Liars, Liars, Pants on Fire
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Thirty-three times in 18 months. That’s how many times the Republican-controlled Senate has voted to repeal all or part of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (which they call “Obama-care”), even though they know that such a measure is doomed to fail in the Senate.
Even if such a bill through some miracle managed to somehow survive the Senate, it would certainly be vetoed by President Barack Obama. The most recent vote came this past Wednesday.
I’ve often said that a key quirk in the wingnut psyche is the absolutely unshakeable conviction that if something fails repeatedly, it’s because they just didn’t ram their heads against the wall hard enough. “The economy crashed despite big tax cuts? That just means we need more tax cuts to grow the economy!” And so on.
There’s a fine line between perseverance and insanity, and Cryin’ John Boehner and his merry band of fools crossed that line so long ago that they can’t even see it in the rearview mirror anymore.
Of course, it’s entirely possible that this wasn’t some form of mental illness on the part of the Prince of Orange and his crew. There are some cynics who say that the Republican leadership knew the measure, like the 32 before it, was doomed to fail. There are some who even say that the whole thing was a political stunt.
They say the whole thing’s a ploy to get House members staked out on their positions on the health care reform bill so that those votes could be used against them in the upcoming election, when those impressive voiceover announcers who only seem to surface at election time will be intoning “Congressman Schmendrick voted with Obama” with the type of voice-of-doom gravitas that suggests that they equate that voting record with unqualified support for child molestation.
But that’s hard to believe, don’t you think? I mean, that would make the Republican leadership seem like a bunch of completely politicized hacks who would take one of the 42 remaining days they’ve allotted themselves until the end of the year to address the people’s business and use it for the sole purpose of creating sound bites.
That would be a crassly cynical act by a party that’s decided to abandon the idea of addressing any real progress on jobs, immigration, national security, energy independence or any substantive issue at all, a party whose one and only priority is not governing, but winning.
That can’t really be it, can it? I mean, I know that’s what Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said was his party’s “No. 1 priority” a while back, but he was joking, right? Because that would make them seem pretty useless to the average American.
No, I’ve got to go with insanity here. Another indicator that the Republicans are suffering from some sort of mental breakdown is the things they say about the ACA that are completely divorced from the reality of the actual bill.
Quotes like Mitt Romney’s assertion that “Obamacare puts the government between you and your doctor.” Or his claim that “Obamacare means 20 million American will lose the health insurance they have and want to keep.”
Or the oft-repeated claim, most recently seen in an ad from one of those shadowy anonymous SuperPACs attacking Florida Sen. Ben Nelson, that the health care law’s cost will be $2 trillion, “double what we were promised.” Or the claim from Florida Gov. Rick Scott that a company with 20 employees “could go out of business” because of the law’s requirement to buy insurance (even though companies with fewer than 50 employees are exempt from that requirement).
All of these assertions have been rated “false” by the nonpartisan fact-checking site Politifact. The “business with 20 employees” canard from Scott was given the lowest rating for truthfulness: “Pants on Fire.” And yet Republicans keep repeating these and other proven falsehoods over and over and over again.
Now, some people would insist that that means they’re all a pack of liars who have such complete contempt for the American voter that they think you’ll believe anything.
To believe they’re not seriously delusional would mean that they believe, as Adolf Hitler stated in “Mein Kampf,” that “in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility … for the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world.”
And that can’t be right. They can’t really think that way. Can they?
Dusty Rhoades lives, writes and practices law in Carthage. Contact him at dustyr@ nc.rr.com.
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JimRussell44 10 months, 1 week ago
Typo in the first paragraph. The Republicans control the House, not the Senate.
dustyrhoades 10 months, 1 week ago
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Toda 10 months, 1 week ago
DRjr. ~ one point that I feel is most important and was left out of your article is the cost of the Republican hyperbole. Reports I've read range from a low of 24 million per day to as much as 30 million per day. Taking the lower of the two expenses, 24 (2) = 48 million for a two day session. Now some serious math: 48 (33) = 1584 or 1,584,000,000.
lakeview 10 months, 1 week ago
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Toda 10 months, 1 week ago
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lakeview 10 months, 1 week ago
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The_AnonymusProfit 10 months, 1 week ago
I drank to much Wine for this last night. Ill come back later.
Toda 10 months, 1 week ago
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AFCHIEF 10 months, 1 week ago
Another couple of minutes of my life wasted reading this article
Toda 10 months, 1 week ago
"I wonder how many on here don't know who I am." Corrected...
dustyrhoades 10 months, 1 week ago
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The_AnonymusProfit 10 months, 1 week ago
You no the crazy thing is take out the word republican and put in democrat and take out health care and add whatever....you get my point. Its all mylarkey
LSM 10 months, 1 week ago
@TAP
You mean like this. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-administration-repeated-same-line-jobs-numbers-nearly-171329360.html
lakeview 10 months, 1 week ago
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clarabelle 10 months, 1 week ago
AFCHIEF - Another couple of minutes of my life wasted reading this article
versus taking your 3rd grade reader to the outhouse for perusal!
Thatcher 10 months, 1 week ago
Politifact is a liberal Tampa Bay (FL) newspaper. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PolitiFa.... Even they say Obama's claim that Romney and Bain were pioneers in outsourcing jobs is a "half truth." http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jul/13/barack-obama/were-romneys-companies-pioneers-outsourcing/. And the Washington Post's Fact Checker (not "non-partisan", but equally liberal) has given Obama's claim that Romney stayed at Bain until 2002 and has committed a felony because of SEC filings "3 Pinocchios," and they were (as they say) tempted to give it 4. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/do-bain-sec-documents-suggest-mitt-romney-is-a-criminal/2012/07/12/gJQAlyPpgW_blog.html. And for those who do not know what a "Pinocchio" is, here it is: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/about-the-fact-checker/2011/12/05/gIQAa0FBYO_blog.html. Hope that helps. Cheers! (P.S. And when Fact Checker says "whopper," they are not referring to Burger King).
Thatcher 10 months, 1 week ago
"So either he's (Romney's) lying to you, or he's a felon for filing false SEC documents." "Your boy (Romney) is not going to wriggle out of this one." (DR, posting 2 days, 9 hours ago, on "All Obama's Fault"). Sorta like trying to light wet firecrackers in the rain. But I am curious: how is one a "felon" when they have never been charged, let alone convicted, of a felony? Hopefully, some "non-partisan" lawyers here can help us out on this topic, since the "non-partisan" fact checkers have already done their job. Cheers!
clarabelle 10 months, 1 week ago
Thatcher - if i listed all of the lies romney has perpetuated - they would have to leave this thread open until 2014.
So............. whats your point - as if you ever had any!
The_AnonymusProfit 10 months, 1 week ago
See this is the thing, none of this gets us anywhere close to a solution. The bottom line is sparing a massive drop in unemployment, Romney will win in November, which means obamacare will be repealed, so what is the solution, we know that obamacare is bad, but what do we replace it with. Obviously something has to be done.
The other thing for all you republicans to consider is, are you actually willing to put your words into action, the only thing that will right this country is a rdrastic return to our founding principles of limited government, are you willing to give up your own personal welfare or are your words just that...words.
dustyrhoades 10 months, 1 week ago
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Thatcher 10 months, 1 week ago
And my posts were not meant to be a slam at DR. He writes very funny columns, and often posts very good comments here (when not combating other posters with mutual name-calling, etc.). Here, he jumped the gun, and he was wrong. Cheers!
dustyrhoades 10 months, 1 week ago
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Thatcher 10 months, 1 week ago
Yes, I am.
OldPilot 10 months, 1 week ago
A classic take on the Nixon Conundrum: "is he lying or is he stupid"? Are Republicans performing these repeated votes in bad faith or are they so brainless that they believe we the people are stupid enough to accept that they are acting in good faith?
Thatcher 10 months, 1 week ago
When you defend a client who swears he is innocent, and the jury agrees with you and says, "Not Guilty," do you call your client a felon? What do you call him when he's not even been charged in the first place?
dustyrhoades 10 months, 1 week ago
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lakeview 10 months, 1 week ago
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Thatcher 10 months, 1 week ago
No, DR. You have represented many people charged with a crime (felony or otherwise). I have met some folks whom you represented, and they all have said you are a good lawyer. If one of your clients had been found "not guilty" (which many have been), you would never refer to them as felons. Not sure if I'm part of the "right wing goon squad" to which you refer. Demanding Romney's tax returns does not shift attention away from the fact that, here, you were wrong. Even good lawyers can be wrong. Cheers!
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lakeview 10 months, 1 week ago
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cooldaddy 10 months, 1 week ago
Mark, Does Toda work for you? I would make my own coffee if so. -
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Sherwood 10 months, 1 week ago
Yikes. A lot of tension in here!
I don't mean to butt in, but what are the determinants of a "good lawyer?" Serious question.
How does one go about finding a good lawyer? Word of mouth? If I'm shopping around for a lawyer, ask someone about a particular lawyer, and they say "He/she is not a good lawyer," is that defamation or slander per se? If not, at what point does it become slander? Are there any so called objective metrics for determining whether or not a lawyer will be "good?" I'm sure it's more complicated than just looking at win-loss ratios...
Please forgive my ignorance and refusal to use Google!
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lakeview 10 months, 1 week ago
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Sherwood 10 months, 1 week ago
Crisis averted!
That makes sense, Dusty. Thanks for clarifying your situation. I could still use some advice for finding a good lawyer in general, though. Ha!
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dustyrhoades 10 months, 1 week ago
I see they've chosen the carpet bombing solution.
dustyrhoades 10 months, 1 week ago
Well, let me at least repost my correction:
Typo in the first paragraph. The Republicans control the House, not the Senate.
You are, of course, correct. I could have sworn I said House,, but I checked and yep, there it is. My apologies.
MikeNC 10 months, 1 week ago
Wow...Another article that goes South quickly over foolishness. That was totally unacceptable on what you said lakeview. I see above that Dusty has let you off the hook. Probably nothing more than a lesson in squirm, but appears the lesson was effective. The place where political nonsense leads all of us sometimes is crazy. Here is another perfect example why these comment sections should only be open for comment under an actual name and forget about all the anonymous authors. If that actually means they will not post....so be it and shut the whole thing down as it has become little else other than a gossip and flame section anyhow. Notice how this only happens on columns that are political in nature. Most 'feel good' stories do not have this banter and usually are completely ignored all together. I wonder if The Pilot actually knows real names of the anonymous posters? I have a feeling NOT. My 2 cents for the day....Mike
dustyrhoades 10 months, 1 week ago
Glad we see eye to eye on something Mike.
Courseaire 10 months, 1 week ago
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dustyrhoades 10 months, 1 week ago
Heh.
Bflat 10 months, 1 week ago
@>DR _ I lost track of how many comments removed, kind of like the headache I got on trying to keep up with the # of repeals of the Healthcare bill. :))
The_AnonymusProfit 10 months, 1 week ago
Ok i must say im confused. I didnt see any thing that dusty said worthy of being erased.
Bflat 10 months, 1 week ago
I got on here too late to see anything. ;-) In other words, I missed all the action.