What Our Local 'Occupy' Event Is About

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This past Sunday, I was taken by surprise at church when someone asked me about a story they had just read in The Pilot about Occupy Broad Street.

I had known The Pilot was interested. On Friday afternoon, I had received a call from my wife saying that staff writer Ted Natt had left a message asking me to call him ASAP. I was a little apprehensive because we are so early in the process that there just isn't that much to tell. By the time Mr. Natt's message was relayed to me, I had already missed him.

The result was a short article that, while factually accurate, was so light on details as to leave much to the imagination. As someone directly involved in the process, allow me to help fill in the blanks about what we are planning for Saturday, Dec. 10, at the downtown park in Southern Pines.

This whole thing came about as news stories about the spread of Occupy Wall Street movement made their way onto Facebook walls. As the movement spread from Zuccotti Park to cities across the country and around the world, the idea of doing something locally started popping up. A few of the people who were interested contacted a few other people, and we began working on putting something together.

The name "Occupy Broad Street" was the first one that came up, and it was what we used to do the paperwork and to do a Facebook page. But, as was discussed in the second meeting, it was a bad fit because Wall Street symbolizes something that Broad Street just does not.

In a world that often contrasts Wall Street and Main Street, the locally owned small businesses that make up Broad Street make it our "Main Street." Rather than corporate greed, Broad Street symbolizes the kinds of businesses we want to support. Our first meeting was at a restaurant on Broad Street. It is for us a destination, not a target.

Moore County, on the other hand, is a pretty effective symbol for the inequities of income and access to power that the occupy movement is about.

I had a chance to speak to Lee Riggsbee from The Southern Pines Business Association Monday. His association has reservations about the effect that the event might have on downtown parking - a legitimate concern. The last thing we want to do is to impede commerce to small businesses. We are looking for ways to make sure that parking will not be an issue.

I mentioned to Mr. Riggsbee that people who attended our event might actually use the businesses on Broad Street. He was skeptical that people who showed up for a protest would be inclined to then go shopping.

Here's what you need to know about the "kind of people" who are involved with the local movement: They are your neighbors. You go to church with them. They sing in your choirs. One reason we didn't ask for Dec. 3 is that some of our organizers will be representing Pinecrest High School in a debate at George Mason University on that day.

You play golf with our organizers. They volunteer in local charities. And, yes, they shop on Broad Street.

We are people with something to say. It can be as broad as "Hey, this isn't working for us. Let us demand that our leaders stop their posturing and bickering and actually do something to put middle-class Americans back to work."

It might be, "Maybe we can't solve all our problems by 'soaking the rich,' but punishing the poor isn't working either. If we tune out the talking heads and try listening to each other for a while, maybe we can find solutions." It can be as specific as asking people to write their legislators and ask them to support a constitutional amendment requiring that political campaigns be publicly financed because the market of ideas shouldn't be about the highest bidder.

This isn't Oakland. One of the reasons that it is an all-day event is to allow as many people as possible to participate. It is two Saturdays before Christmas for us, too. We have shopping to do, family in town and football games we don't want to miss.

Nobody is camping out. I'll be surprised (and gratified) if more than a handful of people stay all day. We have tried to be and will continue to be good citizens. All we want to do is to assemble peacefully and exercise our freedom of speech.

Kevin Smith, a freelance writer who contributes columns to The Pilot, lives in Aberdeen. Contact him at kevinasmith@gmx.com.

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SH59 1 year, 6 months ago

You may be angry about the disparity between rich and poor but try occupying Washington and take a stand against the political crooks who are using their insider trading loop hole to make as much money as they can for themselves. There is no incentive for them to anything for the people. They're the ones who are creating the divide.

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ProudYankee 1 year, 6 months ago

Anything that chaps off the right wing nutters as much as this movement has, is a giant step in the right direction. Keep at it !!

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dustyrhoades 1 year, 6 months ago

Here's what you need to know about the "kind of people" who are involved with the local movement: They are your neighbors.

This will be the single most valuable effect of the event, IMHO.

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MikeNC 1 year, 6 months ago

dustyrhoades 2 hours, 6 minutes ago Here's what you need to know about the "kind of people" who are involved with the local movement: They are your neighbors. This will be the single most valuable effect of the event, IMHO.

Yes, I agree with that as well. It sounds very reassuring. Possibly the merchants have a bit of concern at what they have been reading right here on other OWS threads. Many of our very own "neighbors" have been supporting the other movements even when ugly events started surfacing regularly. Some of our 'neighbors' poo pooed the violence as very little when put in context to the numbers of people involved. Other 'neighbors' of ours rooted them on openly and became distraught as the mayor curtailed some of their leeway; to safeguard the public....and urges them not to give up on their occupation. Sometimes our "neighbors" are not too neighborly. I do think all will turn out very well at this event, but I do see the concern of merchants on one of the last Saturday shopping days of the year....Mike

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Yukonjohn 1 year, 6 months ago

Our OWS protest have been very peaceful, but l think today they will be over. It is 45 below zero here....if they keep protesting, they have alot more guts than l do. Wall Street has not treated me that badly yet!!

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Bentpan 1 year, 6 months ago

I see Mr. Rhoades and Mr Smith want us to remember these are our Neighbors, kind of like they did when talking about the TEA party, I gotta tell ya, some hypocrit jokes write themselves.

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dustyrhoades 1 year, 6 months ago

I see Mr. Rhoades and Mr Smith want us to remember these are our Neighbors, kind of like they did when talking about the TEA party, I gotta tell ya, some hypocrit jokes write themselves.

They may write themselves, but they're apparently poor spellers.

Believe me, I saw some of the Teahadists marching in the local parades. Old, angry, and ill-informed.

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dustyrhoades 1 year, 6 months ago

jpb's off his meds again.

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Bentpan 1 year, 6 months ago

I see Mr. Rhoades and Mr Smith want us to remember these are our Neighbors, kind of like they did when talking about the TEA party, I gotta tell ya, some hypocrit jokes write themselves.

They may write themselves, but they're apparently poor spellers.

Believe me, I saw some of the Teahadists marching in the local parades. Old, angry, and ill-informed.

Gee and I thought some readers might miss the point, I guess Mr. Rhoades can be counted on to be consistantly juvenile even if it means proving a detractors' point.

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teufelhunden 1 year, 6 months ago

Nothing wrong with what JPB said, DR.

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fugitiveguy 1 year, 6 months ago

"Believe me, I saw some of the Teahadists marching in the local parades. Old, angry, and ill-informed."

Yes, so much anger. Why there must have been dozens, even hundreds of arrests at these gathrings. When anger is combined with being so ill informed it inevitably turns violent.

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teufelhunden 1 year, 6 months ago

That's odd. I saw them smiling and waving the American flag. Must have been a different parade...

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Bentpan 1 year, 6 months ago

Yea those horrible TEA partiers 3800+ arrests, the looting, Assaulting police officers, The rapes,the murders, the molitov cocktails, wearing masks like criminals, the desecreting of the american flag, the drug use.................. oh wait I'm sorry I got confused for a moment, that was the OWS, what was it the Teahadests did again, oh yea they went to the ballot box and gave the left a serious black eye.

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teufelhunden 1 year, 6 months ago

Have to admit that was pretty funny although I know some young whipper-snappers that are pretty full of hot air.

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Bentpan 1 year, 6 months ago

They are willing to stay weeks and months for what they believe in. I'll bet you wouldn't spend an April afternoon demonstrating for what you believe in ...........whatever the he## that is. Well I'm A Harleyman, I did once spend 6 years demonstrating what I believe in, 82nd Abn,div. 3rd brigade 1/325 but I guess that doesn't count, does it?

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teufelhunden 1 year, 6 months ago

It counts. Thank you for your service.

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moonchild7 1 year, 6 months ago

Thanks for the "invite" to THE OBS on Dec 10th justpassingby but I think I'll take your moniker and use it's meaning instead and "JUST PASS IT BY". Any of you see the pic of the 84 yr old woman who was PEPPER SPRAYED at the Seattle OWS demonstration? Very sad as these are PEACEFUL PROTESTS. Now I'm not an 84 yr old but even at a "younger" 58 I think I'll also take a pass on the pepper spray. I'm quite sure that "OBS" will be very peaceful and it won't get to that level but perhaps I'll "check it out" without actually participating. My Rep will be doing that while I buy a few Christmas cards at the shops. I had my "HAY-DAY" in the 70's at DC's Anti-War demonstrations. I wrote before how we "did it back then". As in, sleeping in abandoned buildings, empty cars, out under the trees....selling underground papers or just pan-handling for a few bucks to live on. We hitch-hiked to demonstrations, ate at soup kitchens, and used the many FREE CLINICS in DC when needed. It was so exciting to have been a part of changing the direction of our Nation both by personally demonstrating and then voting. I've been doing the voting thing ever since and will leave these demonstrations to someone else. I still have those fabulous memories to keep me going and want to see how the youth today try to stop the awful greedy and corruptive elements(the 1%) that's so rampant in our society today. GOOD LUCK.

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bufordsplay 1 year, 6 months ago

Yes Moonchild, I completely understand you demonstrating against an unpopular war when young people were being drafted to be sent overseas to die in a war they didnt believe in but I have no sympathy for these that want us to pay for their student loans and protesting inequality.There will always be inequality in a free society because we all are different and we are all where we are because of one thing and that is choices that we make.

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RmeMP 1 year, 6 months ago

what MOONBEAM DOESN'T tell you about the "poor 84 yr old" who was pepper sprayed, is that:

"Seattle police said plenty of verbal warnings were given to demonstrators attempting to block intersections and streets during rush hour; pepper spray was deployed only against subjects who were either refusing a lawful order to disperse or engaging in assaultive behavior toward officers".

a wise man once told me, "if you cant run with the big dogs, stay on the porch" - i have NO sympathy for a lady, who herself said, she's been protesting for liberal causes for "DECADES"; if you want to rumble in the middle with these VIOLENT protestors, then you get what you deserve...

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pattruslow 1 year, 6 months ago

Moonchild...I, too, remember those days and the reasons for protests. Probably, if it hadn't been for those days, we would still have the draft. Remember people like Norman Mailer who spoke out so effectively, much like Michael Moore today. The big difference in then and now is that so many of the people are passionate about certain issues, albeit often uninformed about them. They don't know how to step to the podium in an effective debate or research an issue in order to determine the real from the fake. Worst of all, they temper everything with disgust and hate for others, always failing to recognize there is ALWAYS two sides to a story, ALWAYS anothr opinion, and ALWAYS room for comprise. This type of attitude/behavior is at the root of the unrest in our wonderful country; I'm shocked, saddened and ashamed to find the same right in my own back yard. Thank heavens that I've lived long enough to know that the good ALWAYS outweighs the bad, and that the worst of us is usually the smallest in number. I applaud the effort and tenacity of those that have arranged this OBS opportunity, and I intend to do everything I can to support them. If any of you naysayers want to show your face at the event, I'm the white haired lady with the bronze-colored cane...please introduce yourself as you drop your can of food in the Food Bank doation box.

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pattruslow 1 year, 6 months ago

Spelling correction...it s/b "compromise"...pardon my blunder!

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fugitiveguy 1 year, 6 months ago

I'd say that when it comes to big money influencing politicians it doesn't get any worse than organized labor having politicians (most often Democrats) in their pocket. Funny, the lefties don't seem to have a problem with that. Does any "legal" organization have a more corrupt past than organized labor?

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RmeMP 1 year, 6 months ago

ill compromise with you moonbeam - if you go, i'll go; i'll even buy you a cup of coffee :)

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moonchild7 1 year, 6 months ago

Well, RmeMP, I just watched the 84 yr old who was peppered sprayed in Seatlle on Keith Olbermann's show and she said that she and her friends had just begun to leave the area when the police rammed them with their bikes and started to pepper spray them. She began to fall to the ground, she said, when a young Iraq war veteran grabbed her and helped to get her out of there. She said she would have fallen to the pavement and would have been trampled if he hadn't helped her. She said that she doesn't like to sit on the couch and just watch tv...she stays informed and stays active especially when it comes to issues such as the ones that the Occupy movements represent. You're a mean person Mr. RmeMP.

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RmeMP 1 year, 6 months ago

no, moobeam im not mean - im a realist. children and elderly DO NOT BELONG THERE!!! same rule applies to a battlefield, which this stupid "movement" is becoming...

psst... moonbeam... i have a secret for you... the hippies WILL lose ;)

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fugitiveguy 1 year, 6 months ago

We should all be occupying the mall in DC demanding that our CHSHT politicians of both parties cut the crap and cut the spending. 1.2T over 10 years is a joke and they cannot even come up with those cuts. Does anyone on here (lib or conserv) know what the end game for the debt is? Is anyone paying attention to what is going on in Greece. They are at the point where cuts have to be made, no more kicking the can down the road, of course the moochers are protesting the cuts. Is this our future, I think it is inevitable.

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skylinefirepest 1 year, 6 months ago

Hey Honda guy...are you SURE you're not simply that idiot the viper reborn as a Harley Dude???

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skylinefirepest 1 year, 6 months ago

Wow, Moonie! You're just absolutely incredible!! While you were protesting and hitting the free clinics ( for what?? ) and panhandling for a few pennies, I was serving in the Viet Nam era military! I seem to have missed all the fun except for when I came back from overseas I was younger and not as forgiving as I am now and I would have decked any hippie that had the nads to spit on me or any of my fellow servicemen. I didn't care for hippies back then and I don't care for them now...you have the freedom to talk your trash today only because of what military members have done for you through-out history. Even today I really do have more respect for those who have served than for those who "serve" in the government...you know the kind, those well to do "public servants."

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skylinefirepest 1 year, 6 months ago

Hey Moonie...just another quick question. Have you bothered to go to Fayetteville anytime this week to the Heroes Homecoming and thanked any of those guys and girls who paid for your freedom? Or are you like a bunch of the lefties and swear that you love the soldiers and just hate what they do?

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MikeNC 1 year, 6 months ago

moonchild7 14 hours, 29 minutes ago "Very sad as these are PEACEFUL PROTESTS"

So Moonchild7; this movement has been peaceful according to your definition. Would you welcome this same level of peacefullness to occur here in Southern Pines? The same level of peacefulness towards local business? I hear the protestors have big plans on shutting infrastructure down in New York today. I assume you would be 'OK' with that here in Southern Pines as well? Assaults on each other and police and rescue personnel, robberies , rape, plugging local merchants plumbing with cement, tearing commodes and sinks off of local merchant walls, general mayhem, thousands of arrests, costs to cities in the millions, etc, etc, etc, etc to nauseum. And this is peaceful in your world? Will you be disapointed if the S.P. crowd actually does keep things peaceful? You have already told us how YOU acted in your prime...will you be disappointed in the Southern Pines crowd if they do not follow your lead? And to think you are the "kind of people" that will be here in Southern Pines according to one of the organizers...one of our "neighbors". Google is full of the mayhem and your brand of peaceful protest. Here's just one of them.... Mike

http://quitenormal.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/oaklands-occupiers-go-berserk-rampage-destroy-try-to-shut-down-city/

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

Some of you blowhards are so intent on taking Moonchild7 to task, that you have completely lost sight of common sense. What you fail to understand that a national movement is underway to put an end to Washington Politics as usual. Not one of you have come out against HR 1148 a standing bill before Congress that would prevent your representatives from cashing in on insider trading...the same offense that Martha Stewart and Andrew Shilling served time in a federal prison. They were not exempt; however your Congressional and Senatorial Representatives are exempt from insider trading....

believe it or not blowhards, you are in the 99%-ers. Even the 1% millionaires who appeared before Congress understand that the tax scale tips in their favor. So how many of you are millionaires? Non I would venture to say. Why support the economic downfall of this nation by covering multimillionaires six? Why not take Washington bureaucrats to task for allowing an economic decline that has been going on since 2001. Want a link?

perhaps you can vote them all out like you did last November!!! That went over well. The coupon millionaires can thump their chests and rally around the teabag express. Way to go millionaires!

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"RmeMP 12 hours, 5 minutes ago"

General you take the proverbial cake. You bask in your service to your country and then make a stupid remark like: "children and elderly DO NOT BELONG THERE!!! same rule applies to a battlefield, which this stupid "movement"...

Since when did our warriors die in battle for people like you to say that children and the elderly do no belong there ~ ~ to express their freedom of speech? What bush did you climb out from under that gives you any posture to assert that other American's have no right to express their displeasure with a dysfunctional Congress, and a corrupt Capitol Hill? General ~ do you not have a television or is just tuned into Fox News? I think families should make a day of the event and bring the future of our country to see democracy in its finest hour! Hey, I'll be there for any topic or discussion....Look me up.

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fugitiveguy 1 year, 6 months ago

I agree with RMP that the elderly and children do not belong there. I feel this way simply because of the level of violence and filth that has prevailed makes it simply unsafe for them to be there, its just common sense. Now on the other hand, I have heard of no such violence or filth at the Tea party events (admittedly I have not attended). I think its safe to say the elderly and the very young would be very safe there. Its just another of many contrasts to these groups.

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"MikeNC 34 minutes ago"

What are you gibbering about Mike or Dianne? Are you now a soothsayer or just a wishful thinker so you can boast about the police beating up on American Citizens who express their ire with Washington Politics, corruption, lack of transparency, backroom deals, and most recently Gerrymandering here in North Carolina.

Why not address Newt Gingrich's sweetheart deal receiving 1.6 million dollars AND $25,000 to $30,000. a MONTH as an adviser for Freddie Mac. After stepping down as Speaker of the House. O' but that must be off the table since he is a Republican and a multimillionaire; One of the 1%'ers. You and others spend more time chastising a few who post threads than researching the issues. READ sometime and your lame posts won't appear so shallow. Tommy

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fugitiveguy 1 year, 6 months ago

Toda-if you think the freak show that is the occupy movement is the countries finest hour we are in far worse shape than I previously thought.

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"fugitiveguy 1 minute ago"

I think the blog threads were about Southern Pines...not about New York. Some on here are trying to paint another picture as opposed to what is actually going to take place. Too many doom and gloom narrow-minded people.

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"fugitiveguy 4 minutes ago"

Okay ~ what is your solution for getting our country back on track? Vote the bought and paid for Congressmen out of office? Tried that last November. So you think that the efforts of Civil Rights leaders were a waste of time, and perpetuated violence?

Where would you start then? Peaceful protest is one of our rights unlike China - Tennimen Square. Remember that when the Chinese people were attacked by tanks.

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fugitiveguy 1 year, 6 months ago

Gingrich averaged 200,000/yr over 8 years. Currently it is reported that Fannie/Freddie have paid out 13mil in bonuses to 12 executives, I think this is for 1 year. (a little perspective).

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MikeNC 1 year, 6 months ago

So sorry Toda to not address all them other things...I was just kind of staying with the topic of this discussion...."What Our Local 'Occupy' Event Is About" ...and not hijack the post 180 degrees like you love to do.

BTW....If you would take the few seconds to read an entire reply you will plainly see my name..."Mike" attached and not my much better half. Possibly if you take the time and pen your own editorial for print on Newt; we can then take that subject up....Mike .

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fugitiveguy 1 year, 6 months ago

Toda, I don't follow you? I think you are reading into my comments what is not there.

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fugitiveguy 1 year, 6 months ago

But since you asked-how to get our country back on track

A far more simplified tax code might be a good place to start, perhaps a flat tax

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fugitiveguy 1 year, 6 months ago

second-an immediate and absolute cap on the level of federal spending

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"im_a_harleyman 7 minutes ago"

Thank you harleyman for you service to OUR country...not the country that belongs to the corrupt politicians. And just to think how many service men and women gave their lives and futures to injuries so Washington Politicians can suck the life blood out of this country selling out to the highest bidder, makes me want to .....??

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"if you think the freak show that is the occupy movement is the countries finest hour we are in far worse shape than I previously though"

Didn't read anything into this statement....

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fugitiveguy 1 year, 6 months ago

"Didn't read anything into this statement..."

I meant that one word for word. Way to cherry pick, though

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RmeMP 1 year, 6 months ago

Watch out everyone, TOADa is on another one of his carpet bombing runs!!!

BTW TOADa, hondaboy never said he was a veteran - he was being condescending to skyline; why don't you try reading the WHOLE thread before you load up your payload for your bombing mission?

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"fugitiveguy 3 minutes ago"

A FAIRTAX bill has been on the back burner for over a decade. That's not going to happen since there are tax attorneys, tax-prepares, IRS and Department of Revenue jobs at stake. Neil Boortz ((http://www.boortz.com/ ) wrote a book about the Fairtax and the pending bill. Politics as usual, just like Boehner wanting to deny the 1% their wishes to contribute more to the nations economic crisis.

"an immediate and absolute cap on the level of federal spending" Cap and trade is and was a failure since the inception. Until one understands the economic stratification of Cap and Trade or Cap and Spend, the devil is in the details. Never has worked except to the satisfaction of those under the Cap.

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"RmeMP 1 minute ago"

What are you bombing this morning, General? No one but you has mentioned bombing!

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

Mike you took the words out of my mouth: " I hear the protestors have big plans on shutting infrastructure down in New York today. I assume you would be 'OK' with that here in Southern Pines as well?"

Now old wise one ~ what has New York have anything to do with Southern Pines other than winter quarters for some?

"MikeNC 18 minutes ago"

...and not hijack the post 180 degrees like you love to do. Lets go back to my first quote...I hear the protestors....? Did you not type this or has your log-in been compromised?

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"RmeMP 7 minutes ago"

BTW TOADa, hondaboy never said he was a veteran...Okay - speaking for Hondaboy?

Hondaboy did say, "I did once spend 6 years demonstrating what I believe in, 82nd Abn,div. 3rd brigade 1/325 but I guess that doesn't count, does it?"* NO - Actually - I call that a JOB!"

"why don't you try reading the WHOLE thread before you load up your payload...So Hondaboy didn't spent 6 years with the 82nd? Are you sure your meds are working General?

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MikeNC 1 year, 6 months ago

RmeMP 0 minutes ago why don't you try reading the WHOLE thread before you load up your payload for your bombing mission?

Hahahaha LOL Thanks for the snicker RmeMP. When Toda starts dropping all these bombs of his; he must think he is accomplishing something. In actuality he just embarrasses himself with all the duds he drops. Hell...I'm embarrassed for him. Anyone who has watched this occupy thing go on and know the repeated and ongoing violence being done; and condones such behavior to our first ammendment rights loses all personal credability. There are limits to our first ammendment rights. Those who wanted to address such issues peacefully is a good thing. The movement however is loaded with a bunch of professional cry babies, free loaders and losers by choice who ruined it for the ones who wanted to address some credable issues. ...Mike

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MikeNC 1 year, 6 months ago

Toda 6 minutes ago Now old wise one ~ what has New York have anything to do with Southern Pines other than winter quarters for some?

Since the entire topic is the OWS movement that has spread from New York across our country; and now this columns topic is of that same movement coming here to Southern Pines on December 10th....I will ignore that question of yours Toda. It is said that "There is never a stupid question" You have just disproved that theory...Mike

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"MikeNC 1 minute ago"

"condones such behavior to our first ammendment rights loses all personal credibility. "There are limits to our first ammendment rights."

For such a learned individual, you prostitute our Constitution saying, "such behavior to our first amendment rights"; There are limits to our first (amendment) rights.

Amendments to The Constitution of the United States of America (Amendment I)

Congress shall make no law respecting and establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Perhaps you and the General need to read more and write less. Your lack of knowledge regarding a document that is the law of the land is credulous. And to think that you take it upon yourself to modify the written word of our countries founders speaks volumes about your character.

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MikeNC 1 year, 6 months ago

Off Topic for Toda....And Obama didn't even provide a service for payment rendered; just like sooo many other politicians....Mike PS....and BTW....please note that the ammendment states PEACEFUL assembly.

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"MikeNC 6 minutes ago" "that same movement coming here to Southern Pines on December 10th....I will ignore that question of yours Toda. It is said that "There is never a stupid question"

But there are still stupid answers. So how many protesters from New York are you expecting?

" was just kind of staying with the topic of this discussion...."What Our Local 'Occupy' Event Is About" Let me ask the question once again...HOW MANY PROTESTERS DO YOU EXPECT FROM NEW YORK?

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

Mike did you not say this?

"I hear the protestors have big plans on shutting infrastructure down in New York today. I assume you would be 'OK' with that here in Southern Pines as well?"

Now Mike who is going off topic...You need to start over and qualify your insidious statements that have nothing to do with Southern Pines or the Dec 10th event.

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"MikeNC 9 minutes ago"

Glad you took time to read Amendment I...The only violence so far is a rape by a person who was a criminal prior to the OWS movement. Other than that, it's been police brutality at its finest. Or your definition is taking a dump in a bucket as violent protest....At least our National Parks allow tents but not our cities for peaceful protest.

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

Mike you still haven't qualified your statement:

"There are limits to our first ammendment rights.

Please go forward with your explanation of "limits"? Did I in fact miss write or misquote our first Amendment that was ratified December 15, 1791? Please provide information when the "LIMITS" were added to the Constitution and what year? Thanks

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MikeNC 1 year, 6 months ago

The right is for people to peaceably assemble Toda; not to assemble and break every law in the book. Go listen to what mayor Bloomberg had to say after being so tolerant for way too long. Go take a look on the news at what these demonstrators are now doing in New York. You cannot be serious that the only violence was that rape you mention. I cry 'uncle' Toda and quit as it is not possible to converse or discuss what you have been saying here. ....Mike

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Jibbs 1 year, 6 months ago

Toda,

"Hondaboy did say, 'I did once spend 6 years demonstrating what I believe in, 82nd Abn,div. 3rd brigade 1/325 but I guess that doesn't count, does it?"* NO - Actually - I call that a JOB!'"

Is that a direct quote? Because 1/325 is SECOND Brigade of the Eighty-Deuce, not third.

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moonchild7 1 year, 6 months ago

I hope that the OBS "activities" will be PEACEFUL, INFORMATIVE and HELPFUL to those especially who need to have their brains OCCUPIED with some sense. You righties are just OUT OF IT! COMPLETELY! skylinefirepest, I had my brother(Retired Vietnam Vet) over for a Veterans Day dinner and he'll be with us for Thanksgiving too. We just have to listen over and over to his war stories but that's okay. He and I are still are on opposite "sides" of things but I've helped him more than a lot of sisters(Hippie or non)help their own brothers. So far NYC is okay and they weren't able to "shut down Wall Street". The cops had it all blocked off and I just talked to my son who works near there...he said he knows a "back way" into his office building so goes around it all but he is supportive of their message. Oh, he DOES NOT work for WALL STREET, he just works near there. The way to really BRING DOWN WALL STREET MikeNC is for "THE PEOPLE" or THE 99% to NOT participate with their businesses...take any $$$ they have out of the banks, don't buy from corporate pigs, boycott companies. They have the right message but looks like they'll have to change tactics. And MikeNC I don't want the small businesses along Broad St to suffer any ill will. I have a friend who owns a business down there and just hope she'll be VERY BUSY with CUSTOMERS NOT PROTESTERS. One more thing, skylinefirepest, it wasn't anything to do with drugs or sex as to why I had to visit the FREE CLINIC on Wisconsin Ave in DC. It was from near pneumonia after sleeping "under the October stars" with only a thin blanket to try to keep me warm. Sorry to disappoint you guys that my "Hippie Days" weren't as grungy or depraved as you seem to believe they were.

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

Here you go Mike...who is really advocating violence in New York. The police punching people in the face. Looks like a foreign country police presence to me.

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"Jibbs 32 minutes ago"

Jibbs just a copy and paste of: im_a_harleyman 2 hours, 13 minutes ago "I did once spend 6 years demonstrating what I believe in, 82nd Abn,div. 3rd brigade 1/325 but I guess that doesn't count, does it?" NO - Actually - I call that a JOB!

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"moonchild7 23 minutes ago"

thanks for sharing ~ let the knuckleheads support the 1% most wealthy Americans. When they have to resort to public assistance to survive, perhaps their thoughts may change to civil discord as well.

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

Mike watch the youtube video: "Go listen to what mayor Bloomberg had to say after being so tolerant for way too long".

Is he coming to Southern Pines as well or is just another "diversion" to off-topic again?

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"I cry 'uncle' Toda and quit as it is not possible to converse or discuss what you have been saying here. ....Mike"

Sounds like a man who has been pushed into a corner and can't support his own statements that are a bunch of crap. You like so many throw words out there without any supporting sources. Then chastise anyone who disagrees with your diatribes. Limits to freedom of speech? What country are you from anyway?

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justmyopinion 1 year, 6 months ago

"The way to really BRING DOWN WALL STREET MikeNC is for "THE PEOPLE" or THE 99% to NOT participate with their businesses...take any $$$ they have out of the banks, don't buy from corporate pigs, boycott companies."

Could you please meet me and my children somewhere? I want them to see a perfect example of what NOT to be when they grow up.

You actually think not buying from or boycotting banks, companies and corporations would be a positive for the US? I can't wait to hear you explain how that helps anything.

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Courseaire 1 year, 6 months ago

Toda - You really need to read the comments better. Harleyman never said 'I did once spend 6 years demonstrating what I believe in, 82nd Abn,div. 3rd brigade 1/325 but I guess that doesn't count, does it?", Bentpan did. Harleyman was just quoting him.

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fugitiveguy 1 year, 6 months ago

"Cap and trade is and was a failure since the inception."

who said anything about cap and trade, it is a completely different issue

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fugitiveguy 1 year, 6 months ago

They keep yelling Shane in the video, who the heck is Shane? BTW, I say they were baiting the cops, it was their goal to get film of a cop ruffing up a demonstrator. These people need to get a life.

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MikeNC 1 year, 6 months ago

Toda...I've supported my statement; you either do not read or fail to comprehend. Here's another limiting factor that possibly you can understand. You cannot yell..."FIRE" in a crowded place. Does that break it down better for you. When they resort to violence...they have pushed the limit too far.

I should have known that you would cry foul on the police officers. I watched the tape and have been watching the nightmare unfold for a couple months now. The police officers need to be cannonized for sainthood in my opinion. The restraint and professionalism they are demonstrating is unbelievable. I now see why they are referred to as "New York's Finest".....Mike

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"fugitiveguy 2 hours, 45 minutes ago" "second-an immediate and absolute cap on the level of federal spending"

"Until one understands the economic stratification of Cap and Trade or Cap and Spend, the devil is in the details"

perhaps you didn't finish reading my statement. With any government Cap...there has to be leverages that affect budgetary considerations. If the government would ever Cap spending as an introduction to line item spending, our economy would definitely plummet and there wouldn't be any access to catastrophic reserves. With Cap and Trade, licenses could be sold to the highest bidder which allowed polluters to contaminate the environment even more than before. That was my point of contention with Caps on any government program.

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"Courseaire 33 minutes ago"

You have a point and are correct....

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"fugitiveguy 3 minutes ago

Who in the film are the professionals. The cops didn't honor a Superior Court order. But that's okay that the protesters didn't violate the order. Life? For what? Exercising their right to civil protest? Which part of the Constitution would you change?

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

Mike surely you jest!

When they resort to violence...they have pushed the limit too far." The Cops or those who are requesting they honor a court order? The cops threw the first punch...not the other way around. I call it police brutality.

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moonchild7 1 year, 6 months ago

You've got to be kidding, justmyopinion. According to you I would be an "EXAMPLE" of what they should NOT be when they grow up. Your poor, pitiful kids must be so muzzled, stiff, uninquisitive, and bubbleheaded that it's just NOT FUNNY. So many of the kids today are walking talking conservative materialistic zombies. They'd be more than lucky to meet me but NO THANKS! Gee, lets see, I graduated from college, had a successful career, have no debt(own my home outright), been married to the same person for 29 yrs., sent my son to college(gave him $500 the first 4 yrs and $1000 for the next 2) where he graduated with an UNDERGRADUATE and MASTERS degree and paid off all of his college loans within one year of graduation. That's a really bad example isn't it justmyopinion? What kind of example of a life do you want your kids to follow? My father worked for a Fortune 500 Co. and retired in the 70's. The Co. became corrupt and went downhill for many yrs...was bailed out in 2008 by our GOVT. I never bought another thing from them after my Dad died in 1976. They should have been allowed to go under because their business practices were evil and therefore according to the main rule of Capitalism been ALLOWED to FAIL! Then another company, hopefully with better ethics could have taken their place. That's the right way justmyopinion. Your kids aren't being taught the right things.

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MikeNC 1 year, 6 months ago

Kevin Smith.....You be the judge as you read over some of these bizarre comments of people STILL stating there is no violence other than from the police. Comments condoning what has and still is occurring in cities across our nation. Comments stating that the event in Southern Pines has no relevency to what is going on in New York right now. Does the "These our your Neighbors" comment you made still bring the desired soothing effect you hoped for; as these comments Mr. Smith are coming from your neighbors...Mike

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"I now see why they are referred to as "New York's Finest".....Mike" For striking a lady in the face with their fist. I see what kind of person you really are when you condone striking a woman with a fist. You are a deplorable human being.

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Courseaire 1 year, 6 months ago

Thank you Toda. IMHO, I usually am.

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Bentpan 1 year, 6 months ago

im_a_harleyman 3 hours, 12 minutes ago "I did once spend 6 years demonstrating what I believe in, 82nd Abn,div. 3rd brigade 1/325 but I guess that doesn't count, does it?"

NO - Actually - I call that a JOB!

Really, I guessing it's " a job " you never held, BTW tell the next soldier ( especialy a wounded one) you meet he's just doing a job. typical liberal, 35 years ago you and your ilk treated us like dirt and obviously you still feel the same today. You might want to change your sceenname to "I'm a Harley owner" if you get my drift.

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fugitiveguy 1 year, 6 months ago

I could be wrong but I thought cap and trade referred to co2 emissions.

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moonchild7 1 year, 6 months ago

Oh, justmyopinion, and how did my kid pay off all of those loans so quickly? He sometimes worked two and three jobs 7 days a week! And how much was that graduate degree? Only $25,000 that he paid as he went. In other words he paid CASH each time he registered for a class which was about $1500.00 a pop! I sure was a BAD example on how to work hard, pay your bills, be kind to others, and be HONEST! Who are you teaching your kids to be like? George Bush? Jimmy Swaggart? Bernie Madoff?

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MikeNC 1 year, 6 months ago

moonchild7 1 hour, 36 minutes ago And MikeNC I don't want the small businesses along Broad St to suffer any ill will. I have a friend who owns a business down there and just hope she'll be VERY BUSY with CUSTOMERS NOT PROTESTERS

You are too funny MC7...."I have a friend who owns a business down there" LOL You condone, applaud and hope for more chaos and ill will to merchants elsewhere; but wish prosperity here at home. How very moronic, hypocritical and neighborly of you....Mike

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fugitiveguy 1 year, 6 months ago

Toda, I didn't say they should get life, I said they should get A life. C'mon man!!

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fugitiveguy 1 year, 6 months ago

Included in Cap and Trade 101:

What is Cap and Trade?

In short, the “cap” is a legal limit on the quantity of greenhouse gases that a region can emit each year and “trade” means that companies may swap among themselves the permission – or permits – to emit greenhouse gases.

Cap and trade commits us to responsible limits on global warming emissions and gradually steps down those limits over time. Setting commonsense rules, cap and trade sparks the competitiveness and ingenuity of the marketplace to reduce emissions as smoothly, efficiently, and cost-effectively as possible.

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MarkinMiami 1 year, 6 months ago

Funny how John Edwards, I mean Dusty Rhoades calls the Tea Partiers "Teahadists". I don't recall any rape, robbery or rampant drug use at Tea Party rallies. I'm definitely not tea partier, but I've witnessed a few of their rallies first hand. Pretty damn quiet and respectful. Of course the SIX people that turned out for "Occupy Ft. Lauderdale" looked like they'd just come out of the Broward County Jail on felony drug charges.

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MarkinMiami 1 year, 6 months ago

Mike, I enjoy reading your posts btw. You seem to be one of the few around here with any sense. Those "occupy" morons couldn't carry out a peaceable assembly even if they were surgically relieved of their vocal chords. They are just another example of mostly 20 something punks that thinks this country owes them a living.

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"fugitiveguy 31 minutes ago"

;-) "I said they should get A life. C'mon man!!" Doing what? Working long hours for the 1%'ers. The rich get richer and the poor keep getting poorer.

"fugitiveguy 35 minutes ago Included in Cap and Trade 101:"

Try Principles of Microeconomics ECN 2020 - 800...A great example of Caps not working. Not only on environmental pollution ... maybe not since the corporations have found a way around that concept, but Capping spending would have the same disastrous results as well. Have you studied Macroeconomics yet...?

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"MarkinMiami 6 minutes ago" Where's around here...surely not in Miami! "Of course the SIX people that turned out for "Occupy Ft. Lauderdale" looked like they'd just come out of the Broward County Jail on felony drug charges." Perhaps your drug induced coma precludes you from dealing with the reality of what state you are actually residing....

"They are just another example of mostly 20 something punks that thinks this country owes them a living". Man you really need to quit smok'n that stuff. Perhaps the video's you're watching doesn't show the senior crowd who are exercising their Constitutional rights to free speech.

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

Something Mike thinks "There are limits to our first ammendment rights.

And you Miami agree with his off the wall comment? Havana is only a short distance from Miami...No rights to worry about there.

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MarkinMiami 1 year, 6 months ago

What's up with this guy and his pasting of everyone's replies? lol. weird. Toda I don't live in Havana. But most Cubans I know here (and I know quite a few as one of my best friends is a Cuban gentlemen) are very conservative, very anti-Castro and very much against opening up relations with Cuba. At least until "the beard" is dead and Democracy is restored.

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MarkinMiami 1 year, 6 months ago

"Toda 3 Minutes Ago"

And you Miami agree with his off the wall comment? Havana is only a short distance from Miami...No rights to worry about there.

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

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MarkinMiami 1 year, 6 months ago

Master Toda... Cut and Paste you he will!!!!!!!

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RmeMP 1 year, 6 months ago

Hey there mark, what you see TOADa doing is what we refer to as him "carpet bombing" a thread; unfortunately we can't stop him from doing it. Even though he hardly makes any useful comments, he is at least good to laugh at :)

Don't worry though, it should be about time for him to go take his nap.

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MarkinMiami 1 year, 6 months ago

It's definitely good for a laugh.

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moonchild7 1 year, 6 months ago

What's up with you MikeNC? Where are your brain cells? Do you have any? This is about CORPORATE and GOVERNMENTAL CORRUPTION! Have you ever been to D.C, NYC or the NorthEast for that matter? Do you have any clue about the UTTERLY FILTHY SELFISH GREEDY and ARROGANT 1%er's who inhabit those places there? How STOMPING on the little people physically, financially and emotionally is a sport? Surely you've seen "It's a Wonderful Life"; the Mr. Potter character is just a smidgen of the type's to be found strolling on the sidewalks of 5th Ave. and Madison Ave. My friend here in S.P. has the SMALLEST of a SMALL Business. She is NOT part of the PROBLEM...in fact she's been part of the solution! Don't you understand the difference? I was not part of the group who planned this OBS. The park is a very nice place but for the message to be really sent correctly it should have been held in front of Wells Fargo or Bank of America. Bank of America has a pretty big parking lot. But I'm sure the cops would be out in a larger force and not in a good way if the demonstration was held there. MikeNC, please do something with those brain cells.

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MarkinMiami 1 year, 6 months ago

What kind of business Moonchild? Incense and grateful dead posters? lol. Hemp skirts perhaps?

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MikeNC 1 year, 6 months ago

Moonchild makes the statement..."But I'm sure the cops would be out in a larger force and not in a good way if the demonstration was held there."

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe made the statement centuries ago...."There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action." He must have had a premonition about you and Toda...Mike

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dustyrhoades 1 year, 6 months ago

This just in:

More members of the Occupy movement have jobs than members of the Teahadists:

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/11/most-occupy-protesters-have-jobs.html

28 percent are over 40:

http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/The-Reformed-Broker/2011/1019/28-percent-of-OWS-protesters-are-over-40

See also:

http://www.fastcompany.com/1789018/occupy-wall-street-demographics-statistics

They aren’t all kids. Xers, Boomers, and older are also in on it: One-third of respondents is older than 35, and one-fifth is 45 or older. It’s not all students and the educated elite. About 8% have, at best, a high school degree. And just about a quarter (26.7%) are enrolled in school. Only about 10% are full-time students. “Get a job!” wouldn’t apply to most of them. Half of the respondents are already employed full-time, and an additional 20% work part-time. Just 13.1% are unemployed--not a whole lot more than the national average. “Tax the rich!” could hit close to home. About 15% earn between $50,000 and $80,000 annually (pretty good anywhere except in Manhattan). Thirteen percent earn over $75,000 annually, and nearly 2% bring in more than $150,000. It may be a party, but not that kind. The movement is often identified as a liberal, even Democrat-dominated cause. But just 27.3% of respondents call themselves Democrats (and 2.4% are Republican). And the rest, 70% call themselves independents.

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moonchild7 1 year, 6 months ago

How many cops does it take to defend a basketball hoop, MikeNC? Now how many cops does it take to defend BOA? There must be a joke in there somewhere. Somebody please help!

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Courseaire 1 year, 6 months ago

MC7 takes the 1% of the 1% of the 1% and assumes it's the 1%, as do most of the 99%ers, which in reality are the 1%. Based on the number of OWSers, they are closer to the 1%, trying to pass themselves off as the 99%. Obviously, they are not very good at math or economics, which is why they can't get a job of any value.

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MarkinMiami 1 year, 6 months ago

lol Courseaire. I've yet to talk to one that is employed. I look at it this way. I made some bad decisions in my 20's. Ended up with some bad credit, had trouble finding a job. This was during clinton's tenure. Didn't care for ol' bill. I think anyone that burned a flag and refused the draft had no right commanding the armed forces, but all that good stuff aside, I had no one to place the blame on but myself. I didn't blame Wall Street, the administration or those other hidden evils. It was my own fault. I tell ya what, there's no place in today's America for personal responsibility. According to the powers that be we should just hand out money left and right. We should also reward people for making bad decisions... like having 7 kids. That's my personal favorite. The woman on the news that is supposedly speaking english and complaining about being broke, all the while holding on to 7 kids. I think LBJ's great society has had its day in the sun. If we can even call it that. It's about as failed an idea as prohibition.

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Courseaire 1 year, 6 months ago

Their message is good, just ill aimed. MC7 states that all Wealthy crooks & Gov't officials corrupt, when it's only a few. Hold those that are crooks or corrupt accountable & stop blaming anyone that is successful or ambitious for their own shortcomings.

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MarkinMiami 1 year, 6 months ago

My boss is "an evil Republican" lol. An evil Republican who sold off all his extra toys (cars, boats, etc) and quit taking a paycheck just so we could stay in business and not lay anyone off. Frankly I'm glad these so called "fat cats" are around. I enjoy being able to pay rent, power and water. Being able to buy groceries is a plus as well.

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MarkinMiami 1 year, 6 months ago

Thought I'd share this article with everyone. It's from one of those "racist, evil Tea Partiers" lol. I think the guy makes some very valid points.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/11/blacks_still_played_and_controlled_by_tired_old_democrat_paradigms.html

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moonchild7 1 year, 6 months ago

All of you do know that Psychologists are hired by Grocery Store Chains to develop the "shelving order" of products to get the customer to BUY MORE STUFF than they normally would. The Power of Persuasion, Undue Influence, The Shadow Effect and Diabolical Energy, anyone? What about Subliminal Messaging? People were PERSUADED to use their homes as ATM's with something called HOME EQUITY LOANS. They were constantly being mailed new credit cards. Yes, people should have been smarter but they weren't and those HUGE Corporations took total advantage of many human beings weaknesses. That's NOT FAIR, ETHICAL, or a Good Business practice except for the shareholders of the companies perhaps. No matter, that's crossing the line over to the dark side. No not all 1%ers are horrible, just a lot of them.

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skylinefirepest 1 year, 6 months ago

Hey Tricycle boy...Have you served your country or are you just another leftie mouthpiece that hates the country but loves the benefits?? Are you sure you're not the viper?? Sound just like him. And to answer your question or comment as the case may be, I enlisted and I'm damn proud of my service! Should have made a career out of it but I didn't. My mistake! And it wasn't then nor is it now "a job". It's a way of life just like my fire chief says about the fire service. And Moonie still didn't answer my question...having your brother to dinner is nice but HAVE YOU BEEN TO FAYETTEVILLE TO THANK THE GUYS AND GIRLS THAT PAID and still, PAY FOR YOUR FREEDOM???

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geoffcutler 1 year, 6 months ago

Skyline...Eight ball in pocket!. And thanks for your service.

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moonchild7 1 year, 6 months ago

NO, I didn't go there to "Thank" anyone, I don't have to...the men on both sides of my family gave enough blood, sweat and tears thru the years in America's warz back to WWI. My brother took a Veteran friend of his there for the ceremony. My family gave "gifts" of military mementos several years ago to Fayetteville's Military Museum. We have several family members buried in Arlington's Cemetery. Thanking our military is NOT a requirement of U.S. citizenship, pestman. My first husband was a Marine in Vietnam in 1968, he received the Purple Heart. I thanked him quite often. What is your problem? You too, Geoff. Thousands are marching in NYC tonight across the Brooklyn Bridge. Now those people should be thanked for exercizing their First Amendment Rights, with the risk of getting arrested or having their skulls fractured by the cops and their billy clubs. No use in fighting for RIGHTS if we can't have the FREEDOM to use them!

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RmeMP 1 year, 6 months ago

ok, ok... all arguments aside - i really do love all you guys (moonbeam and DR included).

i enjoy the opportunity to jest back and forth and exchange differing views; it's actually pretty amazing that we have the opportunity to have these "contests". we will never all agree on everything, and while I may not concede an argument - that doesn't mean I don't appreciate your views :)

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skylinefirepest 1 year, 6 months ago

Moonie...I appreciate your family's service, more than you can probably understand. What I asked you is if YOU HAVE THANKED THE TROOPS??? Apparently you, like a lot on the wierd left think, take for granted the freedoms that we have in this, the greatest country on the face of the earth, without ever taking the time to give thanks for those who have sacrificed for you!! I served...and I still thank the soldiers that I meet and work with!

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JER 1 year, 6 months ago

skylinefirepest: Sorry,to disagree, but what you had while in the military was a JOB. You did your job and you got paid for doing it. People who do things without getting paid are one of two things: either a volunteer or a hobbyist. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate all those who join the military because it can be a very hard job to do. I also appreciate policemen, firemen and the guy who pumps out septic tanks for the same reason. What kind of gets me is the constant need you seem to have for being thanked for doing your job. You have somehow been convinced that what you did in the military was some sort of divine calling that places you in a mythical status. There are many people doing their jobs every day, facing possible death around every corner, who do not constantly want to be thanked for their service, need to have people genuflect as they walk by them or need special consideration when buying a car. In short, one need not be military to be a patriot. Like you, I live in this area and am exposed to many active duty and retired military. All that I see are doing well financially so the "sacrifice" has paid off for them. Kind of like me sacrificing a lot of my family life earning a living working 12 to 14 hours a day and being on the road, away from home week after week, year after year. I did it to provide for my wife and kids and no thanks are needed for my sacrifice.

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skylinefirepest 1 year, 6 months ago

Actually JER, I rarely have mentioned my service time. But MOONIE seems to bring out the best in me and just DEMANDS an answer. And yes, being in the service is a job, as you say, but it is also a way of life...just like being a fireman! It is something that you do because you want to do it...not because you have to. And as to your comment about my having a constant need to be thanked for it?? Well, if you will go back over all the posts that I have written in the last year I think you'll only find a couple of references to it. This post is an exception because I admit, Moonie got under my skin with her claptrap hippie experiences referenced about every other sentence. And I really believe that if you compare her posts with mine you'll find that she references her dad working for a Fortune 500 company many, many more times than I have EVER mentioned my military service.

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Courseaire 1 year, 6 months ago

I should be thanked for my job too, as I face death every day in service to my employer. Death by paper cut, staple stabs and most of all death by boredom in a meeting, the worst of all deaths. I thank me for me.

Since I was in DC yesterday, I watched the impressive march by the DC OWSers, all 150 of them march down a busy DC street. There encampment is 2 blocks from the White House, yet when they marched, they got lost & went in the wrong direction and completely missed it. Poor souls - they really need some guidance & leadership - I guess that comes from work experience which they seem to lack.

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geoffcutler 1 year, 6 months ago

Moon...one of your first posts on here was to say that you thought a Pilot columnist was a racist. Since then, you have come on here only to point out what's wrong with America and those you disagree with. Never anything positive, just griping and name-calling. That's frustrating to a lot of us who want to believe there is real good in our country, who want it to succeed and progress within the framework of the system we have, and not try to tear it down and change it into something it is not.

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"MarkinMiami 20 hours, 12 minutes ago"

Just curious MarkinMiami, you are obviously new to The Pilot blogs. You like so many use sarcasm in an attempt to distort facts or have absolutely nothing of substance. Apparently you are related to Mike and Diane since you have jumped on board with nothing to offer. Have you ever been to Moore County?

"RmeMP 19 hours, 5 minutes ago" "unfortunately we can't stop him from doing it." He's not smart enough to stop writing jabberwocky. There are about 3 or 4 posters on here whose educational achievements total 10 years of school. You know who you are by the junk you post. RmeMP is a retired corporal who is partially disabled (sorry about that) who has nothing better to do than to sit at his computer all day and think about non-issues to those in the intellectual community.

Does Miami have a blog there that would be more poignant than one 800++ miles away? O' yea it's about dad and mom not being able to hold there own intellectually without sarcasm.

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"moonchild7 13 hours, 15 minutes ago"

Don't worry too much about the hits you are taking from those who have nothing better to do than take potshots at someone who has a grasp on our society. I came up in the same generation and I share your thoughts as well. Keep exercising your 1st Amendment Right to Free Speech.

Only Mike thinks there are limits to Free Speech. I wonder which part of free speech he would change? Funny that he can throw something out there and then become so defensive without justifying his position. Link Please!!!

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RmeMP 1 year, 6 months ago

Mikenc:

TOO FUNNY!!! I can hear the air raid sirens going off now ;)

(Ps TOADa, my rank was a little higher that corporal)

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moonchild7 1 year, 6 months ago

My life experiences and my families experiences are for the very most part where and how I developed my 'Left-Wing" opinions and ideas. That's why I cite them; so some of you who just have "opinions" without anything that's real or meaningful to back them up just "pull them out from somewhere?" Not to bore you guys too much(HA!), I was born and raised in Wash., DC and then raised between there, NYC and Boston. This was during the 50's, 60's and 70's and so was of course one of the most transformative times in our countries history. I got to witness so much of it in person! Not too many out there can say that. My disdain for Corporate America really accelerated after my fathers death. He lived everyday for that company, Almost 7 days a week until he became ill and had to retire. In my opinion the stress they put him under because the company was going down the tubes contributed to his very early death(53). He never got to see his daughter graduate from college and have a succcessful career. He never got to meet his grandson. That's what all of this is about, guys! Unfairness, Corruption, Lies, Cheats, Psycho Killers.......! Geoff, I've written so many positive things about America, myself, and others, you just don't comprehend it all, I guess. People out there are so blind to the lies. OBS will hopefully open a lot more of them up. The question is, How many of you guys are ready for it?

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"RmeMP 1 hour, 6 minutes ago"

O' yea, I remember ~ General! Major General If I'm not mistaken....

Mikes solution to freedom ... bomb them back into the stone age. Or limit freedom of speech.

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Bentpan 1 year, 6 months ago

JER 10 hours, 24 minutes ago skylinefirepest: Sorry,to disagree, but what you had while in the military was a JOB. You did your job and you got paid for doing it. Jer you ever have a "job" where your employer legaly requires you to relinquish some of your civil rights, that you were not allowed to quit, that required you to take a life if ordered, that required you to put your own life in extreme jeopardy, that your employers could imprison you or even execute you for disobeying, and of course where the competitions employer wants you dead literaly. and in my case the starting pay was about $300 a month, not that that has any relevance. My point JER is you have no idea what you're talking about, like it or not military service is the ultimate demonstration of belief, I believe you would be hard pressed to find a serviceman/woman that considers what they do as something so mundane as a "job", for most Americans it's is so much more important. It's a shame you can't, or is it, won't see that.

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"RmeMP 21 hours, 56 minutes ago"

"Don't worry though, it should be about time for him to go take his nap."

And how did you come to that conclusion genius? I don't know that our paths have ever crossed. Let's try this one on for size: Writing a Thesis Paper for African American Literature, on W.E.B. DuBois from the works of Henry Louis Gates Jr. and Nellie Y. McKay, General Editor. Some of us have a quest for intellectual growth, while others choose to be stagnant. Which one are you?

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WhatIfff 1 year, 6 months ago

Are we witnessing the Holy Bible being full filled ? Is it that the 99% will, one day, be first & the 1% will, one day, be last?


Matthew: Chapter 19 Verse 20 - 24 - King James Version

The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?

Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.


Matthew: Chapter 20 Verse 16 - King James Version

So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.


Matthew Chapter 25 Verse 40 - King James Version

And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, In as much as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

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RmeMP 1 year, 6 months ago

@Mikenc:

Freakin awesome; perfect siren!!! Funny thing is, he doesn't even get it - shows how much attention he pays ;)

(You should post the siren video every time he starts one of his bombing runs)

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"RmeMP 3 minutes ago"

What are you rambling about now. Children will play....

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Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

"RmeMP 3 minutes ago"

What are you rambling about now. Children will play...stagnant I would venture to guess.

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moonchild7 1 year, 6 months ago

You've got it right MikeNC. That's the 1% for ya. Drop those bombs! Blow it up! The Military Idustrial Complex has made a lot of those sicko's on Wall Street and Constitution Ave. a lot of $$$$$$$$$. Only problem is the 99% actually have to use lots of less violent tactics to bring those guys down. At least taking our $$$$$ out of the banks and not buying their products leaves a little less radiation snd napalm in the air and on the ground. And you guys talk about how VIOLENT the OWS crowds have been. There's no comparison. You all need your heads examined, but I'm not sure anything's in there.

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RmeMP 1 year, 6 months ago

Wow.... Are moonbeam and TOADa that oblivious to this thread?!?!

Hey you two, the videos have NOTHING to do with the OWS crowd, nor Mikenc wanting to blow them up; why don't you take a few minutes to read through some of the comments between he and I and try to figure it out again - if you STILL can't, then let me know and I'll let you in on the joke :)

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justmyopinion 1 year, 6 months ago

Hey LooneyMoon- Its none of your business who i teach my children to be like. They are their own individuals. I can only point people out in life that they really may not want to be like. You know, people like you. Now, what time can we come by to see you?

You?? Really?? You, taught your child to be kind to others?? LOL. To bad you never listened to your own advise.

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moonchild7 1 year, 6 months ago

See what I mean? This thread is supposed to be about OBS and MikeNC is posting BOMB videos. No, RmeMP, I guess I don't get the joke. You really think I'm telling you how to raise your children, justmyopinion? Do what you want of course but I still am curious who you teach/tell your children are "Good Role Models?" That tells everything. I'm opinionated with a LEFT-LEANING Value System, and that has nothing to do with kindness. My kindness quotient cannot be measured but that doesn't mean I'm a sap either. I never really met too many ultra right wing Social Workers in my career. I wonder why?

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RmeMP 1 year, 6 months ago

You want role models moonbeam? Ok:

Ben Franklin, George Washington, Gen. Patton, Audey Murphy, Buzz Aldrin, Martin Luther King, JR. - just to name a few; do you have a problem with any of them?

Ps: The bombing and siren videos are in reference to a joke which was made earlier about how TOADa likes to overrun threads :)

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MikeNC 1 year, 6 months ago

Toda 5 hours, 2 minutes ago Only Mike thinks there are limits to Free Speech. I wonder which part of free speech he would change? Funny that he can throw something out there and then become so defensive without justifying his position. Link Please!!!

Only Mike...Really Toda?? How about you link yourself up to about the three times I already answered that very question of only yours right here in this thread. Or how about you just google 'limitations to the 1st ammendment'. You know why you are the only one to pester me on this? Because everyone else is aware that there are always limitations. I really wish you would be such a strict constructionist to other aspects of our constitution and goverment....Mike

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moonchild7 1 year, 6 months ago

There are NO WOMEN on your list, RmeMP. The world is more than 50% women or about 3.5 BILLION and you can't name one WOMAN. That's a problem.

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ztech 1 year, 6 months ago

Dusty, your last sentence sounds like your bio.

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RmeMP 1 year, 6 months ago

of course... moonbeam shows why no one likes her; SHAME ON YOU moonbeam - you have NO RIGHT to belittle my list of rolemodels simply because i didn't list a women! you asked for examples and i gave them, i never said you had to agree with them - they are a few of MY examples of a role model.

if you want to list women on your list, then list women; fact of the matter is, i'm a dude - and dudes aren't raised to idolize women. are there exemplary women throughout history? of course there are - but they don't make the top of my list.

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moonchild7 1 year, 6 months ago

That's fine RmeMP but I was asking this question(more specifically)of justmyopinion. I, of course, know nothing about that person nor his/her kids. If he/she only has boys, then maybe okay but if he/she has girls it just might help that girl to "see the whole world" with a little broader brush. You see, NARROW-MINDEDNESS and SELFISHNESS begins at HOME. That's why there's so many problems in the world, to say the least. justmyopinion, my kid is an excellent example of a person to be like. He's hard working, giving(last year after work he took time to "count the homeless" for the Census, in NYC, after 12pm at nite...it was unpaid), and caring, he "Rents-a-dog" once in awhile because in NYC they have "Rent a Dog" programs at their Humane Societies where people can have a "pet" for a day and then return them, He'll be helping to prepare food for Thanksgiving Dinner at a Soup Kitchen this weekend but I think that's enough. I think I need to just tell him to STOP doing those things because there are so many nasty "you-know-whats" in the world that it's useless.

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skylinefirepest 1 year, 6 months ago

Well, Moonie, since you refuse to answer my legitimate question and since you have finally told everyone to revert back to the original point...I'll give you my honest opinion of the OCCUPY BROAD STREET. I think it is a colossal waste of time and resources. They are not going to catch Washington's attention and in cities all across the country they are costing US tax money for the police, the EMS, the firemen, the clean-up crews, etc. There has been crime, violence, filth, and slowdowns of lawful commerce just so the loonie lefties and their media can scream about how many millions ( another lie, of course ) of people are demonstrating. And for what?? Most of them apparently can't give an answer as to what goal they are after except for attracting the attention of government. Well, vote them out and that will get their attention...in the meantime, stop fouling our cities, slowing our traffic, and wasting our precious resources in a time when the economy doesn't need this additional spending. And I'll say up front that I don't believe that any of that will happen here...I don't think Kevin has it in his blood to be so in favor of something that he would fight over it. And BENTPAN, thanks for the support and you are entirely right. I would doubt that JER has ever served or he would know what we were talking about. I doubt in his "JOB" that he's ever had to put himself in Harm's way like so many men and women do for this country every day of the year!!

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FightFireWithFire 1 year, 6 months ago

Feminists.....blech.....

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