Father, Son Arrested in Pharmacy Break-In
Lewis Cooper, owner of Cooper's Pharmacy in Vass, points to where entry was made into the store. Glenn M. Sides
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A father and son were arrested Wednesday after a search of their Pinehurst residence yielded prescription pills allegedly taken during a break-in of a Vass pharmacy.
Three county law enforcement agencies participated in the arrest of Richard Michael Fortner, 59, and Richard Michael Fortner II, 22, of 154 Lakeview Condos, Sugar Gum Lane, Pinehurst, on charges related to a break-in at Cooper’s Pharmacy in Vass.
The break-in was reported to Vass police on Monday, said Vass Police Chief Rick Bibey. He said that entry into the pharmacy was gained by cutting a hole in the side of the building.
Capt. Floyd Thomas of the Pinehurst Police Department said that the search warrant was executed Wednesday around 4:30 p.m. after his department received information developed by the Vass police about the suspects in the break-in. The search warrant was obtained by Vass police, and both departments were involved in the initial search.
During the search of the Fortners’ home, police discovered “massive quantities” of prescription pills, including oxycontin and percocet, and thousands of dollars in cash, Thomas said. After that discovery, Thomas said members of the Moore County Sheriff’s Office narcotics unit were called in to help with the search.
Both Fortners are being held in the Moore County Detention Center, with bail set at $200,000 for each.
The father and son face multiple charges, including felony conspiracy, breaking and entering, larceny, possession with intent to sell or deliver Schedule II, II and IV controlled substances and trafficking in opium or heroin.
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bob433 2 years, 3 months ago
Let me just say that it is a shame what drugs can do. I am glad these two have been caught. The little one looks horrible.
RmeMP 2 years, 3 months ago
As I said in an earlier, prescription drug related story, PLEASE START PROSECUTING TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW!!! The prescription drug abuse problem in this county is like a campfire turning into a full blown wild fire (if it's not already at that point) - it's time to start stomping it out! Quit telling yourself "it's only prescription pills, it's not really drug abuse". YES IT IS - and yes, it gets people addicted, and this is the result!
sanibel 2 years, 2 months ago
Don't cast a stone until one knows the whole story. No one is without SIN, all sin can be forgiven no matter what what one has done if they are a believer and ask for forgiveness. That is for God to judge in the end, but they will be judged by the courts now for this. Addiction to this type of of strong medication will make a person become someone you do not know and do things they might not have done if they were not addicted. It's a tragedy. I hope the son gets the help he needs because he is so young and has his whole life ahead of him. In a blink of an eye EVERYONE can make a wrong decision that can change their life forever. EVERYONE SHOULD BE PRAYING FOR THIS TYPE OF TRAGEDY INSTEAD OF JUDGING...LEAVE THAT TO THE COURT AND GOD.
sanibel 2 years, 2 months ago
This guy (the old man) is a piece of rubbish. Always has been. Trust me...he will blame his son and try to get out of any trouble. He needs to rot with the bad boys for a few years. His past history is long and ugly.
hcaeb 2 years, 2 months ago
How so you say sanibel to pray one minute and then call the 'old man' rubbish. Should you not say pray a little harder for him. Hippocrite
mollym01 2 years, 2 months ago
That's what I was thinking, hcaeb! The son is 22. He is old enough to know the consequences of his actions! I think they should both rot!
bob433 2 years, 2 months ago
hippocrite
sanibel 2 years, 2 months ago
Sorry to disapoint all of you. I did not post the second comment under that user name so now who is the hippocrite????
None 2 years, 2 months ago
Richard Fortner has been an acquaintance for several years. He's worked in this area as a licensed electrician for at least three decades. I have never known him to have an addiction to controlled substances or illegal drugs. Sadly though too many good upstanding citizens have fallen helplessly into an abyss from which few recover.
We can speculate, formulate, or guess why our society has become so drug dependent? Perhaps Ivan Pavlov's theory of learned behavior may focus on all of us who has been subjected our entire lives to being over medicated from birth to death. So we condemn or castigate those who have succumbed to chemical dependence. Step back for a moment from the fray, and take a look at movie stars with addiction to drugs and alcohol. The latest tragedy is Marie Osmonds' 15 year old son. Our state taxes pharmaceuticals, and let's not forget our states' windfall from the sale of alcohol. If the state can tax it ~ then use and abuse is an acceptable behavior modifier.
So I think the Fortner's are by-products of a drug addicted society condoned by the government and should receive psychological intervention as opposed to lynching.
RmeMP 2 years, 2 months ago
Toda, I mean no disrespect personally but I can not DISAGREE with you more. Like you, I am also a former LEO and have a degree in criminal justice; unlike you , however, I do not beleieve that "the Fortner's are by-products of a drug addicted society condoned by the government" - I actually find that statement a bit disturbing and offensive.
How you can possibly sit there and excuse these two individual's ILLEGAL drug habit, and the ILLEGAL means they procured their drugs, as an act of the governments condoing (which by definition means to overlook, forgive, or disregard ((an offense)) without protest or censure.)?! The government in fact DOES NOT condone these offences, hence why they are ILLEGAL!
I find it a bit interesting, since you want to include psychology in this discussion, that you lash out against Hollywood and their drug abuse problem as if it is overlooked by the public because of who they are; and you started your thread trying to excuse the actions of the Fortners' by attempting to paint them as "good upstanding citizens" who you had no idea had an addiction problem...
Please allow me to intervene right there by saying that not one single "good upstanding citizen" that I know of, has EVER commited FELONIES, and deserved to keep that title; and I would like to comment on your statement in which you claim that they have "fallen helplessly into an abyss", no sir - they didn't fall helplessly, they JUMPED INTO THAT HOLE! Unless they were forced by outside means, they CHOSE to use illegal narcotics, and they CHOSE to conduct illegal means to procure them...
mooremedic 2 years, 2 months ago
Amen to RmeMP.....I can't believe that Tom really believes in his statement....I feel like i've heard it all now.
None 2 years, 2 months ago
Good comments all: I think you're reading more into my thread than my position on how addicted our society is on pharmaceutical and create your own drugs. A statement reflecting how drug use for the average person compares to the most wealthy among us. As well as the impact from the use of formulated compounds that alterer our minds and bodes.
I never said I supported or endorsed criminal activity. And, yes I've had my home burglarized by three girls - one which was 8 months pregnant. They were appointed attorneys, ordered to pay restitution to me and a neighbor. Not one paid restitution or spend one day in jail. Their dependence on drugs perpetuated their continued criminal activity. Prisons are full, court calenders are measured in months to years, and convictions are subtle when attorneys work the system to find errors so their clients can be released back into society. The prison system NCDOC continues to work tirelessly to parole or release convicted offenders back into society.
I didn't make any comment condoning the Fortner's breaking into Lewis Coopers' pharmacy. I'm sure some blogger's have a medical background. With that said, chemical dependence starts in one's brain to alter motor skills, pain sensory receptors, and in most cases like smoking, alter brain chemical composition ~ just like alcohol dependence. Based on some of the comments, since the government allows the sale of tax paid alcoholic beverages that result in thousands of motor vehicle deaths, domestic violence, socially dysfunctional families, criminal activities, then any crimes committed while under the influence is viewed differently than someone who has a chemical compound dependence.
I have reservations about treatment for incarcerated addicts and would welcome statistical data to the contrary. I agree that the Fortners should be held accountable for their criminal behavior, but as most law enforcement officers know all too well, most convictions result in minimal prison time. North Carolina has one of the highest recidivism rates in the nation. Public funds are stretched thin in our stagnated economic climate. Should the Fortners receive an active sentence for B&E and larceny, they could be back out on the streets within a couple years if not sooner - with the same brain altering chemical dependency.
Mtnneer88 2 years, 2 months ago
Listen to RmeMP..TODA! He hits the nail on the head! It is a personal decision to disobey the law! Society cannot be responsible for your own personal actions! The criminals have "fallen into a self induced abysis" at the expense of all the law abiding citizens of our country/county. As they say in the Barber Shop, "who's next"?
None 2 years, 2 months ago
@Mtnneer88 ~ you're missing my point.
RmeMP 2 years, 2 months ago
As you may be able to tell from my screen name, I am not only a former LEO but also a military veteran. I have a wild idea I would like to throw out there and recieve feedback on; I propose instead out pleading so many cases out and simply placing the offender on probation, we offer a different "program" for nonviolent, young (maybe 25 years old and younger), offenders who may be on a not so stright path in life. What about a military option? I'm not talking about a draft, or forcing anyone to join the armed services; I'm saying instead of putting a young adult on probation and sending them home, where they will be around all their old friends and tempted everyday to stray from the law again, we offer them a military contract? Why offer a plea deal for 4-5 years of probation and send them back to the wolves, instead of offering them a 2-4 year military committment - where they will be taught, among other things; a trait, respect, honor, loyalty - a possible "way out". This may be the chance some of our youth need to "escape" their current conditions. I would appreciate any thoughts, or feedback.
dashjackson 2 years, 2 months ago
Does Mr. Cooper not have an alarm system that calls the police directly? This is the second time he has been robbed. Ofcourse, kids and adults are going for drugs and a drugstore is the place to go. Spend some money on your alarm system and install outside motion alarms or detectors. Why was that much money on hand????????????????
carolinacountrygirl 2 years, 2 months ago
OMG-dashjackson are you serious?? You want to blame the victim and not the criminals! I don't give a fig whether he had a cheap alarm system or didn't have one. He didn't deserve 2 criminals damaging his property or stealing his money. Apparently you sell alarm systems! Let's let the criminals go live with you so you can pat them on the head and say bad boy/bad girl.Not. I've not heard of a drug walking up to a human and forcing their mouth open so it can enter by itself so therefore the humans are responsible for their crimes/actions.
None 2 years, 2 months ago
@RmeMp ~ the state DOC tried the "boot camp" approach for youthful offenders at Cameron Morrison in Hoffman ~ note past tense. Do you really think youthful offenders who have a chemical dependency would have the presence of mind to meet the physical and educational requirements of millitary life?
For years the courts have provided a "viable option" for youthful offenders. As you are probably aware most fail to meet the requirements for basic training, and subsequently washout to return home to the same socio-economic status as when they left.
I've seen inmates in youthful offender institutions (CYO's) perpetuate a major infraction hours before release just to stay in prison. The prison enviornment was much better than home.
Good thought though....
cspinc 2 years, 2 months ago
i can tell you all a little something about youths and our system now.. there is a level system for "bad kids" first of all you have to go through hoops to get help, i know i'm going through it with my son,
yes there was boot camp, it's gone now.. group homes, well there is some levels for behavior issues/substance abuse level 2, level 3, level 4 guess what... our wonderful state is phasing them out.. wanna know why ...money.. all the substance abuse problems and the state is phasing this stuff out. laying off substance abuse counslers, etc. all the places where you get help.
here is another thing.. the critiria for a youth to be in a level 2, or level 3, if you can find one, that isnt being closed down, they have to be in school, public school, which is hard because when you have a youth that is doing drugs, skipping school, running away, etc, public school is out of the picture. your lucky if you can get him/her into alternative school, and when the NC public and NC alternative schools wont take your kid and you cant get him/her into substance abuse group home to get help, then you can thank NC !!!!
so for everyone on this thread who thinks they know, well, sorry, until you lived it... you dont have a clue. so, before you pass judgement on anyone and their "substance abuse" get the facts on everything first.. because you arent the same person, and it effects everyone around you.
dashjackson 2 years, 2 months ago
To Carolina Country Girl - Yes - Had I been robbed once - I would definitely do some improvement on my alarms and make deposits nightly. No, I am not for the criminals - they will get their turn in court - during this age and time, everyone better be on guard. Get over your dramatics!
dashjackson 2 years, 2 months ago
Plus counry girl - I don't sell alarm systems - I am for preventive measures! You must own a drug store! ha
mollym01 2 years, 2 months ago
You play, you pay!! It is bad enough they are drug dealers but, to have robbed a business on top of it! I feel sorry for their family, but not for these men. I also feel sorry for the owner of the pharmacy that has to go through the inconveinence of having the building repaired and having to deal with the insurance company and law enforcement.
carolinacountrygirl 2 years, 2 months ago
dashjackson-your histrionics far exceeds your naiveness.Those of us who have been affected by crime feel differently. Drug addicts,murderers, rapists, all have a common factor. They did the crime and have petty excuse why they did it. They will probably want a court appointed attorney too. Bet you they won't say Guilty or Sorry to Mr. Cooper.
None 2 years, 2 months ago
@Birnster "This may be the chance some of our youth need to "escape" their current conditions. I would appreciate any thoughts, or feedback".
"I can't see anywhere in his post that he was talking about "boot camps" for minors",
If you read my post (?), a "boot camp" approach to CYO's non-violent youthful offenders was attempted in North Carolina as an alternative program to serving longer felony sentences in most cases 3 - 7 years. The program failed miserably.
Daily, The Pilot reports drug arrests ranging from young to old. Our community is no different than others across the nation, with no programs in place to eradicate drug use or dependency. RmeMP suggests behavioral modification through military intervention, and I think in the past that process worked well. I am not knowledgeable enough in that area to offer an opinion in support or to the contrary. His theory with supporting data would make some interesting reading and a blog.
None 2 years, 2 months ago
@Birnster ~ just a follow-up "The choice to an individual say...18 to 25 years", in North Carolina CYO's (Committed Youthful Offenders) range from 16 to 21 unless classified as an RYO, which is another topic for discussion. From 22 and up inmates are then classified as adults and transferred to a prison based on their crime and length of sentence. Sadly, a 19 or 20 year old arrested for sale and distribution a class H felony could possibly receive up to 20 years in prison in an adult unit....see my point?
Do you remember the "Scared Straight" program several years ago? Perhaps those types of "mentoring" programs would benefit some of todays' youth? Just a thought....
bob433 2 years, 2 months ago
anyone who didn't hear or know of the fortner's pill addiction is truly blind as a bat and more deaf than Helen Keller. period.
jor48 2 years, 2 months ago
to all who have comment on this. I think you need to hear the whole story. drugs make people do some stupid stuff. Im not happy with what they did. Yes they should do the time for the crime. But like Toda said richard sr wa a very hard workin man around in pinehurst , southern pines and surrounding area. so many people jump way to far be fore they know the whole story. and bob433 i know the fortners very well and you are right.
Studley 2 years, 2 months ago
Don't get me wrong, I agree with the fact that these two did a crime, and they should be prosecuted to the most possible, but their bail is set at $200,000 and the excuse of a woman from Fayetteville that prostituted her daughter out and eventually got the kid killed, had hers set at $51,000? I am not saying the father and son's should be less, but we need to get our priorities in line.
eyeinthesky 2 years, 2 months ago
Now that I have read all of these comments...lets add some very important information to this discussion.
Old man Fortner is a felon. He had a past history of alcohol and heroin addiction. He was a person of interest in the famous Jeffery MacDonald murders in Fayettville in the 70's. He ran with those who were being investigated for those murders. He hung with Stoekley according to sources. Read fatal Justice; Reinvestigating the MacDonald Murders. Page 85 on line.
Most of that bunch is dead of overdoses and other causes except for him. MacDonald is sitting in jail to this day claiming his innocence. (Hum?) I'm real sure MacDonald's legal team will be getting a call soon.
Sources tell me that his recent ex wife died of an overdose with a fairly large sum of cash on her about four years ago (hum?). He and her were the ones who dragged young Fortner into the drug scene when he was 9 years old. Nice people huh? Maybe time to look into that matter further.
A few months ago when dad was cash strapped a fire burned part of his house (Hum?)
Folks.....When you are subjected to that as a very young boy by a manipulator, con artist, and real bad person your life can only go down hill. Lots of you got fooled because he is a good at what he does. I hope this all comes out and the boy has a little chance to turn his life around. As for the old man..........he needs to own up to the very bad things he has done in his life and not hang his son out to dry like I know he will try to do.
None 2 years, 2 months ago
Eyeinthesky ~ very interesting post I must say. Richard worked for me as a subcontractor on several projects and not once did we ever think his affect was impaired. I tried to find the link you referenced; would you be so kind to post a link? That observation is most interesting.
eyeinthesky 2 years, 2 months ago
The best I can tell you is to check out...
http://books.google.com/books?id=pQba4PRbJdcC&lpg=PA85&ots=d3rPAnNaj4&dq=richard%20fortner%20arrest&pg=PA85#v=onepage&q=&f=false
Richard is from Fayetteville. He went thru a drug treatment program there in the 80's. He then was sent to a halfway house (Bethesda) in Aberdeen. That's how he got here.
His business did ok but did not bring in the $50,000 per month that he bragged about and that sources say he was used to living on. Best guess is that he may not have been "using" much during this period but may have been "running" or indirectly dealing. The ex and Richard met through AA and that may not have been the best scenario. Especially for his boy.
jor48 2 years, 2 months ago
eyeinthesky you also forgot one detail about them almost killing him. I have never understond why people re stuff and then have to put the nasty and unthinkable stuff on here. yes they did the crime and im sure the will do the time. it just makes me really mad that people have to go so low as to post some of the comments that they do. its over and done . let the courts do their job and his business did better than ok. When you dont know someone you should not talk about them.
jor48 2 years, 2 months ago
oh yeah and the fire at his house was already ruled and accident. so you need to watch what you say .
eyeinthesky 2 years, 2 months ago
Look, This is just some of the stuff that has gone on. You can decide for yourself.
LB67 2 years, 2 months ago
RmeMP
From a military spouse point of view, I am certain that drug addicts are not wanted in the military, especially serving in OIF/OEF, I would feel very uncomfortable knowing that an addict was in the same hut with my husband.
ASU88 2 years, 2 months ago
@Dashjackson Mr. Cooper was not "robbed" this was a breaking/entering. As far as an alarm system..how do you know that he does not have alarm system at his store? And re. your statement about being on guard and in favor of preventive measures. How does a 357 mag w/180 grain hollow points and a 100+ lbs German Shepard measure up to being on guard? "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" A few rounds and a knawed up leg will prevent a whole lot of these criminals from acting at will in our communities! Forget the dog...beware the owner!
RmeMP 2 years, 2 months ago
LB67
I was simply throwing out an idea, an option, not a whole plan and how it would work from start to finish; I agree with you, of course you don't want to throw an addict straight into basic training. I would suggest mandating, as part of the program, a successful detox and live in rehab for several months prior to shipping off to basic.
IE: Young suspect gets arrested for the 2nd or third time for drug offense, he tells the DA it's his "way of life, and that he has no other options at home", DA recommends this program to the judge, judge asks defendant if he would be willing to accept a 4yr military contract instead of jail (offering the young man a new direction in life), suspect accepts deal, goes to live in rehab and counseling for 2-3 months, gets clean and sees hope in his future, goes to basic training, graduates, becomes a productive and symbolic member of society.
Again, this is just an idea, not a sat down perfectly detailed plan with attorneys or anything. This is just off the top of my head.
jor48 2 years, 2 months ago
eyeinthesky : coming from a relative of the Fortners, if you are not going to tell the whole stories and are only going to put half the truth then dont put anything at all. its clear that you some who know them. I have read the book you are talking about and im sure that the lawyers of macdoanld will not be getting a phone call. and if you want to put some much of his past history on here why dont you put your real name. i sure mr fortner would like to know who is writing all this and putting out his past history. so now i ask Who are you?
eyeinthesky 2 years, 2 months ago
I am a close AA pal who has had enough. There is no more sense in pouring water down these rodent holes.
VAWalker08 2 years, 2 months ago
How dare you all of you passing judgement saying these hateful things! These are my friends, only God can judge and you think you know what your talking about? unless youve been an addict you have NO CLUE and NO RIGHT to say anything, you dont know how it is. You shoudl be ashamed and get over yourselves, thinking you're better than them. My heart hurts for them and my prayers are with them. What good is it to drag their names through the mud? their already in jail do you really need to make yourselves feel better by running your mouth about something you know nothing about. Karma will not be merciful to you that pass such hateful judgement.
RmeMP 2 years, 2 months ago
VAwalker -
"Only God can judge"? This is true, IN THE AFTERLIFE!!! Here, in the living world, where actual hard working GOOD people live - God does not judge them - the criminal justice system does!!! You want the public to stop dragging your friends names through the mud? Tell them to stop doing drugs, breaking into INNOCENT people's establishments, and wasting my tax money!!! They have "an addiction problem"? TELL THEM TO GET HELP INSTEAD OF HARMING INNOCENT PEOPLE'S LIVES!!! By the way, it doesn't make me feel better "running my mouth" as you put it; it makes me feel better to read that a MAJORITY of people here do not agree with your friend's ILLEGAL life style...
JustSaying 2 years, 2 months ago
THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD ANYMORE....THE RmeMP, and then there are the.....VAWALKER08'S!!!!! This world would be better off with more RmeMP's! RmeMP, you are right, no question about it. (.) When one chooses to break the law and in doing so impose on others, there is no compasion deserved! This Rx problem in this county is obviously coming to a hault for some for a while. Thanks to the Sherrifs office deciding to make a move on it. The lists go on. I hope they follow through and bring in more, because there are more out there. "NO RIGHT" to say anything? We respect the law, that gives us the right VAwalker!
SANDHILLSK9 2 years, 2 months ago
ASU88 please make a note to yourself by use of .357 and 100 lbs of German Shepherd brings you in front of the judge and you might end up making the the trailer payments for the criminals you used it on. Just because someone comes in YOUR closed house, does not allows you to use any force if you can walk out the back door.
bond007 2 years, 2 months ago
The link to view the Fortner connection to MacDonald is: http://books.google.com/books?id=pQba4PRbJdcC&pg=PA85&lpg=PA85&dq=fatal+Justice%3B+Reinvestigating+the+MacDonald+Murders+Richard+fortner&source=bl&ots=d3rPBuHjf6&sig=nk1rS2qOaGheUZApg5TLuTPjSMw&hl=en&ei=XruTS-T2ApCXtgfn2enUCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=&f=false
Mark106 2 years, 2 months ago
I am suprised nobody has touched the subject of how these prescription drugs have become such a problem in Moore County.Yes, these people are guilty as sin and I have no respect for them. Shame on those of you who think MR. Cooper needs a better alarm system. He should NOT need one at all. How about the doctors and DENTISTS that hand out pain meds like they are candy. I don't know how many times I have had to tell a Dr. or Dentist, NO! I don't need any pain medicine. I have flushed more percocet, darvocet, & valium down the toilet than I have ever taken in my entire life. Let's start with something called "PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY"!
None 2 years, 2 months ago
Thanks bond007 ~ I've known Richard for years as I alluded to in another post. I would never have put the two situations together. If you review my post on March 2, 2010 at 10:36 a.m, society knows drug users have addictions to mind and mood chemical dependency. Just like with alcoholics, the users and abusers are always last to realize they have a problem.
We all know the issues, problems, and results to chemical dependency, but what are the solutions. Apparently, incarceration hasn't been a resounding success.
mikest 2 years, 2 months ago
Whoever EYEINTHESKY is you write about Richards past and then comment you dont want to pour salt in the wounds. First off, I am Richards Son-in-law. My wife is the daughter of the women you speak of dying with all the money in her pocket. After I read to her what you wrote you have the nerve to say don't pour salt in the wounds. First off you know absolutley nothing about her death nor the details surounding theme. So be carefull what you say that may offend others not even involved in this. Yes, they screwed up and no they are not perfect. But neither you nor any one else other than a court of law is there judge or jury.
eyeinthesky 2 years, 2 months ago
Life is too short to screw it up over and over again. Thats all. Enough said.
dashjackson 2 years, 2 months ago
Oh you are so funny ASU88, yes, it was breaking and entering but he was robbed of drugs and lots of money. Even if a dog was in there, he/she would probably have been shot. I still vote for more up to date alarm system and deposits made nightly.
jor48 2 years, 2 months ago
mikest i could not agree wit you more. im the niece/ cousin to the fortners. It makes me made what people have the nerve to say. Everyone can say what you want. it will all come out in the end. No everyone is not perfect. to dashjackson you are right the alarm should have been updated and there should not have been that large amount of money in the store. May god have mercy on everyones souls who speak this bad about people that they no nothing about. To All Have A Nice Day
ASU88 2 years, 2 months ago
@SandhillsK9 If someone breaks into your house and you are "in fear of your life" You are not required to flee from your house and you are justified in using "deadly force" to stop the offender! "A man's house is his castle". I hope none of these drug addicts make the mistake of breaking into my house and trying to cause harm to my wife and children. If they do...they will not need a trial nor a room in the Detention Center just a staked out plot in cemetry! A few well placed shots in the center of body mass = instance justice. Lock and load folks...the drug crazied addicts are not concerned with your rights or your family's well being! "Criminal Justice"? what about "Law-abiding folks Justice"? Red-neck...maybe? Alive..indeed! "Stand up for your right to keep and bear arms"!
peridot 2 years, 2 months ago
To Eyeinthesky:
If you have any respect for people who passed away, you will remove your callus comments of his ex wife's passing! You do not have a clue! How DARE YOU paint a picture of Richard and his late ex wife as some kind of "Druggies" that were un fit to be parents! Micheal was not "dragged" into anything as you put it. He was a happy, healthy, sweet hearted boy that loved his step - mother and father very much. Richard Fortner was great dad who loved his son very much and the last thing he wanted was for things to end up like this. EVERYONE who sees this article has to know this!!!! You wrote in a post that you were a longtime AA "pal," well then you must know everybody has their "Rock Bottom" moment while battling addiction. How lucky for you, yours was not public such as his! "Hum?" There is no question that they were wrong in what they did; but you must have facts which you obviously don't! Otherwise you are just someone speculating and putting other people down for the sake of what??? "Hum?" Your ego? GET A FRICKIN LIFE AND A CLUE!!!!! I am the daughter in - law of his ex wife you speak of. The only reason you wrote the things you did is because you are behind the sheep's wool on here. You are obviously a COWARD, especially when you stoop so low to speak of people who have past and have nothing to do with this-
mooremedic 2 years, 2 months ago
I vote ASU88 for Mayor, Town Council or whatever he wants....he hit the nail on the head.....I sure hate it for any of these crackheads to break into my house also, as the last thing they'll ever smoke will be 00 buckshot......