County OKs Cost Increase for Special Inspection on Detention Center

As of Wednesday, April 18, 2012

A $50,000 increase in the cost of a required special inspection of the county’s new detention center generated some contention Tuesday night during the board of commissioners meeting.

The board voted 4-1 to approve the amendment to the contract with Kleinfelder Southeast Inc, of Morrisville. Commissioner Tim Lea was the lone dissenter

The board voted 3-2 last October to award a contract to Kleinfelder Southeast Inc., an independent engineering firm specializing in special inspection and construction materials testing, that was not to exceed $268,885. Approval of the $50,000 would bring the total cost of special inspections to $318,885.

A state law adopted in 2007 requires special inspections for major capital building projects and includes soil testing and evaluation, reinforced concrete, structural masonry and structural steel.

The contract amendment states that the additional $50,000 is needed “due to additional man hours to perform the required testing and inspections services.”

Commissioner Tim Lea, who has consistently voted against the detention center project, took issue with the proposed amendment.

“The (jail) as supposed to be finished by Aug. 5, then we extended it to Nov. 4, and now we’re once again back to the table,” Lea said. “I guess $50,000 is not much in light of what will be a $42 million project, but for people not dealing with that kind of money, the taxpayers, it is a lot.”

In other business, Moore County Schools Superintendent Aaron Spence presented the schools’ fiscal-year 2012-2013 budget request to the board. Saying that “the success of every child is our top priority,” Spence asked for level funding from the county at $26,252,072, the same amount as requested for fiscal year 2011-2012, as part of a total budget of $95.8 million.

Commissioner Nick Picerno thanked Spence and the school board for the proposal.

“I appreciate you managing (the budget) so well,” he said.

Commissioners’ Chairman Larry Caddell also thanked Spence.

“I really feel good about the direction you’re going in,” Caddell said. “You’ll be a breath of fresh air.”

The board took no action on the budget proposal.

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Arestorer 1 year, 1 month ago

But of coarse!! And the spending probably wont stop there...

cantstandya 1 year, 1 month ago

Anyone who has ever participated in commercial construction is well aware of the inspections that are required,from soils testing,rebar and concrete,all welds and fabrications,almost all has some type of inspections required and usually by a independent inspections firm that issues reports to all pertinent parties,none of this is new,what is new is the amount of problems and additional exspenses that have occuered on this project that as large as it seems for this area is not really that great of an undertaking for repsonsible contractors or owners,something is just not adding up here and it seems those who are assigning watchdogs may be in need of some themselves or stop trying to act like they know what they have got themselves into,seems to be many open end issues here..

cantstandya 1 year, 1 month ago

Before I am blasted for my inability to spell let me correct my own mistakes,OCCURED,thank you.

cmptrepair 1 year, 1 month ago

why should taxpayers be surprised at this additional cost. this was a money pit from the day the land was bought. just wait until the final tally on this no vote by taxpayers to spend unlimited amounts of greenbacks from the money tree called tpo-3

doughnuts 1 year, 1 month ago

BOHICA

SoPinesNo1 1 year, 1 month ago

To the jail critics, look what Wake County just unveiled.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/10996414/

Arestorer 1 year, 1 month ago

SoPinesNo1-16 minutes ago; What is your point ?? The local"jail critics"arent against jails..

LSM 1 year, 1 month ago

Seems like I remember talk about the area being built on was what is called "wet land". Wonder if this has anything to do with the special inspections. "Lea said. “I guess $50,000 is not much in light of what will be a $42 million project, but for people not dealing with that kind of money, the taxpayers, it is a lot.”" Only about enough to pay for a much needed teachers position.

cantstandya 1 year, 1 month ago

You can't have enough jail space these days,and as to to Wake County new detention center remark they have about 800k more people to contend with so it would seem appropriate to have enough of a facility to accommodate those numbers,it's not the new detention center being questioned it is the uncontrolled and out of control management of the funds being constantly being used other than what was planned.

theonewithsense 1 year, 1 month ago

Wake county's population is more than 10 times Moore County's population and yet they can build a detention center for 151 M. Wake county is the friggin capital of the State, politicians everywhere, and yet they are able to build something at a fraction of the cost per person served than we can.

I guess maybe when we start filling up with federal inmates, we can cover some of the cost.

cantstandya 1 year, 1 month ago

Should have contracted a construction management firm at the beginning,thats what they do,manage and mediate beween contractors and owners,poiticians are not in the construction business as this project has proven.

Bflat 1 year, 1 month ago

Oh, but remember TP03 passed a resolution or whatever it's called, that no federal inmates would be houses there , "unless required by law to do so." It's supposed to be a JAIL, not the fed pen but they're building federal sized cells. Also , remember it can expand to 600+ beds. Larger pipes had to be installed around it during the dry season, so how is this going to play out during wet season? It will probably sink very slowly over time.

cantstandya 1 year, 1 month ago

What is the estimated cost to keep it up and running once the construction is complete,will it be self sufficient and actually profitable or a burden on tax payers ,built out of need yes but at what future cost to keep it up and running,facilities such as this will require full time staff of maintenance and up keep once the warrenties run out on many different areas, would be interesting to see a budget that lays out these yearly cost in a more detailed manner instead of a budget that is based on a hope and a prayer by the county leaders who so far just kept writing checks.

cmptrepair 1 year, 1 month ago

value engineering? so what happened? save a little - spend a lot. and a lot more. larry once supervised a deck being built. melton can't build a deck, picerno doesn't know squat about building anything. but the all chipped in with a vote to spend 55.3 million on water lines and a federal detention center. why not spend to get it right. its not their money. recall if we could. now taxpayers are stuck with the tpo4 money tree that keeps blooming in offseason.

cantstandya 1 year, 1 month ago

We need more money,OK,we have no idea what we are doing OK,the buildings surroundings are sinking OK, we have no one that really has a background in management of this type facility,OK,and it will cost whatever the final overuns are,OK, in other words it's OK, we need to let everyone know we will OK whatever we want.