Disturbing Language Overheard in the Waiting Room

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By Hilda Mitchell

Special to The Pilot

My husband, Joe, was taken to a small waiting room at Carolina Eye Clinic. Four other waiting patients were conversing in voices loud enough to hear.

First they expressed hatred for the "sorry immigrants who are taking our jobs." Then their conversation turned to politics. One said he was a Baptist and was therefore critical of Romney's Mormon religion. However, he concluded, "Anybody but Obama!" Others agreed that they also hated Obama.

The next topic was homosexuality. The language became vicious. The word "queer" was used freely. One patient said, "Some churches even have homosexual clergy!" The others were aghast.

Joe said their words united them into a ganglike attitude. The conversation turned to guns. Approving the right to carry concealed weapons, one patient said if it were up to him, he would shoot Jerry Sandusky without a trial.

When he told this story, I wondered how Joe, an 83-year-old veteran, kept his mouth shut. For 35 years of his life, through wars and peace, he defended all citizens. How disappointing to learn that we live among some who have no respect for the office of the presidency or the law, who have no compassion for others, and who use their form of Christianity to justify hatred of other religions.

"Not only do they hate everything we love about our country and church," Joe said, "but they haven't learned to speak our language correctly."

I turned to Facebook, looking for uplifting entries my daughters usually put on my wall. I needed a change. After enjoying the latest pictures of my grandchildren, I scrolled down to see a picture of Jesus. The caption was, "If Jesus were here today, He wouldn't recognize his followers."

I learned as a military wife to have respect for the president, our commander-in-chief, no matter whether I agreed with him or not. The minority leader of the Senate announced that his only objective was to oust Obama. Such talk as that incites hatred.

Immigrants are taking your jobs? That is shallow thinking. Immigrants receive less than minimum wage. Corporations hire immigrants to make more profit. And there is, as yet, no law enacted by Congress to criminalize the hiring of illegal immigrants.

Many of your jobs have gone overseas. My brother-in-law worked his way to the top for a North Carolina business. He was excited when Vanity Fair bought the business, thinking working for a big corporation had advantages. Vanity Fair bought the business only to close it and move the jobs overseas. He finished out his working years folding towels made in China.

When I was young, the only safe place for homosexuals was in the closet. We didn't know them so we were in the dark. In the '80s, the AIDS crisis hit our country. It was mainly among gay men. Everyone was scared, including the medical profession.

My office at the Navy's Bureau of Medicine and Surgery was given the task of HIV testing analysis to ensure that the blood supply was HIV-free. It also forced gays out of the closet to face discharge from the military. They had nowhere to turn for comfort. They weren't welcome in the churches. There were no commitment vows, such as we take in marriage, for those who wished to have a lifetime commitment.

In the 1990s, Frank, a gay man, was the senior warden of our vestry in Virginia. His partner was in the choir. Frank had a Christmas tree farm, and Skip made wreaths each Christmas. They had a beautiful home, which was on the Garden Club's house tour. It was everyone's favorite. Love, hard work and talent were apparent.

My granddaughter realized she was a lesbian in her teens and was so distressed she thought of suicide. When she finally came out to the family, I was happy for her. She is now getting a doctorate.

I am thankful to Frank and others who prepared me so that my granddaughter didn't have to face family rejection, as many do. It validates my feelings that some churches now have homosexual clergy and commitment vows for same sex couples.

As for your wanting to carry concealed weapons, that just scares me.

Hilda Mitchell lives in Pinebluff.

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LSM 10 months, 1 week ago

"And there is, as yet, no law enacted by Congress to criminalize the hiring of illegal immigrants."

(Sec. 274A. [8 U.S.C. 1324a] ) http://www.justice.gov/eoir/OcahoMain/274a.pdf

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getreal 10 months ago

I would hazard a guess that some of those idiots who were overheard might be posting on this paper's site.

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Muggs 10 months ago

Being new to this forum made possible by the Pilot I have no voice in the subject matter as of yet,but will comment on the information provided by LSM,it was very informative and also abit of a surprise that so little of that law is actually enforced,or it is never publicized if it is.

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dustyrhoades 10 months ago

"If Jesus were here today, He wouldn't recognize his followers."

Oh, He'd recognize a lot of them. They're the modern equivalent of the scribes and Pharisees he railed against.

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Bentpan 10 months ago

I call horse hockey, talk about your stereotypes, This is BS, and Mrs. Mitchell, you should be ashamed, This is absolute crap and you know it.

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Thatcher 10 months ago

Seems to me that folks (conservative or liberal) should be very cautious about how Jesus would view any of our current political controversies, especially those which have allegedly taken place in the form of conversations in an eye clinic. To me, it is wrong, and it trivializes salvation. Cheers!

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Muggs 10 months ago

Think I might enjoy this outlet,noticed people pretty much say whats on their mind,guess I would have to say that there is a point to one is just overhearing, and another as to just going out of ones way to listen in, and then going to the point of placing the whole conversation in the pilot accompanied with a sermon on the mount,like I said new here but will soon get the hang of it,hope everyone has a great evening.

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Thatcher 10 months ago

Welcome Muggs! I suspect you will find intelligent folks on both sides of every issue here. There are, however, some folks here who merely call people names. You will learn their identity shortly from their posts. Again, welcome! And have fun!

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fugitiveguy 10 months ago

If you travel down Youngs Road in Southern Pines, you will occasionally find piles of the equivalent of this article on the roadway. Seriously, is anyone so gullible as to think this actually happened as written?

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The_AnonymusProfit 10 months ago

Welcome to the crazy house muggs.

Thatcher you are right that we should tread with caution, but we must ask ourselves this question in order to determine if we are truly following what has been taught. I think DR's comment hit it on the head, though im not sure if he actually believes in Christ.

Fugitive lmao.

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Thatcher 10 months ago

TAP-- I believe that neither I, you, nor DR knows whether DR "hit it on the head" with his comment about how Jesus would view this alleged issue. I agree that we should always ask ourselves the question, and ponder it seriously. But for anyone to claim that they have the answer is a place I'd rather not go. Cheers!

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native 10 months ago

Did I sign on to a chat room or what?

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CJ 10 months ago

Can't believe the PILOT would print such a "talebearing" story. One thing you must realize Ms. Mitchell is that you can only answer for yourself and no one else. You do what's right and they have to answer for what they do.

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Thatcher 10 months ago

CJ-- Great post!

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buskwon 10 months ago

@Hilda Mitchell , #1 Jerry Sandusky SHOULD be shot. #2 Illegal Immigrants ARE taking our jobs. #3 wanting to carry concealed weapons is an American RIGHT and should not scare you . #4 you turned to FACEBOOK, looking for uplifting entries , that should scare you.

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getreal 10 months ago

It is interesting that there seems to be some discussion (BP) that this incident could not have taken place. Why some would question the validity of this letter is a puzzling question. I have worked in the area with people who could have easily been those who were over heard. Like it or not there are some who harbor ill will and prejudice towards others not just in this area, but in the entire world for that matter. Those who believe differently or act differently, support politics opposite their choice, who differ from what this type of person considers "normal" or not what they themselves believe to be acceptable. The sad thing is they are the problem not those who they condemn. Maybe this letter should be an eye opener to the rest of us and a warning about the kind of hate and narrow mindedness that can be found where you least expect it, even right here on these posting sites.

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JD 10 months ago

CJ this is the Pilots specialty.

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fugitiveguy 10 months ago

"It is interesting that there seems to be some discussion (BP) that this incident could not have taken place."

The letter would have been more believable had the writer not attempted to pack so many leftist hot button issues into one letter. Seems like she felt the need to "touch them all". And what a coincidence that 4 people ended up in the same tiny waiting all just busting to rail on the various groups they supposedly "hate".

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geoffcutler 10 months ago

Scarier than being scared of our constitutional right to bear arms is the abject complacency of someone who doesn't understand the right, and why it is so important. Ms. Mitchell, would you live in less fear if only government bore arms?

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dustyrhoades 10 months ago

I've overheard conversations exactly like this in Food Lion, McDonald's, Bojangles...everything sucks, it's all the fault of the immigrants/liberals/homosexuals/Barack Obama, somebody just needs to take a gun and shoot the high profile defendant du jour, why do we even have trials for people like that...it's the Pilot's comment section in real time.

Face it, folks, there are a lot of ignorant, hateful people out there who fantasize out loud about violent solutions to whatever annoys them.

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geoffcutler 10 months ago

Any disturbing language from the left during the W. years? Probably not....

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Muggs 10 months ago

Is this what the normal is on this site or just a once in awhile type situation,just asking,seems to be like two women talking over the fence while they are hanging up laundry,not even news worthy to someone who has no interest in having someones conversation pasted all over the news,if is this sites intent I believe I made a mistake in joining in,hoped to see more on issues,not gossip,no intent of being disrespectful to anyone just wondering.

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teufelhunden 10 months ago

Were they watching Archie Bunker in the waiting room and the TV was a tad too loud?

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fugitiveguy 10 months ago

"I've overheard conversations exactly like this in Food Lion, McDonald's, Bojangles..."

Liberals must have the hearing abilities of dogs. Or either they just do a lot of eavesdropping. Or maybe this is just more of their magical thinking. Its funny, they never hear any "hate speech" regarding conservatives. I gave up when liberals changed the definition of hate speech to any criticism of President Obama which is so hypocritical given their treatment of President Bush.

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fugitiveguy 10 months ago

Muggs, I think you are pulling our legs. I think you are just a previous poster with a new name. In the event I am wrong may I reccomend the Aberdeen Times. Their forums may be more to your liking.

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The_AnonymusProfit 10 months ago

Im not really sure what the point of this letter is. Thatcher again i concede to your wisdom.

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Hembloche 10 months ago

geoffcutler 1 hour, 33 minutes ago Any disturbing language from the left during the W. years? Probably not....

Of course there was, and I don't think you'd get any liberals here who would deny it. Does it make it right for it to happen now? Of course not. It was wrong then and it is wrong now. One of the biggest problems for both Dems & Reps, is that they do absolutely awful things, then try to justify it by pointing fingers at the other party. That's completely childish. The whole "but he did it first" mentality is pathetic. Aren't we supposed to "grow up" as we get older? Not calling you out specifically Geoff, you just happened to be the most recent person to use that logic, hopefully in jest.

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Bentpan 10 months ago

Face it the whole letter reads like an infomercial for the DNC filled with stereotypes, misinformation, covering hatred of Immigrants (Not just illegals), Homosexuals, Romneys not quite right religion ( Mrs Mitchells third party mythical conversation inference, not mine), Ganglike attitude and of course GUNS, To be honest the only talking point she missed was something like "We're voting for Romney, at least he's white" Honestly the whole thing is nothing but a clumsey liberal propoganda piece. To paraphase ( as in singularise) Mr Rhoades Liar Liar, Pants on Fire.

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fugitiveguy 10 months ago

"Honestly the whole thing is nothing but a clumsey liberal propoganda piece."

I agree

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Muggs 10 months ago

fugitiveguy, No I am not what you have accused me of,I have always read this section but failed to join in,did not intend to make anyone irritated,my intent was to actually criticize those who found it to be news worthy,the originator of the story,it just sounded to me like gossip,I'll keep my opinions to myself,did not come on here to make enemies of anyone.

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fugitiveguy 10 months ago

"Is this what the normal is on this site or just a once in awhile type situation"

"I have always read this section"

Your statements seem to conflict. If you always read this section, why would you have to ask "what is normal on this site" No need to get offended or to cease commenting. I am fairly harmless and often friendly. This site does require a slightly thick skin at times.

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Jason 10 months ago

"... clumsey liberal propoganda..."? I can see the Mensa group is hanging out here! Why is this conversation so hard to imagine. I know folks who believe Obama created the housing bubble so that America will implode and Socialism will take over. Sadly, there is no shortage of dumb in this country.

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getreal 10 months ago

Thanks Jason, At least you recognize that the conversations in the letter are possible. Like I stated before, I have worked locally and have heard those type of comments and worse almost everyday.The fact that people refuse to believe it is a legitimate letter to the editor is like sticking your head in the sand. Considering what transpires right here on this site you would think the doubting Thomas's would have a grip on reality. They are guilty themselves of such opinions and I would bet maybe a few of them were there in person. Maybe this woman wanted to point out what hate and ignorance is put out there for all to hear. I would like her to defend herself on this site, but she probably has better things to do than answer to the few who are so arrogant and too busy looking for conspiracy theories that they refuse to believe what was said is rampant and commonly occurs in this area. Watch out those who doubt the validity of the information in the letter, someone is conspiring to get you!

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geoffcutler 10 months ago

Hilda's contribution is a column, not a letter. It's content is as Bentpan outlines in his posts.

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Jason 10 months ago

Yup, she would have to be a leftist radical to write such a letter. (Yes, that's sarcasm.)

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Muggs 10 months ago

fugitiveguy,The hide of an elephant so I should be able to fit right in,have a good one.

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AbdominalDohMan 10 months ago

Looks to me like Silence Dogood.

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AbdominalDohMan 10 months ago

Its a good thing that, as for now, we live in a country that allows us to speak our opinions freely without fear of scorn or retribution from those who preach tolerance except, of course, for those who hold contrary opinions to their own.

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teufelhunden 10 months ago

Homer-you got that right, especially around here...did you see DR's column and the comments??? SHAMEFUL

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Thatcher 10 months ago

I suppose it is entirely possible that the author of this column is using composite conversations, much in the same way that Obama (in "Dreams From My Father") referred in great detail to conversations with a composite girlfriend. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100155478/why-it-matters-that-obama-dated-a-composite-and-ate-a-dog/; http://news.investors.com/article/610436/201205041829/julia-obamas-newest-composite-girlfriend.htm?p=full. Stranger things have happened, right? Of course they have. Cheers!

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Bentpan 10 months ago

Jason 2 hours, 43 minutes ago Yup, she would have to be a leftist radical to write such a letter. (Yes, that's sarcasm.)

Yup, one would have to be a Mensa Liberal to believe such a letter.(Yes, that's sarcasm.) We all know there is no such animal.

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getreal 10 months ago

@geoffcutler, Typical response from a closed mind. Nit pick some minor error and ignore the rest of the post. My mistake, it was a column, happy? The rest of my post stands.

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Thatcher 10 months ago

Of course, logic dictates that the composite idea be taken to the next level: composite donors to Obama. Let's suppose you and your wife are about to have a party for your 25th wedding anniversity, or that little Johnny is having a birthday party or upcoming bar mitzvah. You should instruct your guests that in lieu of gifts for you and little Johnny, that your guests instead send in a contribution to the Obama campaign. This might appear distasteful, unless you want to take a look at your instructions at the Obama Event Registry: http://www.barackobama.com/obama-event-registry/. The term "classy" may require a new definition. Cheers!

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LSM 10 months ago

"Silence Dogood"... I had to put on the bifocals I just got from Carolina Eye Clinic, no they actually came from Walmart but I was writing in a composite manner, to make sure I really read that.

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CNMT 10 months ago

I think Muggs has the same punctuation problem a previous poster to this site had. He sentences seem to be separated by commas instead of periods!

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Jason 10 months ago

@Bedpan- I appreciate you getting your spelling correct this time and thank you for honoring me through emulation. On the negative side, no honest, intelligent person believes that all Mensa members lean right. Remember, your purity test is quite restrictive. And since a large number of studies have shown that the more highly educated are less likely to be religious it is hard to imagine the bible thumping segment would let them in!

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geoffcutler 10 months ago

"Considering what transpires right here on this site you would think the doubting Thomas's would have a grip on reality. They are guilty themselves of such opinions and I would bet maybe a few of them were there in person." getreal

So...this is what an open mind sounds like?

"Maybe this woman wanted to point out what hate and ignorance is put out there for all to hear. I would like her to defend herself on this site, but she probably has better things to do than answer to the few who are so arrogant and too busy looking for conspiracy theories that they refuse to believe what was said is rampant and commonly occurs in this area."

Doesn't sound very open-minded. Sounds more like unsubstantiated name-calling and denigration of those with whom you disagree.

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Thatcher 10 months ago

Jason-- I believe you may have misspelled Bentpan. Also, you brought up the Mensa issue earlier (5 hours, 51 min. ago). I've noticed alot of liberals here, in an attempt to slam conservatives, use the Mensa term to imply conservatives are stupid. To date, I've not seen a post where a liberal who mentions Mensa is actually a member of Mensa. Of course, this may be the explanation: http://www.mensa.org/. You can apply if you have scored in the top 2% on an IQ test. Ask yourself, who would apply for such a thing, or tell folks that they are in this club? Are these "top 2%" the same "top 1%" that you and Obama hate? If not, why not? Hey, just for fun, did you ever get an invitation to join this prestigious group? http://www.whoswhoamongstudents.com/. The same award for high school students was shut down due to bankruptcy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who's_Who_Among_American_High_School_Students. Give it some thought. Cheers!

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Thatcher 10 months ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who's_Who_Among_American_High_School_Students. Not sure why this link did not post.

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Thatcher 10 months ago

Ok, it did it again. If you want to see it, type the link. Cheers!

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cantstandya 10 months ago

Just how long are you all going to beat this dead horse?

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Thatcher 10 months ago

Perhaps you mean, "No sense killing a dead horse," as shown in this amazing documentary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgpWyB.... Too funny!

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Bentpan 10 months ago

Hello Jason or should I say Mr Rhoades, get yourself warned off ... again? Keep it up and they'll ban you but I'm guessing you can't help yourself.

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cantstandya 10 months ago

@Thatcher, Now that was funny.

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Thatcher 10 months ago

Thanks cantstandya. My wife and I did not use the Obama Event Registry for our wedding anniversary. We wanted to keep it low key, and simply film the special moments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_urt_c.... I love romance. Cheers!

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lakeview 10 months ago

The higher someone's education level the less religous they tend to be.

Really? I've never read that.

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AM910 10 months ago

This is a Republican county (minus Southern Pines since the last vote), so I can believe this actually happened. I'm shocked they didn't want to bomb Iran and get rid of the traffic circle.

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cantstandya 10 months ago

@Thatcher. Watched Naked Gun episodes several times, he also had a short run on a show called Police Squad I think was the name,always enjoyed all of them.Going to go get ready for the Frasier rerun,and Cheers back at ya.

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Thatcher 10 months ago

Love those shows, too, cantstandya. Good humor is good for the soul. Cheers!

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dustyrhoades 10 months ago

Hello Jason or should I say Mr Rhoades, get yourself warned off

So Bedpan claims yet another poster is me in disguise? How many are we up to now in this twisted little fantasy of his?

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Thatcher 10 months ago

I don't claim to be Sherlock Holmes, but perhaps Bentpan became suspicious when you both misspelled his name in the same disparaging way. Maybe that set off some alarms, which led to his post. You'll have to ask Bentpan. And Jason. Cheers!

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dustyrhoades 10 months ago

No, definitely not Sherlock Holmes. Not even Inspector Clouseau, if you give any credence at all to the latest "this person is another alias of dustyrhoades" nonsense.

News flash: a lot more people than me think Bentpan's a blithering idiot. And calling him Bedpan's a natural progression. It's not surprising that more than one person has come up with it, considering what he's so often full of.

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