A Few Bothersome Tea Party Concerns

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I am personally acquainted with some local tea partiers. I share some of their sense of alarm, and I respect their willingness to get off their duffs and make their feelings known so publicly.

Still, there are a few specific things that bug me about the whole tea party thing in general. Allow me to get them off my chest:

First of all, we in the (shudder!) mainstream media never know how to handle the name of the movement. Grammatically, I mean.

According to the dictionary, a party is either “an organized political group which seeks to elect its candidates to office and thus to direct government policies” or “a gathering for social entertainment.” This thing is neither, though it has elements of both. So we in the media have fits figuring out how to apply the term in our news accounts.

It’s just a coincidence that the movement has the word “party” in it, but we’re not talking about a party in the traditional sense, as in Republican, Democratic or Whig Party. That’s why The Associated Press Stylebook, our bible on such matters, has decreed that “tea party” is not capitalized. Still, it looks funny that way, used as a common noun.

There’s also the matter of what to call members of said movement. Most of us have pretty much settled on “tea partiers,” though I tend to think it should be hyphenated. Whatever you do, don’t call them “teabaggers.” They’re very sensitive about that.

Here’s the second thing that bugs me: Tea partiers complain about not being taken seriously, yet they go around wearing funny hats and holding up kooky signs.

If you want to be taken seriously, isn’t it generally best not to show up at a rally in a silly Revolutionary War ­costume or a hat that has tea bags ­dangling from the rim? Or to hold up signs reading “Shut ’Er Down” or ­making President Obama look like the Joker from a Batman movie?

Third, tea-partiers constantly portray themselves as representing the American people, but who says they do any such thing?

After the movement flared up in the summer of 2009 in opposition to the Obama administration’s health care plan, tea partiers and their sympathizers were always asserting (and sometimes writing on these pages) that “the American people [as embodied in the rallies] have said loud and clear that they don’t want Obamacare shoved down their throats,” or whatever.

Yet every credible public-opinion ­survey I have seen indicates that maybe 20 to 25 percent of the U.S. ­public identifies with or supports the tea party movement. That sounds more like a distinct, noisy minority.

Fourth: I’m glad the tea party Republicans have discovered the Constitution. But where was their sense of outrage when the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld administration was trampling all over it?

They are right to be alarmed about deficit spending, too. But I don’t remember hearing a peep out of them while the previous administration, which had inherited a budget surplus from Bill Clinton, was spending all those years running us into the ground by fighting two costly wars while simultaneously cutting taxes.

The fifth and main problem I’ve had with the movement from the beginning has to do with the troubling implications involved in the choice of the very term “tea party.”

Why do the tea partiers call themselves that? Obviously because they like the connection with the Boston Tea Party, a precursor to the American Revolution. That, along with the Founding Fathers regalia, strongly ­suggests (heck, many of them come right out and say it) that they’re itching for another American Revolution, presumably involving the overthrow of the Obama administration.

But wait. The real Founding Fathers fought the original Revolution to set up a new system of government free from the arbitrary control of an unelected monarch who imposed taxation without representation. Our current government was elected by the people under the very constitutional system those Founders so wisely established. And the only kind of taxes it can impose are those that are voted on with representation.

In all seriousness, I don’t believe the tea partiers are really talking about overthrowing our duly elected government, since that would be treason and advocating it would amount to sedition. If they were talking about that, they would have to accomplish their purpose over the bodies of a lot of other patriotic American citizens, including mine.

If they’re not talking about that, why flirt with such inflammatory terminology?

I’m just sayin’.

Steve Bouser is editor of The Pilot. Contact him at (910) 693-2470 or by e-mail at sbouser@thepilot.com.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Mr. Bauser, that was the best piece I have read regarding the Tea Parties. Bravo!! Before Obama was evan sworn in, one of my co-workers had the "I Wan't My Country Back" bumber sticker. Back from what I asked, and he used that "N-word" along with Socialist, Communist, and Muslim, who stole the election. I have since asked him if he was willing to give up his Medicare, or Social Security. I cannot print what he said, but rest assured it was not sure I'll gladly give that up. Also I asked him about his taxes, guess what? That damn Socialist and Commie lowered them. Go figure.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Back from what I asked, and he used that "N-word" along with Socialist, Communist, and Muslim, who stole the election.

Nope, no racism in the Tea Party, no siree.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

I'm certain there are some racists in the TEA Party.

I'd wager there are many more racists on both the "mainstream" right and left.

If you had to guess, how many people voted against President Obama simply because he is black? How many people would you say voted for Obama simply because he is black? A racist vote in support a candidate counts just as much as a racist vote against the candidate. Both are ugly and run counter to the principles of this great nation. It's just easier to dress one of those votes up as progress or empowerment or payback or whatever noble cause helps the misguided voter sleep at night.

The elitist university leftist who feels a degree of relief from the sins of his father by voting yes is no better than the toothless redneck screaming the n-word as he votes no. I give the latter more credit--at least he is more willing to acknowledge he is a racist.

But it's easier, I guess, for the left to pick a sound byte from a random nutjob and grab the broad brush.

That's lazy. And dishonest. That type of rhetoric accomplishes nothing of value. It only moves us farther away from where we need to be.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

You believe BIgGuy on a blog. Probably because his comment supports your preconceived notion of people. No that cannot be right because that might make you a bigot, and we know that could not be true.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

It sounds to me as if your place of business hires the dregs of society. Is that normal practice for all employees, or are you the sole enlightened worker in an otherwise dark pit of blatant racism and despair?

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Said employee is one of those dear retired folks down here who are supplementing thier Social Security checks by working part time. Who has had a three operations, I'm sure he paid for that out his own pocket. None of that damn Government Medicare.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Behan-- It is even more simple than that. Bigguy is obviously a liberal, given his sarcastic comments about the "Socialist" and "Commie" Obama lowering taxes. Having said that, I find it hard to believe that a co-worker would actually say "I want my country back...from an 'N-word...Socialist, Communist, and Muslim, who stole the election." (Unless Bigguy works with the White Supremacy Society as an ammunition stacker.). Bottom line: it is absurd. Yet Dusty, as usual, jumps all over it. Hilarious.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

I am surprised that Bouser is not familiar with "The Boston Tea Party,'' which is the influence for the modern day Tea Party. Steve was alive when the original event happened ! I hope this is not just genuine ignorance on Bouser's part. I hope this is just more "shading the truth" marxist spin we have all become accustomed to on the barely-readable editorial page of this paper.

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OldPilot 2 years, 1 month ago

Good column. Well said.

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dustyrhoades 2 years, 1 month ago

Tea partiers complain about not being taken seriously, yet they go around wearing funny hats and holding up kooky signs. If you want to be taken seriously, isn’t it generally best not to show up at a rally in a silly Revolutionary War ­costume or a hat that has tea bags ­dangling from the rim? Or to hold up signs reading “Shut ’Er Down” or ­making President Obama look like the Joker from a Batman movie?

They've adopted some of the sillier tactics of the actual Left, who they claim to despise.

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SH59 2 years, 1 month ago

You brought up a good point wondering why the republicans weren't upset with the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld administration. They may have actually been upset but didn't want to say anything against their party. Finally when Obama came along they were able to unload all their frustrations on him and and the Democrats. Obviously Republicans were unhappy with the Bush administration since a majority of this country did vote for Obama.

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dustyrhoades 2 years, 1 month ago

They may have actually been upset but didn't want to say anything against their party.

There's a lot of sense in that idea. Of course, it makes the TPers claim to be non-partisan and 'just concerned about America's future" sound pretty disingenuous.

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Behan 2 years, 1 month ago

(Part 1) Pardon the oversimplification:

I like to think of the left/right/TEA issue as such: The U.S. is a giant NC public school bus on a class trip to NY, only we’ve been heading south instead of north.

The left wing refuses to turn around and instead points out that it was the right wing that started out headed south. They recognize they are probably headed in the wrong direction, but they simply don’t care. It is their turn to drive, and even if they are headed south instead of north, they are putting the pedal to the floor. The main thing is—they don’t want to let the right wing drive.

The right wing is screaming that it is their turn to drive again. They insist the left wing is headed in the wrong direction, and if the left would only let them drive, they could turn the bus around and head north like we should have done all along. But we all know that even if the right wing gets behind the wheel, they’ll only do a slight dogleg before they are headed south again. They drove south for a good portion of the trip, so there is no reason to believe they’ll change directions now.

The TEA Party is the first real attempt (at least in my lifetime) by some of the normally quiet passengers to insist both sides take a break and let someone else drive for a while. They certainly do not have all the answers, and they may very well drive northeast instead of true north, but at least it is an attempt to stop heading further south. Of course the right has tried to adopt them (mostly due to their mutual dislike for the left), but the “true” TEA Party has gone out of its way to point out an equal contempt for the right.

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Behan 2 years, 1 month ago

(Part 2)

I, for one, would find it somewhat refreshing for some of the left-leaning passengers to come up with their own platform to head north—even if it takes us slightly northwest. Instead, they seem content to rock back and forth in their bus seats mumbling over and over, “Bush started driving south, Bush started driving south.”

Blaming Bush, Palin, or the Easter Bunny will not get us back on track. I always considered myself a conservative, and I refuse to defend the last administration. You can insist Bush messed things up and brace for a fight—you will not get one. I will nod and mostly agree. My guy was a moron, but so is yours. I can admit mine was a dolt. Can you admit yours is an idiot?

And, if so, what do we do now?

I understand the left wants to wait until its turn is over before we head north—they’ll shout, “Where were you when we went south through Georgia? Huh? Huh? You didn’t want to turn around then!" But that won't work either. By then, some of the guys from my team will be driving, and the guys on my team will only say the same thing. Meanwhile, we are only a few miles outside of Key West and gaining speed.

I think some TEA Party ideas are pretty ingenious. I think some are a bit nutty. Regardless, I applaud their efforts to shake things up and slow the bus. At least they recognize our situation and the need for some type of different action. If you don’t like the route they’ve selected, pick a new one and let us know—it might be the best path to follow. I won't dismiss it out of hand simply because it came from the left side or right side of the bus. But directing blind jabs at the TEA Party, painting them all as Nazis, hillbillies, racists, and lunatics simply for wanting off the bus doesn't do anyone any favors.

Just my overly simple take on things.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

That was a spot-on, perfect analogy. Thank you, Behan!

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Thanks for the kind words. Hopefully an actual TEA Party spokesperson (or member, at least) will stop by to offer some insight.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

How about this for an official spokesperson---Behan you are a turd!!!

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

You must be talking about TEA DEE Parks. She only comes out on Holloween, or when Senator Kay Hagan is 20 minutes late to speak to her group of misfits. You Tube video is a must see. Senator Hagan was at Womack Army Hospital visiting our wounded warriors and was 20 minutes late, and TEE Dee used that opportunity to spout off.

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Behan 2 years, 1 month ago

Thank you, sir. Just doing my little part to inject a bit of sanity into the void.

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Ross 2 years, 1 month ago

Jimmie - seems we need another bus driver.........how about we both split shifts - then I can get us back on track when you get lost :)

Behan - I have seen that picture you use - and believe he is an actor - I just can't place him. Any help?

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Behan 2 years, 1 month ago

Brendan Behan--author, playwright, poet.

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JimHeim 2 years, 1 month ago

Poor analogy. A better one would be having the Bush administration push a large boulder down a steep hill. Gonna be tricky turning that sucker around, and it won't be quick.

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Behan 2 years, 1 month ago

Or this:

Economy : Moore County Democratic Party Headquarters :: Barack Obama : Jim Heim.

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JimHeim 2 years, 1 month ago

I guess you won't be missing any MENSA meetings.

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Behan 2 years, 1 month ago

I guess Dr. Behan might as well call the discussion right here.

Time of death: 1:09 PM.

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JimHeim 2 years, 1 month ago

Well, I'm trying to figure it out. Since I exist and the MCDP headquarters does not, it makes no sense. Enlighten me.

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Behan 2 years, 1 month ago

As for the usage/style issue, I recommend treating it as such:

TEA is an acronym, and should be spelled in all caps, no punctuation.

The TEA Party considers itself an official party--so I will afford them that much and refer to it as the "TEA Party." That doesn't indicate any level of support, but treating it with a degree of consistency removes any indicators of unfair bias.

I think you know why the term "teabagger" is deemed offensive--I won't bother going any further in an otherwise family-friendly newspaper. I would use "TEA Party member" or some variation thereof.

I would never hyphenate TEA Party, even when used as unit modifier. It would be grammatically incorrect and look horribly awkward.

It should be noted I am not a member of the TEA Party, so I most certainly am not a spokesperson. The aforementioned merely reflects my apolitical, editorial take on the grammar challenges you presented.

An actual spokesperson or member may provide a different, "official" take on the issue.

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Behan 2 years, 1 month ago

Wow. Was the bus analogy that complex? I figured a guy usind the Dead logo as an avatar would embrace that one.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Bravo Mr. Bouser ~ you hit the proverbial nail on the head. Wherever there is a party, usually there are NUTS. You have Peanuts and TEA Nuts. I cannot understand why they didn't take the country back from Halliburton who was working in concert with Tricky Dickey Cheney. Now the TEA Nuts focus on the Obama Administration who hasn't receive a kickback from Halliburton. Listen to the silence of those who want to take our country back from the Chinese - I think? Maybe the Germans; or could it be from poor middleclass Americans' who pay most of the tax burden.

My hats off to you Mr. Bouser and next time our paths cross, I have a handshake for you!

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

I honestly cannot understand most of what you wrote.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

I'm not talking about "buses" going north. FYI, the Chinese hold over a trillion dollars in notes. Here in Poorer County, the Japanese own Pinewild and the Germans own Woodlake. I can understand that an intellectual like you doesn't get out much in the real world. Have you not attended parties where NUTS wasn't served; the, [T]he [E]listist and [A]ffluent, TEA Party serve up mixed nuts on a regular basis mostly with funny costumes and hats. Any other questions Behan?

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

But OBAMANATION has received kickbacks from GE, and how much did GE pay in taxes

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

I think he wants to shake Mr. Bouser's hand for some reason.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

For the uninformed and intellectually challenged, Mr. Bouser and I attend the same church and our paths cross ever so oftain before services. He and his wife, Brenda, are both christians and lay readers of scripture. Mr. Bouser sings in our choir and has a beautiful voice, I might add. So James, layoff with your smart remarks that have no merit. I'm game anytime and enjoy doing verbal exchanges with you or anyone else on here. And by the way, my letters to the editor have been rejected just like everyone else from time to time.

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Behan 2 years, 1 month ago

Thanks for the brilliant insight, Beavis.

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hotdiggity 2 years, 1 month ago

Bill Clinton's budget surplus for the Year 2000 was $230 Billion. The deficit for the Month of Feb. 2011 alone was $223 Billion. And that was before President Obama started his war.

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Behan 2 years, 1 month ago

I won't race to flag them. They speak volumes of the leftist mindset.

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JimHeim 2 years, 1 month ago

The amazing thing about the tea party is how the guys funding it have distorted the issues and conned the sheeple parading around under their banner. They are outraged about taxes at their lowest levels in generations. They rant about deficits brought about by their own politicians, and in any event, don't realize that the current deficit is a symptom of bad tax policy and a stalled economy, not a problem in its own right. The built-in contradictions in their philosophy are already having an effect. This year's tax day demonstrations were markedly smaller than those of previous years. They offer nothing more than a vision of returning to the days when this country was small, agrarian and relied on horse-drawn carriages on dirt roads. No thanks. I'd rather live in the world's richest, most technologically advanced country,and I'm willing to pay for the privilege.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Not really, no. Acronyms tend to stand alone.

Besides, your terms are only slightly less mature than poopyface and stupidhead. Are you really this juvenile? Are you really the best that Moore County liberals could come up with to represent their interests?

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

No ~ I am Behan...Whatever your definition of a liberal might be in your analytical mind. As the alter ego in me says, bring our troops home and cut the DOD budget by one half, yep, call me a conservative. Or better yet, think of me as an independent who thinks and considers issues before casting my vote as opposed to the Indiana voting style of most in Poorer County republicans who are led by the blind and vote accordingly. Stupidhead is a goodone for second grade children on the playground. Well...some intellectually challenged adults as well.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

I'm not gonna lie to you, Toda--your posts confuse the bejeezus out me.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

"I won't dismiss it out of hand simply because it came from the left side or right side of the bus." I understand Behan. I try to trim down my remarks as opposed to having several "parts" to a fictional short story. ;-)"

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

It's not the size, Toda--it's the content.

Sarcasm is a tricky thing. If you don't really have the skill, it should be avoided at all costs. It seems as though you try to inject sarcasm into all your posts, but it only serves to distort your message. I can'ty respond to you if I cannot understand what it is you are trying to say.

And no, I'm not being sarcastic when I say I just don't get it. For example, what is the point of the 10:04 AM message, in plain English? I'm not particularly bright--so I need you to break it down real simple-like.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Which statement are you having a problem understanding. The DOD sucks out 17% of the entire national budget. Start cutting the military retirement direct deposits, like the retired Generals who receive about 3 K a month. BTW: a k is 1024 if you didn't know....

What has buses and "or the Easter Bunny will not get us back on track." have to do with The Elitists and Affluent? Not really sarcasm on your part, just confusing colloquialisms and phraseology. "I understand the left wants to wait until its turn is over before we head north—they’ll shout, “Where were you when we went south through Georgia? Huh? Huh? HUH! so what are you talking about in this diatribe. Try shorting your insipid ranting so the common people might try to understand your points of inspirational conjecture.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

They confuse him too Behan. Cut the Defense budget to zero and Obama still has an $800B deficit.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

I understand mauiman each time I mention cutting retiree benefits or Social Security and Medicaid for the The TEA Nuts, I ruffle your feathers. Where my articulate foe, did such a learned retiree read where I said, "Cut the Defense budget to zero? Yes, George and his partner in crime, Tricky Dicky Cheney left POTUS'O with a unprecedented - historical budget deficit teetering on the brink of financial collapse and a couple of wars. Perhaps Sarah Palin would have been the better choice, she could have flaunted her way into national recovery.

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Bigguy 2 years, 1 month ago

Just to let you know, Bigguy works for a local countryclub . Can say I'm liberal, not asamed of that label. Used to have a few drinks with ol' Dusty Rhodes back in our much younger days. I will stand behind the bumber sticker comment!! Still see the employee with the "I wan't My Country Back" bumber sticker. I can appreciate his right to free speech, I will defend that to the day I die. Did not say I have to like or understand his hatred.

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Behan 2 years, 1 month ago

I must apologize, fellas, but I'll have to bow out of the discussions for a while. This forum is a pleasant distraction when there is a brief lull at work, but the lull is over.

It's been nice chatting with you all--hopefully none took offense--it was not really the intent. I guess it is good for all to blow off some steam and shake out the gray matter now and again.

Till next time!

Slainte, Behan

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JimHeim 2 years, 1 month ago

Maybe someone can explain how Reagan raised taxes eleven times and is a TPer saint, while Obama has cut taxes and is Satan's spawn.

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moonchild7 2 years, 1 month ago

Mr. Heim I think it's a rather simple explanation and while you might not like it, along with many others it's called: "THE WHITEY MENTALITY"....plain and simple. I've been going thru several boxes of things of my mother's since her passing and I came across a "DEMOCRATS FOR REAGAN" bumper sticker. My Mom and EVERYONE in my family had always been democrats, until REAGAN. Cowboy to the rescue! Hollywood to the rescue, old white man to the rescue. The world was changing very fast for "The Greatest Generation" Women, minorities, and gays were begining to have to be treated like HUMAN BEINGS for once. FREEDOM and LIBERTY was at hand finally for everyone. But they were scared. Whitey was scared. Belive me I know, I had to live with them. I never bought into their fears or prejudices so to say the least my relationship with my family was a little rough. So, I prefer to call them TEAPOTS since it's so similar to CRACKPOTS. Those much older family members of mine have all passed away now, so I can't have any "Hippie vs TEAPOT" arguments. Maybe you guys have become my surrogate "debate family." Thanks.

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JimHeim 2 years, 1 month ago

Okay, try this. The Ryan plan increases the cost of Medicare and transfers the savings to the rich resulting in a $6 trillion increase in the national debt over the next ten years. Where is the TPer outrage?

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JimHeim 2 years, 1 month ago

James, Why are you hanging that Whitey Mentality remark on me? I had nothing to do with it. Are you capable of maintaining a train of thought. Is an intervention in order?

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madstork 2 years, 1 month ago

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JimHeim 2 years, 1 month ago

Wow! A two-fer.

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moonchild7 2 years, 1 month ago

Listen, I hate to use the term but it's the TRUTH!!!!! I lived with those people and they hated anything DIFFERENT. It was an entire mindset and it was set in stone. White people who only had white friends. White people who wouldn't be seen talking to anyone "different". Scarey. When I graduated from HS and turned 18, I was gone! It was ugly and real though and they were very intrenched. Reagan and his henchmen stoked the fires of fear into that generation of people. Especially the blue-collar working class and sadder to say it was so easy. The TEAPOTS are trying to bring it back but are having limited success. There's just been too much PROGRESSION to go all the way back to THOSE TIMES. Paul Ryan was booed at his own town hall meeting. NICE.

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JimHeim 2 years, 1 month ago

I guess Fox News didn't cover that. How about the $30 trillion ($100,000 per person) that will be added to the cost of Medicare equivalent policies. Did they mention that? Did they tell how we're supposed to reduce the deficit with Ryan's $2.9 trillion tax cut for rich folks? I'll go with no.

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JimHeim 2 years, 1 month ago

The math isn't difficult. The federal deficit is currently running over $1.2 trillion per year. Ryan claims to reduce that amount by about $5 trillion over ten years. Subtract $5 trillion from $12 trillion and you get the amount that the national debt would increase under his plan. Subject to rounding errors of course. In fact, the GOP budget plan would not balance until 2040. You folks must be very patient.

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JimHeim 2 years, 1 month ago

ACORN does not exist. You need to get out more.

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JimHeim 2 years, 1 month ago

If the group changed its name then ACORN does not exist and my original point stands.

Also, the Federal Radio Commission and the Atomic Energy Commission do not exist.

And they weren't caught. They were sabotaged with a fake video. Big difference.

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JimHeim 2 years, 1 month ago

So you've established that Al Sharpton exists. ACORN still doesn't,.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Mr. Bouser (Part 1)

Seems as though Behan did a mighty fine job of clearing up the trouble you were having with your first point. If you follow his advice, you’ll be just fine.

On to your second concern. I know you could’ve answered these questions on your own- you are so very close. Let me see if I can lead you there. If you were judging a Dolly Parton look-alike contest and one contestant was wearing a black wig, who would you see? Not that they would ‘win’, but who do you think EVERYONE would be talking about? When was the last time Code Pink went anywhere in khaki and sat quietly? How about those always politically correct and demure union workers with their very polite signs? (Try Hot Air- Huffpo cleaned theirs up.) Do you see now? When a person wants to be noticed and heard, they generally use the biggest ‘megaphone’ available to them- just like you.

Next, are TEA Party members not Americans? We DO represent a significant number of Americans. A recent article in Huffpo (3/30/11) claimed “Tea Party Favorability Declines”. They claimed we were down five points from December- to just 32%. There’s quite a big difference between your 20-25% and this CNN poll. Hmmm. But for the sake of argument, let’s use your numbers. Let’s see, what’s less than 20%? Hispanic/Latino 16.3%, Black/African American- 12.8%, Asian- 4.8%, American Indian/Alaskan Native- .9%, Others 6.2%. (U.S. Census Bureau, National Population by Race, 2010). Newspaper editors- .00001%. I just made up that last part. LOL There probably aren’t 3 million of you. Altogether, I think all minorities (minus ‘others’) add up to 34.8%. This is where you are supposed to notice that “a distinct, noisy minority” takes on new meaning. N'est ce pas?

Oh, and I’m using Huffpo stuff because I thought you might be familiar with it and would appreciate their point of view- more so than FOX anyway.

Fourth: Where were YOU when Lincoln was President? The same place WE were when “blah, blah, blah” …. Unborn!

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

What a condescending - arrogant writer wannabe. Lets look carefully at your statement, "There probably aren’t 3 million of you. Altogether". Apparently the word "circulation" doesn't impact your media savvy to any extent. According to your armchair analysis "POTUS'O" shouldn't have won the election. Unlike George W. Bush who won by default ~ by a majority of the US Supreme Court. So much for the separation of Judiciary from the Executive branch. Obviously you are a fan of Rush "drug-in-the -head" Limbaugh. Another emotionally skewed mind who has a narrow grasp on history. Try taking a Civics class, that may help you to understand government a little better. Or a National Government class might do as well. blah, blah, blah....

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Mr Bouser: (Part 2)

Fifth: Again, you are SO close to answering our own question, I am proud of you. See here: “The real Founding Fathers fought the original Revolution to set up a new system of government free from the arbitrary control of an unelected monarch who imposed taxation without representation.” WOW. You got it! “The real Tea Party is fighting a new revolution to reset our system of government and free it from arbitrary control of elected and/or unelected disingenuous, unscrupulous power grabbing politicians and others who are imposing taxation and other things without proper representation. They are antidisestablishconstitutionalists.

The Boston Tea Party helped set that revolution in motion and we DO identify with that movement. We were originally a group that came about because of volley after volley of unconstitutional moves by the current administration to tax the very air we breathe. Remember “Under my plan, electricity prices would necessarily skyrocket”, green energy, cash for clunkers, net neutrality (HA), Otraumacare, VAT tax? ALL these things-and plenty more- COST, and TAXES are the way they are and will be paid for. The Tea Party did not form BEFORE these things came about, we formed AFTER these and other threats.

Even though we have had an election, and of course a perfectly fair and unintimidating one, I’ve got to ask: Do YOU feel represented? REALLY? Is your voice heard ANYWHERE except in this newspaper? Do you have any concept of which powers were delegated to the federal government and which were forbidden to it? Do you have any idea what the Governor of this State is NOT doing for you because the FEDERAL government has stripped, or is poised to strip, your State and ALL of it’s people of almost every RIGHT granted by the Constitution? Do you understand that Obama is doing end runs around Congress and that there are at least 34 UNELECTED individuals in DC with Obama’s ear who are MAKING POLICY, SPENDING TAX MONEY, SUBVERTING THE JUDICIARY, deciding what you and your children WILL and will not eat, read, say, do, and have- and there is NOTHING you can do about it because you cannot holler LOUD enough to be heard on Capitol Hill! Your Town, your County, your State and your Courts and your Press are all supposed to be between ‘you and them’, ‘here and there’. Everything is being confiscated by the Feds- even your parental rights and your right to freely worship. Can’t you SEE that Obama and his DOJ are picking and choosing what ‘laws’ they will or won’t follow and/or enforce?

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

"“The real Tea Party is fighting a new revolution to reset our system of government and free it from arbitrary control of elected and/or unelected disingenuous, unscrupulous power grabbing politicians and others who are imposing taxation and other things without proper representation." So does that statement include Republicans as well who have enough "pork barrel" spending over the years to refer to them as Lobbyists little piglets?

No one feels represented by anyone who has a seat in Congress or the Senate. They are all bought and paid for through political packs: http://www.opensecrets.org

Have a look at the Republicans on the take and let's not leave out the Democrats either. We need term limits. So wise one, what does POTUS'O have to do with elected state representatives being bought out by PACS?

You throw statements out there without any reference to qualify your contemptuous remarks. "Can’t you SEE that Obama and his DOJ are picking and choosing what ‘laws’ they will or won’t follow and/or enforce? So you say! But that is a convoluted TEA Nut statement.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Mr Bouser (Part 3)

Now that I have responded to your concerns, please allow me to express some heartburn of my own. Are all Democrats pro-choice overpaid Union gangsters? All Republicans pro-life filthy rich shucksters? Do all Democrats believe we can hold back tsunamis and earthquakes by taxing the heck out of Americans or worshipping old wood? Are all Republicans self-righteous Bible banging proselytizers with guns? Of course not! But that is where the conversation is going these days with all these divisive politics. So if you take exception to any of the above, perhaps you would consider that Tea Party members can’t be put in a box all nice and tidy either. To be sure we have fewer Democrats than Republicans and Independents among us but it’s not because they aren’t welcome. We are as diverse as any group, the people in your church, school or grocery store. That’s where we came from and heck, that’s where we still ARE. We didn’t suddenly sprout. We are Americans who suddenly realized things have been unraveling for a LONG time and they are currently on fast-forward in the wrong direction. We have a desire to turn back to the sturdy foundation we were set upon. Many of us would rather forgo the arguments about whose fault it is and get down to the business of setting it right. We love America, like you do, we pledge our allegience to the USA and we “will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic”. What’s wrong with that? What’s wrong with Honoring our country?

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

"Americans who suddenly realized things have been unraveling for a LONG time and they are currently on fast-forward in the wrong direction. We have a desire to turn back to the sturdy foundation we were set upon"

Your analogy reflects a bias of Republican-isms targeting POTUS'O's efforts to reconstruct our nations economy. Why haven't the TEA Nuts risen to the occasion and taken our money back from Halliburton/Cheney? O' but they were Grand Old Party members. If you folks love this country so much, why wait until now, with this president to raise your silly signs and protest. What really irks my a$$ is when the TEA nuts have a pick-nick just a mile from lake Pinehurst where millions of Obama Stimulus money is being spent...not one word about the MCBC asking for and receiving stimulus funds. Could it be because those federal taxpayer funds benefited The Elitist and Affluent in Pinehurst? I think so. Now North Carolina is having a 3.2 Billion dollar shortfall for education, and the TEA Nuts can receive credit for that one. Now GOP George is asking for millions for SCC. Hey where are the TEA Nuts and their check books? NO NEW TAXES OR FUNDS, reduce spending....

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Huh? Please, man, try to FOCUS!

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

If we DON'T honor our country, no one else will either.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Okay ~ so what's your point? Honoring our country should start by relieving the sold out crowd in Washington who hold elected positions starting with Howard Coble. Bought out by the beer and wine industry for all those Sunday Morning Christians who have a disdain for alcohol use.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Toda, PLEASE! Shakes by shoulders FOCUS! And try AGAIN to figure out the point of that statement. Concern furrows brow...

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moonchild7 2 years, 1 month ago

"The real TP is fighting a new revolution to reset our system of government and free it from arbitrary control elected and/or unelected...power grabbing polititians..." WOW. Do you have an UNREAL TeaParty? Because you sound a little confused to me. What was that "sturdy foundation we were set upon" made up of? Slavery? Segregation? Gays in closets? Women ironing clothes at home? You need to go back and read some current history, Oh and while you're at it, maybe you should "keep in touch" with your local/state ELECTED OFFICIALS as you are entitled to do and make sure they hear you and your concerns. If you don't like them, then vote them out. JUST LIKE WE DID IN 2008!

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melatr7 2 years, 1 month ago

If you are going to quote, please do not misquote. It makes you look dumb./ Yes, my TEA party IS unreal- in the most fabulous sense./ The sturdy foundation is the Constitution. Perhaps you should take a look at it. It does not provide for the things you suggest./ Current history? Would that be CURRENT history or current HISTORY? LOL LOL LOL / I am very 'in touch' with my elected oficials- and they are very 'in touch' with me- but thanks for the suggestion. / I (we) intend to.

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PeggySmetana 2 years, 1 month ago

Mr. Bouser, I am surprised at the things that bug you about the tea party. Why go into a definition of “party?” I’m sure that you know the name from the famous Boston Tea Party. A Revolutionary War outfit is clearly a reminder of the war for independence, our Constitution, our Declaration of Independence, and our inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for which our forefathers shed their blood. Tea party citizens work to restore a federal government limited by the Constitution, to restore the rights and liberties of the Constitution. We are willing to recognize that the Founders were a remarkable group of people, led by Divine Providence. You, as a newspaperman, must recognize that the Revolutionary War outfit gains media attention for our cause. I do not remember saying that we represent the American people. Many Americans, not just tea party members, dislike Obamacare. You ask why Republican tea party members didn’t cry out over the overspending by the Bush. We are very fortunate that Obama won the election. If McCain had won, we would have continued the slow movement towards a welfare state of government control and suppressed rights of the individual. The election of Obama and his swift actions woke us up. You are correct that we are working towards another American Resolution, a peaceful Revolution to Restore America to her founding principles and ideals.

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JimHeim 2 years, 1 month ago

Love the platitudes; how does this stuff work in the real world?

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geoffcutler 2 years, 1 month ago

Platitudes? There you have it, folks, from the leading Moore County Democrat. The Constitution, Declaration of Independence, that silly blurb about inalienable rights and life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...just platitudes... not fit for "the real world." Good argument, Jim, really telling.

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JimHeim 2 years, 1 month ago

TPers say they love the Constitution but never tell us what that means. It's easy to say, but the words are hollow. How that document is interpreted makes all the difference. What part of today's American government does not comport with the US Constitution?

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geoffcutler 2 years, 1 month ago

C'mon James... don't start! How about that spankin we got on the Carter gig? Ouch! That hurt.

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geoffcutler 2 years, 1 month ago

Come to think of it...I can't remember. Were you saying something?

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moonchild7 2 years, 1 month ago

What "RIGHTS" of yours are being suppressed? Why didn't GEORGE BUSH wake you up with WARZ, an UNFUNDED DRUG BILL, and TARP...to say the least? Resting comfortably in Republican Numbness? Plese help me with what you are saying, since the TEAPOTS don't speak in absolutes but in generalizations. What LIBERTIES are you missing? I haven't found any of mine to be missing, in fact they have expanded even more than in the past. And there's those "FOUNDING PRINCIPLES and IDEALS" again. Just for the record what are they exactly and where do you think they ran off too? Maybe I'll go out and see if I can find them for you.

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melatr7 2 years, 1 month ago

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melatr7 2 years, 1 month ago

Sorry Staff, that was out of character for me and it won't happen again.

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SnakeFlag1 2 years, 1 month ago

If McCain had won the election, the progressive Republicans would have taken us farther down the dead-end road to socialism. (It isn't a very long trip from where we are after 100 years of progressives.)

President Obama woke a sleeping giant.

Freedoms? Arizona wants to stop the illegal plague, so Obama sued them. Ask them if they feel free as Arizonians.

Before 1968, gun control laws prohibited you from owning a machine gun or sawed off barrel shotgun. THAT WAS IT! Now millions of innocent people can not protect their family in many states. Now we find out that criminals do not obey ANY gun laws.

Freedom of speech? That has recently been restricted to prevent you from hurting someone's feelings. ("Hate Speech...") Have you been to a National Park lately which has a little area beside the parking lot designated a First Amendment Free Speech Zone?

Sit down and make a list of thing that you can/t buy or sell because a regulation writer thinks it was too dangerous or unhealthy for you. In the old days, you decided for yourself.

FREE? If you are not free economically, you are a slave. Taxes consume a huge portion of your income, and you have no control over where YOUR MONEY is spent. Maybe half free is good enough for some people.

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melatr7 2 years, 1 month ago

Sorry I missed your reply...

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Mr Bouser, Your "Bothersome Concerns" about the Tea Party, may be coming from The Associated Press STYLEBOOK that you refered to as your bible, with a lower case "b". While The Tea Party uses The HOLY BIBLE with a capital "B". This would explain your annoying, troublesome and sometimes irksome writtings.

I'm just sayin'.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

You have got to be kidding me! "While The Tea Party uses The HOLY BIBLE with a capital "B"...so where is the help the poor and the needy? That part is the elimination of entitlements by TEA Nuts Republicans. Would you consider Christ to be a Liberal? Or a GOP Conservative? I think the latter. If the TEA Nuts were compassionate people like those of us who practice what we preach, they would embrace any opportunity to help those who have fallen on hard times. Wow ~ They even held Governor Bev Perdue hostage to more cuts or elimination of Extended Unemployment Benefits for those who have lost jobs due to congress taxing companies. Great Christian compassion for their fellow man who has fallen on hard times....

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Jesus asks his followers to help the poor. He never asked the government. Government help to the poor has entrapped them into dependance, the opposite of what Christians are called to do.

Government has been helping the poor now for decades on end, and they are the worse for it. When our neighbors are in need, we are the ones Jesus holds responsible for their care. Shifting that to the government is a cop-out, and it enables the powerful politicians to secure their own positions.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Precisely. Well said.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

"He never asked the government. Government help to the poor has entrapped them into dependence" and I agree with your statement in part. As long as the government can keep the populace poor and in dire need of the government, then the government has total control over the populace. I might add though, take a look at the preamble to the Constitution starting with...We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more "perfect" union,....We are the government or used to be until the Lobbyists took over with huge checks to the people we send to Washington....

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Toda-- When you ask whether Jesus would be a "Liberal" or a "GOP Conservative," and answer your own question by saying that He would be a "GOP Conservative," you miss the boat entirely. Jesus was neither. He was the Son of God. Period. Commanding His followers to feed and clothe the poor has nothing to do with the government, or paying taxes to the government so that the government can do it for us. Government welfare programs are an utter failure, and the programs have never solved or meaningfully addressed the problem of poverty. Why? First, the salaries of government employees (and the agency itself) are paid first out of every taxpayer dollar. Those government agencies then develop "programs" which do nothing to relieve poverty. Instead, the programs create dependency, with the poor being taught to depend on government handouts. "Great Christian compassion for their fellow man...", as you say, does not involve making the government the middle-man. Christians don't delegate their responsibilites to government. Last night at my church's Good Friday service, I played with a bunch of wonderful and precious homeless children who were staying several days and nights at the church (with their parents, mostly single mothers, looking on). It was a blessing! My church, and my church family, provide shelter, meals, and transportation for these families going through tough times (it is the Family Promise program). And LOTS of churches and congregations here in Moore County participate in this program. We did not need the government to tell us to do this...nor did we need the government to tell us how to do it pursuant to a "plan" developed in Washington, D.C. Christians don't do this for recognition, and we don't do it for you, for liberals, for conservatives, or for anyone else. We do it because it is part of our faith and it is what our Saviour requested that we do. Hope that helps.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Enjoyed your post James. Without love any works toward the poor and needy are empty, especially if forced. The Spirit filled Christian helps for Jesus's sake, and in His name.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Thank you. And I agree with you 100%. Happy Easter!

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

"He would be a "GOP Conservative," you miss the boat entirely" no you missed the "question" entirely. Can no one understand the difference in a question and a comment? "he programs create dependency, with the poor being taught to depend on government handouts." are you talking about Pavlov's theory of learned helplessness?? There are people in our society through no fault of their own have disabilities, medical issues, or are without medical care or employment. And yes I am fully aware that Christ is the Son of God. According to the TEA Nuts he would have been a liberal for helping the poor and healing the sick. The program you're referring to is the same as our church and it's called Family Promise: http://www.emmanuel-parish.org/outreach.html#familypromise

So what's your insight into the Pork Barrel spending over the years that has created this mess perpetrated by Washington politics? http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/2010/0819/Pork-barrel-spending-A-big-liability-for-lawmakers-in-2010-election

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Toda-- As best I can tell, you have two questions that you want me to answer. First, TEA party members would think Jesus Christ was a liberal. I don't speak for the TEA party or its members, but I suspect that many are Christian, some non-Christian. I can't speak for any of them. I can only speak for myself, which I did a few posts above. Second, what is my view on pork barrel spending. Abolish it forever. Here, I think you agree with me. Hope that helps.

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icecream 2 years, 1 month ago

Mr. Bouser, keep on writing your columns. I especially liked this one because I'm tired of the Tea Party bossing everyone around in the name of patriotism. I'm also tired of them proclaiming what the taxpayers of the US want or what they demanded in the last election. Some did and some didn't, and I definately didn't support the TeaBag positions and I'm a US citizen and taxpayer so don't tell me what I voted for. They need to understand that they are the not the majority, they're just a squeaky wheel. When the cuts come down on them, they'll be fussing about the things they're losing. They are after all, quite interested in getting what they want. The big picture for our country seems to only include them in their eyes!

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MooreNorth 2 years, 1 month ago

It seems to me Steve, what ever the tactics, or apparel, the TEA Party is very relevant, and effective. Otherwise they wouldn't get so much denigrating attention from liberals. Oh, and Tommy. What ever he is.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Thanks MooreNorth or NorthMoore which ever screen name you are using on this blog. I consider myself to be a Lib-Con. That seems to be an appropriate LABEL. Since republicans seem to like labels for everyone who doesn't have the same mindset or succumb their way of thinking ~ Jim Jones mentality is appropriate here.

"Love thy neighbor as they selves, give unto others as I have given unto you, ect." He healed the sick and raised the dead, restored sight to the blind, the lame to walk....

The Republican Congress: The Kevorkian Health Care Solutions. Except for the wealthy who can afford health care. Tommy Davis the former RHINO who is now a Lib-Con!

Call your next case...Brad.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

That's it! A Lib-Con. So simple, but so accurate. That's one I'll have to give ya. As for the rest of it, not so much. Never considered you a Rhino. Just thought you disliked everything. Wait, forgot about the Fair Tax. On that we actually agree. The moon is blue.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Funny ~ I don't dislike everything - far from it. Just those who dislike the poor and those living on the margins of our society because of politicians who are out of touch with reality. Those who criticize Obama while praising Bush who can take full credit for the mess this county is in right now. And yes I support and endorse the Fair Tax and have since taking my first accounting class.

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

You mean " the less fortunate". "I find the harder I work, the more fortunate I am." I don't blame POTUS, or POTUS past. The mess we're in can be laid square on the steps of the Hill.

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madstork 2 years, 1 month ago

So I had all 3 posts removed, which pointed out the offensive use of the word "TEAtard" by Heim. His post remains. Clearly he is using the word "TEAtard" in an offensive way to anyone who has worked with mentally retarded citizens. Leads me to believe the Pilot is in the business of free passes to Dem leaders. Sad

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

...But deficits and wasting taxpayer dollars aren’t the only concerns with earmarks. Lawmakers also worry about the public perception that the earmarking process breeds corruption or pay-to-play politics. When Republicans lost control of the House in 2006 elections, it was after earmarking scandals involving then-Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham (R) of California, convicted in 2005 of soliciting millions of dollars in bribes in exchange for defense earmarks; and lobbyist Jack Abramoff, convicted in 2006 of conspiring to bribe public officials. Democrats campaigned in 2006 to “clean up the swamp” in Washington".

Well, I must admit that the Dems have the same problems with spending tax-dollars bringing home the bacon so to speak. Who is for banning earmarks in Congress??? Huh who?

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None 2 years, 1 month ago

Dang! That's twice in one day.

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