Baloney from the County Commissioners about Agenda 21

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By Joe McDonald

Special to The Pilot

The Moore County Board of Commissioners last week adopted a resolution in opposition to the United Nations Agenda 21. Commissioner Nick Picerno is quoted as saying: "What Agenda 21 stands for is 180 degrees from what Moore County stands for."

Really? Let's have a closer look and let the residents of Moore County decide that question for themselves.

In 1987, a United Nations report titled "Our Common Future" defined sustainable development as "development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs." In 1992, the United Nations convened the Conference on Environment and Development in Rio de Janeiro and produced a resolution on sustainable development called Agenda 21.

Agenda 21 is a nonbinding document that calls on the member countries to voluntarily cooperate more closely in a very wide range of ways to promote economic development while better protecting the environment. The document bends over backward to make it clear that the sovereignty of each member country is to be respected.

For example, every section of the document contains a statement that the financial costs of any measures taken will be decided upon by the individual governments. Paragraph 8.16 states that member countries will develop their own national priorities in accordance with their needs, policies and programs. Paragraph 8.30 (for those worried about socialism) calls for a "market-oriented" approach to development.

President George H. W. Bush signed this document on behalf of the United States. More than 178 other countries also signed on. Every United States president since then, including George W. Bush, has supported the Agenda 21 principles.

Agenda 21 was largely put aside and forgotten about until a gentleman out in California named Michael Shaw, with his Freedom 21 organization, decided that the concept of sustainable development is actually a cover for a communist plot to abolish private property rights and to take over the world. He maintained that the Nature Conservancy, the Sierra Club, the National Audubon Society, the American Planning Association, and the National Teachers Association were all part of this vast conspiracy.

Some Tea Party groups and others later adopted similar conspiracy theories. Then, astonishingly, in January 2012 the Republican National Committee adopted a resolution against Agenda 21, saying that sustainable development is a threat to the American way of life.

I had a career in the diplomatic service and was posted at U.S. embassies around the world. I know a little about the operations of the United Nations. Let me assure the residents of Moore County that the United States of America still has a permanent veto in the Security Council, that we are still the most powerful nation in the world, and that the United Nations poses no threat, large or small, to our national sovereignty nor to any of our basic rights.

It's easy to bash the United Nations, but it is best to think of it as simply a forum, where nations can sit down and talk. If we abolished it today, we would have to re-establish something similar tomorrow.

Also, let me assure you that all of the United Nations delegates are concerned primarily about their own national interests, that few if any of them would have any interest in a one-world government, and that there is no hidden puppetmaster in the closet at United Nations headquarters who is orchestrating a secret plan to take away our private property rights.

Returning to the resolution adopted by the Moore County commissioners, the kindest thing I can say about it is that every precept in it is false. Commissioner Craig Kennedy invites people to read the Agenda 21 document online. But one has to wonder if he has read it himself.

I hereby challenge Commissioner Kennedy or anybody else to show me a single paragraph in the Agenda 21 document that even vaguely supports any of the claims made in this resolution. Which paragraph, for example, suggests that Agenda 21 views private property ownership, single family homes, private car ownership, and individual travel choices as being destructive to the environment? Which specific paragraph states that national sovereignty is deemed a social injustice?

Could it be that certain elements in our society are simply using the United Nations as a straw man to put fear in the minds of people in order to help in the defeat of environmental protection measures? If this is indeed the case, they seem to be employing the Big Lie technique which was described by Hitler in his "Mein Kampf": Tell a lie so colossal that nobody would believe that someone else "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously."

Joe McDonald lives in Hoffman. Contact him at joemc@mindspring.com.

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JER 1 year, 2 months ago

Fear and stupidity: The Conservatives best friends.

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DoubleHeroides 1 year, 2 months ago

Thank you for this letter more times than I can express. Since when does the idea of a vast international conspiracy the likes of which would make a Bond villain blush in embarrassment an actual real thing that is up for discussion like this? It really makes absolutely no sense.

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JimHeim 1 year, 2 months ago

Recycling? Sustainability? Communist plots, I say.

It's our duty to use up all of the resources we can so our grandchildren don't have to deal with them.

Clean air? Clean water? Highly overrated. I love the stench of a sludge-clogged river in the morning!

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deidretg 1 year, 2 months ago

This is just another orchestrated smokescreen by that crowd in Carthage to appear all about the American Flag and Mom's Apple Pie in an election year, all the while knowing that a whole bunch of voters in this county have not forgotten for a minute that absolute slap in the face with the "That Time Has Past" statement to a whole bunch of Moore County citizens who took time out of their busy personal lives to go to Carthage and beg "The Powers That Be" for the right to vote on a $55,200,000 boondoggle rather than having it shoved down their throats by force. Payday is coming, boys, at the ballot box and any feeble attempt by you boys to get all God and Country on us will be forever overwhelmed by the image of your calculated, purposeful and utterly arrogant denial of one of America's greatest rights, THE RIGHT TO VOTE!!

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Easygoing 1 year, 2 months ago

Fear mongering far right tea party commissioners. That is what we have. How does Nick Picerno dare to tell us what we all stand for? The ultimate hypocrite. Getting elected to a small county seat in North Carolina seems to have gone to the heads of this group. Next they will be telling women how to live their lives. Oh wait! They already have!

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deidretg 1 year, 2 months ago

@"...government will do a better job if they are in control. Individual rights in general are to give way to the needs of communities as determined by the governing body......" THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT NICK PICERNO, LARRY CADDELL AND JIMMY MELTON EFFECTIVELY SAID TO US ALL AS THEY TOOK OUR RIGHT TO VOTE AWAY AND UNILATERALLY FORCED $55,200,000 OF DEBT THAT WE DID NOT WANT OR NEED!!!!! Now we do without schools, new county employee facilities (that had been planned and approved for design) and courts facilities all for the monstrous "Prisoner Palace" that overshadows everything in downtown Carthage. The "Tea Party" crowd will swallow whatever this cabal comes up with all the while waving little American Flags. Sad days ahead with the continuation of these unbridled big spenders in office.

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Bflat 1 year, 2 months ago

If you have not read this article and also have not read Agenda 21, I suggest that you do so before posting. TPo4 Commissioners (P,C,M, & now K) are not representative of the wishes of the citizens of Moore County. As said, their resolution is just "baloney." In fact, be careful believing any kind of resolution that they would pass. Remember the outrage of the citizens when it was learned that the JAIL will be federal sized? Remember that certain commissioners that ramrodded through the project were quick to say that "no federal inmates would be housed in the JAIL unless required by law to do so." A resolution was passed to do with that. Well, guess what.... law has allowed it on a space available basis. One again, the citizens of this county were hoodwinked into believing otherwise. It is the same now with this resolution about Agenda 21. And next, it will be the same with the marriage amendment when they throw out "feel good" comments about being all God and Church. The citizens of Moore County will be eating a lot of cheap baloney for a long time as the personal agendas of certain Commissioners unless they are voted out. Yet, people will line up at the voting booths and vote mindlessly a straight ticket without knowing all the issues. That is, until the pocketbooks of voters is robbed for taxes to pay for all the millions being spent on expanding a JAIL, The JAIL was put ahead of the needs of schools and education as well as other needed buildings. Do those certain commissioners really represent the views of the citizens of Moore County? NOT! Think people , think.

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deidretg 1 year, 2 months ago

@"......... Paragraph 8.30 (for those worried about socialism) calls for a "market-oriented" approach to development....." Maybe if Commissioners Picerno, Caddell and Melton had read and applied the principles of this particular paragraph of Agenda 21 we might be enjoying the use of that new Governmental Building (cancelled) for our hard working county employees and still be sending the county's children to the #1 school (closed) in Moore County (Academy Heights) while contemplating that new Courts Facility Building (no money left) that would no doubt be on the way. Instead, what we are faced with is a selfserving, tax dollar depleting monstrocity of a Prisoner Palace at the pleasure of two of our commissioners whose careers have revolved around providing "Southern Software" in multiple states for exactly this type of facility. Is this a coincidence? You tell me! Furthermore, the County Manager who has magnanomously agreed to stay on as overseer until this monster has been completed just happens to have been a County Detention Center Administrator for the immediate 12 years proir to blowing into Moore County. I dare somebody (anybody) to ask the BOC if there has been any discussion whatsoever by any of them about making T. Cary McSwain the "Administrator" of their new Prisoner Palace when it is ready and he has retired from his current job. If they say "no", we better make that sure with a statement that he will not be considered for any position, advisory or otherwise, and make them put that in writing. At the least, that will save them from the appearance of an even greater "conflict of interest" by appearing to not only have built this monstrocity for the ideal service of 'federal prisoner tracking software' but to provide for a "seasoned detention center administrator".

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Bflat 1 year, 2 months ago

That is exactly the direction the project is going to take , so that certain ones are in control of ongoing pet projects to pad their pockets forever.

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DoubleHeroides 1 year, 2 months ago

@wdd101st: Please provide an example of when farmers have not been able to cultivate fields due to ants and mice.

And in response to your complaint that farmers are told what to grow, to a certain degree you are correct and I’ll tell you why: The Great Dust Bowl. In the 1930s extensive farming and a lack of crop rotation (because the farmers wanted to grow whatever they wanted whenever they wanted) coupled with a drought (when in the last decade haven’t we had drought conditions?) led to one of the worst environmental issues the nation has ever faced. That should tell you in a nutshell why there are mandates about what you can and can’t grow, because inherently people will do what they want without considering the long term consequences of their actions (which many incorrectly use as the definition of “freedom”).

Furthermore, after having read Agenda 21 please provide a quote from the actual document that discusses the forced removal of people from farm land into more urbanized areas or any of the other lunacy that you claim is in that document because I can't find it and would love to be educated on what you've found. Please cite specific paragraphs found in the document and not talking points from someone else.

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JoeGarrison 1 year, 2 months ago

@David Francis- So let me get this straight. You used to be an avid supporter of Jim Hunt, you voted for Barack Obama, you and a few others are angry about an issue that is over with and done with and you were on the wrong side by the way, and you somehow want to feign some misplaced conservative values while your history, and your voting for Barack Hussein Obama, and your lack of courage when it comes to stating your position on the marriage ammendment clearly puts you in the saul alinsky crowd with Dusty, Jim, harleyboy, and a few other leftists. ...Hypocrisy anyone. The UN is a ineffective body that would be nothing without the US and they have no law over us nor should they. Stating on the record that the reps of Moore County at the county level oppose any agenda by leftists and globalists to take away our liberties and control us is a great thing. And by the way your buddy Tim Lea voted for it David so I can't wait for you to explain that one. Bravo to the commissioners for standing for liberty and freedom.

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deidretg 1 year, 2 months ago

@Little Joe; Yes(Jim Hunt), yes (Barak Obama) and yes(conservative values) again. As to your quote " Hypocrisy anyone?" you are the blind hypocrite when it comes to denying the citizens of this county the right to decide anything for themselves. You are mindlessly following the footsteps of the guy who first tells us we don't need the right to vote ("That Time Has Past") when it might deny him his #1 priority (the Prisoner Palace if we dumb dumb citizens didn't see it "HIS" way) and now is dictating to us how to "Vote" so that he will appear to be all about God and Country. Look dude, I'm not buying anything this cabal (Picerno, Caddell, Melton) has to say while I and my children are forced to swallow the $55,200,000 payday forced on us against our wills for their pet projects, especially, knowing that they have the $300,000,000 man on the trail to Robbins to soak us for another boondoggle to the tune of $21,000,000 minimum. His comment from the record of the Water meeting was to ask "Would the voters revolt over a $3 or $4 increase in their water bills? I (Nick) personally would not". How arrogant is that? First of all, it's going to be $10 - $15 increase to fund the debt and secondly, not all people in Moore County are are as free with other people's money as he and his buds are. It is an election year and Mr. Picerno and Mr. Caddell are just trying to pretty themselves up for the voters that they so arrogantly slapped in the face. Payday is coming and they must focus the voters on the "pretty boys" not the "bare knuckled brawlers" who know how "get things done" when their personal interests are in the mix. Just because he is your father-in-law does not demand that you give up your mind. Again, I say to you, "Read, then respond"!

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JoeGarrison 1 year, 2 months ago

Again it's sad that you won't support the ammendment because of your personal vendetta against the county because you are no longer employed with them. I feel sorry for you David, I really do. And yes I'll say it again. The jail is a done deal, get over it.

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deidretg 1 year, 2 months ago

@Joe;".... The jail is a done deal, get over it." Hey, bud, you might want to run your comments by "Daddy-in-Law" before enflaming the electorate with your arrogancy. Why do you think he is dragging all this God and Country camouflage up before the election? "IT'S A DONE DEAL, GET OVER IT" is probably not the best phrase to stick in Mr. Picerno's mouth while the suffering citizens of Moore County are forced to look at that 'mega-monstrocity' going up in Carthage around all those vacant buildings. It's just another way to say "That Time Has Past" which literally slapped every voter in Moore County in the face when Nick Picerno said it. And now, we have "GET OVER IT" says Nick Picerno's spokesman (son-in-law, commissioner-in-waiting). Let's run that billboard up and down every highway and byway in Moore County from now until November and see how much that helps him. Dude, you keep this up and you might not see "pretty boy" for awhile. I suspect, "bare knuckle brawler" might come out of the closet. Watch out.

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JoeGarrison 1 year, 2 months ago

Lets review the charge of an "enflamed electorate". Which we have done in exhaustive detail but I'll do it again since you seem slow to understand. Bert Patrick ran as a anti-jail candidate against Tom Stewart in Carthage and he beat her by a margin of 2-1 in the town where the jail is being built so obviously there is no enflamed electorate in Carthage. Jimmy Melton faced a democratic challenger in 2010 and who was opposed to the jail. Jimmy won by an overwhelming majority, again no evidence of an enflamed electorate. So yes, I know not in your warped mind, the issue is done. David don't be so emotional, you seem angry and unhinged. Again I know these facts won't dissuade your vendetta for not being with the county anymore but hey maybe one day it will. In the words of Chub Seawell, "Call your next case." Now distractions aside, bravo to the commissioners for standing up for freedom and liberty. The UN is a worthless body that should not hold sway over the freedoms of American citizens.

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DoubleHeroides 1 year, 2 months ago

@ JoeGarrison: I hate to point this out to you but you just now asserted that the UN is ineffective and is paid for almost entirely by the U.S.A. and that anything they say has no bearing on what goes on in the U.S. all of which is true and all of which I agree with you 100 percent about.

What strikes me as odd is that you then turn around and imply that the UN, the very same ineffective and U.S. funded organization with no real jurisdiction within the sovereign boundaries of America that you just described, has adopted a policy that not only national leaders, but local elected officials need to stand up against because it not only could, but it WILL take away our liberties.

Which is it? Is the UN utterly without effect on the daily lives of the citizens of America or is it powerful enough for 178 countries to use the U.S. funding to create a policy that will have a direct effect on the daily lives of American citizens?

Please clarify that conundrum for me.

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JoeGarrison 1 year, 2 months ago

Its not that hard. The UN is ineffective in that it does nothing to help spread freedom and liberty to others. It is an organization through which globalists try to pass international laws that some, maybe you, wish would trump even our own laws. Agenda 21 is bad for our country, state, and county. Bravo again to the commissioners for standing up for freedom and liberty.

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DoubleHeroides 1 year, 2 months ago

@JoeGarrison, well now I don’t quite understand what that dig at me was about: “maybe you” implying that I am in favor of some grand globalist scheme or conspiracy, I just got done saying that I agreed with you in regards to the UN and what it does and doesn’t do. I’m not attacking you Mr. Garrison I’m attacking your argument because you say that they try to pass laws that we are beholden to when they can’t do that. I’m just confused as to where you are thinking that a resolution passed by the UN is not only considered an international law, but it is something that we as Americans would have to obey.

I mean a resolution is a resolution no matter at what level. A resolution passed by the Board of Moore County Commissioners (saying they are against Agenda 21) is not a law any more than a resolution (such as Agenda 21) passed by the UN is a law. It is a recommendation or a position statement by a council of representatives, not a law and having read Agenda 21 I see no position taken that recommends forced herding of people into urbanized areas and the globalized control of markets or anything that you claim that it stands for.

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JoeGarrison 1 year, 2 months ago

I assure you I meant no "dig".

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deidretg 1 year, 2 months ago

@Joe; "...Call your next case." Now distractions aside, bravo to the commissioners....". Don't worry about it, Little Joe, nobody reads this stuff anyway, otherwise the statistics would not have been what they were for those purveyors of the 'Prisoner Palace' that is swallowing up all the money that could have been used for better things (Governmental Building, Academy Heights School, New Courts Facility, etc.). You and your Daddy (in-law) can be mighty proud of yourselves with numbers like that (2 to 1, overwhelming, etc). However, he will still have to drag that $52,200,000 worth of baggage around with him for the rest of his career. That's what careers are made of; "The Record". T. Cary McSwain will have to drag that $300,000,000 statement of how much he envisioned Moore County spending during his tenure at the helm of county management (back in 2007 when money was endless) for the rest of his career. They do not get to "call their next case". The way it looks to me, they are trying to cover up the old troublesome "cases" with this new, bright, and shiny God, Country and Mom's Apple Pie image just in time for the election. Don't worry, you've got the numbers and this new image on your side. Relax, relax, relax, you're getting sleepy, relax........

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Arestorer 1 year, 2 months ago

"The UN is ineffective in that it does nothing to help spread freedom and liberty to others." "Bravo again to the commissioners for standing up for freedom and liberty." And their doing this how??? By voting for all the citizens??? With a resolution that means NOTHING??? Maybe you should look up what those words mean....

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Bflat 1 year, 2 months ago

As Mr McD stated, the UN is more like a forum with reps from other countries discussing issues. He pointed out that the Commissioners resolution is based on false premises with nothing vaguely resembling anything in Agenda 21. One has to wonder just what they were up to when they even got into any kind of resolution if they didn't know what they were doing. Was this some kind of thing for Mr P to bolster up the "feel good" image? Does Mr Kennedy not have a bit of pie on his face, too? Do we really want these commissioners representing our wishes while they are doing nothing but serving up a bunch of baloney? Thank you Mr. McDonald for pointing out what quite a few of us already know about the Commissioners. Maybe in the next election, people won't line up and mindlessly vote in the same ole commissioners that continue to spend money like it's a bottomless pit.

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JER 1 year, 2 months ago

The conservative right likes to throw out little messages to their faithful to insure them that they are on board and following the party line. Their "resolution" on Agenda 21 is yet another example. This group, as represented by JoeGarrison in this discussion, takes the position that the United States is the owner of this planet and everyone else is a pesky tenant they would just as well like to evict. This, of course, is why some others on this planet hate us. At some point, and it is coming, we will be forced to acknowledge that we don't have all the answers and that we are a cause of some of the problems. When we start treating the rest of the world as equal inhabitants, life will begin to improve for everyone. If we don't believe the United Nations is doing what it was intended to do, then we must work to put together a proposal for improving it, get other nations to add their input and have the member nations vote to improve it. The United States is having a difficult time running our own country. We are not in a position to run the world. A United Nations or similar organization is an imperative for the orderly conduct of all the worlds nations in their daily interaction with one another.

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tarheelborn 1 year, 2 months ago

Look Voting Citizens. I have read your complaints and I'm prepared to hand down my decision. Your concerns are valid, and are so noted. ""Stop Complaining and START TEACHING your Children and Grandchildren the Constitution of the United States of AMERICA, the BILL of RIGHTS, the History of what has made our Nation the Past Greatest Nation ever in the History in our Known Civilized Historical Existence""! We did not get into this mess over night and it will take YEARS to dig ourselves out of this mess, IF EVER! At least in our generation.... ALL our elected officials are eat up with themselves and their selfish lusts. BOTH Republicans and Democrats alike are AFRAID to Stand up for what is JUST AND RIGHT! I'm almost afraid to ask my next question. If the overwhelming majority of voting citizens are not satisfied with how the local, state and national government is being run, why don't some of our down to earth, hard working, true business owners etc, etc, RATHER than Bankers, Lawyers, etc, run for Public Office? It's a little late for filing for the next election, but try and remember next time. I see Very Little Changing these next four years.

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JimHeim 1 year, 2 months ago

People who obsess over Agenda 21 are mostly the same ones who think President Obama is a Muslim born somewhere other than the United States - that is to say, nuts.

It's one thing for random citizens to slip their moorings, but when the people elected to run our government start delving into the delusional, we all should worry.

I only hope that new Taj Mahal going up in Carthage has a psychiatric wing.

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DoubleHeroides 1 year, 2 months ago

Sorry to do this to you wdd101st but having read the entire court decision (found here: http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx?page=1&xmldoc=20092013656dcfsupp2d1357_11907.xml&docbase=CSLWAR3-2007-CURR&SizeDisp=7)

I saw the following quotations:

Page 6 Part D states “Their complaint is silent about what those “conditions” are. Particulars about their properties or their injuries are not alleged.”

Later on we find this: “The Fishers submitted a brief affidavit attesting to nothing more than the Fish and Wild Life Service’s designation of critical habitat “undermined” his / her ability to use his / her property. Having provided no “specific facts” about their properties or their injuries as required by [prior court rulings].”

Further, no part of that was related to agricultural uses.

And in looking at the maps found here: http://www.fws.gov/economics/Critical%20Habitat/Final%20Reports/3%20Florida%20beach%20mice/FBM%20Final%20Economic%20Analysis%2009_08_06.pdf

We aren’t even dealing with that much land (it isn't even agricultural land) to begin with. The property owners are upset that they have to comply with federal, state and local (the local county board adopted regulations to protect the mice as well) standards. I feel for them but unfortunately that is the way the cookie crumbles. Just because someone claims they were hurt by something and sues doesn’t make it legitimate. Remember the woman who sued over that hot coffee from McDonalds? She won but it doesn't make it right.

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DoubleHeroides 1 year, 2 months ago

Also, could you provide the references where Agenda 21 calls for taking away your car, property rights or any of the myriad of other Orwellian plots that the document is supposed to have happen?

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DoubleHeroides 1 year, 2 months ago

@JoeGarrison, I appreciate that you didn't mean any offence and let it be known that I didn't take any, I just didn't appreciate it given the previous tone of our discourse. I will still like to know a of any response to the logical fallacy that I pointed out in my last post to you.

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deidretg 1 year, 2 months ago

@DoubleHeroides; "...logical...." ? That term as well as other similar terms (reasoned response, factual discourse, etc) have been totally absent from my discussions with him. Maybe you will have better success with him.

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JimHeim 1 year, 2 months ago

DoubleHeroides, I must take strong exception to your characterization of the injuries to Leila Liebeck caused by scalding coffee served by McDonalds. She was injured by an uncaring corporation and deserved much more than she got.

See the movie Hot Coffee or do some research on the topic. It's an eye-opener. The anti-consumer press made her out to be something she decidedly was not. McDonalds was dangerously negligent and needed to be reined in.

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm

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DoubleHeroides 1 year, 2 months ago

My apologies, I don’t know if it was as bad as all that (not to seem callous but I'm not that intriqued by the whole thing) but it is kind of getting away from the point (as much as these comment sections have a point) so let me retract that comparison and substitute it with Kramer spilling the Café Latte on himself in Seinfeld and partnering up with Jackie Chiles to sue the Café Latte corporation.

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JimHeim 1 year, 2 months ago

DoubleHeroides - I too originally accepted the earlier attitude and tended to blame the customer. I mean, how clumsy do you have to be to hurt yourself with a cup of coffee. After delving deeper (many years later) I learned how wrong I was.

It's true that frivolous suits happen and do real damage to the market. But we do ourselves a disservice when we assume all such actions are self-serving money-grabs.

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cmptrepair 1 year, 2 months ago

Joe Garrison has the Jim Jones approach to my way or else! don't drink his koolaid. Or just go along to get along until time to vote in November ~ bye bye daddy in law. Is Joe trying to act like a politician and speak for the board of communists? Total rule and control over a no public vote on the jail house and larry's water ventures - think [un] ethical behavior. Joe is serving up grape ape Koolaid so do as he says or else. The 800 lb gorilla in the room. Citing H Chub Seawell ... I'll be he never met Chub; matter of fact, I know he didn't since he is just a young'n. Call your next case bud!

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dustyrhoades 1 year, 2 months ago

So the county commissioners feel compelled to spend their time saying they don't like a 20 year old document that doesn't bind them and has no actual effect on Moore County whatsoever, because that's the right wing outrage du jour.

Political correctness: it's not just for liberals any more.

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deidretg 1 year, 2 months ago

@cmptrepair; "Joe Garrison....Citing H Chub Seawell ... I'll be he never met Chub; matter of fact, I know he didn't since he is just a young'n. Call your next case bud!" Actually, Chub Seawell, who I had met and had breakfast with many times back in those days of his Saturday Sessions that used to take place in the old Howard Johnsons in the 1970's, had died almost a decade before Little Joe was born. So, he definitely is pulling that one out of thin air.

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tarheelborn 1 year, 2 months ago

I've been to the United Nations many times. Now you talk about a Waste of American Tax Dollars, if it were not for the USA, there would be no UN! (The New World Order) as Obama and even Bush has pushed so hard for..... BRING US DOWN TO EVERYONE ELSE'S LEVEL! ! ! !

One thing is very interesting to note since we are speaking about the UN. Maybe I'm getting too old and my mind is slipping a little, (I don't think it is), but didn't I read SOMEWHERE, that we the USA are to never allow ANY Foreign Troops or Forces or Army or whatever you want to call FIGHTING PERSONNEL, on OUR SOIL? Every time I hear about "Robin Sage", it just makes my skin crawl... Listen. for all you readers that don't know, (because nobody ever told you), the reason the UN pushes troops from other countries to come here and train, is because SOON we will be Overtaken with Troops from these countries which will not hesitate to fire on and kill United States Citizens, in the event there is a rebellion against Washington and OUR OWN TROOPS will not Fire on their OWN Friends and Family! This Nation better wake up and understand WE are Losing our Superpower Status SO FAST, that if Somebody in Power up on the Hill don't Stand Up and tell the UN and ALL these other countries where to get off, and their Free Ride on the USA is OVER, then I feel very bad for our children and grandchildren, because we are now QUICKLY Loosing what little, Freedom and Liberty we still have!

My mind keeps remembering the Communists Words, "WE WILL TAKE OVER THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND NEVER FIRE A SHOT"! ! ! Also, "GIVE ME YOUR CHILDREN UNTIL THEY ARE (9) YEARS OLD and WE WILL TEACH THEM TO HATE AMERICA, FOREVER OBEYING OUR COMMANDS""! These People mean every word they have said!

To be continued...

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