Compromise Reached in Veterans' Memorial Issue
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A volatile discussion between board members and veterans followed by an attempt at compromise has resulted in a plan to further study a veterans' memorial issue in Carthage.
Veterans and their supporters bearing signs and American flags attended a bi-monthly meeting of the county commissioners for the second straight month to protest the possible sale of county land to the Bojangles corporation that is located near a war memorial. Opponents believe that a fast food restaurant in close proximity to the area would be a detriment to what many consider "hallowed ground" for its monuments bearing the names of county veterans who served and died for their country.
The manner in which commissioners considered a land sale is also a contentious subject among the veterans and others. Recordings of closed session minutes, released to the public following a request from The Pilot, indicated that the board discussed the Bojangles’ sale three times in closed session meetings, at least twice against the advice of its attorney. The state’s public meetings law allows governmental boards to meet in closed session to discuss buying land, but the discussion of selling property is illegal.
Charles Spelman, president of the Moore County-based Vietnam Veterans Chapter 966, presented a brief slide show containing three aerial maps that he said proved the county was "set" on selling a 1.3 acre parcel to Bojangles.
"The first map has the land divided into three parcels marked 'A', 'B' and 'C' between Hardee's and the memorial, while the second map is skewed and adjusts the parcels a bit at a slightly different angle," Spelman said. "Now here is the third map, with a bird's eye illustration of a Bojangles fitting like a glove into the parcel nearest to the Hardee's, and with what appears to be a road behind it leading right up to the memorial. My question is that I would love to know what is going on. The last thing we need is a restaurant or a commercial property going here."
Commissioner Craig Kennedy asked who commissioned the maps and who superimposed a Bojangles onto the property site.
"Believe me, it wasn't us," Spelman said.
County Manager Cary McSwain said the Bojangles illustration was "a prototypical map" to give viewers an idea of what the Bojangles company wanted in relation to a later survey.
Raymond Doby, chairman of the Moore County Veterans Memorial Committee, read a resolution that requested the board of commissioners to consider designating the property as open space or for office building use only, and that the property be "granted in perpetuity" to the veterans' committee "for their future needs." The resolution was a rewrite of a document titled the "Proposed Use Plan" for the area that was rejected by the board during the July 17, 2012 meeting.
Commissioners' Chairman Larry Caddell, apparently stung by accusations that he and other board members were being less than truthful in regard to the land sale discussions, suggested that selected county commissioners and veterans form a committee to study the issue.
"I've been respectful all along," Caddell said. "I'm a vet, too. The only way I'd vote on (the resolution) is if it read 'open space' period. If you want open space, say that, and then you won't have to fight against having a large office building there in the future."
Commissioner Jimmy Melton said his "number one goal" was to "make the memorial an icon of the county."
"Right now all I see is a bunch of lines on a map, but what I'd like to see is the memorial board and the county working together. Come up with a realistic boundary, and we'll see what it looks like. We need to come together in a professional way."
Commissioner Craig Kennedy agreed. "Communication is everything," he said, "and we've not had any. I know we've had harsh words, but in my heart I know we would've done nothing wrong. We have the county's best interests at heart, and we can work this out."
Commissioner Tim Lea then proposed a motion to remove the language from the resolution that said "office space" per Caddell's wishes and vote on it then. Commissioner Nick Picerno seconded Lea's motion.
"We have the option to take action tonight to protect the memorial," Lea said. "Let's go ahead and approve the motion that's on the table."
That motion was defeated 2-3 with Melton, Caddell and Kennedy voting against.
"I think there's a better deal for the veterans, a better way to protect the memorial,"
Caddell said.
Melton then proposed another motion, saying that the county "is willing to work with veterans and get it done right" via a committee.
"I'd like to make another motion that the commissioners, county staff and veterans get together on something we can all be proud of, and not arguing," he said.
The motion to form a committee passed 4-1 with Lea dissenting.
Picerno then asked that another motion be made containing language that the county manager be instructed "not to negotiate or to extend offers" to any party regarding the property adjacent to the memorial "until the committee has done its work" regarding the future of the property. That motion passed unanimously.
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Bflat 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Caddell, Kennedy & Melton have once again denied the Veterans by way of "Bait & Switch" tactics. They effectively stalled everything to whatever "study" and committee nonsense, Mr Lea is the only one with the best interests at heart to protect the Memorial and he tried to get a resolution passed. Picerno is just a sitting duck to make it appear he's on someone's side.La de dah. Melton going to make the Memorial the icon of the County is just doublespeak. Caddell, Picerno and Melton have made the monstrosity federal sized JAIL the icon of the County in Carthage.
Stalling any action on protecting the Memorial was probably planned ahead of time just like those illegal closed door meetings when the sale of the land to Bojangle's was discussed. Do certain Commissioners really think the citizens, taxpayers, voters and Veteran's will put up with continued arrogance?. That Picerno would suggest no offers be extended until the "committee" has finished it work certainly leaves it open to future offers. This indicates what is yet to come.
Toda 9 months, 2 weeks ago
"The manner in which commissioners considered a land sale is also a contentious subject among the veterans and others." Who said they could sell taxpayer property? It's not about Bojangles but property belonging to the public and taxpayers who own the land.
Thedarkknight 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Bflat you have to be a on cannibus or something, Picerno, Caddell, Melton, and Kennedy are interested in a patient process that benefits the county and the veterans, while Lea is only interested in taking his parting shots. Picerno has consistently said that we should wait till the study comes back before we engage in any rheotic for or against the sale of the property. That is a measured and steady approach. Lea and his cronies in the drive by media and on this blog are only interested in dissension and division not for the sake of an issue but for the sake of being difficult because they have a vendetta against others on the board. Pathetic.
Thedarkknight 9 months, 2 weeks ago
You know Toda you have a sick obession with Caddell. You got a crush on him or something.
RmeMP 9 months, 2 weeks ago
@ the dark knight -
Is that why this land sale was discussed behind closed doors several times, ILLEGALLY, against the advise of legal representation?!?!
Explain that one...
cooldaddy 9 months, 2 weeks ago
he really is obsessed. Aberdeen here just had a great headline story and he was sorry enough not to comment." Aberdeen Youngster Raises Money for Animal Group" Also Aberdeen Raises water and sewer rates...Where are you local super hero? Are we not enough in Aberdeen for you to care about? This is why you are a joke in the county and this is why you carry no clout.
Toda 9 months, 2 weeks ago
"Picerno has consistently said that we should wait till the study comes back before we engage in any rheotic for or against the sale of the property."
RmeMP posed a question ... newbie ... justify the rhetoric coming from the Dynamic Debt Duo C&P about violations of State Law? It's referred to as the Sunshine Law ... ever heard of it?
Toda 9 months, 2 weeks ago
cooldaddy => Good Lord, learn proper grammar before adding your two cents. You make absolutely no sense what so ever. Note: I have been down this path before with less educated posters who never take the high road in a discussion. Your stuck in a ditch somewhere in loony land, since I'm not a taxpayer in Aberdeen, I don't give a rodents rectum what the board does in Aberdeen.
Bflat 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Get ready for the "behind closed doors" Bojangles and county land sold compliments of TPo4 (Caddell, Picerno, Melton and Kennedy.) I bet it is a done deal already. A "Study/Report" and committee is nothing but stalling for time hoping the whole thing will go away. TPo4 will go ahead with anything they want to do while violating the law. That they would not pass a resolution to protect the Veteran's Memorial reeks of arrogance toward the Veteran's Group and speaks volumes to the citizens, taxpayers and voters of Moore County. The "Behind Closed Doors" commissioners that want to sell County land violated the law. They should resign.
Toda 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Ditto ~ Bflat!
koppenhofer 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Diito indeed~!
cantstandya 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Disappointed in the manner this has been handled, yet being a Vietnam veteran myself I think that some compromise should be on the table that would satisfy both parties. The original problems stems from that land on which the monument stands was evidently never dedicated as sacrad ground and the perimeters of using it never discussed. Not knowing all the information I cannot form an opinion as to who is at fault, but this seems to have become a matter of who will give in first. I would doubt any of those who are named on the memorial really have a preference as to where it is located, only that that the surroundings be a peaceful and comfortable area for those that come to pay their respects.
cantstandya 9 months, 2 weeks ago
"sacred ground", My poor spelling, don't feel any reprimand is required.
babiehop 9 months, 2 weeks ago
How can the board "come together in a professional way." when they themselves do not handle things in a legal manner much less a professional manner ? What a joke to make such a statement. To say that "Communication is everything, and we've not had any." when there have already been ILLEGAL discussions is also a joke. And the audacity it takes to say "I know we've had harsh words, but in my heart I know we would've done nothing wrong" when they have already ILLEGALLY had discussions only proves that they think themselves above the law and have no regard for what is right. I would also like to see a committee formed - one that investigates the ILLEGAL activities of these officials and takes action to penalize them for their scoff-law arrogance.
koppenhofer 9 months, 2 weeks ago
News 14 Carolina covered it. www.triangle.news14.com, TOP STORIES
isthisamerica 9 months, 2 weeks ago
A committee? Nice little afterthought. It seems like it would be a waste of time and tax payers dollars. Keep the open space. Im sure any building that locates there will have watershed issues and would need a special permit to exceed the impervious surface amount allocated to that site. Looks like people are trying to cover their tails. Do the due process first then execute. Let's not drag this out like the jail.
Bflat 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Just go to www.news14.com and see the video and article. The above link doesn't seem to work.
cooldaddy 9 months, 2 weeks ago
When you started blogging some 2 million blogs ago t o d a, the bar was set low by you. You have slandered and done nothing but fuss,with nothing positive to say. You never raised the bar so don't worry about grammer. We don't have the time you do to camp in front of your screen. Like I said,you didn"t even comment on a girl giving time and money to help animals, but you find every excuse to go after the county. You have no respect from anyone online, so maybe take up needlepoint. Same old song.
Bflat 9 months, 2 weeks ago
The truth is really hard for some people to understand about protecting the Veteran's Memorial and Commissioners illegally discussed the potential sale of "County Owned Land" to a commercial enterprise. The truth is that certain commissioners illegally went behind closed doors discussing the sale. TPo4 (Caddell, sitting duck Picerno, Melton and Kennedy) know full well they have done wrong. They are an embarrassment to all who served and they have now spit on the Vet's Group. Those commissioners are a true disgrace to the Veterans and people of Moore County by not doing the right thing to protect the Veteran's Memorial right away but choose to delay it further.
Thedarkknight 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Toda get over yourself. You have a vendetta against Caddell and Picerno for some reason, and you apparently have too much time so you sit and spew your hatred and the rest of us have to wade through it. Again Picerno has been consistent that we should slow down and wait for a decision on the property till we get that report back. Again why the hatred of Caddell? You keep this up and he might need a restraining order against you.
Thedarkknight 9 months, 2 weeks ago
@cooldaddy- Well said. Toda apparently hails from aberdeen but spends his time sticking written barbs in his mental voodoo doll of Caddell. Maybe he should move to Carthage:)
Thedarkknight 9 months, 2 weeks ago
And don't forget that Tim Lea brought it up in the closed session. So if there was any illegality it started with Tim Lea. There isn't any illegality but you wizards of smart don't have common sense so I gotta spell it out for you.
RmeMP 9 months, 2 weeks ago
@dark knight:
Please help me understand your point of view. Follow mine first though - the law states that it is illegal to talk about selling land behind closed doors, which they did; then their legal counsel advised them to stop, which they didn't; what part of those two facts do you think are incorrect? Why is it not simple for you to see that law, apparently, was broken? Why are you defending these men?
Unless you work for them, are one of them, or are related to one of them.
JD 9 months, 2 weeks ago
@ thedorkknight
Are you getting paid to post? You are lobbying hard for the Carthage crew. You should change your name to CaddellandPincernoWhiteKnight.
Toda 9 months, 2 weeks ago
"You keep this up and he might need a restraining order against you."
Obviously you work for Southern Software, Inc or related by marriage. You still haven't answered RmeMP or Bflats question regarding the Sunshine Law violation! Shall I provide you a link?
Toda 9 months, 2 weeks ago
"You have no respect from anyone online, so maybe take up needlepoint. Same old song."
I'm so glad to know that you are gauging the number of people on blogs who have no respect for me! What's the total ~ you have captured my interest cooldud! I'm sure you have names and telephone numbers ....
Toda 9 months, 2 weeks ago
"And don't forget that Tim Lea brought it up in the closed session"
Spew all the nonsense you want, the outcome is still the same! by Tommy Davis
cooldaddy 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Look Totally Oblivious Dumb A. Flat Liar is just that. You have listened to the tapes and you know it was Tim Lea who started it all. You also know you are just as much of a slime ball liar for not correcting her. You have no credibility. Start with the truth. Tim Lea started the conversation in closed session. That's the truth. Liars.
CCarcol 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Lets hope this does not come out as 3 or more votes in favor of Bojangles. All Veterans must remain Vigilant. I do not trust the County Board now after their illegal activity when advised not to do so.
cantstandya 9 months, 2 weeks ago
What happened to all that civil conversation that was going to take place, no more name calling, or condescending remarks, gotta admit without all that going on this site is abit boring, this is nothing just wait till illegals and SSM hits the boards again.
tarheelborn 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Not to worry folks. Moore County elected officials (TPO3) are soon to see their power and control QUICKLY (Once the process starts) stripped from them..... Here com da Judge, HERE COM DA DA DA DA JUDGE! At present, they really could care less. The wheels of justice turn SLOWLY, but are CRUSHING! They soon, will to be ShAkInG iN tHeIr sHoEs...........
Thedarkknight 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Again, I love how all you Tim Lea siccophants ignore the fact that if you review the minutes he brings up the land first. So follow your own logic. If something illegal happened then Tim Lea is the one who instigated it all by that logic. Again nothing illegal happened but some of you wizards of smart can't seem to understand that. BFlat and Toad, oops I mean toda......no actually toad is better, are obsessed with negativity and are miserable if they aren't spewing their hatred. We're all wise to your act, it doesn't work. @tarheelborn- are you off your meds again. Borrow some from Toad.
Thedarkknight 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Tim Lea has flip flopped on issue after issue. He was for a tax increase in 2008 then he was against it when it came time to vote, he says he's fiscally responsible yet he wanted to build a jail that was bigger, closer to the residents of Sunset Drive, and that was more expensive, he says that he is a conservative yet his tenure as planning board chairman was one of the most expansive in terms of regulations and red tape. He says that he is a man of character, yet when he was chairman of the planning board he steered contracts for cell phone towers to members of his own family. According to various sources he was involved in a violent brawl with his son, back in 2008. Tim Lea is leaving and is doing everything he can to cause trouble and be vindictive. Toad, heel, and flat are obsessed with trying to carry out their own personal issues on elected officials who don't bow to their every ill conceived wim or liberal idea. Pathetic.
Arestorer 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Thedarkknight; Some of the posters on this site, were born here, and grew up with the Commisioners being discussed in this story...We feel like we have every right to criticize them for their actions...And a large amount of locals feel like they are not serving the best intrest of the county..Maybe we dont have as much of a problem with TPO3, as you have with Mr. Lea...Ive seen the politics of Moore county,and am here to tell you,Its as bad now as its ever been...Voters need to know whats going on in Carthage !! They dont all have their heads in the sand..
Thedarkknight 9 months, 2 weeks ago
I don't have a problem with folks who disagree with any of the commissioners based on the issues. But what is on this site most of the time are folks who would bad mouth Larry Caddell even if he gave everything to charity and went to work as a mission worker on the streets of Calcutta. And same for Nick Picerno. These are folks aren't interested in the truth, just spewing their vitriole The facts are that government has shrunk over the last four years in Moore County in terms of general fund expenditures. By over 17 million dollars. Taxes have been reduced by 1.9 cents and education has been funded fully by the county and public safety has actually added postions. The county has paid down debt over the last four years, and all of this has been done during the worst economic scene since the great depression. So I don't know where you have been Arestorer but it's not Moore County because things are going pretty good.
Toda 9 months, 2 weeks ago
So you say ... sounds just like Joe Garrison. Watch for my next blog with facts and figures as opposed to twaddle from you. Bye Larry, have a safe trip to Calcutta.
Thedarkknight 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Toad let me get this straight. You failed at running for office. You had a mental breakdown and your poor wife called the cops in fear, you then lie about our Moore County Sherriff's department even in the face of the audio which proved that you were lying, and you have a reputation in this county for erratic behaviour and we should take you seriously? Not gonna happen. And who is this Garrison kid you keep bringing up? Are you obsessed with him too? I'm just a citizen who is tired of your bs.
cooldaddy 9 months, 2 weeks ago
yes...he lied about Tim Lea Not being the one who brought up the memorial in closed session. He has no credibility. He relies on people here believing his lies and getting upset. If they knew the truth, and some do now, then Toda ( Totally Oblivious Dumb A )has nothing but rants to post He cannot answer so he throws out his certificate from Sandhills or whatever 6 week course he completed. Liars should be exposed. Flat and Toda, although long running bullies of the Pilot blogs, are called to tell the truth. Say it Flat...say that you know Tim Lea started the conversation. Do the same O wise one, Rockstar of the blogs.
Toda 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Wrong on all counts ~ but keep it coming ....
Have you run for anything or just a backseat driver ... 12% ain't bad for spending less than $300.00 ... and your excuse for not running for office good citizen?
Never been arrested, or detained, lost my license, operated a successful business for over 30 years. So what's your story or do you have something to contribute to the illegal activities of TPO-4.
Nice avatar and screen name while you hid like an unaccomplished twerp behind a keyboard, or a little girl who is afraid to come out of her room....
Toda 9 months, 2 weeks ago
cooldaddy => Can you try to be more specific in your rants? Gezzz, try to carry your own weight on these blogs as opposed to having to humpback your buddy dark knight.... Try posting something along the lines of fact ~ go ahead and refute my comments with your facts.
Thedarkknight 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Toad, Bflatoutwrong, and tarheelbornstupid, are always hating on Caddell, Picerno, Melton and Kennedy for mythical indiscretions and illegalties yet they ignore Tim Lea's constant flipflopping, and unethical behaviour. Can we say hypocrites.
Toda 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Wrong again ~ unless you can offer points of interest with links to factual information. Are you saying The Pilot published libelous copy when information was release for public consumption regarding violations of the Sunshine Law?
Like I said, "just like a child who has been smitten resulted to name calling and snide remarks. Facts got your tongue?
NewspaperReader 9 months, 2 weeks ago
"Obviously you work for Southern Software, Inc or related by marriage."
Oh good grief.
Do you guys actually know what the consequence of breaking the Sunshine Law is?
"...If the judge determines that the public body violated the open meetings act, he or she may void any action taken or discussed during the meeting in question if the suit was filed within 45 days of the disclosure of the violation."
http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/North_Carolina_Open_Meetings_Law#ixzz235qhB1h1
cantstandya 9 months, 2 weeks ago
@Toda-Please leave me out of your comments, you took the political comment I made personal, I believe you referred my accusations as toxic, you may want to look back at that one, your name was never mentioned, and my comments may not agree with some of yours but posting you condscending remarks seems abit overboard. I have posted many comments that are substantiated they just are not to your beliefs or many others, I take no offense from anyone on this site, just post what I feel, not looking for approval or disapproval by anyone.
cooldaddy 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Toda had dodged the truth again. He cannot answer a question. Ok, read this slow Toda…pretend I am speaking slowly to you. “Why do you lie, and why does Bflat lie, about Tim Lea on the tapes? Tim Lea spoke first in closed session. You two claim it is some tpo. Well, If you didn’t hear the tapes, and just made it up, say so. If you heard the tapes and lied, say so. Either way, I say you are a LIAR> Regarding the Avatar bs…why do you find it ok for bflat and maybe another or two who agree with your lies to remain anonymous, and turn into the red faced cry baby otherwise? Now answer why you say it was the tpo whatever and not Tim Lea. This will be a tap dance folks…he can’t. He is a liar. Bflat is a liar. You both are sorry individuals for using a sensitive topic to promote your hatred.
cantstandya 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Toda-Trying to remember which branch of the Military you were in, I know you stated it once, but for the life of me I cannot remember.
cantstandya 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Toda-Was that the Army,Navy, Marines, or Coast Guard, it does have some significance when it comes to discussing this subject. With your leadership ability you had to be Special Forces or a Marine. Just let me know so we can continue our conversation.
Bflat 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Go here to read the minutes, listen to audio of the "Regular Meetings" and to see the BOC Meeting Video. http://www.co.moore.nc.us/index.php/mnu-boc
Especially see the video of the last meeting where the Veterans Memorial is discussed. You can advance the video by holding your mouse cursor on the button on the bottom while moving it to the right. It's the button that moves as the video plays. It will allow you to skip the parts you don't care to watch.
cantstandya 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Toda- Realizing from your political resume you evidently have a educated background, so there is no need to embellish your career by stretching the truth. You stated that you operated a successful business for over thirty years, you might want to retract that statement, it was just twenty five years ago you were a carpenter bending nails for a not so reputable local contractor, just thought I would give you a wake up call. Probably not a high point in your career but none the less it is the truth, and I know how you like all to be truthful.
hippiern 9 months, 2 weeks ago
what a bunch of blow hards. why cant bojangles build a nice fence and plant nice bushes around the memorial. then when the patrons visist bojangles many more with stop and pay their respects to the moore co veteran which is what the memorial was supposed to be about. my grandpas name is there and I think he would have liked that
Courseaire 9 months, 2 weeks ago
General Petraeus's remarks require much reflection by our society.
Thanks to my fellow veterans:
Courseaire 9 months, 2 weeks ago
David Petraeus continued:
General David Petraeus West Point Class 1974
Toda 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Cantstandya ~ "cantstandya ~ His toxic assertions and unsubstantiated accusations is The Pilot's way of getting back at me for some previous comments. Anyone who would vest any credence in what Cooldud tries to write, wallows in the same swamp he surfaced from and must be kindred spirits."
I realize you have stated you are a contractor as there are many in Poorer County. Not one knows your business or accomplishments nor does any know mine. If you recall about that same time I was on the MC Home Builders Board as well ~ As a Licensed General Contractor.
So what's your claim to fame? By the way, if you visit my Facebook page since we are obviously not friends, you will see where I posted my inaugural induction into the Mu Delta Chapter of Alpha Sigma Lambda as a member and a National Honors Scholar.
Toda 9 months, 2 weeks ago
hippiern => For me it has absolutely nothing to do with a fast food business. It's about selling taxpayer land, that in essence belongs to the taxpayers.
Arestorer 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Thedarkknight; Re-read......Didnt say anything about the economy of Moore county....Its the stinch of "Politics"on the BOC that I was refering to...And,I've always been in MoCo, except dury military service and a few years in Myrtle Beach during the 80's....So,Where have you been for the last 50 years????
cantstandya 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Toda-Was not bashing you, just with some of your demeaning remarks towards those you find less educated it is not representative of one with your background and education, you must keep in mind all are not followers of the political areana that is under the big tent in Carthage, this matter does grab my attention and I hope is resolved without bringing politics into the picture anymore than it has, the only interest for myself is that the monument be looked at more than just a piece of granite by the side of the road, the names on it are the important thing.
NewspaperReader 9 months, 2 weeks ago
"For me it has absolutely nothing to do with a fast food business. It's about selling taxpayer land, that in essence belongs to the taxpayers."
What is special about this land?
cooldaddy 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Toda, You education is actually beneath mine. Maybe you can get a big truck to compensate. However, I know we all are waiting with baited breath to marvel in your bits of wisdom. Your resume' is noted. I will forward to the proper world planners. You still avoid answering the question. Did you and bflat just not listen to the closed session tape and make up what you wanted, or did you just flat lie? I tell you what. You can have an out. Just don't post anything else and we can pretend your computer was dropped in the toilet. That's where your words belong anyway.
cantstandya 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Toda- Actually having lived in several counties I have found Moore County to be for the most part the best and most stable. I am not politically involved as many on this site but do recognize when there are situations that arise and the resolve will not please everyone, this is one of those situations. Not everything has got to be made into a political arguement, things just happen we fix it and then move on. I do not know any of the County leaders as apparently you do but your exaggerated contempt for some has you resorting to making some pretty harsh comments, why not send them an e mail or letter but let it be between you and the party you are so upset with, your attacks on Mr. Caddell seem to stem from your own failed attempt into politics. As for your resume, well you are heads above me in education and my bedroom wall is not papered in diplomas and license, or certificates of whatever else you have accomplished, there is a reason for my shortcomings, but with your background you should be above the name calling and public on line complaining, most intelligent people do not have to display their achievments, their mannerisms displays that for them.