Veterans Protest Possible Bojangles' Near Memorial
The Moore County Board of Commissioners has been asked by Bojangles’ Corp. to sell vacant land (background) adjacent to the county's veterans memorial in Carthage for a fast food restaurant.
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Military veterans came to the Moore County Board of Commissioners’ meeting Tuesday, hoping for assurance that a fast food restaurant would not be constructed near the war memorial in Carthage.
But that promise was not forthcoming.
Charles Spelman, president of the Moore County-based Vietnam Veterans Chapter 966, led more than 50 veterans and their supporters who urged the board to limit future development of property adjacent to the memorial to professional offices only.
Spelman, a Seven Lakes resident, delivered a 10-minute slide presentation on the local memorial, which included references to similar monuments to veterans in different cities. Carrying placards that read “Respect Our Veterans,” “Keep Our Vets’ Memorial Sacred” and “Honor Our Heroes,” the veterans and supporters stood and sang Lee Greenwood’s “God Bless the USA” at the end of the presentation.
Veteran Ronnie Comer called the area “sacred ground.”
“I’m not against Bojangles’, I’m against where it’s going to be put,” he said. “I don’t want to be sitting there, thinking about my father, and hear ‘May I take your order?’ It’s like putting a Bojangles’ in the middle of a graveyard.”
The issue arose last month when The Pilot filed a request for the county board to release the closed-session meeting minutes from Oct. 18, 2011, and from Feb. 7 and May 15 of this year. The request came after Commissioner Tim Lea accused fellow board members of violating the public meetings law by discussing the sale of property near the war memorial to the Bojangles’ restaurant company.
Those minutes reflect that Bojangles’ wanted to buy a site near the veterans memorial, and that a broker had originally offered $280,000 for 1.3 acres. The state’s open meetings law allows governmental boards to meet in closed session to discuss buying land but not selling it.
Some commissioners say nothing can be decided about the property until an ongoing study of county-owned property is completed.
Commissioner Nick Picerno said the veterans’ reaction was taking place “much too soon.”
“I’ve said it before, and I’ll say again that I think (protesting) this is way too premature,” he said. “Until our land use study is completed, we have no idea what will happen in regard to that property. I can tell you this, though. My father was a prisoner of war in Korea, and his name is on that monument. I will never do anything to desecrate that memorial.”
Commissioners’ Chairman Larry Caddell agreed.
“Until we get the study back we don’t have a clue what will happen,” he said. “My dad served in World War II, and I put my life on hold to serve my country. Thanks for your passion, Mr. Spelman. I have the same passion for the military.”
Commissioner Jimmy Melton thanked the group for their presentation.
“As long as I’m commissioner, this will be sacred ground,” he said, receiving a standing ovation from the audience. “God bless all of you.”
Melton then proposed delaying a decision on the issue until the land use study was complete and Caddell seconded.
Lea spoke before a vote was taken.
“This is not a land-use study question,” he told the veterans. “What you hear are politicians sidestepping the issue. They are using the land-use study as an excuse while we have the authority (right now) to protect the site. Please be vigilant and hold this board accountable.”
Lea is not running for re-election and goes off the board this fall.
Spelman then took the floor.
“I have the documentation here (of the closed session minutes), all behind closed doors that, according to the law, is illegal,” Spelman said]. “This is what it’s all about, gentlemen. The only thing I’m interested in is this war memorial. I didn’t put that presentation together for nothing.”
Caddell responded to Spelman’s accusation.
“We know you have that,” he said. “It’s public record. If anybody was protecting this memorial it was me.”
The vote to postpone a decision on protecting the land adjacent to the memorial passed 3-2, with Lea and Picerno voting against.
Gulf War veteran Jean Beadle, who attended the meeting, said that she and other veterans felt “betrayed” by the board.
“I felt that except for Commissioner Lea and the one sitting beside him who didn’t say much (Commissioner Craig Kennedy), they were lying to us, and when I went home and read the closed session minutes I knew that they were,” Beadle said. “They have the power to protect that land now, but it’s obvious that some of them have an agenda. They can sugar coat it by saying their decision to postpone a decision is best for the county, but it’s not. They’re looking out for themselves, not the county, and certainly not the veterans.”
Picerno explained his “no” vote after the meeting.
“I felt like we didn’t need to take any action,” he said. “I don’t want to discuss the issue at all, yet. We need a vision, a plan, before we decide.”
Another area of contention between Picerno and Lea concerned the transfer of property to the county Senior Enrichment Center.
In 1999, the county purchased two acres from landowner David Drexel, who donated another two acres as the location of a planned Senior Enrichment Center.
In 2007, the county built a center at another location, leaving the Drexel property undeveloped. It was suggested at the time that proceeds from any future sale of the Drexel property would be donated to the Senior Enrichment Center.
Regarding a resolution presented at Tuesday’s meeting designed to confirm that all proceeds from a sale would go to the Senior Enrichment Center, Picerno said he would support the language in the resolution provided a small change was made.
Lea offered a second before Picerno stopped him.
“Before you make your second let me say this,” Lea said. “I would like the phrase that states the land would ‘be donated’ changed to ‘be used for the purpose of.’ If we donate the land to you,” he told the two Senior Enrichment Center representatives present, “there will be no accountability from an elected official.”
But Lea took issue with Picerno’s request.
“I don’t know if future boards will understand this,” he said. “If the resolution is left intact, then the funds automatically go to the Senior Enrichment Center as originally intended. What you’re doing is bringing it in to the political arena.”
County attorney Misty Leland stated that since the Senior Enrichment Center is affiliated with a county agency then “no committee” can make a decision about the use of land sale funds anyway.
“You mean if we leave the word ‘donated’ it’s still up to the ‘politicians?’” Picerno asked sarcastically.
He then re-introduced the motion to include the original language, which Lea seconded. The resolution passed unanimously.
Contact John Lentz at (910) 693-2479 or jlentz@thepilto.com.
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cooldaddy 10 months ago
Lea is grandstanding...omg... The memorial is beside some of the worst slouches in the county Child Molesters and abusers go in SS every day of the week. Hardees is right there. Traffic is all around and they want offices? Just enjoy the memorial people. I do. The noise and view was set when they put the memorial there. Hardees was there then! Get a clue. Stop over blowing an issue. Plant heavy growth trees around the memorial if needed but have some common sense. Stirring emotions on the backs of our veterans for your own political gain is the lowest. That's what you have here. Wonderful, well meaning veterans who are at the top of our list of respect, who are being used by a man who always opposes common sense and is now either looking for a higher political office, or to go out draped in a flag.
Courseaire 10 months ago
The only thing more American than Bojangles is MacDonalds & Apple Pie. You Vets - get a grip. Besides, you won't be hear "May I take your order" unless you turn your hearing aids up to full volume.
Toda 10 months ago
Having followed politics in Poorer County for decades, with the exception of Commissioner Lea, there has never been another board that places self-serving interests above the interests and will of the people they are supposed to serve.
“We know you have that,” he said. “It’s public record. If anybody was protecting this memorial it was me.” And if those "public minuets along with recordings had not come to the public's purview, we would have never known that the Chairman was playing attorney at the expense of the people. We would have never known another violation of the Sunshine Law had been violated yet once again.
Caddell should have been honest an took ownership of his lie about protecting this memorial, since he was practicing law without licence to skirt the legal issues to have his Bojangles end up on taxpayer property.
Toda 10 months ago
"If we donate the land to you,” he told the two Senior Enrichment Center representatives present, “there will be no accountability from an elected official.”
When local county government wants off the hook, they have their representatives in the General Assembly pass laws for the convenience of golf courses, Pinehurst Inc., hotels and motels for an event staged in golf kingdom's fly-ins.
Just_My_Opinion 10 months ago
Courseaire - you should be ashamed of yourself
ninesyspup 10 months ago
I agree. Coursaire you should be ashamed of yourself. Just because you do not have a dog in the fight means you get to ridicule those that feel they do. I saw where one of the commissioners said it was too early to protest. All I can say the earlier the better. MAKE IT HEARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
herecomesthescience 10 months ago
This is a non-issue. Why in the world did they put the memorial on the busiest highway in the area, in the middle of already existing fast food and retail areas? Just plain stupid. To protest now over one more business that is legally zoned to be there, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT is moronic. I am all for respecting our vets and keeping the memory of their sacrifice alive, but they should be mad at the genius who decided to put the thing there in the first place, not Bojangles. Can anybody explain why it was put there to begin with? It seems they could have found anywhere that would have been better than that ugly stretch of land. If anything the memorial should be moved to a nicer location, where people can come to enjoy it and pay their respects without having to be on the side of the road in an ugly field of parking lots and buildings. It would not seem to be a huge process to move it, these are not graves, just find a better spot, in a park maybe, and move them.
Toda 10 months ago
herecomesthescience ~ the issue as I see it is the pending sale of taxpayer owned property behind closed doors along with violations of ethics and state law. Those are the issues in my opinion....
monkeyman 10 months ago
As I read some of the comments you are making this is what is wrong with our county and I surely hope you are not a veteran.My name is Chuck Spelman, President of the Vietnam Veterans of America, and I take this situation very personal. After seeing how certain board members operate in Moore County with our tax money it makes me wonder how the the Federal government operates. What Tim Lee did by taking a stand even though he is coming off the board was very honorable. I have met with the Moore County Memorial Board and the what was read by Robert Hunt in no way reflects their feelings. The document that Robert Hunt presented has a paragraph setting aside the 1 1/2 for commerical use (Bogangles). That is what we and the Memorial Committee are trying to stop. Tend to wonder who wrote this. What certain Commissioners of Moore County are trying to do behind close doors is not only illegal but a disgrace to those KIA'a and families who paid the supreme sacrifice. I have just come back from Bethesda Naval Hospital and the attitude of those with mental as well as physical hardships was incredable.I am veteran of 27 years both enlisted and officer and I look at this as a disgrace to the men and women who wear and have worn the uniform of the Armed Forces of America. I need all active duty (ck with your unit first for any legal issues) and retired to come to Carthage Old Courthouse on the square on August 7th at 6:00 pm ."FREEDOM is NOT FREE" I have a slide presentation that I cannot E Mail due to size but have it on disk and would share with all. We would like to put it on U Tube and that is a work in progress. Once again ,"Thank you for all who are serving and those who have served. I thank John Lentz for writing the truth.
Charles (Chuck) Spelman President of Chapter 966 Vietnam Veterans of America (ALL VETERANS) maj03@earthlink.net
herecomesthescience 10 months ago
Toda- I realize that, but I sincerely want to know why in the word it was placed there in the first place. It just seems like the worst possible spot to honor our vets.
Zoey 10 months ago
@cooldaddy,- "little"joe, you can hide behind any name you like, but your stupidity shows through. Whata twit....
monkeyman 10 months ago
Question on why it was located where it is may never be known. I am quoting from open public notes,"George Hunt, Veterans Services Director stated the committee, after having looked at numerous locations, had made their first choice County owned property adjacent at the Carriage Oaks Property which had access to Highway 15-501. Mr Hunt also noted that the commititee wanted the memorial to be first-class." After Raymond Doby founder of the Monument Committee presented his request and location of the monument Commissioner David Cummings made a motion to accept and was seconded by Commissioner Robert Ewing, the board voted unanimously to adopt a Resolution designating a parcel of county property at Carriage Oaks for the erection of a Moore County Veteran Memorial and to authorize the County Manager to execute any instruments necessary to proceed with the project .Adopted,stamped and seal on 18th day October 2004.
Charles Spelman
skylinefirepest 10 months ago
As a vet I don't object to a fast food across the street...however, Courseair, you owe the vets an apology for your unthinking, uncaring comment. My first reaction to your comment was to tell you to kiss where the sun don't shine. I'm pleased with myself that I refrained from telling you that!
Bflat 10 months ago
I sincerely hope that County owned property is not sold to Bo's at the site close to the Veteran's Memorial. For certain County Commissioners to show such comtempt and disrespect by the "delay" on the resolution speaks volumes, as does their intent "behind closed doors" meeting. That was illegal. The whole thing speaks volumes about their positions as well as their character. They are not to be trusted.
NewspaperReader 10 months ago
What's the big deal? We'll all be able to show our respect and enjoy a cajun filet biscuit at the same time!
AFCHIEF 10 months ago
Put up some leyland cypress trees and form a boundry and be down with this silly argurement
Mozambique 10 months ago
In the Army I've spent more time in combat than not, and I didn't do it for awards or decorations, and I sure as heck didn't do it for a memorial. Mr. Spelman, you were right about one thing: "this is what is wrong with our county." What's wrong with our country is that everyone cliques together with some commonality to try to get preferential treatment and government attention over other groups. I sickens me how my fellow vets have become so whiney and expecting of accolades and handouts. Some of the veteran's groups (I'm not saying yours) seem like they will never be happy until each and every vet serves his or her couple of years and simply gets to retire. I don't want to be linked with any of the current vet groups. We are supposed to be selfless and 'let our actions speak for themselves'....not our constant complaining.
Toda 10 months ago
AFCHIEF 1 hour, 29 minutes ago ~ I'm sure you are content with Caddell acting as the county attorney, violations of the Sunshine Law, and ethical behaviors that have permeated the old courthouse since Caddell ran unopposed.
Toda 10 months ago
herecomesthescience 6 hours, 9 minutes ago
cooldaddy 10 months ago
Amen Mozam! Thank you! A real leader and example. Thank you for serving us sir, even though you don't ask for it...thank you! Thank the rest of you who served also. Read Mozams post please. Spot on....PERIOD.
AFCHIEF 10 months ago
Toda, what does my post have to do with Larry Caddel? NOTHING
monkeyman 10 months ago
Mozambique, Please help me to understand what you were saying. I need to understand issues that people have because I care for the welfare of all vets. I don't expect to be special but I do know we including yourself put your life on the line and came home. Its those who have their names on the KIA's wall and their families that I really represent. I have tried to be open minded throughout this whole issue but when I was enlisted or officer I was responsible for their lives and others around them. To me we are like a fraternity and we need to remember those brothers that we left behind. I have seen some vets with the atttutde that if is not in my backyard don't bother me. Last Tuesday night in the Commissioners meeting many vets showed up and I really felt proud that they thought enough of the Monument to defend it. Mozambique drop me a note here or I will be glad to talk to you. Thank you for your comment.
Chuck Spelman
cooldaddy 10 months ago
AFChief...you are spot on as well.
NewspaperReader 10 months ago
Toda, Larry Caddell is an exceptional person.
For what reason do you believe that this vacant land should remain so?
herecomesthescience 10 months ago
So apparently people are upset about the already tacky locale of the memorial becoming even more tacky because the Bojangles is a bit closer than Hardees already is. Stay classy, Carthage.
herecomesthescience 10 months ago
Amen, PM. Move it to a park...or anywhere else. "side of the road" does not scream HONOR.
koppenhofer 10 months ago
What absolutely amazes me is the ignorance that is associated with this entire topic. Everyone has their opinion, their "question". Question answered number 1. The reason the memorial is there is because the land WAS DONATED BY A VETERAN. Sorry it doesn't appeal as an ideal location. I wonder if you have anything you could donate to anyone??? A shoestring, a dollar? Question number 2 answered. The difference in location is that the Bojangles will be DIRECTLY in front of the memorial, with dumpsters, employees smoking and bitching, etc, etc, right in front of the memorial, taking away the VIEW of the memorial from the outside, and the inside.
Now that said. Veterans and non veterans alike who have made these calous comments. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. You are a product of what has become the sad state of our apathetic nation. SHAME ON YOU. Go have dinner with a member of the Calvary like I have. Go have a drink with someone who was in the death march, or a POW.. These men are advanced in years, this tribute means THE WORLD to them, it means that people care, appreciate, and respect their sacrifice, their service, their struggles in the name of our nation. It means they will be memorialized, that their comrades ARE memorialized. And why don't you all just drive into Aberdeen and get a damned biscuit to fill your mouth and shut it.
Oh, and think about the government you've elected into office, yeah, that might be time better spent, oh, that's right, you probably DIDNT VOTE. HURAH to Tim! We've been LUCKY to have you sir.
spartan 10 months ago
WOW.....I was at this meeting and all I could think of was...this is a small town "BOSS" episode! It smelled like biscuit kick backs and a river of dirty sweet tea. These lots were donated to the county for this memorial! I could understand if Carthage were some thriving metropolis where land is a premium....but its....Carthage! Just wait six months for the next new video store to close and put your lard slinger in its place! I tend to agree with "herecomesthescience"...get the memorial out of Carthage...far far away from Carthage.. Vets deserve better!!
monkeyman 10 months ago
Your comments have been both inspiring and opinions that I guess I need to hear. I was the one that the gentlemen talks about who did the slide presentation Tuesday night. As I traveled about from here to Maryland I made an effort to takes pictures of monuments and look at their location. There were no commerical buildings located with a 3/4 mile radias of any monument. I have even gone to veterans of all wars and they agree what certain Commissioners are trying to do is not only wrong but as I have found out with federal channels won't be done. I'm not saying putting the monument there was the right place to put it but that is what the county voted on and thats what the Memorial Committee elected for a location. Many of our, yes, our veterans were invited to different schools in Moore County for Veterans Day and listened to essays of children who were 10 and 11 years old. As I listened to them it occured to me their generation and their parents were not alive when we fought yet the works they spoke were references of their Grandparents. I as an American was very pround of them and was able to distribute their message to others. America has changed! As we listen to the news where is the positive, what people have done to help others, not killed their neighbor or wrecked driving drunk. We have been conditioned to look for the negative and not for the positive. As I saw the soldiers laying in Bethesda Naval Hospital, they had accepted what had happen to then and realized life didn't stop. They had to make changes in their future but they were positive in their outlook and didn't look for self pitty. We need to look to our future and decide what is right and what is wrong. The founder of the Moore County Monument is Mr. Doby who is 84 yrs. old and just had surgery on the only kidney he has. George Hunt, VVA Rep for Moore County is laying in bed dying of leukemia. The gentlemen who was at the meeting Tuesday night, I do take offense with your comments as well as others but thats what we call,"Freedom of Speech." and its your right. What the Commissioners did behind close doors was their choice but a bad one as they have been exposed. Is this an example of how our Federal Government conducts business, I would hope not. My question to you is ,'Are you saying you accept what the Commissioners have done?" If so you are just as guility as they are. Gentlemen you have my name and E Mail and would try and answer your questions and or challenges. As in the last slide Tuesday night, "I AM A VETERAN."
Chuck Spelman maj03@earthlink.net
Toda 10 months ago
AFChief ~ "form a boundry and be down with this silly argurement"
Obviously you don't keep up with the political shenanigans of Caddell and company since he became a commissioner. Read the minutes of the meetings, listen to the tapes, and read the comments by our county attorney Misty Leland. This fiasco being paraded like it's Caddell who is holding the sale in abeyance is crap. Caddell has talked about bringing Bojangles to Poorer County since he ran unopposed. Perhaps the legal issues that prompted our Raleigh representatives to raise the amounts that a sworn government official can receive for their company while holding office.
Toda 10 months ago
NewspaperReader 9 hours, 58 minutes ago Toda, Larry Caddell is an exceptional person.
For what reason do you believe that this vacant land should remain so?
The memorial could be moved just like remains in a grave can be moved. Better yet, let Bojangle acquire land on 15-501 between Carriage Oaks and the Town Hall that Caddell wanted as Mayor. He thought that was a good spot then for town offices, so what's wrong with another fast food establishment moving there as well?
Toda 10 months ago
PM 8 hours, 29 minutes ago Question for Toda... Whats up with slandering the name of this great county by calling it "Poorer County"?
Schools have always submitted a briefly formatted budge in a Power Point without line item specifics. It's been over 5 years since teachers and professors at Sandhills had a raise. Yet, drive through the SCC Campus and marvel at the new buildings: two new and one finishing.
Should you have difficulty with the math, send me the documents and I'll do the math for you.
NewspaperReader 10 months ago
Toda - "That property was purchased as part of the Carriage Oaks Shopping Center for future county growth"
What do you consider Bojangle's?
dustyrhoades 10 months ago
I don't seriously believe Bojangles is going to come here. I remember a few years ago someone was going to put a KFC/Taco Bell in next to the John Deere place. Never happened. I even have serious doubts about this so-called "mini Wal Mart."
Toda 10 months ago
koppenhofer ~ very well spoken and a true American Hero in my opinion. If only a Captain in one of my classes last year could speak to some of the people posting on here about the firefights he encounter in Afghanistan, just maybe, just maybe, they could see the life changing events in their and their families lives. But I doubt some idiots would ever understand.
Toda 10 months ago
NewspaperReader => I'm sure Caddell and company could show a correlation between Bojangles and a county government office.
spartan 10 months ago
"monkeyman"...you are the last person I wanted to offend. I was at first inspired by your efforts both leading up to the meeting and then with your presentation to the board. You have a a better understanding of the politics involved here....I walked away feeling disillusioned and embarrassed that I applauded certain board members comments. My comments were knee jerk born out of frustration. I realize that moving our memorial is not the answer....and I want to be at the meeting (or will that be behind closed doors also) when this mystical "land usage" survey comes back. Keep up the good fight sir....and thank-you for shining the light!
monkeyman 10 months ago
Spartan, Thank you sir! I just got a call from a congressional official and it has reached their level. Also been advise that Southern Software is presenting most of the negitave comments. Their day is comming fast. Proud to served for my country are you?
NewspaperReader 10 months ago
Toda, is a government office what you consider growth?
clarabelle 10 months ago
" skylinefirepest - As a vet I don't object to a fast food across the street...however, Courseair, you owe the vets an apology for your unthinking, uncaring comment. My first reaction to your comment was to tell you to kiss where the sun don't shine. I'm pleased with myself that I refrained from telling you that!
and yet - that's exactly what you do. What a loon!
Toda 10 months ago
NewspaperReader 1 hour, 33 minutes ago Toda, is a government office what you consider growth?
I think Caddell and company are thinking about the Kirby property near the Board of Elections now that several million extra has gone into the Gold Bar Hilton. Shall we venture back to the bids passed over by the contractor and architect who built the Harnett County Detention Center?
Toda 10 months ago
monkeyman ~ The Pilot continues to permit anyone with an email address and an IP to set up an account. Guess how many accounts by family and friends of Southern Software, Inc have accounts on these blogs?
NewspaperReader 10 months ago
Let me guess - anyone who disagrees with you here is friends and family of Southern Software
cooldaddy 10 months ago
It seems to be todas only theme...he is a fragile cracked record. Here's how dumb I am...it just hit me that toda...tommie davis of aberdeen, has to draw attention to himself. He needs it. His hometown has seen nothing of him as far as help goes. This post is about vets and the land use, yet he seems to change the topic to his narrow focus. God bless all the vets and those serving...hope they get happy with some sort of compromise...maybe a buffered area. and maybe that could be a bonus with nice landscaping added to the site.
Bflat 10 months ago
cooldaddy joe, Toda was answering questions that other asked of him. He pointed out the truth when answering those questions so that others understand exactly what is going on with certain County Commissioners that want to sell COUNTY OWNED LAND to Bojangles next door to the Veterans Memorial. A bit of history was provided that anyone can check that will find very factual that leads directly to the same ole thing that is going on right now with the threat of commercialism next to the Veteran's Memorial because some unprofessional and uncaring Commissioners that don't give one whip went behind closed doors illegally to consider sale of the County Owned land. Consider that the next time you line up and mindlessly vote for the same old politicians by hitting the button without knowing who you are voting for or what the politician has done. Be a responsible voter.
Thank you Commissioner Lea for all your have done for Moore County and for standing up to do the right thing. Too bad you will not be in there to keep things in check after your term is up.
Bflat 10 months ago
" dustyrhoades 9 hours, 28 minutes ago I don't seriously believe Bojangles is going to come here. I remember a few years ago someone was going to put a KFC/Taco Bell in next to the John Deere place. Never happened. I even have serious doubts about this so-called "mini Wal Mart." "
@>Dusty, Bo's was going to go across from Flying Tiger last year and for some reason backed out on the land deal. Before that it was rumored KFC was going in there. It closed to WalMart in the last week or two and is being cleared...turned out there wasn't over 5 acres of land there as first advertised, though, and less than 3.
NewspaperReader 10 months ago
The one thing I definitely never think as I pass through Carthage is, "man, there are just too many food choices."
RD28327 10 months ago
I don't care where the darn thing is built, just build it!!! I'm getting hungry!!!
Thatcher 10 months ago
@ Toda and MikeNC (and all others who love dogs)-- Sorry to get off topic here, but the other thread appears to be closed. I just finished reading "The Art of Racing in the Rain," by Garth Stein. It will make all dog lovers laugh, cry, and think. Then cry some more, although it is so uplifting. I think you guys will love this novel. Be well, folks. Cheers!
Thatcher 10 months ago
Sorry folks for the interruption. Carry on, please!
Bflat 10 months ago
@RD getting hungry, there are around 11 restaurants in Carthage, so how many more can a small town of that size support?
cooldaddy 10 months ago
flat is so pathetic.
cooldaddy 10 months ago
Perfect job for toda. DOGCATCHER! he can get paid, do what he loves, talk all day to something that is breathing and will be attentive, and skim off a few snacks for his own pet! The public would be served! Topics on these blogs would be less cluttered with his garbage and false claims. on topic, The one thing the Vet issue has done is raise awareness of where the memorial is and maybe stirred many to visit. Love that.
cooldaddy 10 months ago
RD...Flat sounds like a nazi who would love to limit how and what you do. We, the people, will vote that mindset out this year. Now you do what Flat says and run on over to one of your 11 resturants this morning. That's all you get. How many are open this morning? 4? 5? Ok now run on over. What? you want more choices? You like Bojangles? Shame on you!!! Flat tells the secret police. The secret police tell the next higher up, and soon word will be back to Hitler! You will be punished! .......but in the real world, away from the likes of people who actually protested McDonald's going to Carthage. (fathom that one), businesses will open and do what they feel will work.
NewspaperReader 10 months ago
Maybe more people would want to live near Carthage if they didn't have to drive 20 minutes just to get a chicken biscuit!
Bflat 10 months ago
Businesses will close when there is too much "supply" and not enough "demand." That's what I meant in asking the question on how many more restaurants can a town of that size support?
Bojangle's is free to go buy land other than the County Owned land to add to all the choices. How We just don't want it next door to the Veteran's Memorial.
NewspaperReader 10 months ago
There is a "demand" for chicken biscuits but no "supply."
Toda 10 months ago
PM 21 hours, 27 minutes ago
Maybe I'll get sued so all of Sheriff Carters dirty laundry can be hung out to dry in the court of public opinion. Commission Picerno was given notice of the Sargent's less than professional behavior. Perhaps a formal letter to the entire board will communicate a story in The Pilot.
Toda 10 months ago
cooldaddy 5 hours, 34 minutes ago "Perfect job for toda. DOGCATCHER! he can get paid, do what he loves, talk all day to something that is breathing and will be attentive, and skim off a few snacks for his own pet!"
You're off topic like any adolescent does when discussing property owned by taxpayers that Caddell wants to sell. So he can acquire more for county offices and buildings.
Be careful smart ass, you know I lost my baby girl of 10 years. I will find out who you are and schedule an appointment for a one on one discussion.
Toda 10 months ago
NewspaperReader 21 hours, 9 minutes ago "Let me guess - anyone who disagrees with you here is friends and family of Southern Software"
Keep it coming folks, I've seen this crap before over the past three years. Never ceases to amaze me how many come on and post threads just to start arguments and baseless accusations.
PM hasn't responded to a legitimate proposal about the county debt of 202% since the current board took office.
He or she would rather throw stones than to answer the question of debt. But the again some people just aren't that smart.
Toda 10 months ago
wdd101st 13 hours, 2 minutes ago "Tommy, why are you so mad? You lost an election, big deal."
I sure did keep the Tillman folks running hard to put out signs and driving several hundred miles to make speeches.
Spew all the nonsense you want, the outcome is still the same! by Tommy Davis
Toda 10 months ago
Thank you Thatcher ... I'll look it up at Barnes and Noble.
cooldaddy 10 months ago
omg...Dear Abby blog here. Get well soon Toda...Get help. You are off on every sentence dumb a
Bflat 10 months ago
The Bojangles "behind closed doors" meeting is already looking like it's a done deal to put Bo's next to the Veteran's Memoral.. The Veteran's group should call the Franchise Corporate office and discourage the location. .
AFCHIEF 10 months ago
toda, please go take your meds and go away please.
Thatcher 10 months ago
Toda-- No need for Barnes and Noble. I'll mail you my copy. Enjoy, and please let me know what you thought of the book. Cheers!
RD28327 10 months ago
It's good to be able to make choices and good to have more choices. Bring on Bojangles! And if KFC, Burger King, Taco Hell and others want to come here, heck, go ahead!!! More jobs for folks and more choices for my dining pleasure!
NewspaperReader 10 months ago
Toda - "if you had some history on these blogs, you would find that most of the naysayers divert the comments to off handed personal attacks when there is no defense against factual information."
From what I've seen so far, I think you are projecting just a tad.