gallup data released Friday. In a recent tracking poll, the firm finds Obama with a 58 percent positive rating among all Americans — a three point bump from his favorability rating from a survey taken days before the election. The last time Obama's favorability rating registered his highly was his 66 percent positive rating in July 2009. His highest positive number ever recorded by Gallup was 78 percent — just before his inauguration as president. "Obama now enjoys as positive an image in the eyes of Americans as he has at any point in the last three years," Gallup concludes. The Democratic Party has also increased its favorability rating since Election Day. They're now viewed positively by 52 percent of Americans, up from 45 percent before the election.
Aberdeeniac 6 months ago
Dusty please see my youtube video above.......
The_AnonymusProfit 6 months ago
Ok, so I was waiting on the article that would bring about the Atypical conversation on here.
I am going to ask a question, I want answers from democrats...
When is enough enough>?
BTW Yes Were F**ked and were all going to burn in Hell for this.
The_AnonymusProfit 6 months ago
BTW are you ready for the smoke screen by both parties?
BegaziGate, Bring on the Impeachment proceedings, I mean how predictable have we become.
So sad, people used to think for themselves.
I went to the DMV today to go get a new ID while I was there I became a registered Libertarian.
jimt 6 months ago
Becoming a "registered" Libertarian reminds me of an event I witnessed in 1972. A bunch of self-proclaimed anarchists (black flag and everything) from Arizona St. were frantically trying to find out where they were slotted to march in an anti-war demonstration being held in L.A. I thought that was very funny. Most of my friends didn't seem to get the joke.
Speaking of jokes, there was this Libertarian..........
turntheothercheek 6 months ago
I would like to personally thank drefleury for the craigslist link he posted here. That might be the funniest and best ideas I've head in a LONG time! Thanks Dre!!!
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
Libertarians provided the margin for Democrats in at least nine elections.
Thanks, TAP!
GJohn 6 months ago
"Did you ever notice that no one wanted to secede from the union when George Bush was president, and he started a war in Iraq based on lies, and then wasted 39, 365 dead and wounded lives, 132,000 Iraqi civilian lives, and 1.4 trillion dollars? Why is that?" Attributed to Andy Rooney, but true no matter who said it.
jimt 6 months ago
But we still need to ask ourselves, would the U.S. sans the states I indicated as secession candidates, be a better or worse country, based on the objectives, values, ideals, what have you of those of us who were quite pleased to see the Republican's getting their ass kicked?
Why keep people among you who absolutely and unreasonably hate you?
Good-bye and good-riddence, I say. Let's see how well they succeed in a country based on Libertarian economics and christian fundamentalism.
moonchild7 6 months ago
The Republican party is just OVER-FLOWING with RACIST JERKS and that's why so many of them want to secede. Here's some news guys: You already tried that back in the 1860's, it's done and you lost, so just move to another country. My Liberal Republican friend voted for President Obama, she said there was no way she could vote for Romney/Ryan with their backwards social "agenda's". She didn't even vote for McCory. Wow. It looks like a new group of "somewhat more sensible' Republicans might be taking over the Party? It'll be interesting.
Yukonjohn 6 months ago
The country is split 50/50. How does one split the urban from the rural? Who wants the urban? I think we should have some kind of national referendum and see what we want to do. Obviously we do not want to live together. And there are many of us that do not want to live with either side. I KNOW l am in the correct place. We are pretty much all alike up here, but we are losing ground to the cityfied liberals. They get so upset at the way we live, and yet they stay. We are far from the religious right also...not as many bars as their used to be, but it is a hard partying, hard working, roudy crowd here, that let everyone "live and let live".
fugitiveguy 6 months ago
"My Liberal Republican friend voted for President Obama"
Well, my hetero lesbian friend voted for Romney.
packwilleat 6 months ago
Yukon ~ there is apparently no compromise with the left today. It's sad to say that you and I are more socially liberal than the entire lot of them. They will never understand fiscal conservatism or individual property rights. And to make it worse, they also don't understand that gov't intervention is to blame for the corruption they detest. But hey, that's just human nature for ya, keep putting faith in authority instead of thinking for yourself and taking personal responsibility. Kinda reminds me of the old saying "freedom is not free"....... but many fail to properly define freedom these days.
turntheothercheek 6 months ago
What about the "freedom" to marry whomever we wish? What about the “freedom” of all Americans to have the same rights, not special rights, the same? What about the "freedom" to do what we want with our own bodies? Freedom is a word that is being used to often as a hash tag.
Freedom would mean that you want all people to be equal and have the freedom to live their lives free from the judgments of the hard right. I'm not saying all Reps, because I simply don't believe that all of the Republican Party is as judgmental and ignorant to the ways the world is changing. But the far right is what I'll never agree to compromise with. Not the Rep party as a whole, but anyone who is aligned with or part of that far right, well, simply put is not working for the good of the country, and certainly not for the good of women, they are only looking out for themselves.
I think it's been said enough lately. Either the Rep party can one, decide to break away from the far right. They can two, take a good long look at the part and see why this election was lost and what changes need to be made to conform to the youth and changing Nation. Or three, they can basically fade away. Personally I'd like to see the half of the Rep party that has true common since and morals to break away from the top of the soap box far right extremists that are pulling the entire party down. That would give the Dems a party that they could work with. I just don't see it happening.
The_AnonymusProfit 6 months ago
so much crap
I see no democrat bothered to answer my question.
Does anyone on this blog even know who G Washington was? How about Ben Franklin. I seriously doubt it.
njc17 6 months ago
AAAHHHHHH JimT; where do you get this stuff? Why do you pick on something you know nothing about? I speak of values. Evidently you have none. I speak of personal responsibility evidently you have no idea what that is.I speak of Christian attitudes and ethos clearly you don't have that. So why do you argue? It seems that you , Dusty and a few others are quite intolerant when it comes to personal rights and the ideate of conservatism. You do well when you quote the Messiah, you have the party line down well. Obfuscate the story and no one can tell truth from fiction. I'll be here for a while until the editorial staff comes to your rescue.
The_AnonymusProfit 6 months ago
Ill take a mark out of Michelle Obamas book.
For the first time in my life, I am Ashamed of my country.
The_AnonymusProfit 6 months ago
BTW Moonron
The original context of your party was for SMALL GOVERNMENT, Individual liberty, and fiscal responsibility, (sound like a current party?) but eventually they changed, causing the election of the first Republican President...Any guess as to who that was? Let me tell you since I know you have no clue, his name was Abraham Lincoln. The DEMOCRATS seceded from the Union causing the Civil war,
After Lincolns assassination the Democratic party began creating Jim Crow Laws segregating the black population from the white population. It wasnt until the GOP broke the back of segregation that black people got true freedom,
But the Democrat party wasnt finished, they adopted Modern Day Slavery in the form of "social welfare" and put blacks right back into slavery. And they still exist in this bondage today.
And of course lets not forget how much of this was accomplished...Hats off to Woodrow Wilson who is the father of the modern public education system which has crippled now 2 generations of Americans and has destroyed the rich heritage that was once our founding principles.
See moon isnt history great? O wait....THATS YOUR PARTY.
Yall make me sick.
Yukonjohn 6 months ago
njc17, I am all for you being able to do whatever you choose. If you want to worship all day every day, that is fine with me, more power to you. If l want to sit around drinking liquor or smoking dope all day, then you should offer me the same choice. That is what l have such a problem with the Repubs over. They want govt. out of your life, but only as long as you live like they think the Bible tells them you should. The Repubs have lost women possibly forever, and they have lost me too. Why are they so hell-bent on running everyone's personal lives?
The_AnonymusProfit 6 months ago
by The_AnonymusProfit
This is the face of the Democratic Party.
The_AnonymusProfit 6 months ago
I dont reach lows 101Jackson, I tell how it is, sorry if you cant handle it, I refuse to be politically correct, if that offends you well...I dont give a rats ass.
jimt 6 months ago
Dear Pilot site-monitor,
Methinks TAP has entered "Prometheus" territory (for those of us who remember "P").
Bye TAP. You won't be missed.
Yukonjohn 6 months ago
TAP, Your attitude and posting is a prime example why the Repbus did as well as they did this past election. Good work.
The_AnonymusProfit 6 months ago
Jimmy I wont get banned dont you worry,
Yukon, Answer me this why can my party be called murders, racists, thief's, bigots, sexists, homophobes, greedy bastards, etc etc etc... AND ITS OK
My Attitude and posting are directly correlated to the fundemntal lack of understanding of how this country works, how it was founded, and how it is being destoryed,
You gotta wake up people, BTW Yukon, Legalizing drugs is a REALLY REALLY bad idea. There is no statistic you can site, there is no explanation that you can give that can make any rational person think that legalizing cocaine, heroine, crystal meth is a good idea.
Thatcher 6 months ago
I'm speechless. This thread is so sad.
Yukonjohn 6 months ago
Thatcher, I agree.
TAP, l would never call you those names. As far as the legalization of drugs goes, did you not study history about prohibition? This is ending the same way it did. It should have never been an issue, but now America is waking up. You will see how well the Colorado and Washington state initiatives will work, and l imagine that other states will rapidily follow suit. Now if we can just get some sane monetary policies in place and stop these stupid wars that we find to fight all over the world, things will get better. But as Thatcher has so astutely said, "this thread is so sad".
njc17 6 months ago
Yukon John, When have I ever said that one must be a Bible thumper? Please do not, from your own guilt's sake, put words or thoughts into what I say. You may live as you please, BUT when actions begin to affect others in a negative way, then such actions must be curtailed. That is why this nation has a minimum 2 party system. Each party has their own plarforms and ideates. What I say is , I adhere to a value system that espouses God, Family, Country , That encourages personal responsibility instead of government subsidies, States Rights as engendered by the Constitution,. You want to live as the proverbial grasshopper relying on the ant when the times get rough, that is your priviledge. But sooner or later the largess run out, dear friend, and you will whine that the government didn't do enough. As to the name calling here, it is so unnecessary, it only shows that some here have no understanding of their positions so they resort to blowing smoke as a cover. Beat a drum often enough you will get noticed, usually not in a good way.
DannySteen 6 months ago
Turntheothercheek. The only entity that can keep you from those “Freedoms” you are whinging on about, is “GOVERNMENT”. Not some wingnut far right holy of the hillbilly church. Only “GOVERNMENT” can keep you from being free. The more power you give the beast the less you have. Sure it will grant permission to marry who you will, and more power to ya, but it will take far more from you. Here is an idea. How about we stop giving power to government and live as we choose. For those who think that any “Civil War” will be started by a bunch right wingnut Billy Bob’s or toy soldier militia think again. Those guys will be settled in their bunkers hoping to wait it out. No. If there will be any unrest it will come when the checks stop coming and the government cards stop working. The military will be too busy trying to stop the Zombie Apocalypse to worry about Billy Bob and the boys. When the commune collapses what will you do then? You may want to stay away from the punch bowl.
The_AnonymusProfit 6 months ago
101 your a dope,
Yukon, I have studied prohibition very well. And I think legalizing Marijuana is fine,...Yukon you can only advocate for legalization of Crystal Meth if you have never personally known a Meth head, you can only advocate for legalization of Heroine if you have never known a Junkie. I was addicted to cocaine, I no the road these types of drugs put people on, legalizing them does not mean they are not bad for you, it just means no punishment for having them.
Yukon you seem like a very rational person, I urge you to take some time a really consider this part of your position, we agree on i would say 95% of things, but the drug thing outside pot we dont. However unlike some, I respect your freedom to have that position.
Also if you want to have a discussion on drugs id be more then willing to tell you about my experiences.
The_AnonymusProfit 6 months ago
NJC17,DannySteen
Great posts. I used to try to be rational but its no use, not here,
Yukonjohn 6 months ago
.I speak of Christian attitudes and ethos clearly you don't have that. So why do you argue?
Sorry, njc17, I just saw that comment and made an assumption. My apologies.
TAP, my step-daughter died because of meth. Personally, I did all the drugs, albeit many, many years ago. I think you should not tell anyone what they can/cannot do with their body. As far as addiction, the people that end up addicted and horribly addicted, they will die. At that time, they are no drain on medical services or social services. The govt. is the most inefficient organization on earth, they should have no "dog in this fight". They are further away from "winning" the drug war today than they were when Richard Nixon started it.
Thatcher 6 months ago
Yukon-- These threads have always been rough and tumble (at least since I joined here a year or so ago), but now the threads typically become reduced to vile name calling, juvenile gloating, and the posting of ghastly photos. Seems the key here is insult. Rarely is there a polite exchange of ideas. There used to be a poster here (sherwood) who debated me alot on economics. Such a bright and pleasant guy, and he sure knew alot. We rarely agreed on anything, but the discourse was civil and polite. I hope he decides to return. Then there was JER, who many on my side disliked, but who I thought was extremely intelligent (although too liberal for many here), and made many excellent points. We rarely agreed on anything, also, but I grew quite fond of him, because (at least with me) he always was tough but respectful and civil at the same time. He left. I hope he comes back, because he's 10 times smarter than any of the liberal posters here. The really sad thing is that whenever someone here calls for more civil discourse, we get labeled as "Preacher," as one poster has done to geoffcutler (a very bright and nice guy). I don't see any improvement here for the near future. We can talk more about this when me and the boys come up there to fish your streams dry. Ha! Be well my friend. Cheers!
packwilleat 6 months ago
Like I said no party truly understands freedom. Yukon and I put your freedom before our own. That's the perspective everyone should have. To realize that your actions determine your negibors future is the first step toward individual liberty.
Yukonjohn 6 months ago
Thatcher, l agree with you. l always liked JER too. Seemed like a pretty bright guy, misguided, but nice. I like alot of the folks on here, but we really do need to have a more civil discourse. Buddy, we will have to exchange emails or something soon so we can discuss your trip up. Please don't come this weekend, it is horrible cold. Not record cold, but pretty dang cold. It seems to be stuck on 32 below tonight. I hope it is stuck there, because l was afraid it was going to get ALOT colder with the clear skies and such!!! My wife is freaking. She is a manager at a pull tab place. It is our substitute for a gambling joint. Several of them have been robbed in the recent past. Tonight they had an armed robbery at a different store. Usually, when it gets cold, the thugs take a break. At least here, someone will stop them hopefully before someone gets killed (other than the thugs) Too scarey....we used to not have crime like this...times are bad. Have a great night my Friend!!
Yukonjohn 6 months ago
Hey Packwilleat, Congratulations, you guys have a hell of a team this year!!! Just so you know, as long as they are not playing my Heels, l root for the Wolfpack!!
GJohn 6 months ago
TAP (Would you learn to spell and use proper grammar?) - I'll answer your question! "When is enough enough?" - I've had enough of you and your outrageous, blind rhetoric. I notice you didn't answer my question above. Also, your picture is a symptom of a very disturbed mind. You should be banned from this site.
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
Dig, wingnuts, dig!
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packwilleat 6 months ago
The land of the free.............................
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121117/AUTO01/211170359/EPA-rejects-bid-to-relax-ethanol-mandate
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
The_AnonymusProfit 14 hours, 20 minutes ago
I went to the DMV today to go get a new ID while I was there I became a registered Libertarian.
From the Libertarian Party Website:
By ending drug prohibition Libertarians would double the resources available for crime prevention, and significantly reduce the number of violent criminals at work in your neighborhood.
The_AnonymusProfit 10 hours, 41 minutes ago
You gotta wake up people, BTW Yukon, Legalizing drugs is a REALLY REALLY bad idea.
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
TAP (Would you learn to spell and use proper grammar?)
I remember when TAP first started posting here, his profile said he was a graduate of George Washington University. Then he started dropping hints to me of who he actually is until I figured it out, after which that lie vanished down the memory hole. Just to be crystal clear, he didn't attend GWU.
He's actually appeared in the pages of this paper before, but in the news rather than the comments, and under his real name. I've been laughing hard at the way some of the right wingers have been patting him on the back, especially since at least one of those very same posters had had some pretty harsh things to say about him in comments on the news stories.
Now, it looks like he's gone completely off the deep end in reaction to the Romney loss and gone too far for even some of the crazies.
The_AnonymusProfit 6 months ago
U no something. I have lost it. So has america. O well
Yukonjohn 6 months ago
Pack, Back in the early 90s, our Gov. Wally Hickel (who ran under the AIP, Alaska Independence Party banner) told the EPA to back off and they did. The EPA was making us use oxygenated fuel with the additive MTBE in it. It had been cold weather tested in Denver, but when we started using it here, it was making people sick. It was to curb air pollution. The doctors offices were full of people with breathing problems. We finally went to Gov. Hickel about it. He agreed that we should not use it anymore, and told the EPA that we were emptying our tanks of fuel with it in there, and that we would not be using it anymore. They backed down right away. IMHO, we shoujld do away with the EPA. That is another argument for another day. I guess we are some of those folks that want dirty air and dirty water.
Yukonjohn 6 months ago
http://www.newsminer.com/view/full_story/20863806/article-Pollution-levels-at-unhealthy-levels-in-North-Pole--Fairbanks?instance=home_news_window_left_top_3
It is still an issue here about the air, but regardless of the picture in the comments of this article, most of that is steam, and our air, while not good because of inversions, is not that bad.
JD 6 months ago
ITT:
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
Well, THAT was odd....
moonchild7 6 months ago
Okay, sounds good to me "NotForProfitMan", you are just beyond ignorant. The DIXIECRATS went on to help "reform" the Old Republican Party into what it is today; when it became evident that the "New" Democratic Party had become the Party of Civil Rights, Equality, Fairness and Progressiveness. When you take a stand against the legalization of drugs, you take a stand against FREEDOM & LIBERTY; no matter how destructive they can be. Being bale to have an abortion in America was made legal by our Supreme Court in 1973. It no longer needs to be DEBATED. You are beyond GROSS TAP. Did any of you read about the young woman in Ireland who DIED from the miscarriage she was having because abortions are illegal there, except for in the case of SAVING the MOTHER...Except that the hospital refused to perform the abortion. SHE DIED from THE GROSS NEGLIGANCE of people who should have known better. Can anyone understand anything? And what's a hetero lesbian? Not very smart, I guess fugitiveguy.
pinewoodnc 6 months ago
Reading this blog is a prime example why this country is going not into the sewer, but under it. Total lack of civility and down right crude, nasty name calling. Some talk about freedom of speech, yet freedom only if you AGREE with their opinion. That is plainly a hypocrite. Seems to be many on this blog. Too bad some civility cannot exist on this website. WHY do so many of you bother to get into any kind of dialogue with DR. I think he is allowed to continue his nastiness because the folks running this paper are of the same political leanings.
Thatcher 6 months ago
pinewoodnc-- You are 100% correct. Cheers!
skylinefirepest 6 months ago
SPUWS...right to CHOOSE??? You're kidding, right??? It is not a right to choose...it is a right to murder legally, is it not?? If you liberals are so dead set on not bringing a child into this world then DON'T MAKE THE CHILD. Really simple isn't it? And if anybody doesn't like TAP putting a picture of an aborted fetus on here then you really haven't given much thought about it other than spouting bullhockey about your RIGHTS, have you?? What did you think it was going to look like, huh?? Offends your poor little liberal sensibilities, does it? It hurt your widdle feelings!!
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
Pinewood, no one's threatening your freedom of speech. You're free to whine all you want abut how mean I am and how the editors let me get away with it, and I'm free to call you a dimwit because of it. If you're that offended, just quit reading and posting here. No one will notice.
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
Note that, in typical fashion, pinewood's all snippy about me not being "civil" and completely ignoring TAP's posts in this thread. I guess pinewood's another one of those people who only requires "civility" of liberals. Which is why your protestations about it mean exactly nothing, other than giving me more to mock.
turntheothercheek 6 months ago
skylinefirepest~ funny you should bring up not making the child in the first place... dosn't the far right want to take away women's right to purchace birthcontrol with their insurance? And I'm not even talking about medicaid, I'm talking about the insurance that I pay out of pocket for. But hey, it's not ok for women to get BC with their paid for insurance, but it's ok for Men to get crap like Viagra? Double standards, if it's for the benefit of men, it's just fine. If it's for the benefit of women, well, men think they have the right to control it. Simply put, if the abortion comments hadn't been out there during the election cycle, maybe Mitt could have won.
Plus, putting a picture of anything dead on here is low rent and tacky. And it's just another example of the extreme lows some will go to in an attempt to make a point.
Yukonjohn 6 months ago
DR, I swear this is not directed at you specifically, but for all of us. Why is it that it seems Americans are so hateful and vile to each other now? The commenters on this site are a microcosm of America, and yet, while we are all Americans that profess to love our country (each other) we are so vile to one another? It baffles my mind and confounds my thinking. I know some of us are vets. We served with other Americans, all colors, all beliefs even many cultures, but yet we served side by side. Where is the civility? I just don't understand, but do appreciate those on here that engage in debate without hate.
Thatcher 6 months ago
Yukon-- It's what liberals do. Cheers!
pinewoodnc 6 months ago
First of all, I am not a label. Secondly, DR, I rest my case!
Thatcher 6 months ago
pinewoodnc-- Once again, you are 100% correct. Cheers!
pinewoodnc 6 months ago
Also, DR, I have the right to read and post here if I choose. You DO NOT own these blogs contrary to your high opinion. I notice that the only time you post is when it is a topic that you can spew your name calling and hateful attitude as if everyone else is STUPID and you are the reigning genius. Of course, I believe that one of the first classes in law school is "Arrogance 101" at least that is what a law student told me one time!
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
Again, pinewood, you're arguing against a position I haven't taken. This is the sign of a weak and flaccid mind at work.
To paraphrase Forrest Gump: stupid is as stupid posts. If you don't want to be called stupid, stop saying stupid things.
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pinewoodnc 6 months ago
Apparently, DR, you cannot read. You must be a really sad person if the only way you can feel good about yourself is to trash other people. Definitely an ego problem and low self-esteem.
Thatcher 6 months ago
"If you don't want to be called stupid, stop saying stupid things." Translation: If you post anything I disagree with, it is stupid. I, and I alone, get to say what is stupid...especially if you disagree with me. Your post is stupid. And I have the right to call you stupid. And a racist. See how it works? Cheers!
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
Definitely an ego problem and low self-esteem.
pinewood, contrary to popular belief, having an Internet connection doesn't automatically qualify you to do psychoanalysis. Your belief that is does is more evidence that you're a fool. The fact that you continue to rail against me and ignore the "incivility" of others is more evidence that you're a hypocrite. Given all of that, what possible reason would I have for giving you an ounce of credence?
pinewoodnc 6 months ago
There is other incivility on the blogs granted, but no other person (NO OTHER) jumps onto the subjects that involve political issues and proceeds to call others names (wingnuts, stupid, idiots, fools, etc.) and be just generally rude. I am not saying ANYTHING that others have not also posted. Just doesn't sink in, does it? If a blog is about local issues or happenings, we don't hear anything from you. Only when it is a political issue, do you jump right in to start your trashing and boasting. It doesn't take a psychiatrist to tell there is definitely ego problems with someone that posts in the fashion that you do.
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
So only posting about "political" issues means I have "ego problems"?
What a bizarre statement.
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packwilleat 6 months ago
Don't worry pinewood. Dusty is a classic narcissist. He feeds off of others agreeing with him, like his little fan boy southernsjcnviensabcib here. Unlike him, if I find people agreeing with what I say, I fear that I might have said something wrong. Dusty is the poster boy for the dunning-kruger effect. He also loves to be called a douche bag and especially loves being called an a-hole. ;-)
pinewoodnc 6 months ago
DR, just learn to read before you comment!
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
WHY do so many of you bother to get into any kind of dialogue with DR.
Why? Because you can't help yourselves. I throw the ball, you chase the ball. I throw the ball, you chase the ball.
pinewoodnc 6 months ago
Packwilleat, the man is just what I believe they call a flamer. It makes him feel good about himself to call others names and act like he is intellectually superior. Too bad he doesn't really see what it makes him look like. Have to feel sorry for someone like that.
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
Dusty is a classic narcissist.
You amateur Internet shrinks need to get your stories straight.
Thatcher 6 months ago
Sad.
pinewoodnc 6 months ago
DR, you really make me laugh. Everyone could use a laugh and you certainly are good at suppling it. I don't get on these blogs but about once a month or so and sometime I just feel like having a laugh at someone like you that just loves to show off.
moonchild7 6 months ago
Civility has to take a backseat at times when many people on here just continue to utter STUPID, IGNORANT, and HATEFUL RHETORIC. So many of you go on and on and on about FREEDOM, LIBERTY, and the CONSTITUTION, yet argue personal opinions that are in direct contrast or opposition to that concept. Roe v Wade legalized abortions in America and under stringent guidelines. It is the law so the right-winged nutz need to stop arguing over it. No one, except TAP that is, has to have anything what-so-ever to do with a woman needing an abortion. Have your beliefs against this law but stop pursuing its eradication. It is needed. The woman in Ireland who was DENIED an abortion DIED after begging for one for FOUR days while hospitalized. She DIED from blood poisoning three days after that. She was tortured and suffered at the hands of the medical profession that had taken an oath against such behavior. What happened to that woman in Ireland was because of the LACK of CHRISTIAN MORALS and COMPASSION Mr. Rich Moran. Surely you understand that, don't you? Because if you don't, then you haven't a CLUE Mr. Rich Moran. President Obama is one of the most moral, caring and intelligent Presidents we've ever had. Mr. Mitt Romney is by far the IMMORAL one.
Thatcher 6 months ago
Well....
packwilleat 6 months ago
Dusty ~ if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck........ brother you have built your own image around here. Time to wallow in it.
Yukonjohn 6 months ago
MC7, I was right with you up to the end. I just do not see President Obama as a moral, caring and intelligent anything but a lawyer. I guess he would classify as those things in a lawyer. He is an abject failure as President. Granted, he was handed a bum deal, but his way of getting us out of it is not working. Mitt Romney would have been equally as bad had he won, but we will never know that.
moonchild7 6 months ago
The failures that you see Yukonjohn are what seems to be the issue. America has FAILED in so many ways but she has LEARNED from those failings and moved on. What President Obama faced on day one of his Presidency iin 2009 is absolutely incomprehensible to me. So many problems that had their roots in the three, four and even five Presidencies before him. Of course he's not perfect and in no way do I think all of his decisions have been correct. I have many qualms but I am hopeful that he is truely trying to do what is best for America. She has not seen her last days. I am hopeful that the answers that are needed to solve her Finacial and Social issues for a long time to come will be quickly dealt with by our Congress. Not that any of you care (except Thatcher, thank you) but just to continue into a bit of my son's news from NYC it has been an ULTRA disater there as you know. While he managed to not be without electricity, heat or phone, at his apt., very many others were not so lucky. He's worked an extrodianary amount of overtime, while his office in Lower Manhattan was without heat or phone for a week. He has confided that he now thinks he wants to return to NC in a year or so after experiencing life in the greatest city in the world. I never thought he'd want to return south to this state but he says Mother Nature, the extremely fast pace, excessive human misery and his wanting to own his own home has helped to change his mind. So, you see Yukonjohn, nothing is for certain, including your belief that America is doomed. It's just not so.
Yukonjohn 6 months ago
MC7, I honestly hope you are right and l am wrong, but do not believe so. If you are right, everything gets much better and life is good. If l am right, the once greatest nation on earth will perish. It is already something our grandparents would not have recognized, but in all honesty l hope for the United States that you are right. If not, I know l am in a good, safe, secure place. Life is good here, now that it has temporarily warmed up for a day or two.
Yukonjohn 6 months ago
Oh and MC7, Did you see that Hostess is going under. One would think with Washington and Colorado legalizing pot, that the twinkie business would have gone nuts!! Instead, the President's buddies, the unions shut them down. 30 percent of the workers forcing the 70 percent to lose their jobs. Hmmmmm I am not totally anti-union, but the unions feel empowered now, and l guess they are. Just another problem with the current administration.
SH59 6 months ago
Rich, it's astounding to me that there is such a large group of people in this country who choose to ignore science, think women should maintain a submissive role in society, are arrogant enough to think they are a superior class of people, think immigrants aren't necessary to our economy and should be sent back, want to control what people choose to do in their bedrooms and lives, ignore the diversity of religion and ethnicity of this country and have spent the last 4 years hating our president.
AND YOU WONDER WHAT HAPPENED???????
moonchild7 6 months ago
Yukonjohn, you should like this. Know what my favorite Hostess cupcake is/was? SNOBALLS. Always loved them but almost never ever see them. Sometimes on my ventures to the Northeast I see them....and buy them. This is such a sad story because of course I grew up eating twinkies too. I read that Hostess had annual sales of $2.5 Billion. Now, they say they can't afford to make bread or cupcakes because of the Union Bakers Strike. Several of their bakeries were in the Northeast and of course other Urban areas. It cost's more for people to live in those places, they have to be paid more. It's been shown that minimum and over-all wages must go up so that the middle classes can expand. Hostesses Northeast Bakeries that will be closed are the best example of where things are going wrong. Southeastern, CT is one of the most expensive places to live in the US. It is said that to "live" halfway decently there a family needs to earn at least $200,000 per year. When the average income level is about only $50,000 per yr. Why is that so? Because of Hedgefunders, Bank Executives, NYC Entertainment Personalities and just a lot of very rich people who have chosen to live there. They don't seem to understand though that "THE HELP" have to also be paid good incomes to able to stay, but they don't care. The very wealthy don't want to understand the "plight's" of the the rest of us, so it will be interesting to see what happens to Hostess. Too bad that no one in management had enough smarts or creativeness to keep it going. And Yukonjohn, here's why I know that America will continue her GREATNESS. Back in the late 60's and early 70's the "older" people in my family declared America to be dead or dying....WHY? HIPPIES, they said, they were destroying everything they said. Now, these people had lived thru WW I, WW II and the Depression, yet to them HIPPIES were destroying America. We HIPPIES did not destroy America, did we Yukonjohn? Yes, there have been great issues since those times but we still attack those issues to come up with solutions. I expect that there will be grand solutions this time to "FIX" many, although not all of our problems. Stay warm, Yukonjohn. better times are around the corner. We know what problems need solving the most and even I look forward to seeing them solved. It's exciting now. Now that President Obama has FOUR more years.
JD 6 months ago
Pesty calling someone else a whiner is the pot calling the kettle black. The man has such thin skin he should change his screen name to Pesty_in_a_bubble.
Besides TAPs picture is misleading. Show a pic of a fetus when it is legal to have an abortion. That preemi is obviously past 14 weeks and was probably aborted for the health of the mother. But this is what people like TAP do, lie to look like they are right. I want all the "pro-life" people to answer why they are so for the death penalty then.
by JD
Translation: If you post anything I disagree with, it is stupid. I, and I alone, get to say what is stupid...especially if you disagree with me. Your post is stupid. Cheers!
A delusional paranoid calling people stupid. Well if you weren't constantly trolling and slandering people as DRjr maybe you would have your posts taken seriously. But you're Thatcher and like normal have nothing to contribute but parroting and the occasional rant.
Ever find those quotes or did your wife finally restrict your computer privileges? Cheers, Excelsior!
dustyrhoades 6 months ago
Since the Clinton Administration, "the President has failed to show leadership" is right wing code for "We have have few ideas about how to do things differently, and if we told you the ones we do have, you'd run screaming in the other direction. So we're just going to oppose and obstruct, then blame the President for our mulishness."
pinewoodnc 6 months ago
southernpinesuperwestside, I will go on this website if I choose. I can handle it with the best of them. If you don't like it, too bad. I see another DR wannbe or DR in disguise!!
pinewoodnc 6 months ago
101jackson, you aren't the only one on this site that feels that way.
Yukonjohn 6 months ago
MC7, I see where you are coming from. That said, if a Hostess worker cannot afford to work there and live where they live, find another job or move!! Maybe one has to walk, hitchhike, catch a bus, stowaway on a boat just do something, move. And if the rich folks in CT that want their twinkies, and the bakers cannot afford to live in their midst, then the rich people have decisions to make also. Do THEY do the baking? Do they hire illegals that will work for nothing and horrible conditions? Do they pay more? Do THEY move? Economics have a way of finding what works or not. It is just like water finding a level. Do we use govt to force people to do things with their business that they do not want to do? Is that America? I am kind of glad that the management of Hostess said they were just going to sell out. At least they will keep more of their money instead of keeping it open and going broke.
geoffcutler 6 months ago
I'd never seen a a picture like the one TAP posted. Kind of makes you think twice, though, doesn't it? And the vitriol against TAP for posting it seems odd. Why wouldn't those who support a "woman's right to choose," or those who support abortion, think the photo should somehow be out of bounds? Don't they want all the information available to make informed decisions? Pictures can be powerful, and that's a powerful one.
JD 6 months ago
Because Geoff like most things TAPs picture is misleading. That fetus is past the time it is legal to get an abortion. IF it was aborted and not a preemi picture then it may have been done legally to help the mother.
But people like TAP and you Geoff will lie to look right.
Yukonjohn 6 months ago
southernpinesupperwestside, I am just curious what has made you so hyper-sensitive? After being born there, and going through desegregation at Pinecrest when they shut the school down for a long time in 1970, but now living in a place where there is little racial problems....l see you as just being hyper-sensitive. We have some racial problems here, but it is with American Natives/Whites,Blacks . It is kinda weird. Natives in the villages are much more prejudice to whites than they are to blacks. One, there are not very many blacks in the villages, but they are always referring to us as "white guys". I have lived in the bush for so many years, l even find myself saying "white guys" sometimes. I would never tell you what you need to do upperwestside, but from an observer from "outside" you appear to be one with racial issues. Every "white guy" is not out to get you, honestly.
Yukonjohn 6 months ago
Upperwestside, I have a question. If someone dislikes the President for his policies, does that make them a racist? I did not like GWB's policies either, but l honestly believe that l can dislike the President's policies, but would love to sit and have a beer with him.
packwilleat 6 months ago
Yeah, I don't like Obama's white half either. Does that make me bi-racist? Southernahchfienvkbnjr....... you're starting to sound like you want to kill whitey.
Thatcher 6 months ago
Yukon! The answer to your question (from liberals) is yes: you are a racist if you oppose Obama's policies. If you oppose Bush's policies, then liberals still think you are a racist because you also oppose Obama's policies. Interesting how that works, huh? Stay warm up there my friend! Cheers!