Could It Be Dewey-Truman Again?
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Will history repeat itself and America again deny the presidency to a Republican who has long sought the office?
I'm reminded of the 1948 election when a beleaguered President Harry Truman defied the odds and trounced the pollsters' favorite, Gov. Tom Dewey of New York.
Truman was earthy, feisty and a born fighter who had not sought the presidency but inherited it upon Franklin Roosevelt's death. Truman, like President Obama, came to the Oval Office from the U.S. Senate, where he was well-respected on both sides of the aisle. Truman had chaired a bipartisan committee that ferreted out wartime graft and corruption.
A stiff Tom Dewey was Truman's exact opposite. Truman had never attended college and was a failed businessman. Dewey, a graduate of Michigan and Columbia Law, became America's most famous federal criminal prosecutor, fighting organized crime in New York. When he convicted Lucky Luciano for prostitution racketeering, he became a national celebrity.
Mitt Romney, somewhat rigid like Dewey, has spent millions of his personal fortune to be president. Dewey tried for the nomination in 1940, which went to Wendell Willkie. Both were liberals who had to battle the GOP's reactionary Robert Taft wing to get on the ticket. Dewey, nominated in 1944, lost to FDR.
In 1948, the pundits all predicted it was "Dewey's year." Truman's popularity seemed at an all-time low, and the Democratic Party had split three ways: among Truman, Henry Wallace (Progressive Party) and Strom Thurmond, (Dixiecrat Party).
Dewey believed the pollsters and took no chances. Speaking in platitudes, he tried to transcend politics. He later admitted he'd wanted to appear as nonpartisan as possible, believing the 1944 race against FDR had been a "mudslinging match."
His party's right wing urged him to engage in red-baiting, but he refused. He opposed outlawing the Communist Party, further offending his far-right supporters.
Romney, as Massachusetts' governor, served as a progressive in America's most liberal state. Running unsuccessfully against Ted Kennedy for U.S. Senate, he sounded more liberal than Teddy.
Now he seeks to walk away from his record, particularly on controversial social issues like abortion and health care. Ironically, he'd end "Obamacare," a plan largely modeled after Romney's now-popular Massachusetts health insurance program.
Dewey was an outspoken liberal who never tried to hide his stripes. Proud of his progressive achievements, he supported New Deal social welfare reforms.
Honest and effective, he cut taxes, doubled state aid to education, increased state employee salaries, reduced state debt by $100 million, and enacted America's first law prohibiting racial discrimination in employment. He created the State University of New York and the New York State Thruway, now named after him. He was proud of his record and never hid from it.
Truman campaigned by train across the U.S., tying Dewey to a "do-nothing Republican 80th Congress." Ironically, Dewey had supported the U.N., the Marshall Plan, the Truman Doctrine, recognition of Israel and the Berlin Airlift.
Romney finds himself in a position not unlike Dewey's. The Republican Party, overwhelmed by a regressive Tea Party, advocates far-right positions that conflict with his basic beliefs.
But unlike Dewey, Romney refuses to stand up to such pressure. Persistent attacks on his record of "flip-flopping" by primary opponents were especially damaging.
Obama is a natural, charismatic campaigner with a united party and enthusiastic supporters. Expect him to run against an even more regressive GOP Congress than Truman ever experienced.
The reactionary Taft wing of the GOP failed to keep Dewey, and later Ike Eisenhower, off the ballot. In 2012, an equally intransigent element dominates the GOP, and Mitt Romney has kowtowed to it to win the nomination.
When ultraconservative Sen. Barry Goldwater received the GOP nomination in 1964, Tom Dewey refused to attend the convention, the first he'd missed in 36 years. He correctly foresaw that his beloved party would drift further and further to the right.
Can instinctively moderate Romney be elected running as a sheep in wolf's clothing? Tom Dewey, an "Eastern Establishment" internationalist, refused to do so. He kept his honor but lost to Truman. My hunch is Romney may lose both his honor and the election.
Paul R. Dunn lives in Pinehurst. Contact him at paulandbj@nc.rr.com.
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Bentpan 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Mr Dunn, I'm guessing you wrote this before the Wisconsin election last night, as Amendment one is a belwether for the direction NC will take in Nov., the Democrats crushing defeat in Wisconsin last night leaves no doubt they'll go RED this Nov. Add the expected defeat of Obamacare later this month and the conservative trinity wish list is complete. The Presidency, the Senate, and Congress will be firmly under Conservative control in Jan. 2013. Honestly it isn't just that democrat policies don't work, but that they are actively bad for America. Americans are waking up to the harsh truth that liberal Democrats loathe american ideals, They want to "fundimentaly transform" America while the rest of us want to better America. And to paraphrase Sen. Benson "Obama ain't no Truman".
geoffcutler 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Well put, Bp.
moonchild7 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Since Dusty's column has already been "closed" I hope that you don't mind if I answer a few "jabs" that I got from you guys over there in this one. Yes, Rachel did report that Scott Walker had been "declared" the winner of the re-call, believe it or not. She is by-far the FAIR & BALANCED one on tv. Several "pundits" this morning did say though that while Walker won his re-call President Obama's 51% to Romney's 45% numbers in Wisconsin were due to the fact that Auto Industry jobs had come back to Wisconsin and that's why he'll win the state. Walker had NOTHING to do with that. Also, Walker had $30 million in advertising compared to the Democrats $3 million. People just aren't very smart if they'll let a tv or radio commercial persuade them to vote for an A*E. fugitiveguy, no matter what you say, when videos of African Americans are used to depict essentially "what is wrong" with America then your perceptions/beliefs tend to run towards a RACIALLY BIASED one. The one WHITE person that video was a white WOMAN (another group that gets blamed for all of the problems in the USA). I think Mr. Dunn you seem to have forgotten about "good 'ole" Dick Nixon. That guy was a loser, loser, loser and then a bunch of really dumb people made him President in 1968. He got his chance and what an awful mess he turned out to be. Romney doesn't deserve or should be President and very hopefully more Americans than not will also see it that way.I told my son that it was up to his generation to make sure Romney was defeated. He hopes that many of them still realize the importance of voting but he's not so sure they do anymore.
Hembloche 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Interestingly, according to exit polling, Obama would have won Wisc. 54%-42% if the presidential election had been held last night. Obviously not an air tight number, but don't count your chickens before they're hatched, as the saying goes.
Bentpan 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Thank you Mr Cutler, unlike yourself I'm not a homme de plume however I do get my meaning across occasionaly.
The_AnonymusProfit 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Exit polling is worthless.
Hembloche 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Unless it favors your candidate, right AP?
geoffcutler 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Going to be more like Reagan/Carter.
teufelhunden 11 months, 2 weeks ago
MC7-"She is by-far the FAIR & BALANCED one on tv."
This statement has cleared up a lot for me and now I can actually view a glimpse of your reality...WOW.
Courseaire 11 months, 2 weeks ago
I could only categorize Rachel Madcow as fair-skinned & out-of-balance.
fugitiveguy 11 months, 2 weeks ago
" fugitiveguy, no matter what you say, when videos of African Americans are used to depict essentially "what is wrong" with America then your perceptions/beliefs tend to run towards a RACIALLY BIASED one."
PLEASE GET HELP!!!
Courseaire 11 months, 2 weeks ago
I would categorize anyone that continually sees race bias in any post, comment or video as someone with racial issues.
The_AnonymusProfit 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Hembloche 1 hour, 18 minutes ago Unless it favors your candidate, right AP?
No Hembloche Exit polling is never worth reading into. It is highly inaccurate. Case in point Pennsylvania 2004
The_AnonymusProfit 11 months, 2 weeks ago
@ courseaire
People who see racial bias most often are people with racial issues, very astute. It is amazing how race can be brought into an argument at almost anytime to skew the actual topic of discussion.
Courseaire 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Thank you TAP - I were an good astutent in skool.
Hembloche 11 months, 2 weeks ago
AP- I realize that, just thought it was interesting considering the gap in the recall election. Only time will tell if Obama can pick up Wisc., but a recall election in June in no way guarantees Romney will win the state as Bentpan suggested. Nearly all the polls coming out of Wisc. that I've seen have Obama ahead (and before you jump in, I do realize that polls aren't 100% accurate). I personally don't see much light at the end of the tunnel regardless of who gets elected. It'll still be the same old BS outta DC. As frustrated as I am, I'll still get out & vote. Hope you all do too.
fugitiveguy 11 months, 2 weeks ago
" but a recall election in June in no way guarantees Romney will win the state as Bentpan suggested."
Couldn't agree more. At no time up until election day should anyone become complacent. We must act as if we are behind no matter what the polls say. Not only does Romney need to beat Obama but he needs to do so with enough of a margin to overcome any possible fraud. Also, we need some type of national campaign that will ensure that all the votes of our overseas service men and women will be counted. Also, this is the year to put our money where our mouths are, we know from experience that President Obama can raise massive, massive amounts of money. What was the ration of D spending to R spending in the last presidential election?
fugitiveguy 11 months, 2 weeks ago
"Walker had $30 million in advertising compared to the Democrats $3 million."
I know where $50 of that came from.
justpassingby2 11 months, 2 weeks ago
This poor guy's editors are making him fight back with one arm tied behind his back. It was always and I can only guess Dusty, still, your own contradictions that left you with no recourse but to fight dirty as they say. Every problem was Bush's fault, everything wrong in this country was Bush's fault. Yet now that after 3+ years of Obama, the EXACT same problems exist. The wars, the human rights violations at Gitmo, big oil, President appointees lying to Congress and the biggest, most important in my mind, the state of our education system in this country. We laughed (rightfully) at Bush's No Child Left Behind. What did the three stooges of Pelosi, Reid, and Obama do given the chance? NOTHING. I don't believe there was ever a post on here by either side ( I take you people still don't realize you are both on the SAME losing side) that when stating the problems with this country that education was not mentioned. The irony of the state of our education system is after 50+ years of failed policies of myself and other liberal thinkers, we now hope that we have created enough idiots to reelect the worse President in my 60+ years.
And I have to say, I personally would miss Dusty not attacking back. The guy used to make my points for me! Can you believe Dusty was so far removed from reality that he actually wrote articles tearing down the likes of losers like Perry, Cain, Palin, and every other fly by night wingnut? Seriously Dusty? But good luck, I still feel bad about your meltdown. Maybe your editors are just concerned with your mental health.
Bentpan 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Hembloche lets apply some logic to your exit poll, in order for your poll to be correct roughly 20% of Walker voters would have to be Obama supporters. Can you really see an Obama supporter voting for Walker or vise-versa? Do you understand now why such a poll must be crap? No need to thank me, just here to help educate.
Hembloche 11 months, 2 weeks ago
First of all, since I didn't personally conduct the exit poll it isn't "my" poll. Second, no need to be condescending, I'm quite well educated thank you. Third, many independents may well be happy with the job Walker has done AND also approve of Obama. Some people don't vote simply for the R or D in front of a persons name. And finally, I at no point said it was a rock solid poll and the results have to be true. I said it was interesting, as in the results of the poll held interest for me. You were the one throwing out absolutes that have no basis in fact, as the election is still many months away and much can change.
The_AnonymusProfit 11 months, 2 weeks ago
@hembloch as to your reaponse. Spot on
MikeNC 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Moonchild, I will agree with you that MSNBC did declare the results. I was flipping the channels and found that MSNBC posted the results first. Rachel, was none to happy about it, but she did it. Unfortunately, the amount you say was spent by Democrats on this election, is not true. Yes, The GOP put more money into this election, but guess what? The Democrats could of, too ! They chose not to, for the fact, previous polling showed Walker was going to win, so why waste the money. Trust me, if the Democrats thought they had a prayer, Obama would of landed his plane in Milwaukee for a pep rally and a lot more money from the DNC would of been pumped into the election. And you're not too smart, to insult the people of Wisconsin's intelligence. That somehow they were voodooed into voting Walker, by way of GOP commercials. Always calling people, stupid and dumb, is getting aggravating. Grow up. Diane
Behan 11 months, 2 weeks ago
I really liked Rachel Maddow much better as the star of those Karate Kid movies. The lead role in Charles in Charge wasn't bad work either. He/she makes a terrible news commentator, however.
Thatcher 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Geoff (6 hours, 44 min. ago)-- "Going to be more like Reagan/Carter." Geoff, comparing Obama to Carter is GROSSLY unfair. To Carter.
fugitiveguy 11 months, 2 weeks ago
I love how the libs moan and groan about Fox News but never a peep about MSNBC. I guess that is due to their hypocritical oath.
MikeNC 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Moonchild: Wanted to give you some real numbers. According to MacIver Institute break down as of last night: Big labor raised and contributed almost $22 Million dollars and outside Liberal PACs raised over $14 Million in the Wisconsin Recall Election. So your calculations as well as many other Liberal pundits, are way OFF. Diane PS, Walker WON by even a larger majority than he did the first go round. The people in Wisconsin aren't stupid, they WOKE UP, when they finally learned the facts about hefty State Union Employee pension plans and paying almost Zero to their healthcare plans. Not to mention that unemployment dropped by over 3% under Walker in one year, their taxes dropped by over 2% in one year, and their 22 Billion in whole is now a surplus, in one year. Diane
Bentpan 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Hembloche I am contrite, but given the opposite ends of the political spectrum these two gentlemen occupy, you can understand my skepticism that any one voter would find both appealing, much less 9-12% of active voters in Wisconsin. It to my mind makes no sense, the swing is too great.
Thatcher 11 months, 2 weeks ago
I got a kick out of seeing a Wisconsin union supporter react to Walker's victory on CNN..."end of democracy," etc. This guy must have abandoned the Occupy movement to come home to vote. Too funny! Enjoy!! http://www.theblaze.com/stories/weeping-walker-foe-tells-cnn-this-is-the-end-of-democracy/.
nothingspecial 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Behan, great to see you again!!!!
Funniest thing about this letter is the implied comparison of our president to President Truman!!! Wow, that's some wishful thinking!
Clinton was a very smart and savvy democrat and was the only democrat who won a second term after serving a full one, since FDR.
Come on guys, our current President can't hold a candle to Bill, in smarts or political savvy - heck I submit that George W has him beat by a mile at this point in intellegence and wisdom. Think about that and our president's track record the past three years and compare gaffes, etc. George W is the brightest of the two. Give the President a decade or so and maybe he could compete but at this point the poor guy really has been an amateur catapulted into office way before he was even close to being ready.
After he lost Jackson Browne's support yesterday it's all over for the President.
Hembloche 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Not sure if i read wrong, or they updated numbers, but that poll now stands at 51-44 for Obama which pretty much falls in line with most national polls i've seen lately. My point is that a lot of independents don't lean drastically right or left. If you're faced with 2 options in 2 different races, one far right, the other far left, it's not out of the realm of possibility that you may vote for one from each spectrum if you don't lean strongly either way. In '08 I voted for Obama for prez and McCrory for gov because i felt each was the best fit for the position based on what we had to choose from. I didn't agree entirely with either candidate, but felt that McCain & Perdue were inferior options. State and national politics are vastly different. What may work on a state level may not work federally so the same type candidate isn't necessarily the best option for both levels.
Hembloche 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Correction: It falls in line with most Wisconsin polls, not national polls.
fugitiveguy 11 months, 2 weeks ago
" but at this point the poor guy really has been an amateur catapulted into office way before he was even close to being ready."
speak on brother, Thatcher layin down the troof.
fugitiveguy 11 months, 2 weeks ago
"After he lost Jackson Browne's support yesterday it's all over for the President."
Could it be that the president is "running on empty" ?
fugitiveguy 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Where are all the lefties today? Their convention isn't this week is it?
Thatcher 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Behan!! Great to have you back! Here's Rachel Maddow in her prime: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZqOSd.... Enjoy!!
Bentpan 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Hembloche you are a rarity we have at this time in our history a politicaly polerised society, I am obviously very ultra conservative in my views that does not mean I cannot see the "big" picture as a Vet in th 70s I actually voted for Carter, ( don't tell anyone it'll destroy my street cred as a rightwing homophobic racist teabagger) and if blue dog democrats ever come out of the woodwork again, I'd possibly support them ( somewhat ambigious I know) But today localy or federaly being fiscaly conservative isn't just a ideal, it is a necessity if our country is to survive, whether local or national we must support fiscaly responsible represenatives. BTW didn't vote for McCain either ( saw his vote for TARP as a Betrayal ) went Independent.
The_AnonymusProfit 11 months, 2 weeks ago
If we were serious about fixing the economy we would have nominated ron paul. But were not were still only half serious. When were all living on moldy bread and water we will sing a somber tune
Bentpan 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Just saw where Dominoes is having a contest, if you win you too can be a real pizza chef in a Dominoes Pizzaria. Imagine a contest to get a just above minimun wage job, Welcome to Obama's America.
moonchild7 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Jackson Brown said he'll still vote for the President but that's about it. So what? A vote is a vote. The Democrats in Wisconsin put up the same candidate (Mayor of Milwaukie) to run against Walker in this recall as they did in the 2010 election. Who won that one? They weren't very smart, were they? Until the Bush tax breaks for the wealthy are STOPPED and those insane TEAPOTTERS are made to compromise on the important issues we'll be having a mess. I'll survive just fine no matter but the murder-suicide-cannibal-zombie-bomb-gun-warz-pestilence problems will only escalate. Sad, and Courseaire I thought you sorta liked me. You shouldn't call Rachel.....Madcow.
The_AnonymusProfit 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Moon when the gop fixes the economy what are you going to do?
Courseaire 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Moon - I do like you and enjoy your comments. I just have no use for Rachel M & every time I see or hear her, Madcow pops in my head -- She's no Bill O'Reilly .
MikeNC 11 months, 2 weeks ago
TAP...I believe she will blame it on Obama.....Mike
MikeNC 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Moonchild, First the people are stupid in Wisconsin for listening to GOP commercials and now the Democrats in Wisconsin are stupid for choosing Barrett again. With all that was at stake in this race, I'm sure your Party gave thought and consideration as to who would be the one to go toe to toe against Walker. The fact is: The Democrats didn't have much of a platform to run on, other than Union greed and the Unions unwillingness to admit, the state was BROKE. The people of Wisconsin remembered bus loads of Unions being bussed in and shutting down their General Assembly. They remembered, Wisconsin teachers walking away from their jobs, and their kids not able to attend school. They remembered members of the Democrat congress running to other states and hiding out. Diane
moonchild7 11 months, 2 weeks ago
That's right Courseaire, she's no O'Reilly. She has a BA from Stanford and a D.Phil from the U. of Oxford (as in England).
Newton 11 months, 2 weeks ago
As a conservative, I long for a conservative tsunami in Congress and the White House. Unfortunately there are significant headwinds in the election of conservatives:
MikeNC 11 months, 2 weeks ago
I'm somewhat conservative and wasn't for Romney in the beginning, but truthfully, I think he will be wonderful alternative to the rigid left ideology that is prevailing from the White House, now. Diane
AFCHIEF 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Moonchild those insane TEAPOTTERS are made to compromise on the important issues we'll be having a mess.
Compromise on what issues? How about Harry Reid bringing up all the bills for a vote that the house sent over for a vote. Reid is stonewalling everything coming from the house.
3 YEARS and STILL NO BUDGET!!!! WTF
What company, corporation, or even a family household that does not follow some sort of budget.
Thatcher 11 months, 2 weeks ago
MC7-- Why is Obama continuing his War Against Women by making a joke about his own wife before a Gay/Lesbian group: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8GoOa0kwEA. This is from CNN no less. Your thoughts?
Thatcher 11 months, 2 weeks ago
And for my liberal friends here, I wonder if you knew that Obama joined the socialist New Party in the '90's. http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/302031/obamas-third-party-history-stanley-kurtz#. Say it ain't so. He's not really a socialist, is he?
LSM 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Getting back to Mr. Dunn's essay, amazing that it is always some radicals taking over the Republican Party. Mr. Heim said in a posting not too long ago about the "infiltration" of the Democrat Party here in the South. Radical in Mr. Dunn's and moonchild7 world is wanting to control spending to be at the least equal to tax revenue collected, but not radical is abortion, homosexual marriage, illegal alien rights, and socialism in general. Somewhere along the line the Marxist took over the Democrat Party and have destroyed it. Tru;man would not even run as a Democrat today,
Thatcher 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Great point LSM!
nothingspecial 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Great article, Thatcher. We won't see that on the news this evening I bet. Like Rush or was it Neal said today, if we found out that Mitt had joined that party, he'd be out. Our President is so obviously a socialist, but it is absolutely no surprise to the majority of folks. That is not a bad word either. Just a word that spells political suicide.
Thatcher 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Thanks nothingspecial. I'm still waiting to see how liberals here respond to Obama's double entendre about his own wife. The gay/lesbian audience thought it was funny, but I wonder if others will as well. Cheers!
moonchild7 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Can a few of you please grow up. Sexual Innuendo? It's obvious that President Obama and his wife have a HEALTHY attitude about sex in that they can at times "joke about their sexual beings" with other ADULTS who might enjoy a little bit of such humor. It was okay but not tremendously funny, just enough to "break the ice" with the group he was addressing. I listen to Howard Stern almost everyday... his show is hilarious and a LOT of the JOKES are sexual. Very funny. Oh and President Obama belonged to a "Political" group before he became a Democrat? So what. Life's about learning and if you're not willing to get out there and find out as much as you can, well I think those types tend to be DULL, STUPID and UN-INTERESTING. What do you think of those Republicans who belonged to the SKULL&BONES at Yale? What is that group's "PURPOSE?" Anyone know?
Thatcher 11 months, 2 weeks ago
"What was that group's (Skull & Bones) 'PURPOSE?' Anyone know?" Uh, not to be a socialist? Just a guess.
Bentpan 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Thatcher 2 minutes ago "What was that group's (Skull & Bones) 'PURPOSE?' Anyone know?" Uh, not to be a socialist? Just a guess.
It's just a brotherhood much like Masons only with a substantualy wealthier membership. They support each others business and political aspirations that is when they not busy with..............WORLD DOMINATION!!! ..............there that ought to keep Moonchild7 and Mr Heim busy for a month of sundays ;-)
Bentpan 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Newton
". The win by Walker was not dictated by outside money but rather by a ground game organized by Tea Party activists. These activists are none too excited about Romney as a candidate."........ True we were hoping for someone less likely to compromise with far left democrats, but the one thing you can count on is full support for Romney from the TEA party in Nov. the alternative ( a second term for Pres. Obama is completely unacceptable ) While Romney isn't our first choice but he is far and away the best choice for the next four years for our country's survival and our childrens future.
moonchild7 11 months, 2 weeks ago
WORLD DOMINATION? That's right...the WORST BUNCH of UNDERBELLIED, SCUMBAGGED, and SELF-RIGHTEOUS, PROPRIETORS of MASS HUMAN TERRORISM the WORLD has ever seen.
Bentpan 11 months, 2 weeks ago
TOLD YA ROFLMAO..... I knew MC7 had a sense of humor, you go girl.
Thatcher 11 months, 2 weeks ago
MC7-- I only asked what you thought of Obama joining the socialist New Party in 1996. Though you agreed that he did, I didn't need for you to recite their entire platform. But thanks.
The_AnonymusProfit 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Im moving to have Moon involuntarily commited. I thi k she is a danger to herself and those around her
Thatcher 11 months, 2 weeks ago
MC7-- My hat's off to you. You are the only liberal poster here who had the courage to respond to Obama joining the socialist New Party in 1996. All of your friends stood silent, but you at least addressed the charge. Good for you! At least you are honest. Thank you for that. Cheers!
nothingspecial 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Appreciate your courage too, MC7. The big deal with joining that third political party, is that it wasn't just one of those "young and stupid things". He has been consistently like that before joining and to the present time.
KEY QUOTES FROM ARTICLES DESCRIBING HIS INVOLVEMENT: "The party's purposes and objectives included: The documents reveal that the New Party’s central aim was to move the United States steadily closer to European social democracy, a goal that Mitt Romney has also attributed to Obama. New Party leaders disdained mainstream Democrats, considering them tools of business, and promised instead to create a partnership between elected officials and local community organizations, with the goal of socializing the American economy to an unprecedented degree. The party’s official “statement of principles,” which candidates seeking endorsement from the Chicago chapter were asked to support, called for a “peaceful revolution” and included redistributive proposals substantially to the left of the Democratic party."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2892616/posts
MikeNC 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Moonchild "Mass human terrorism" care to explain? On second thought... Diane
LSM 11 months, 2 weeks ago
@Diane: She might be referring To the TEA Party, even though the press says that they are irreverent, remember that the Vice President of the United States himself said that the TEA Party members were terrorist.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/60421.html
moonchild7 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Mitt Romney is the FIRST State Governor in the United States to have signed into LAW, a health Insurance Mandate for all of it's cititzens (IN CASE YOU GUYS FORGOT): Massachusettes' "COMMONWEALTH HEALTH INSURANCE CONNECTOR AUTHORITY". So, President Obama's "Socialist Beliefs" pale in comparison to Mitts and we have many "Socialist Programs" that were approved for all American's benefit's MANY, MANY years ago. So guys, your ANTI-SOCIALIST talking points have grown stale and old...and are LIES. Definiton of TERROR according to Webster: "A state of intense fear". Kings, Queens, Emperors, Presidents, Prime Ministers, and Revolutionaries have been using TERROR TACTICS to help them RULE their "ROOST"S since the beginning of time. No one owns those tactics. Even SKULL&BONES has an "Executive Class" within that group I'm sure, and they keep everything they know a SECRET from those lesser members. Letting women into the group was another "tactic" that's a joke. Thanks guys for at least recognizing my "FEARLESS BELIEFS". I developed them when I was quite young while trying to deal with a world in the 60's and 70's of such hypocricy, hatred, horror, lies, discrimination and crazy people and events....and they have served me very well.
moonchild7 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Oh, I almost forgot. The citizens in Massachusettes LOVE IT.
Nezumi 11 months, 2 weeks ago
MC - so do the Canadians, so do the Nordics, the Germans, and all those other socialist countries. A lot of people in nations with universal coverage complain about it (UK's NHS for example), but I'll bet none of these countries would pass a referendum in favor of a system like ours. Yes, there are lots of cutbacks going on in Europe in their health systems and we (as a nation) get a lot of medical tourism from these countries because we have incredibly good doctors and technology for those who can pay, but as a system I think we have a lot of improving to do. The only country I know of that has switched from universal coverage to pay-as-you-go or private insurance is China - and I've witnessed the effects of that - not a pretty picture.
jimt 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Nezumi, do you get the impression that to Republican/Conservative legislators/voters "American exceptionalism" means, the United States ain't got nothing to learn from nobody else who ain't exceptional like us "Mericans"?
If European Countries have social policies or tax policies that we do not, by definition it's a bad thing and must never, never become policy here? In earlier times this attitude was called "chauvinism" or "nativism." Another term might be, "beats thinking." Just stick a label on it "socialism" and enough low informed voters will take up their torches and march against it.
Thatcher 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Wow jimt-- Now I'm a "low informed voter." You are on fire tonight. Here's the deal: I will debate you anytime, anywhere...no notes. For charity (my favorite if I win, your favorite if you win). We both put up $1000, and let the audience vote for the winner. Every topic from economics to gay marriage. No notes. At Sandhills CC. Deal?