Ready for Back-In Parking Downtown?

This digitally altered picture shows how the 100 block of North West Broad Street would look with back-in angle parking.

This digitally altered picture shows how the 100 block of North West Broad Street would look with back-in angle parking.

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Drivers in downtown Southern Pines will soon park differently on portions of Broad Street.

The town is unveiling back-in angle parking, which has existed for decades but is only beginning to sweep the nation.

“It’s going to be really exciting to be one of the very first communities in North Carolina to have back-in angle parking,” says Robert Reeve, director of the town’s recreation and parks department.

Reader poll

What do you think of Southern Pines idea for back-in angle parking?

  • I like it 18%
  • I don't like it 60%
  • I will wait and see 14%
  • My spouse can't park a car as it is! 8%

628 total votes.

The demonstration project of back-in angle parking will be conducted on the west side of Broad Street from New Hampshire Avenue to Massachusetts Avenue and on the east side from Pennsylvania Avenue to Connecticut Avenue.

Those five blocks were selected because they get enough turnover “to truly test public opinion and adaptability,” but they are not so busy “that back-ups cause a furor,” according to criteria listed in the Bicycle Transportation Plan adopted last October by the Southern Pines Town Council.

Not coincidentally, the $13,000 project will be piggybacked on existing N.C. Department of Transportation (NCDOT) plans to repave Broad Street by November.

“We can save money working with DOT,” Reeve says. “Right after they’ve resurfaced everything, we’ll work with the subcontractor on all the stripings and other markings on the pavement. It fits right in with what we’re doing as we begin phase I of implementing the bike plan.”

Back-in angle parking is currently being used in North Carolina on several streets in Charlotte and is about to be implemented in parts of Cary. Its sporadic use around the country is concentrated on the West Coast.

“This isn’t a decision that was made just yesterday,” Reeve says. “Back-in angle parking has been discussed for more than a year and was included in the bike plan, which was also approved by DOT.”

Reeve has begun an outreach program to educate the public about the upcoming changes, and he chose the Southern Pines Business Association (SPBA) for his first stop. Downtown merchants have a large stake in the outcome because the five demonstration blocks are in the heart of the central business district.

“All of the downtown merchants want the project done before the holiday shopping season begins. None of them want it to interfere with the season, which accounts for a large portion of their annual revenue,” SPBA President Lee Riggsbee says. “If it’s going to happen, the sooner the better. The good news is we’re not losing any parking spaces.”

Riggsbee and Reeve expect an “adjustment” period once the changes are implemented.

“There’s going to be a learning curve for everyone to figure it out,” Riggsbee says. “It will just take some time.”

The new parking spaces will jut out at an angle from the curb but will face away from oncoming motorists instead of toward them. Similar to parallel parking, drivers will signal, pass their spot and back into it instead of entering front first.

“It will take some adjustment,” Riggsbee says. “It’s just a change, so I guess everybody will get used to it.”

In some cities across the country, drivers have had trouble adjusting. But the opposite happened in Tucson, Ariz., where the college town went from an average of three to four bicycle/car crashes per month before back-in angle parking to none in the first four years after implementation.

Although Reeve has no way to predict the impact here, he hopes that his presentations and the resulting word-of-mouth will ease the transition.

“We’re trying to do everything we can to educate folks about the upcoming changes in downtown Southern Pines,” he says. “We’re trying to communicate with as many people as we can. We started with the SPBA, and we’re hoping that we get 100 percent coverage.”

Proponents of back-in angle parking tout the following benefits:

n Improved visibility and improved field of vision. Drivers are able to see oncoming traffic when leaving their parking spot.

n Decreased number of collisions. Drivers no longer have to blindly back out of their parking spot.

n Improved safety for bicyclists. Drivers are able to see bicyclists in the roadway while exiting a parking space.

n Improved loading and unloading. Trunks back up to the sidewalk instead of the street.

n Improved handicapped parking. Spaces can be placed adjacent to curb ramps.

“It does seem like it’s the new wave of making a community safe for its residents, whether they’re shoppers, bicyclists, pedestrians or motorists,” Reeve says.

Potential drawbacks include vehicles overhanging the sidewalk, vehicles backing into street furniture, vehicle exhaust over sidewalks, vehicles entering the spaces head-in and potential congestion as drivers adjust.

The transition will be aided with signs and other markings to clarify the appropriate use of back-in angle parking spaces. Initially, “seed” cars could also be parked in a few spaces to illustrate the correct way to park.

“People will figure it out,” Riggsbee says.

Meanwhile, the town is recruiting residents to serve on its newly approved seven-member Bicycle and Pedestrian Advisory Committee. Members will be appointed by the town council.

“I’m trying to get as many people as possible to apply,” Reeve says. “We’ve already had quite a few, but the more the merrier.”

Contact Ted M. Natt Jr. at tnatt@thepilot.com.

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Comments

ClareBearNo1 1 year, 9 months ago

May I just point out a few things?

"Improved loading and unloading. Trunks back up to the sidewalk instead of the street." According to your picture, the back-in parking appears to be on the side of the street OPPOSITE the sidewalks. Looks like it will be more difficult to get to your trunk.

"Potential drawbacks include vehicles overhanging the sidewalk, vehicles backing into street furniture, vehicle exhaust over sidewalks . . ." Again, according to your picture, the back-in parking appears to be on the side of the street OPPOSITE the sidewalks so these are moot points.

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theonewithsense 1 year, 9 months ago

Details, details.....they got rid of the picture for you

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Toda 1 year, 9 months ago

This might be interesting when those little old ladies attempt to "back-in" without rubbing and exchanging paint on exposed fenders and bumpers. Then take off without a hint of remorse....

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CNMT 1 year, 9 months ago

Was thinking the same thing....some people can't pull into a parking space correctly so I can't even imagine them trying to back into a parking space. And I have seen some people backing out of their parking space - it isn't always a pretty sight. While this method does have several advantages, this should be an interesting adventure!

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Toda 1 year, 9 months ago

CNMT ~ SP police might need to hire a couple more traffic officers just to stand in front of the post office to write tickets...Check out the link provided by DaveyNC. More of a reality check than mindless reasoning proposing back-in-parking.

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Bflat 1 year, 9 months ago

The trouble with the existing angled parking is when a huge SUV is parked beside and one has to just back out practically an inch at a time due to being unable to see oncoming traffic. The same is probably going to be true with the pull forward. Ummm, help me out as I have not had time to really study the back in configurations. Will the existing pull in be changed to back in by changing the angle direction?

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Toda 1 year, 9 months ago

Notice not one Silver Hair amongst the drivers? Also, not a male in the bunch except the "gentleman" who parked the young lady's skateboard with wheels. My goodness, how did she obtain a drivers license? Thanks for the link...funny....

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Bflat 1 year, 9 months ago

Now that vid was funny Davey. I can't figure out why some people have trouble backing up their cars. That's not all. Why do some drivers pull up so far away from the bank drive ups and have to open the door to reach the deposit canister?.

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driveshaft 1 year, 9 months ago

Have the higher ups in So. Pines lost their minds ??? Half the people here can't even parallel park !!!!! Can you imagine the confusion and destruction in front of the post office. I remember years ago we use to have 2 lanes of traffic on Broad St. in both directions, what happened to that ? Now back to the post office. Back in the 60's when I was growing up, the post office had the same 3 windows it has now ! If they would build a new post office, we get faster service and less congestion

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boomer 1 year, 9 months ago

What if you're right behind the person intending to park & even tho' they flash their turn signal you're too close & it's too late to stop because you've already at the parking spot & there's cars behind you, does everybody then have to stop & back up so you can proceed to back in?What a mess that would be!

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Zippy 1 year, 9 months ago

This strikes me as maybe going from bad to worse and parallel parking would probably work as good as anything else. Now for something that many readers will think is obnoxious and frankly so do I but I'm going to suggest it anyway, is there another choice? First of all I'm not sure that the off street parking near the library is utilized enough, I don't know? There seems to be inadequate off-street parking down town in any case. So here goes, I know its awful but why not make a parking lot in back of the park, I agree its a horrible idea but what is the town going to do with that space anyway? I haven't heard anything and it will probably take years of dithering about it anyway so why not cut to the chase and make it a parking lot and ban on street parking say, between Penn. and Conn. avenues for some breathing room maybe we extend the sidewalk a little wider then so we could have some room for outdoor dining and maybe some islands with plantings and benches. Just a thought.

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pacer 1 year, 9 months ago

MIght be as entertaining as the seniors in Pinehurst trying to negotiate the traffic circle.

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emb6683 1 year, 9 months ago

What's the point of changing? The report says there will be no increase in the number of parking spaces, so all that is being done is adding to the confusion that visitors to the downtown have. Now in addition to "yield to the left" they have to learn back-in parking.

It seems that the only group that will benefit from this is bike riders.

I also don't understand hoew doing this will change the behavior of 80% of the drivers in this area. The article states "drivers will signal, pass their spot and back into it instead of entering front first." So drivers are going to start to signal now? If that happens, it will all be worth it, since most don't signal now.

The stupid comment that it allows easier loading and unloading since trunks back up to the sidewalk has already been highlighted. Obviously, whoever put that in the article has never driven on Broad St.

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debsalomon 1 year, 9 months ago

I still haven't acclimated to Yield to the Left, especially when I'm the one on the left. I'll bet 100 percent of visitors and 50 percent of residents slow down anyway when crossing the tracks just because they are entering an intersection. I think each one of those intersections should have stop signs on Broad and cross streets. Couldn't hurt....

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debsalomon 1 year, 9 months ago

Nothing's perfect...but for people like me who moved from a northeastern metropolis where downtown on-street parking is scarce and harrowing (climb over snowbank, find meter pay-station, hunt for credit card, pay a bundle, hope for the best) and parking lots charge scalpers' prices the parking here looks great. It's plentiful and FREE. You might have to walk a block or two, but the walk is pleasant and the streets, safe. Big SUVs do pose a danger when pulling out of an angled space. Perhaps drivers who have a problem with back-in spaces should confine their parking to parallel spaces on side streets, or on FREE city lots.

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FightFireWithFire 1 year, 9 months ago

Awesome. Except for the drivers who like to yield instead of stopping at the right hand turns downtown. I think that is going to cause a few wrecks as people who already don't know to back up are having trouble getting into a spot. I watch people while they drive, and the bad habits and stupid things they do continue to elude me. People need to look over their right shoulder when backing unless they are comfortable and competent using their mirrors only. All too often I see people who are backing up and have no clue how to do so safely.

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CNMT 1 year, 9 months ago

You are assuming they can turn their head far enough to look over either shoulder....LOL

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Arestorer 1 year, 9 months ago

I believe Bike-lanes in Downtown are not needed..The speed-limit in downtown is far below the ability of most bikes...I could understand the need in higher speed areas, but not dowmtown..We are supposed to be sharing the roads with bikes, not giving them the right-of-way..And the back in parking is just plain stupid..theres no sidewalks on the track side of the road,so how will this help trunk loading?? Most of the retired local drivers cant even back out of the spaces, much less back into them.This sounds like some Fru-Fru California BS...Leave it on the West coast..

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RmeMP 1 year, 9 months ago

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Arestorer 1 year, 9 months ago

What happened to the first story and comments???

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melzabeth 1 year, 9 months ago

happens a lot. they change the story and lose the comments.... dunno why.

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emb6683 1 year, 9 months ago

The only people who will benefit from this are the bike riders. It's not going to add any new spaces and, contrary to one of the advantages touted in the article, it will make it harder to load your car, since the trunk will now be against the railroad tracks, with no sidewalks.

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Arestorer 1 year, 9 months ago

Southern pines is already one of the bike friendliest towns around....Seems like another"good" reason to waste our money..

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HillTopper 1 year, 9 months ago

HAHAHAHHAHA ... This is going to be funny! Arestorer, I don't know. They do it all the time cycling news. You see the link DaveyNC posted with the original article? Funny stuff.

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Arestorer 1 year, 9 months ago

I saw the link,,,priceless!!!!

I guess thats why they added the forth choice in the poll..

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Flabbergasted 1 year, 9 months ago

Is this a Joke? "Similar to parallel parking, drivers will signal, pass their spot and back into it instead of entering front first" Yeah, right, no one uses their signal as it is. That is the first joke. Second Joke, Backing into a spot. I have yet to see anyone successfully back into a spot without fully taking up two spots. Third Joke, Add a bike lane to this already mess of an obstacle course. The street is barely wide enough for a file of cars, now you shrink that by adding a bike lane. Why don't they throw in a parade that includes clown cars, jugglers with knives and a handful of Whirling Dervishes. This has disaster written all over it.

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7lakesmom 1 year, 9 months ago

Wow! A sane, realistic, thinking person really does exsist in this small town after all!!! I couldn't agree more!! Anyone heard the phrase "If it ain't broke. don't fix it"? Have any of these idiots ever tried parallel parking on that narrow street already crowded with folks who need to turn in their driver's license anyway? You can put your blinker on 5 car lengths before you intend to park and is anyone actually LOOKING at your blinker? Nope, they're right up on your tail, oblivious to the fact that you are trying to park! Now what? You are forced to circle around AGAIN and hope this time you get an observant driver behind you and the parking spot is actually still available! If you think people are gonig to be successfully backing into parking spots in this town you can think again. You people need to visit the city and see how the educated do things...or get a hobby and leave well enough alone!!

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theonewithsense 1 year, 9 months ago

This is an awesome idea to remove congestion from the down town area. Instead of messing with the crazy parking, people will go elsewhere relieving the already congested streets.

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HillTopper 1 year, 9 months ago

I've mentioned it to at least a dozen people and they all think I'm joking.

This is ALL about the bicycle lane, isn't it? Screw the cars. Wrecks will be fine. As long as there's room to ride your bike. Which, by the way ... the bicycle riders are annoying as hell. Clog up the road, regardless of how much space they have where there's no room to pass. Smells of special interest to me ...

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pgericson 1 year, 9 months ago

HillTopper- Think of a bicycle as a slow moving vehicle, which it is albeit with pedal power, which you have to pull around to pass. It really isn't so difficult once you get the hang of it. Cyclists do not hug the edge of the road because (a) some drivers don't see that they are there and (b) drivers try to squeeze by with only inches to spare, sometimes forcing the cyclist off the road.

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emb6683 1 year, 9 months ago

I'll think of a bicycle as a slow moving vehicle, instead of as an impediment to traffic, when the bicyclists start to act like a slow moving vehicle.

  • vehicles don't drive two abreast in one lane of traffic
  • vehicles wait behind other vehicles at a stop sign until their turn, and don't drive on the shoulder to get at the head of the line
  • vehicles stop at a stop sign or light, and don't just continue across if they think it is clear -vehicles have front and rear lights, not just reflectors, that are used in limited visibility -slow moving vehicles on a 55 mph road, when they are driven by courteous drivers, pull over to allow all the vehicles behind them to pass
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theonewithsense 1 year, 9 months ago

vehicles traveling 20 mph or greater BELOW the speed limit are extremely rare in Southern Pines

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melzabeth 1 year, 9 months ago

I try to park on a side street and walk a few blocks to get downtown....much easier even with a four year old in tow. I can drive but so many others can't....saw a lady going the WRONG WAY down Broad Street the other day. The current setup works if people know how to drive.

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my3cents 1 year, 9 months ago

OMG!!! Please tell me we are going to outlaw those big black "sunglasses" with the side "blinders" that everyone over 65 wear. They already can't see you in their big vehicles driving straight and will pull right over right on top of you, and to think they are going to have to back into a parking space, guess they will push whoever is behind them out of their way to get in it!!! Please say "April Fool's" NOW even though it is August, they both start with "A"...:) YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING! I thought we were trying to use our money's more wisely in this slow economy ????

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truthmatterstome2 1 year, 9 months ago

Southern Pines has always been jealous of Pinehurst, now they have found a way to compete with the traffic circle and all the drivers who never had a drivers license or even owned a car until they retired and moved to Pinehurst. This idea must be an effort to increase the income of the town, seeing that there will be more wrecks. Even the town acknowledged that drivers will have to re-learn how to park. I also agree that backing cars into curbing is obsurd. Wait until the old folks try to load their trunks, while slipping on the wet grass/dirt. Just a stupid idea....but who can be surprised, after all this is Suffern' Pines.

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CNMT 1 year, 9 months ago

Ah, increased revenue for the local doctors and hospitals....LOL

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Sean 1 year, 9 months ago

I cant wait to see someone try to do a 2 1/2 point turn and pull into the parking spot front-in. I love it!!

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DaveyNC 1 year, 9 months ago

I guarantee that the blue hairs will be doing that. And the women.

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Sean 1 year, 9 months ago

They could always cut all the trees down and make it 4 full lanes plus a bike lane and parking on both sides, and Increase the speed limit to 45??

Town Council:, the above is a JOKE!

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Bflat 1 year, 9 months ago

Those big azaleas and other shrubs that interfere with loading purchases into the trunk of cars have got to be gone.

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debsalomon 1 year, 9 months ago

Where are the other people like me who moved from congested northeastern cities where street parking is scarce and expensive, and parking lots charge scalper's prices? Imagine driving around for 20 minutes, finally spotting a meter, then climbing over the snowback to find a meter pay-station, digging out your credit card and hoping for the best. Or finding change for an old-fashioned meter that may eat your quarters and not register. We are SO fortunate to have plentiful, FREE downtown parking. If you don't like the new system, parallel park on a side street or pull into a space in a city lot and walk. Streets are beautiful and safe. Just be thankful.....

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Toda 1 year, 9 months ago

I'm thankful for pork shoulder, pintos, and greens. What does the "northern experience" have to do with transplants steering lead sleds, impaired vision, and dysfunctional coordination, and using walkers to ambulate a few blocks to the postal, with congested northern cities?

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Flabbergasted 1 year, 9 months ago

We heard you the first time! When you are one of the many numerous dozens of people who are backed into either on the street because someone failed to "Signal" and now you have 5+ cars trying to back up for that driver, or have half of your car taken out due to someones inept and horrific "Back-In Parking" job, i bet you'll change your tune about this absolute terrible and abhorrent idea.

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Toda 1 year, 9 months ago

Nice avatar there Flab....

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theonewithsense 1 year, 9 months ago

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe the reason you moved from the North was because living is better here? I don't think that because Deb had parking problems up North that I should lower my standards in Southern Pines.

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Toda 1 year, 9 months ago

Here ~ here theone...

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RmeMP 1 year, 9 months ago

What makes you think that living here is better? Especially when people like you and Toda love nothing more then slamming "yankees"? Did it ever occur to you, that the reason people move here is because it is cheaper to live in this area?

Want to know its cheaper to live here? Because its NOT better :)

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Arestorer 1 year, 9 months ago

Whats wrong Rm?? Did someone hurt your wittle feelings???

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Toda 1 year, 9 months ago

"What makes you think that living here is better?" Well matter-of-fact living here is better, that's one reason for the migration from the north and south of the Mason Dixon line. We even have northerners who moved to Florida and moved to NC. My dad was from Pennsylvania. Never did he once say, "well this is how we did it in PA". Those who moved here want to change our way of life to reflect how they did it in New Jersey, New York, etc....for those people who don't like our way of life and want change...go back to where you came from and then the changes are already in place...look at what has happened to Pinehurst.

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RmeMP 1 year, 9 months ago

That's a strange response Toda, because aren't you an Obama supporter? The reason I ask is because you seem to be hell bent against change, yet if I'm not mistaken you support the man who is fundamentally changing our country.

Either way... Living here can be nice, but when people like you constantly slam implants - it appears contradictive.

You are also a huge illegal immagrant supporter, but yet you disapprove of yankees moving down... Interesting, you seem to not be able to pick a stance and stick with it :)

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Toda 1 year, 9 months ago

No ~ I don't support anyone in public office...I really dislike people taking stances against a man who was handed the worst economy since the Great Depression by GWB whose tax breaks for the most wealthy in America is still in effect creating an unmanageable economy. Read my other post on the founder of Starbucks. Our country started to change when GWB took office on a hanging chad.

Living here was nice until the Diamond Head Corporation and their 3 days and 2 night golf packages to sell off Pinehurst. I don't slam all implants except people like TEA Dee Parks and the rest of the "I'm better than you mentality". What really ticks me off is when they equate North Carolinian's with ignorant southerners. Last trip to the north to visit relatives, I was asked if we still have moonshine stills and outdoor toilets. There is no cure for stupid. They forget about coming to Duke and Chapel Hill for medical treatment (Edward Kennedy).

This may be a surprise to many, I am not a racist. I believe we are all of the Human Race. I have worked with Hispanics in my former construction business. I liked everyone I came in contact with while working on my projects. I have built houses for some transplants who were arrogant, egotistical, sophisticated, conceited, better than southerners, and thought no one should earn a living other than them. I liked those working in the hot and cold weather from Mexico and Honduras, much more than the plastic personalities from the north. I'm certain about my comments and feelings toward others...no contradictions here.

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debsalomon 1 year, 9 months ago

I surrender, I surrender, in a convulsion of puzzled laughter. I try to emphasize the positive, count my blessings, look at the big picture...and still get skewered. You guys sort it out yourselves. Let me know when you've solved the world's problems. I've got to drop off a few things downtown.....

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Toda 1 year, 9 months ago

Now ~ now Deb...we're not talking about the world problems here, just the illogical proposal to have patrons back into parking spaces. That is "lamebrain" to say the least. Most are making light of the fact that too many retirees can't drive straight much less back into a space. SP Blue will have more accidents than Pinehurst has on any given day at the circle. The Pilot might want to rethink what is news and what is comedy.

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debsalomon 1 year, 9 months ago

And then there are people way past retirement age...like me...who still work, walk, jog, shop, ride a bike and drive quite well, especially with the experience gained on icy roads, in snowstorms and other adverse conditions not present in this beautiful Brigadoon. Do not assume that all people of retirement age cannot back into a parking space. Generalizations do not become you.

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Toda 1 year, 9 months ago

Oh ~ but Deb, perhaps you are the exception. Drive through Pinehurst and observe the line-to-line bounce by silver hairs. Avoid the traffic circle, it could be hazardous to your fenders. Since most of us stay home during adverse weather, those driving skills are not necessary here in Gods' Country.

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FightFireWithFire 1 year, 9 months ago

Some things never change....LOL!!

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HillTopper 1 year, 9 months ago

emb6683 ... dead on. They ride in "packs". Think they own the road. I still say this smells of special interest. I think I remember reading an article a while back that our city attorney was a bicycle enthusiast ??? See what I mean? All about the bikes! Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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Arestorer 1 year, 9 months ago

Find the people in NCDOT that said we had to remove the trees on US1 for safety reasons,maybe they can remove the bikes from our streets for the same reasons.. I got no problem with bikes on downtown streets...They need to remember they are also vehicles and must obey the same traffic laws.. But dont forget physics when they think they have the right-of-way..

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emb6683 1 year, 9 months ago

"He was right - dead right - as he pedaled along. But he was just as dead as if he'd been wrong!"

This whole initiative is nothing but about bicycle riders, it has no advantages for motorists. No increase to number of spaces available; back in, back out, you still have to back sometime; harder access to the trunk or tailgate to secure items

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Sean 1 year, 9 months ago

I actually think it is a good idea. You gotta back either in or out, so why not back in out of traffic, instead of backing out into traffic. I don't think it will slow things up any more, I don't think that is possible.

Honestly - long term view, I think the blocks between New Hampshire and New York should be pedestrian and bicycle only on the post office side. Block it to motorized traffic. Do the road in reclaimed brick, put some benches out.

Flame away!!

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RmeMP 1 year, 9 months ago

Whoa, whoa, whoa, your common sense is showing :)

Unfortunitly some people around don't realize the common sense in your post, and are simply against anything changing around here.

Yes, it makes sense to back into an empty spot instead of backing almost blindly into oncoming traffic.

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Arestorer 1 year, 9 months ago

If people really used common sense,,there would be no reason for traffic signs or lines in the road.. This world is full of dummies...

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Arestorer 1 year, 9 months ago

PAVE PARADISE, AND PUT UP A PARKING LOT !!!!!!!

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mcg2010 1 year, 9 months ago

Just park in the lot behind the Sunrise Theater and be done with it.

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teufelhunden 1 year, 9 months ago

Yeah really, mcg2010! Much ado about nothing...

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geoffcutler 1 year, 9 months ago

Too often, driving down Broad, I must stop while somebody tries to parallel park. As successive attempts are made, sometimes ones that bounce up on the curb, or gently crunch the bumper of the car behind, I am reminded of Ignatius J. Reilly in the opening scene of "A Confederacy of Dunces" by John Kennedy Toole. It is then that I begin to chuckle, to belly laugh, and finally choke with hysteria at the slapstick comedy going on in the road in front of me. I think of putting it in park, running into the Sunrise for some popcorn and Coke to enjoy the rest of the show. More often than not, the would-be and intrepid parallel parker finally gives up in embarrassed mortification and goes to look for a spot where he/usually she (sorry) can pull straight into the space. Reversing into parking spots on Broad Street? Oh...this should be rich!

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debsalomon 1 year, 9 months ago

As I scan these comments I am encouraged. Nobody bashed Obama, nobody railed on taxes or Michele Bachmann's Newsweek cover shot. I guess when the subject is REALLY important, like angle parking, folks can stick to it.

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HillTopper 1 year, 9 months ago

You forgot about the "special interest" ... All about the bikes. Needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many. Suppose to be the other way around. And I don't like Obama, taxes are killing me and I didn't see the Newsweek cover. But, Bachmann's a flash in the pan anyway.

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HillTopper 1 year, 9 months ago

And I still can't figure out why it cost $1,000,000 to install 3 1/2 miles of guardrail on US 1???????? Maybe because the dollar isn't worth anything ... that it?

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Toda 1 year, 9 months ago

One only has to read The Pilot when the new double lane was built for Open traffic. The contractor was awarded a cool million to finish the section between Jonesboro and Lakeview; ironically, all the traffic coming from Raleigh was directed to take the Carthage exit to bus shuttles to the Open. Figure that one out???

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smarti 1 year, 9 months ago

As often happens, I have to agree with Toda's comment from a few short hours ago. I'm not a fan of the "northern experience" he speaks of. This is not the north. The new parking will be cute and fun till the new wears off. Good luck trying to back INTO a parking lot with someone running right up your butt, same as when you are trying to back OUT of the parking in front of the post office. Cars flying all around, speed limit a foreign thought to them, meanwhile you are crane necking backwards around the dually or SUV parked beside you and people fly right past you in a blur, blowing the horn because you are so stupid you don't SEE them. Yeah, good luck with that new parking. And yes, I have told the SP police that they would be well served monitarily to sit and write tickets near the post office area instead of the little blind spots where they hide behind large bushes waiting to nail us as we come around curves or over crests in the road. Just a thought...By the way, nice "digitally altered" picture of the new parking, Pilot. I can be anything I want to be if my pic is digitally altered.

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smarti 1 year, 9 months ago

Oh, and theonewithsense....

"Has it ever occurred to you that maybe the reason you moved from the North was because living is better here? I don't think that because Deb had parking problems up North that I should lower my standards in Southern Pines." I think I have told you this before, but it's worth repeating--You are my hero.

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debsalomon 1 year, 9 months ago

Since misreading/misinterpretation seems the norm...may I clarify? The same traffic/parking issues exist in Atlanta, Charlotte and other Southern metropoli....so Boston, Philly and New York aren't the point. My point, again, is that while nothing is or ever will be perfect, the FREE downtown parking in Southern Pines is a soaring improvement over any city where drivers must deal with meters and expensive lots. As for silver-fox bashing....careful. There is power in numbers. Blue-haired grannies driving Escalades also spend greenbacks, which downtown merchants aren't refusing. So let's show a modicum of respect and, above all, common sense..

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Flabbergasted 1 year, 9 months ago

We understood your point the first time, second time and now the third time. We know your point was that its FREE parking. There was no misreading/misinterpretation. We know your trying to spin a positive on a negative. Many kudos. We all are grateful. No one has argued against your FREE point and having to deal with meters. Give some credit before judging. There is no advantage to this ridiculous decision. If im backed in properly, and there is a dually or any large SUV parked on my right, im still not going to be able to see the oncoming traffic for me to pull safely out onto the street. This doesn't take care of blind spots. I, of course, will be doing exactly what you suggested. Parking on a side street and walking. I will not become one of the statistics.

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