General Assembly Overrides Veto on Fracking Bill

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The N.C. General assembly on Monday voted to override Gov. Bev Perdue's veto of legislation that would allow North Carolina to drill for natural gas through a controversial process known as fracking.

Late Monday night, the House overrode the veto by a razor-thin margin only after a Democratic lawmaker who said she pushed the wrong button in favor of the measure was not allowed to change her vote, according to The News & Observer of Raleigh. The Senate, earlier in the day, also voted to override the veto.

Perdue said in a statement Sunday announcing the veto that she did not think the legislation went far enough to protect the environment.

“I support energy policies that create jobs and lower costs for businesses and families,” Perdue said. “Our drinking water and the health and safety of North Carolina’s families are too important; we can’t put them in jeopardy by rushing to allow fracking without proper safeguards.

It would take a three-fifths majority in both the House and Senate to override the veto of Senate Bill 820. In the Senate, that would be 30 votes and in the House, at least 72 if all the members were present. Neither side had reached those numbers in approving the legislation.

House Speaker Thom Tillis and Senate leader Phil Berger, in a joint statement, called the veto a “flip-flop,” The News & Observer reported. They said the General Assembly incorporated many of the governor’s recommendations in crafting the legislation.

Environmental groups praised Perdue for vetoing the bill. Critics of the legislation said it does not allow enough time to develop rules and regulations to ensure families, communities and the environment will be protected from the risks associated with natural gas development.

State Rep. Jamie Boles, who represents most of Moore County, supported the legislation. He said last month that the General Assembly worked closely with the governor’s office to send her a bill with growing bipartisan support.

The bill gives the governor four appointees to a new Mining and Energy Commission. He pointed out that the governor had none in previous versions.

The General Assembly would have to approve all new regulations and standards before any drilling and fracking permits could be issued. That vote could at least be two years away.

The bill directs the commission and several state agencies to study the impacts and develop the regulations by October 2014.

Hydraulic fracturing, commonly known as “fracking,” is germane to northern Moore County, which lies atop the Deep River Basin, where state geologists initially believed a 40-year supply of natural gas exists.

But a recently released U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) assessment showed that the Deep River Basin has an amount of natural gas equivalent to 5.6 years of usage based on 2010 consumption rates in North Carolina.

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NotSoFast 10 months, 3 weeks ago

I dislike Bev beyond belief, but I have to give her thumbs up on this one.

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Arestorer 10 months, 3 weeks ago

One of the very few good things She's done..

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SH59 10 months, 3 weeks ago

The Gas companies need to be reined in and be made to take more responsibility for their mistakes and stop trying to hide the nastier side of their practices in the small print of their contracts.

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coffecreme 10 months, 3 weeks ago

She finally did something that took guts!

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OldSpook 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Well, there goes a whole bunch of easy money down the drain just because some people want clean drinking water and land that will produce vegatation. Well done Madam Governor, the correct answer to a tough choice. Thank you.

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dlb 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Hope for mild winters and wool blankets.

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teufelhunden 10 months, 3 weeks ago

I am so glad that she used some foresight regarding this matter. The health and safety of our people is paramount. Maybe she watched Erin Brockovich the night before? ;) Anyway good show Gov!

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alladat1 10 months, 3 weeks ago

NewspaperReader - My most trusted source for environmental issues is Popular Mechanics.

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Spocks_Brain 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Totally illogical-if you remember in 'Arena' Jim Kirk fought Gorn-and was able to utilize the resources that could be found on or near the surface of the planet, to defeat Gorn. Natural Gas is organic-think logically-but do it safely. Remember, Earth is a small rock 93 mm miles from the Sun and its cold out there! On another note and I hate to be emotional here, but this Governor you have here, needs to be put on a prison planet

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clarabelle 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Spocks_Brain - perhaps you should use another "alias" - perhaps Spocks_A$#"

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JD 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Pat McCory, the mayor of Charlotte, who at the same time was a paid advisor to Duke Energy. Go figure how that conflict was never tried in court. It will be a sad day in November if he takes the election...

We might end up like Lowellville Cemetery in Columbus, Ohio. Oil companies are now buying cemeteries to remove the dead and frack in their final resting place for the shale and gas deposits below.

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Arestorer 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Still cant beleive people love money more than life....

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OldSpook 10 months, 3 weeks ago

JD, Help me out here with that Cemetery thing. As I understand it, when we buy our plots, we are the legal owners of that piece of property and our relatives/appointees have oversight of our remains. If my family owns the plot, how can the oil company buy the cemetary (without my family/apointee approval) and relocate my remains? To me this seems like somebody selling my house out from under me and then expecting me to move without a fuss while they pocket the money. I'm not doubting you as I understand that gas companies own more people in Washington DC than any other lobby, but desecration of a grave (cemetary) seems a little low even for a lawyer to condone.

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clarabelle 10 months, 3 weeks ago

"Arestorer - Still cant beleive people love money more than life...."

well said!

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

A job well done Governor Perdue. Now House Representative Jamie Boles and Senator Jerry Tillman will have to spend some time in the "dark" to formulate a strategy to over-ride her veto. I know they are stomping around the legislative building whining because the gas goose who lays the golden egg, was vetoed.

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Arestorer 10 months, 3 weeks ago

As a 3rd generation Moore Co. native,I feel like Boles stoled from me. I know Im not the only one he represents,but I dont think most of the county wants this....

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NewspaperReader 10 months, 3 weeks ago

alladat1, at least I have a source for my information. I'm sure most people here got their beliefs on fracking from that goofy crocumentary, GasLand. I bet most of you still actually think that the water the guy set on fire lit up because of methane from fracking (hint: it wasn't fracking).

Oh well, just keep holding your breath for magic energy that doesn't impact the environment.

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Arestorer 10 months, 3 weeks ago

If the time and money thats been invested in tele-communication,had been invested in solar energy,we would all be off-grid for residential buildings...

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clarabelle 10 months, 3 weeks ago

China, Germany, and Japan are so far ahead of the US with regards to solar energy - I doubt the gap will ever be made up. Fossil fuel reliance will soon be taken over by these other technologies.

I am still amazed the US doesn't sponsor mass research in this area. Using the countries colleges would be relatively inexpensive.

And yes, - I am aware of Solyndra - an excellent read here. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/solyndra--explained/2012/06/01/gJQAig2g6U_blog.html

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coffecreme 10 months, 3 weeks ago

I think Boles knew what he was doing... voted for the fracking to appease his supporters knowing all along Perdue would veto it.

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getreal 10 months, 3 weeks ago

@Old Spook, Years ago in PA, they built a Mall, dug up an very old grave yard and moved the remains to another location! I couldn't believe it! No respect for the dead when there is a buck to made, come to think of it, no respect for the living either.

Anyway, WAY TO GO BEV! I was thrilled to see it on the news. Now let's see what happens next. Finally some common sense from an elected official. I wasn't a fan, but appreciate this veto, it took guts. Thanks!

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getreal 10 months, 3 weeks ago

@clarabelle, Because BIG OIL runs the country, that's why. The good old boys block every attempt at replacing oil and gas. You can thank the Repubs. for that. We had viable electric cars years ago, rent "What ever happened to the electric car" and watch it. We could be much further along in freedom from fossil fuels but the fat cats would lose their income. Go figure!

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NewspaperReader 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Getreal, "Who killed the electric car" (I assume that is what you mean) is yet another misleading crocumentary. The EV1, the subject of that movie, was killed by its own impracticality. It got 60-80 miles on a charge, took 15 hours to recharge fully, and was being leased for $300+ a month.

Anyway, this idea that an almighty evil oil empire is controlling everything is absurd. Electric cars were more popular in the early 20th century than those sporting internal combustion engines. The reason for their decline is the same reason that they still struggle today: they don't go very far on a single charge.

When electric vehicles are practical, just as with solar panels and wind power, the free market will lift them up. Unfortunately, you cannot legislate practicality. All that will be accomplished with government meddling and over-regulation is a reduction of economic growth, with a delay in the development of efficient technologies as a consequence.

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Thatcher 10 months, 3 weeks ago

NewspaperReader-- Great post!

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Newspaper Reader => check out links I provided on another blog on this subject. You and tarhillborn have a lot in common ~ an inability to read and understand information or can't search for information on the web:

Yes there are a lot of dumb people out here who oppose Fracking for obvious reasons, those reasons that are beyond your comprehension.

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

"Anyway, this idea that an almighty evil oil empire is controlling everything is absurd"

No your total lack of information is absurd. Electric cars have absolutely nothing to do with contaminating our underground aquifers, pollution of streams, air contamination, toxic spills and hazardous chemicals used in Fracking.

But then you are like Bowles and Tillman, could care less about our environment and water supplies for the future. Just lines those pockets....

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Pennsylvania opened a Pandora's box filled with irreversible environmental catastrophes. They may never recover from the ecological damage and financial losses.

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Shale gas, Butler County PA. A picture is worth a thousand words.

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NewspaperReader 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Toda, nothing you said to me is relevant in any way to my post. If you are going to assert that I am incapable of reading and understanding information, perhaps you could be kind enough to address the point which you find questionable, and refute it.

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Spocks_Brain 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Frack you! I bet the gays are against fracking too!!! If you were in the oil and gas business as I am , you could comment on this. Other than that, all you do is read something and make a conclusion....idiots...illogical

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Spocks_Brain 10 months, 3 weeks ago

I bet DR is a 'Green'-well here is something really illogical-the US Navy is paying 26 a gallon for biofuel...yep...its pretty much proof that Obama could care less if anything makes financial sense... so, Obama or Romney?? Only DR could be for something like this..can you imagine if we had to pay exorbitant sums for our dilithium crystals???

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getreal 10 months, 3 weeks ago

@NewspaperReader, Yes, you are correct, I realized my mistake in the title too late, too many posts came afterward to correct it. My bad! I still think big oil is running this country. The EV1 was scraped, yes, because it was impractical, but the technology was also scraped and not improved upon. Who had the most to lose? The oil companies. Our dependance on oil is one of our country's biggest weaknesses. I hope in time we will be freed of our dependency on fossil fuels. I can dream can't I?

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getreal 10 months, 3 weeks ago

@Spocks_Brain, are sure your moniker isn't Rocks for Brains? You are in it for the money,this is your business, you can't ignore the the problems in Pa and elsewhere. Just because you are in the oil and gas business doesn't impress me. Your gay comment says it all. If that is the type of mind set in the oil business, no wonder there is so much controversy. Believe it or not it is possible to read facts and come to a logical conclusion. That conclusion is that fracking is bad, and so are you.

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Spocks_Brain 10 months, 3 weeks ago

You guys are going to end up in the concentration camp of Pol Pot Obama....and chubbette Lisa Jackson...good lets let the blacks be in charge of all decisions...they were against fracking til they were cornered...

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getreal 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Wow, S_B you are one nasty individual! Perfect for the oil industry. Just remember, you can't drink dollars. All though you might be using yours to buy alcohol from your posts.

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getreal 10 months, 3 weeks ago

@NewspaperReader, I went to your link, it was very interesting, had some good information, but it didn't give an all clear to all aspects of the process. I didn't see any information addressing the unique problems facing fracking in the sand hills and elsewhere in NC. Different strata and less shale from what I have read. Much more vulnerable than what is encountered in Pa. There will be different problems to solve to get at the measly 5 1/2 years worth of natural gas here.

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Spocks_Brain 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Go Green-no fracking, no coal, 26 dollars per gallon for biofuel , lmao...sure glad Im up here onthe Enterprise, and can see your illogical thinking

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dlb 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Just how large is the organization?

Progressives Against Progress

No Dues ever!!!!

Just have an opinion.

No facts just an opinion.

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Newspaper Reader => "almighty evil oil empire"

where did this come from? Note that nothing in the blog or discussion board made such an innuendo.

Electric cars have absolutely nothing to do with shell gas or Fracturing. It appears that your lack of knowledge of 1930's battery company efforts to implement the use of acid reaction batteries to power cars and trucks was not a viable technology at the time.

"The 60s and 70s saw a need for alternative-fueled vehicles to reduce the problems of exhaust emissions from internal combustion engines and to reduce the dependency on imported foreign crude oil. Many attempts to produce practical electric vehicles occurred during the years from 1960 and beyond."

Here's your CARD

A 40 years supply of natural gas in the absence of a n-gas vehicle isn't prospective thinking since at present there are no natural gas or LP gas vehicles being [mass] marketed in today's market. There are municipalities with LP gas conversion diesel engines like in Chapel Hill used in buses.

Try sticking to a topic as opposed to wandering around Wikipedia for an adjunct to a DB.

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Arestorer 10 months, 3 weeks ago

This can still be stopped, if the land owners tell the Oil companies to"Pound sand".....And "Get off of my property"..In my opinion,anyone that sells their mineral rights,should be forced out of NC to go live in PA...This is the most beautiful State in America.....PLEASE EVERYONE, SAVE IT !!

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Governor Perdues veto was overridden by one vote...a democrat who claims her vote was an error. What an error!

We shouldn't forget that like local politics, the voice of the people have once again been silenced by a few voting for the many. Years down the road, politicians in waiting will say, "we cannot defend what the legislature did back then, we have to figure out a way to clean the mess up".

Another done deal like the jail....

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Arestorer 10 months, 3 weeks ago

I believe Jamie needs a trip to the wood-shed...And Tilman,,,He doesnt even care enough about Moore county to come back and get his trash (political signs) off the sides of our roads...

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

What has changed since this 2003 Pilot article by the late Clark Cox.

Questionable Fracking in the Sandhills

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Arestorer => as voters we have to be mindful that Tillman won 67% of the vote in the primary, and received an endorsement by The Pilot.

We can rest assured that with so many endorsements and votes, Tillman was representing the interests of his constituents with his position on Fracking.

Sadly Representative Boles follows the wolves by offering more time to study the effects, and votes in the affirmative to support the Jobs Legislation.

Anyone for bottled water from Pennsylvania?

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

In contrast to a link provided by Newspaper Reader [thanks for a link] in a Popular Mechanics article, some of the myths can be refuted by the State of Pennsylvania where Fracking has become an environmental nightmare:

Here's Your Card

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Moore County in the next decade will have a similar landscape; thanks to Tillman and Boles!

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cooldaddy 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Logically, if one is to be taken serious here, grammer is important. No need to be perfect, but Spocks Nads needs English 101. I am not taking away from your right to say extremely stupid things. No sir...carry on.

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Here's your image...maybe not ... The Pilot uploads isn't working today.

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Thank you Jerry Wayne Tillman and Jamie Boles...rise in body count no less.

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Moore County in the not too distant future.

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JD 10 months, 3 weeks ago

2 things.

  1. the Pilot rolled over comments from a previous article. Way to go the Pilot.

2.State Rep. Jamie Boles, who represents most of Moore County, supported the legislation. Yay the Undertaker is trying to drum up more business by poisoning us all. Just great.

I knew the Pilot was a biased rag of a paper. But could you try and make it less obvious?

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cooldaddy 10 months, 3 weeks ago

JD...I still think Pat Mc. will be better than any democrat . Especially this outgoing disaster. I agree she finally did something correct. As for the lawyer comment, it is tough to find honesty and greedlessness there. Someone wrote recently..."the difference between a bad lawyer and a rooster?" ...A rooster clucks defiance.

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bigD 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Natural gas prices are so low right now that producsers have all but stopped current drilling.

Look at some recent stock analyst quotes about Devon and Chesapeake

"North American natural gas fundamentals are likely to remain poor for an extended period of time..."

"We expect Devon to continue reining in drilling activity...."

The sky is not falling and there will not be drilling rigs in your back yard next week so take a chill pill and try getting a little more informed before spreading mis-information people!

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JD 10 months, 3 weeks ago

@Spook To me this seems like somebody selling my house out from under me and then expecting me to move without a fuss while they pocket the money. Imminent domain comes to mind on that comment or robo-signing banks.

Research the town name. A fracking company bought the cemetery from the town. They only had to relocate the remains for purchasing the land. Might be a PA difference in law. Also looks like getreal has a story too about it.

@ cooldaddy

As for the lawyer comment, what lawyer comment? I made fun of Rep. Undertaker trying to line his pockets with his neighbors suffering. And if you think Pat is here to help. It's not you he is interested in. Just look at who gave him contributions not only as Charlotte mayor but now as a gubernatorial candidate.

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Pat Mc was bought and paid for the last time he ran against Bev. It's sort of like that song by Robert Palmer ~ "Simply Irresistible"...Corporate incentive money from lobbyists, law firms, energy companies, is too much to resist!

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Watch The Pilot take it down...

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NewspaperReader 10 months, 3 weeks ago

For those of you envisioning evil, heartless, earth hating oil companies rolling in and poisoning us all, it might help ease your minds if you read the bill. For example, if any contaminated water is discovered within a mile of a wellhead, it is incumbent upon the gas company to prove that it was not contaminated by their activities. If they cannot, they are responsible for all damages and must provide an adequate water supply to those affected.

Republicans have to breathe the same air and drink the same water as the rest of us.

http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2011/Bills/Senate/PDF/S820v6.pdf

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clarabelle 10 months, 3 weeks ago

"Republicans have to breathe the same air and drink the same water as the rest of us."

Are these the same republicans who discount evolution, don't believe the earth is warming due to pollution, etc?

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Just some facts about Fracking going on in Pa: Frack Target: Marcellus Shale Water Resources at Stake: Delaware River, Monongahela River, Susquehanna River Gas drilling in Pennsylvania has skyrocketed in recent years. And along with the gas rush have come disastrous industrial accidents and poisoned drinking water - earning the state a reputation in the region for gas development gone wrong. Communities fighting to keep their water and air clean and state forests intact have their work cut out for them: Governor Tom Corbett accepted nearly $1 million from oil and gas companies during his political campaigns and since assuming office in 2011, promptly began repaying his benefactors by cutting down on environmental enforcement and oversight of gas drilling activities. Below is a map of some of the high profile incidents ("fraccidents") related to the country's gas drilling boom that have already occurred in and around Pennsylvania. Hers' your link: http://earthjustice.org/features/campaigns/pennsylvania-and-fracking Upvote0

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

"Indus­try says the process is safe and does not pol­lute drink­ing water sup­plies. But a grow­ing move­ment of envi­ron­men­tal­ists, sci­en­tists and res­i­dents worry that the chem­i­cals used in the frack­ing process will leak into aquifers. Waste­water from the process returns to the sur­face con­t­a­m­i­nated with some of those chem­i­cals, as well as buried salts and nat­u­rally occur­ring radioac­tive mate­r­ial. That waste­water needs to be treated, or buried in con­tain­ment wells." Here's your link:http://stateimpact.npr.org/pennsylvania/tag/fracking/ Upvote0

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getreal 10 months, 3 weeks ago

NewspaperReader, What good is closing the door after the horse gets out? That clause is useless. If they contaminate the ground water, they can't clean it up! What are they going to do, run lines from other drinking sources? What if there isn't any other water sources? The people are SOL! Look what happened in Pa! I can't believe the veto was over ridden, oh wait yes I can, money doesn't talk it screams. If this fracking comes to fruition and ground water is contaminated, I think the public should band together and drag everyone involved in the passing of this bill into court to face a class action suit! Do you hear that Tillman, do you hear that Boles? The people are mad as hel* and they are not going to take it anymore! Tillman won on the coat tails of his wonderfully embarrassing Amendment 1. Typical politician, give the people something to fight over while they make off with the catch. He knew exactly what he was doing. The Democrat who voted by mistake? Maybe her election was by mistake, take away her job, pull out of office. We put her there, we can take her out! I want to know her name, I want everyone in this state to write her letters and email her until she wants to hide under a bed! What a useless fool. She failed at her job, she should be removed. This state has enough problems it doesn't need this on top of everything else. What a mess this is and we are powerless to correct this impending disaster.

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

In May 2009, the Pennsylvania DEP ordered Range Resources and Chief Oil & Gas to suspend operations at two sites in Lycoming County for violating PA's Clean Stream Law. The companies were withdrawing water from Hoagland Run and First Fork Larry’s Creek without having obtained the required permits (DEP "DEP Orders Partial Shutdown" [5/30/09]).

In June 2009 a leaking waste water pipe from a Range Resources gas well polluted a tributary of Cross Creek Lake in Washington Country, PA. The spill killed fish, salamanders, crayfish, and aquatic insects (Pittsburgh Post Gazette "Waste from Marcellus" [6/05/09]).

"* On April 16, 2010, the Pennsylvania Dept. of Transportation revoked Chesapeake Energy's road use permit for Route 1007 in Bradford County. Chesapeake failed to respond to two notices of unsafe conditions and thus violated their agreement to proactively monitor conditions and repair the road when needed. In March, PennDOT revoked their permit for Route 1001 for the same reasons (LH Express, "PennDOT Revokes" [4/16/10]" Here's your link: http://www.gdacoalition.org/GDAC_ROADS_SAFETY.html

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

One can't help but wonder if Legislators in Pa were hoodwinked or drank cool-aide before their vote to support Fracking?

Moore County has had it's share of toxic contamination to last for a lifetime. Millions to clean up the pesticide Malathion a known carcinogen with come reminiscent of contamination still in areas around the Pit Golf Course.

Obviously some posting threads haven't lived here long enough to remember the spills and dump sites and the problems that can have a devastating effect on our water resources. Read the article by Clark Cox written in 2003 about the Middendorf Aquifer. Once the aquifer is contaminated, there will no longer be a water resource for Poorer County.

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

" the public should band together and drag everyone involved in the passing of this bill into court to face a class action suit! Do you hear that Tillman, do you hear that Boles? The people are mad as hel* and they are not going to take it anymore!"

I couldn't have said it any better...I'm in your corner.

While campaigning at various functions with Tillman, he didn't mince words when it came to his position on Fracking. When I spoke at the Republican Tea Party function in Asheboro, I was perhaps the only one in the room who was not in favor of Fracking.

People sometimes get what they vote for and in the case of Tillman, you get a bit more than expected. Read some of the bills he votes on....

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NewspaperReader 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Getreal, should ground water become contaminated, the offending company would have to provide tanks of clean water to anyone who was using the water when the fracking operation began, as well as monetary compensation.

My only point is that the bill doesn't give the green light for gas companies to just start drilling willy nilly and poisoning water all over the place.

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Thatcher 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Toda, you should run against Mr.Tillman so that the voters can decide.

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JD 10 months, 3 weeks ago

@Thatcher

At least Toda has some passion for his state and what happens in it. Fracking has the potential to be a historical environmental mistake. You can keep being snide though. Cheers for your true colors showing yet again!

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Bflat 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Elected officials buy their way into office. Witness the huge amount of money spent. People line up like sheep and mindlessly vote in the same ole politicians that are destroying our State. I cannot believe that these politicians don't care what happens now after seeing what happened in PA and other places. When groundwater is contaminated from fracking, as it is in other areas, just remember that there can be no life without water.

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Thatcher 10 months, 3 weeks ago

JD-- I don't do "snide." I suggested that Toda run against Tillman so that voters can decide. And your problem with that is what? And what are my true colors? Please let me know.

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getreal 10 months, 3 weeks ago

@NewspaperReader, How wonderful, if the aquifer in my town is poisoned by fracking the offending company will appease the residents by some compensation and replace the drinking water with tanks of water. Now that really makes me feel so much better! Are you serious?! Who wants trucked in water for the entire time they live in their home? Yes, I can see it now, house for sale, water supplied by tanks of trucked in water. As if the real-estate market around here couldn't get any worse. The facts are that fracking has had a questionable history of safety and we don't want it here! I don't care what the Republicans want to shove down our throats for their own personal gain and campaign donation promises, it is a very bad idea with limited possibility of return. There will be protests and confrontation I can guarantee you that! I can only hope the voters out there will be smart enough to put party affiliation aside and get rid of every politician connected to this bill. They are not serving their constituents, they are serving themselves. Time to get rid of them! Bye, bye Boles, bye, bye Tillman and the rest of your cronies. The public doesn't want fracking and they don't want you!

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GJohn 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Can you fracking believe this??? Does anyone want to go march on Raleigh with me? Would it do any good? What next steps should we take?

If Pat McCrory goes in - and he probably will - the gas companies will have a free ticket to destroy NC! Help!

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smoochielarue 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Shame on Boles! He should never have gotten into politics.

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smoochielarue 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Well getreal it's too late as Boles is running unopposed I believe or maybe that was the primary. Curious too is how the legislature put a civil rights matter to the public vote but not this fracking.

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Thatcher 13 hours, 26 minutes ago Toda, you should run against Mr.Tillman so that the voters can decide.

Thatcher thank you for your thoughts...I did run for the seat and lost. The people voted on his platform of Fracking as well as an array of other target points based on his voting record.

I garnered 12 % of the overall vote in two counties with less than $300.00 of my own money. I vowed not to take PAC money from CIVITAS or Washington Political Groups like Tillman. It seems to me that people like to "shout out" once legislation doesn't go their way - in this case Fracking.

Tillman is in bed with the large Insurance companies and rate fixing in my opinion, along with pharmaceutical companies, and hospital across the state. Wonder why medical costs are rising faster than wages or income?

I will run in two years against him or whomever runs for District 29 seat. I call it like I see it and 12% of those who voted for me, likes that approach to being honest in actions and opinions.

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Thatcher 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Toda-- While I disagree with many of your views, I am 100% with you in your support of the Fair Tax. And I tip my hat to anyone who, because of passion, decides to enter the arena and run for public office.

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Toda 10 months, 3 weeks ago

Thatcher coming from you, I consider your comment to be a compliment. I enjoy civil discussion on viewpoints and weigh the plus's and minus's to come to some reason for justifying ones beliefs on any topic. I'm always open for discussion by telephone or in person. Thanks again for your thoughts and I have put my campaign treasurer on notice that we will begin early to start raising funds for the next primary. Tommy Davis

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