Moore TEA Citizens Hold Picnic
John Ostelvig, dressed as a Revoluntion Army soldier, speaks to attendees at the picnic. Jack Dodson
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Moore TEA Citizens host picnic
The local organization Moore TEA Citizens put on a picnic Saturday to raise awareness about their causes -- high taxes and opposition to the reach of federal government.
The Moore TEA Citizens put on a picnic Saturday morning in Pinehurst to raise awareness about their organization and to draw attention to their efforts to get people out to vote in November.
With about 350 people signed up to come, event chair John Marcum said the picnic exceeded expectations with more than 400 people in attendance.
“It shows how broad the appeal is (for the TEA party),” Marcum said. “It’s a good-sized group. A lot of these people are not members — they’re coming out for the first time.”
Marcum said the Moore TEA Citizens put on an event about every month, either in Moore County or at larger venues. At one point, Marcum said, the group traveled to a large-scale rally in Raleigh.
According to Marcum, there are 1,400 registered members of the Moore TEA Citizens group, and more were signing up today. Their main goal as an organization, he said, is to reaffirm American values.
“What we mean is to take back America to its origins — we feel like we need to reaffirm these cultural and constitutional values,” he said.
The event included speakers like U.S. Representative Howard Coble and FOX News contributor Steve Moore.
“If the election were today, I believe we would have the majority in the House,” Coble said to the crowd, as he was preparing to leave for another TEA party event. “We have an administration that’s completely out of step with America.”
For volunteer Allen Coburn, the Moore TEA Citizens membership gave him an opportunity to be involved in something more specific than the U.S.-wide TEA party group.
“I wanted to be associated with something local,” he said. “You have to start to band together. We want to be active, we want to be respectful, we want to be non-confrontational.”
Dee Park, the chair of the board for the Moore TEA Citizens, said she felt she needed to get involved during the last election.
“We were watching as the last election was rolling around and by the inauguration and new Congress, we knew we needed to do something,” Park said.
So she organized an event for downtown Southern Pines. The event was attended by more than 1,000 people, she said, and since then the group has grown.
“Anybody who went never forgot it,” she said.
At the picnic, many people were dressed in red, white and blue — one attendee, a member of the Moore TEA citizens group, John Oltesvig, was wearing a Revolution Army uniform.
“Our community has been drifting away from our founding fathers,” Oltesvig said.
For volunteer Carol French, the organization was a chance to be a part of something larger, she said.
“(The TEA party) can’t be ignored, it’s important,” French said. “Because these are the people that want America to be America.”
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None 2 years, 9 months ago
John Marcum and his TEA party members seem quite content with County Government spending taxpayers into 206.2 million in decades of debt: Out of sight - out of mind. Let's be realistic: Pinehurst pump stations around Lake Pinehurst represents 3.2 Million of stimulus money that Congressman Howard Coble voted against. http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/c000556/
In addition, after many threats to purchase water from Wagram, the Moore County Board of Commissioners have knuckled under to pressure to provide millions of Taxpayers’ money for the following Pinehurst Projects:
Lake Pinehurst Sewer Lift Station Replacement, Budget $3,206,000 Est. Completion, October 2010, Status, Underway
Monticello Road Tank, Budget, $1,227,000, Est. Completion, December 2010, Status Underway
Old Town Water Distribution System Upgrade, Budget $350,000, Est. Completion Summer 2010 - Status Underway
Pinehurst Wells 5A & 9, Budget $225,000, Est. Completion, December 2010 Status Underway
New Pinehurst Wells, Budget $695,000, Est. Completion, Winter 2012 Status Underway
Pinehurst Well 13 Structure, Budget $50,000, Est. Completion, Deferred to Fiscal Year 2010-2011, Status Planned
Lake Pinehurst Sewer Line Rehabilitation, Budget $1,249,000 Est. Completion, To Be Determined, Status Proposed
Old Town Sewer Rehabilitation, Budget $5,388,890 Est. Completion, Spring 2011, Status Planned
For more conserative spending on the local level ~ visit http://www.co.moore.nc.us/index.php/projectspw
Let's see (/) TEA Party is opposed to big spending in Washington and Congressman Coble voted along party lines in opposition to Stimulus money - right so far? The Village gets millions from Stimulus money and local taxpayers money as well ~ right so far?
So what are they protesting about not enough big spending or Democrats’ who sponsored the bills or Republicans who were opposed to big spending but attends local events where the money is being spent???
So what are TEA Party Protesters opposed to locally or in Washington ~ does it matter where the taxpayer money comes from or who pays for it? Only that they get theirs....
None 2 years, 9 months ago
“Our three priorities are jobs, deficit spending and reckless spending,” Coble said. The congressman is pessimistic about Republicans playing much role in setting policy until after the November election, when they hope to pick up seats if not take control of the House." An excerpt from Congressman Coble's website.
“We were watching as the last election was rolling around and by the inauguration and new Congress, we knew we needed to do something,” Park said.
206 Million on the local level must just be pocket change when it comes to reckless spending ~ Right Ms. Park? Are you benefiting from the millions in stimulus money being spent in and around Pinehurst? Just asking...since you and 400 others are so opposed to big spenders in Washington. You should be keeping an eye on the old courthouse as opposed to Washington. They take your money after the State and Feds get theirs - it's call property tax A.K.A. you never own anything - it all belongs to the government.
None 2 years, 9 months ago
"“What we mean is to take back America to its origins — we feel like we need to reaffirm these cultural and constitutional values,” he said.
Saddle up!
BradMcneill 2 years, 9 months ago
I was actually at the event, and it was very positive. People from all over Moore County, and surrounding counties, were present to exchange ideas on solutions for the problems we all face. We also had the chance to hear some really good speakers, and eat. Always my favorite part. Hats off to Mrs Park, Mr Marcum, and crew for a truly pleasant afternoon.
None 2 years, 9 months ago
The Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI) was created by U.S. President Ronald Reagan on March 23, 1983 to use ground and space-based systems to protect the United States from attack by strategic nuclear ballistic missiles. The initiative focused on strategic defense rather than the prior strategic offense doctrine of mutual assured destruction (MAD). The Strategic Defense Initiative Organization (SDIO) was set up in 1984 within the United States Department of Defense to oversee the Strategic Defense Initiative. One leg of that initiative was to construct a launch station from space - known as the space station presently manned by Soviet's.
The space station costs upward of $100 billion, yet its critics call it a "station to nowhere." It has no clearly defined scientific purpose. Once, President George H.W. Bush's science adviser was asked about the benefits of doing experiments in weightlessness and microgravity. His response was, "Microgravity is of microimportance." Its supporters have justified the space station as a terminal for the space shuttle. But the space shuttle has been justified as a vehicle to reach the space station, which is a completely circular and illogical argument.
And we wonder why were are trillions in debt....Job creation at it's finest.
Perhaps TEA party activists have a solution for spending 206.2 million plus interest here at home? Maybe the politics is too close to home to raise a ruckus.
Diogenes 2 years, 9 months ago
“We were watching as the last election was rolling around and by the inauguration and new Congress, we knew we needed to do something,” Park said.
It's too bad they completely missed the two unfunded wars started by the last administration. Or the unfunded Medicare prescription benefit. While I support the general premise, the simple fact is that most of these "concerned citizens" only became concerned when the party they previously supported lost the presidency. There was no TEA party prior to 2009. Only Libertarians.
TheDirtyDizz 2 years, 9 months ago
lol @ the dude dressed up like a colonial person in the picture. Your gonna make a difference in this world buddy, and don't let anyone tell you different! lofl.
plumblevel 2 years, 9 months ago
I wish the Tea Party was paying more attention to what is happening right under their very noses like a 50 million dollar limited obligation bond! Then comes the Government Complex Center, Court House, etc.while Moore County is already 104 million in debt. Did I hear Picerno is a member of the Tea Party and he voted on spending 50 million dollars for a huge jail we do not need????? Maybe instead of worrying about Obama, the Tea Party should worry about the big spending of Caddell and Picerno for self interest projects right here in Moore County.
foregolf 2 years, 9 months ago
I am just wondering how many of the people who posted against the TEA party went to the event yesterday and listened to the speakers. Not once have I heard supporters of this organization praise our past presidents. They seem to be more concerned with how the present administration is looking to fix our problems regardless of how they came to be. But I am reading so much from Obama supporters who constantly blame our countries problems on Bush. How about we stop placing blame, and support each other for positive outcomes. We are ONE NATION... we need to start acting like it.
bobbylaton 2 years, 9 months ago
Howard Coble a Tea Party man? BS! Howard is a big part of the problem. It has to be a highly publicized event or otherwise he is inside the gated communities. Does he really need the Tea Party????? Howard looks out for the big boys!!!!!! He did not support George W. Bush when Bush needed him. My personal experiences with Howard Coble's office, I found him to be dishonest, senile or both. And some call me a loud mouth Republican. Wake up Tea Party members----Howard needs to go too----sadly he's in a highly registered Republican district and only the Tea Party can get him out and that is why he is showing up at the Rallies.
None 2 years, 9 months ago
“(The TEA party) can’t be ignored, it’s important,” French said. “Because these are the people that want America to be America.”
The people that want America to be America¿ And for the life of me, what does that statement mean...When are American's going to vote with their conscience and common sense. Nothing is going to change as long as voters check the straight ticket block - Blind loyalty. People are missing the fact that in Washington the only people who are represented are the lobbyists.
Check up on those who you supported last election and look carefully at which Political Packs pays the bills: http://www.opensecrets.org They don't take sides with any political party.
Think about it¿
JoeGarrison 2 years, 9 months ago
I wan't at the event I was at the coast, but I know Dee park and many individuals who care very much about our county. The fact that so many agree or are okay with the actions of our county Commissioners from supporting our sheriff, local law enforcement, public safety, free speech in regards to prayer, lower taxes in the form of reductions in the property tax and reduction of county expenses by up to 15%, looking into options on water and so forth with Robbins and elsewhere while repairing water infrastructure in Pinehurst, and much more says that most people in the county feel our Commissioners are doing a good job. Dee Park has a great group and many concerned, good people are members, John Marcum does a good job and I hope for their continued success.
theonewithsense 2 years, 9 months ago
I agree that this congress with Bush's agenda spent way too much money. The fact that we elected someone that made it very clear that he was going create huge spending increases above and beyond what was already being spent shows just how stupid the American people are.
There is a reason that the economy is not recovering. It won't recover until we elect responsible representatives.
None 2 years, 9 months ago
Joe are you now speaking for the TEA Party folks in addition to the GOP? Just asking...Since my question was for Ms. Park - hopefully she can speak for herself. "So what are they protesting about not enough big spending or Democrats’ who sponsored the bills or Republicans who were opposed to big spending but attends local events where the money is being spent???
206 Million on the local level must just be pocket change when it comes to reckless spending ~ Right Ms. Park? Are you benefiting from the millions in stimulus money being spent in and around Pinehurst? Just asking...since you and 400 others are so opposed to big spenders in Washington.
"The fact that so many agree or are okay with the actions of our county Commissioners" ~ then why not put it up for a vote and let's see just how many agree and are OK with politics and block voting by the Power of Three! You haven't answered my question about the Utilities Financial Software provided by Southern Software, Inc. Was it invoiced or donated? Just a simple question - I would bet it was invoiced because of my first post....August 7, 2010 at 8:11 p.m.
Since you are chummy with these folks give her a call and ask her to respond since she lives in Pinehurst and is directly benefiting from Obama's stimulus money...funny isn't it?
BradMcneill 2 years, 9 months ago
Tommy, did you get your space on the ballot?
coffecreme 2 years, 9 months ago
Costumes don't give credibility.
None 2 years, 9 months ago
Brad ~ I'm waiting on an official letter from Glenda....
coffecreme ~ they had a clown from Fox News speaking!
None 2 years, 9 months ago
Millions for Municiple Water and Sewer upgrades by the County <=> A windfall for Southern Software, Inc. Municiple Financial Software...I would take Quick Books Pro 2009 over any software on the market today. Tried and tested for over a two decades and used by almost every accountant and their clients because of interface capabilities in business today.
When two out of three block voting commissioners have a financial and vested interest in promoting a product sold by their company, the bidding process takes a back seat when taxpayers pay the bills. Is it illegal or above board without a hint of conflict of interest ~ voters have to express and form their opinions.
JoeGarrison 2 years, 9 months ago
Tommy when will you have a write in candidate party, celebrating your official candidacy? You should send out engraved announcements:)
None 2 years, 9 months ago
Joe ~ I am a conservative and not a big spender. I'm sure the Moore County Board of Elections Office's telephone is ringing off the hook. When I turned in the petitions the phone started ringing [12:01] before I left her office....some people in politics seemed to be very worried.
JoeGarrison 2 years, 9 months ago
So when is your party or coming out ceremony? Since all the hubbub is blowing your way:) When will you have a campaign website? What is your campaign platform? When will you engage or take part in public debates with your opponents? When will you officially be recognized as a candidate? When will it be announced in the paper that you are indeed a write in candidate if you are?
None 2 years, 9 months ago
I'll take more time to hubbub about Southern Software, Inc. and ethical issues surrounding two sitting commissioners. No bid contracts for Municiple Financial Software for the millions of stimulus dollars ~ opps that's democates ~ for municiple water utilities. A sitting Sheriff who accepts free software which is totally unethical by any standards and the North Carolina Ethics Commission rules. A Detention Center being built in Moore County for 52.5 Million - right figures that were voted on by Larry, Nicky and Jimmie. When one county over [Harnett] they built a very simular facility for half that amount: $21,456,440.00 and with change orders, $21,744,382.00. So where is roughly 30.5 million going? Let's get back to dollars and sense.
Any idea what the operational costs will be for the new Gold Bar Hilton?
BradMcneill 2 years, 9 months ago
The number is not 52.5, but 27.5 I believe. The ethics charge is a non starter. The gift was to the County of Moore, not a personal gift to the Sheriff. Hope you get on the ballot. I love a race.
None 2 years, 9 months ago
So Brad what's the other 30 million going for since you have insight into the GOP and TEA Party group? If ethics isn't an issue, then what should happen to Charlie Rangel? Ruffin Poole may have a difference of opinion about ethics.
None 2 years, 9 months ago
Brad you should phone Tim Lea and let him know they made a multi-million dollar error and the bonding company is way off base....
BradMcneill 2 years, 9 months ago
Who said ethics wasn't an issue? What's the cost of the jail got to do with the GOP, or the TEA Party? Too bad about the ballot thing.
plumblevel 2 years, 9 months ago
They are building a 190 bed jail for 8.7 million in Yadkin County and Harnett built one for 21.7. So, why is the Moore County Public Safety so expensive? Could it be that it has to be a showcase for Southern Software? A software testing site?
So, Brad, who do you talk to that you are quoting 27.5 when it has not been announced. Are you talking to Caddell who has decided to ruin an historic town? Sounds like mark up then mark down. Oldest political trick in the world so we can kiss their feet when it is announced how much money they have saved us since Moore is already 104 million in debt. Your 27.5 is still way higher than Yadkin or Harnett.
Your quote does not include the daily operational costs. Yadkin will be 300 to 400 a day overhead cost per prisoner and 120 staff cost per prisoner. I guess that will be paid for in Moore County with "court ordered taxes".
BradMcneill 2 years, 9 months ago
If it were 19 Million, would you be happy then? Historic? The SS thing is just really old now. The agreement for the gift to the County of Moore prohibits the County from being used as a show case and/or testing site. If y'all come up with something new, please let me know. Meanwhile, I'll be hunting the rare violet striped camel cricket, on the future jail site, to chain myself to.
plumblevel 2 years, 9 months ago
Brad, Since the donated software is being used and "all the bugs" are being reported back to SS isn't that like having a lab near your home office to develop a better product? The reason you are tired of hearing about it is that you just want it to go away. This problem would go away if Picerno and Caddell would recuse themselves from voting on issues of financial self interest.
Caddell and Picerno will be asked in the future everytime they vote on issues to do with Southern Software to recuse themselves. The only reason they refuse is they are desperate to build this new 40 million Public Safety Complex out of self interest. They are also ruining a town and endangering children in the process. So, Brad, get used to being tired of hearing about it. The complaining is not going to stop until Caddell and Picerno decide to find their conscience and a little bit of integrity.
None 2 years, 9 months ago
"The agreement for the gift to the County of Moore prohibits the County from being used as a show case and/or testing site." That scenario has changed...Joe said it was illegal. According to a former programmer who worked on software development with SS said Moore County Sheriff's Department was used for BETA testing. They left because of the incredibly low remuneration paid by SS.
If it was 19 million and the taxpayers of this county could exercise their right to vote, then perhaps we would have a voice.
Since you are being coached by Nick or Joe on what to say on your threads, perhaps you can enlighten voters and taxpayers on who bid on the Municipal Financial Software being used by County Utilities? Simple question. I bet breakfast at Mac's that it wasn't bid out to other vendors - it was an in-house deal since two commissioners have vested interests in Southern Software, Inc.
What has the Moore County GOP and TEA party have to do with 4 million in stimulus funds? Your GOP Congressman Howard Coble voted against the Obama package ~ didn't he? The TEA party that held the picnic you attended blasted Washington's wasteful spending ~ and only a few miles away, Pinehurst voters, many of whom are TEA party activists, have lift stations are being build around lake Pinehurst using that same stimulus money they were complaining about while walking around in funny costumes. Sounds to me that they are talking out of both sides of their mouths....We don't want wasteful spending but give us our share.
BradMcneill 2 years, 9 months ago
Dang. You got me there. Totally ignored the facts, but you got me. You win, I lose. Nice posting to ya . Have a good night. Tommy~ I speak for myself. If you knew any thing about me, you should know that.
None 2 years, 9 months ago
Here you go Brad ~ I'm sure Caddell and company have the same information that was sent to me in an email. So where is the other money going? 52.5 - 22 = 30.5 million, or are they going to pound their chest when they bring the DC in under budget ~ the one they have on paper?
Mr. Davis,
The contract for our Detention Center was $21,456,440 and was awarded to Bordeaux Construction of Durham on April 5, 2007. Our change orders pushed the project costs to $21,744,382.
Our old facility had 85 beds. In 2005 we had an Average Daily Population (ADP)of 142 with a peak of 170. We had a Jail Committee made up of business people, Sheriff's department staff, judges, and administrative staff. They were very instrumental in seeing the project done and having a say in the facility. They recommended a 300 bed facility expandable to a 500 beds. Our facility has the core services (laundry, kitchen, etc.) in place to support a 500 bed facility. Based on our population the life expectancy is 50 years. Our facility also houses the Harnett County Sheriff's Office and a Magistrates Office.
Construction was finished and the Certificate of Occupancy was issued on April 28, 2009. My role was Project Manager for Harnett County. I inspected the facility, coordinated change orders, and approved pay requests. Our architect was Moseley Architects of Charlotte. They did a great job.
Please give me a call should I be able to answer an questions.
Wm. A. (Tony) Wilder, Deputy County Manager and Tax Administrator County of Harnett P.O. Box 759 Lillington, NC 27546 910-XXX-XXXX 910-XXX-XXXX (fax) I deleted telephone numbers.
Their operational costs are inline with Plumblevels numbers. Where are the budget projections to cover those costs? Another surprise?
Who was on the Detention Center Committee again ~ all county employees with Chief Deputy Neil Godfrey as chair? How can they think that the voters and taxpayers here in Moore County are so gullible?
None 2 years, 9 months ago
Brad we have spoken on several occaisons. I know you support your thoughts and opinions. What really bothers me - as a conservative republican, I look at all the issues not just with blinders on and I certainly don't vote because someone else thinks that is the right thing to do. And when grown people run around like children on a play ground, schemeing on Facebook, and web sites, I begin to think people can no longer make a decision without coaching.
No one wins or loses on blogs. We are all entitled to an opinion and for years The Pilot printed editorials and only those letters selected for print presented opposing views. Now the commissioners can get feedback and in most cases isn't in keeping with their way of doing the peoples business. Caddell and Picerno may want to change how they vote in the future because they are now under the microscope.