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Sandhills Community College has launched its own police force.
The college said the move is designed to provide a quicker response time to incidents on campus and to offer campus-specific services not necessarily available from local police departments.
The department's four officers were sworn in during the college's trustee retreat earlier this year.
"I am pleased to announce that Sandhills' uniformed police officers will provide law enforcement services to the college community and handle all law enforcement matters that were previously handled by the Southern Pines Police Department," David Reece, the college's director of police and public safety, said in a statement.
Karen Manning, director of marketing and public relations for the college, told The Pilot that the college's existing budget was used to move from campus security to a police department. She said existing full-time security positions were sworn in as police officers, and it created no additional positions.
"The monies that fund the maintenance of the college buildings/grounds and security is provided by the county," she said in an e-mail. "Funding for faculty positions is provided by the state."
Each officer had to go through basic law enforcement training and is fully qualified, she said.
Under state law, college police officers possess full police powers on all property owned or occupied by the college.
The department also operates under a written mutual-aid agreement with the Southern Pines Police Department which gives each department concurrent jurisdiction under special circumstances. Primary jurisdictional areas are routinely respected, the release said.
A Sandhills police officer will be on campus Monday through Friday, the release said, while college security officers will continue their duties on Saturdays and Sundays. The college employs two part-time security officers, Manning said.
Sandhills police officers have direct radio contact with Moore County emergency communications.
In the event of an emergency, or to report a crime or traffic accident, individuals should call 911. Moore County communications will contact the on-duty Sandhills police officer by radio.
Officers will continue to be available by telephone but can best be reached through Moore County communications.
"Security has become a pressing issue in an era of unpredictable and inexplicable campus violence," Reece said. "At Sandhills, we know we're making this campus as safe as possible."
Contact John Krahnert III by e-mail at jkrahnert@thepilot. com.
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ASU88 1 year, 10 months ago
No Police on duty on Sat/Sun @ Sandhills CC...I'm sure the criminals will take the weekends off as well. College campuses which provide 24 hour housing for students should be staffed with a Police force to respond around the clock to calls for assistance but does Sandhills really have the need for this service? If crime is on the rise on campus why has the Pilot not covered the story? "Existing budget was used to move from security officers to police officers" I'm sure the existing budget was used as well as a few line item shuffles to pay for this unwarranted expense. And having the SCC Police force interconnected to Moore County 911 center will have an effect on the operations of "emergency communication" within our county. I hope the SOP for SCC PD does not include running a "28" on every students car that parks illegally if so I sure this will become a real concern for the dispatchers as they will become bogged down with these request while their services may be needed in a "real" emergency situation. College Admin. works M-F..Sandhills PD works M-F maybe this is a special security detail the SCC PD is working as. If you want real time response in an emergency situation at SCC require Dept. Heads/chairperson to become EMT-D certified and also require them to take a conceal carry class and obtain the permit from the Sherrif's department and provide them with SCC issued sidearms and have them trained by SCC BLET staff as to the proper safe handling of a firearm. Post warning signs at the entrance to campus stating that staff @ SCC have been properly certified to carry a firearm and will use the force that is needed to provide a safe atmosphere for it's students/staff. I'm sure that will run all the car break- in artists down the hill to the SP Resv. Park and into the jurisdiction of a real Police Department! I support all law enforcement officers in our county but are criminal acts a real problem at SCC? In these tight budget times this is not a wise choice for limited funds. If crime is such a concern at SCC contact the Serriff and SPPD/PPD Chiefs and contract for off duty officers to patrol the campus!
shadeysmom 1 year, 10 months ago
Cool! Good job Guys!!
Poundman 1 year, 10 months ago
Let them patrol the reservoir in Suffering Pines.
RmeMP 1 year, 10 months ago
If it helps keep students/staff safe, then I'm all for it! Glad to see they went through BLET, and are regular certified police officers - not just "rent a cops"; I wonder if they are armed?
None 1 year, 10 months ago
Interesting to see so many taxpayers who support campus police for two year schools. There are 58 educational institutions in North Carolina. It cost taxpayers $160,000.00 of SCC bond funds to launch Dave Reeses' police department. Shouldn't all community colleges including the Hoke County Campus of SCC have patroling police? Just to launch police programs for the 58 two-year schools, taxpayers should ante-up $9,280,000.00 for startup and an additional $20,000,000.00 for cars and equipment.
Here's a breakdown that warranted a campus police department over a three year period: 2006: Drug Arrest 1, Illegal Weapon - 1, Burglary - 4, M.V. Theft - 1 (moped), 2007: Liquor violations 1 - Drug Arrests - 1, Illegal weapons 1, Burglary - 1, M.V. Theft - 1. 2008: Drug Arrest -1, Illegal Weapons - 2, Burglary - 2. No data on convictions.
http://www.sandhills.edu/security/downloads/AnnualSecurityReport2009.pdf
Folks it's all about the politics and putting on a good front at the taxpayers expense. The funding came from the last bond referendum that is a line item in the county budget for SCC reserve funds. I think ALL community colleges should have the same taxpayer funding for 9 to 5 police forces, for those taking night classes at SCC campus, Westmore, and Hoke County ~ well there is always Sheriff's Departments and local police. Dave has his pocket badge on his dress jacket, blue lights for his patrol car, a gun, and a radio. We now have instant protection at SCC. Shouldn't taxpayers protest the fact that not all Community Colleges in the NC system receive the same treatment?
RmeMP 1 year, 10 months ago
I, for one, appreciate proactive law enforcement vs reactive. Every time there is a school shooting, which is occuring far too often these days, everyone faults the institutions for not having armed security or police on campus - now that Sandhills Community College does, people are saying it's a waste of money?!
God forbid someone goes off the deepend on campus, I would rather already have the police there to handle the situation - rather than having to wait for SPPD to show up...
Price of SCC bondfunds to launch campus police department? $160,000.00 Price of saving innocent lives? PRICELESS!!!
None 1 year, 10 months ago
RmeMP: please allude to an absense of campus police for the other 57 state community colleges as well as SCC satelite campus's like Hoke County and Westmore. Do they deserve reactive police enforcement as well?
As a former law enforcement professional, how long would it take for an armed shooter with a MAC - 10 or perhaps two, or an assult rifle with several clips to fire on a class of students? The recent shooting at Fort Hood where "veteran" civilian police were only blocks away: "An Army psychiatrist who was about to deploy to Iraq went on a two-gun shooting spree at Fort Hood in Texas on Thursday afternoon. Twelve people died in the attack, and 31 were wounded.
I think a deranged gunman would have the advantage against rookie police in an all out gun battle; secondly, should all community colleges install the same equipment that is in use for airport security?
You speak of "everyone faults the institutions for not having armed security or police on campus", what happens when an inexperienced officer fires a weapon on campus and hits a student.
So back to my original statement: shouldn't all 58 community colleges have armed police? If so, now we're talking "PRICELESS"!
RmeMP 1 year, 10 months ago
@Toda- To answer your question, YES; I believe ALL schools should have armed police. Do they choose to alot finances for it? No. That is a decision for each school to make, if it were my decision - yes, every school would have armed police.
I know that my opinion is controversial, so is my decision to protect my home and family with personal firearms; it's not a decision that will ever have the support of every citizen. I respect your view, as I hope you can try to mine.
SCCstudent 1 year, 10 months ago
""The monies that fund the maintenance of the college buildings/grounds and security is provided by the county," and I am assuming that the Reese Police Department receives taxpayers money ~ opps, she said county money!
Toda - it appears that your questions go unanswered regarding Hoke and Westmore campus's; or your senario about an armed gunman. If the crime rate based on the security report warrants armed police, perhaps they should fence the campus in and have guard gates like on military installations. Oh! but Fort Hood is a military installation. What Dr. John requests, the political machine delivers ~ since it is only county money!
dogboy 1 year, 10 months ago
...chewing gum in class? YOU'RE UNDER ARREST!!!!!!!!!
the1 1 year, 10 months ago
Being a student who takes night classes, I am glad they have added more security.
SCCstudent 1 year, 10 months ago
Reese is stopping cars he thinks are going too fast...he likes his blue lights; next purchase on his crime fighting list: a brand new laser radar so they can write speeding tickets! They should put at least one on the golf cart. Then an armed officer can call ahead and have Chief of Campus Police Reese write a citation to a struggling college student who is working two jobs trying to get an education beyond high school. He struts around campus like he is an FBI agent...one would have to see him to believe his egotistical persona. If one student who was detained illegally has her way, Reese will be hitting the bricks on the way out of town. (ie Green)
SCCstudent 1 year, 10 months ago
@the1~ they are 9-5 police.
RmeMP 1 year, 10 months ago
@SCCstaudent- "A Sandhills police officer will be on campus Monday through Friday, the release said, while college security officers will continue their duties on Saturdays and Sundays."
Just curious, where did you see the hours posted at as being 9-5, or are you making more stuff up again?
SCCstudent 1 year, 10 months ago
@RmeMP: there you go again making assumptions. 9 to 5 is 8 hours. Could be 8 - 4 is 8 hours, 7 - 3 is 8 hours...so take your pick. In the real world most executives work 9 to 5, isn't a Chief of Campus Police an executive? If you choose to start this crap over again [are you making more stuff up again?], I'm here for your bickering call!
None 1 year, 10 months ago
RmeMP perhaps one should lobby Dr. John for overtime pay so police coverage can be extended to evening classes when most crimes occur; under cover of darkness. You didn't mention police coverage for Hoke Campus or Westmore? Why? Like most government jobs, hours do vary, but most are 9 to 5 unless one is teaching an 8 am class, then they leave at 4 pm.
Perhaps a visit to the campus will provide you with better insight. While you're at it take a look at the county budget, it is on-line. You must have not lived here very long since you endorse bond referendums? Ask the county if any of the bond debt has ever been completely retired with interest since the inception of SCC. It's getting time for another one because they just bought a truck load of new computers. We need more taxpayers like you who have no qualms about paying more taxes and enjoy the experience.
RmeMP 1 year, 10 months ago
@SCCstudent- YOU are the one who said they were 9-5, I simply asked how you knew that - or if you were assuming? Why are you trying to make me look like a bad guy, I asked you one simple question.
@Toda- I did, in fact, answer your question pertaining to the Hoke and Westmore campuses - I said that I believe ALL campuses should have armed police on campus (that includes Hoke and Westmore). Also, I have not only "visited" SCC, I recieved two degrees from there; and to address your last sentence, no - I don't mind paying a little more taxes if it's for a good use, which I happen to believe law enforcement is.
SCCstudent 1 year, 10 months ago
@RmeMP~ "are you making more stuff up again"? That Sir is called sarcasm! -not one simple question. Monday thru Friday is a five day workweek - forty hours. You should know about scheduling since you have two degrees from SCC. Parse your words carefully...and please explain what "a good use" of taxes represents? Should taxpayers send separate checks with a notation that the revenue be used only for law enforcement? I think those students who attend night classes have security needs that daytime students don't - especially at satellite sites . But Chief of Police and Head of Security, Dave Reese only works days: 9 to 5.
RmeMP 1 year, 10 months ago
I am trying to be nice, like I said I would.
SCCstudent - I wasn't being sarcastic, you ARE in fact ASSUMING that the police work 9-5... Maybe the good people at the Pilot could possible talk with Mr. Reese, and find out if the officers will be working past 5pm or not. I don't know their hours, nor do I "ASSUME" to...
Getalife 1 year, 10 months ago
Sandhills needs law enforcement during hours of operation. As for Reece working only 9 to 5, Monday - Friday, I would suggest that the college administration require him to work across shifts. Most law enforcement works 12 hour shifts, allowing fewer officers to cover more hours. In regard to whether the Westmoore and Hoke campuses should be covered, sure, but not with campus employees. It would be a simple process to request Hoke County to provide coverage. If we are responsible for the coverage of the Moore County campus, Hoke should be responsible for their campus. The Westmoore campus would be adequately served by assigning the Sheriff's Deputy responsible for that area to be stationed on campus, unless he has a call. Don't forget, the Sandhills Campus has the population during operation exceeding that of Carthage, West End, Robbins, Vass, Westmoore, Whispering Pines, and other Moore County communities who are routinely covered by law enforcement.
But, I do have one concern. If it is deemed necessary to hire law enforcement to secure the Sandhills campus, why not close, and man, all but one entry for better control of the campus?
artgeek 1 year, 10 months ago
Having attended a college where a student was assaulted by a man in the parking lot, and having lived through the trauma of the D.C. area sniper attacks, and now as student at SCC, I do feel much more protected with a police force on campus. All if-then scenarios and funding complaints aside, it's a wiser move all around to have officers on location. I support anything SCC does to make itself more appealing and safer.
JeneccaD 1 year, 10 months ago
YAY, for campus police!
SCCstudent 1 year, 10 months ago
@artgeek: there are a million "what if" scenarios, but if you read The Pilot one can see that one's life and property is in greater danger at the reservoir park and the Wall Mart parking lot than at SCC. Toda provided a link to the security report for three years running; no crime wave at SCC that justify's a police presence and the taxpayers expense of funding just that one campus.
SCCstudent 1 year, 10 months ago
Car Break-ins on the Rise in S.P. => "Last month, police officers handled 23 incidents involving items being stolen from vehicles."
There hasn't been 23 incidents since SCC opened their doors in the early '60's.
artgeek 1 year, 10 months ago
@SCCstudent: I appreciate your concern for other areas in the county that are just as likely to experience crime. Maybe for that reason, Moore county should follow suit and look into that. There are a lot places that are lacking in an effective police force. Why criticize the collge for being pro-active?
I am proud of the actions SCC has taken to better itself. I've been to other colleges, and for a community college, SCC has a lot to offer. I stand beside their decision.
SCCstudent 1 year, 10 months ago
@artgeek ~ if you step back for a moment, you will see where comments reflect on the politics as opposed to an armed police force. The other areas referenced are SCC satellite campus's. The main campus has Monday thru Friday daytime police; wouldn't it stand to reason that those other SCC campus's should garner the same protection? Wouldn't it stand to reason that those evening students should have the same protection as daytime students? As mentioned in previous posts, what about the other 57 community colleges in our state; should they be treated differently than SCC? I believe that is called discrimination; or in the case of SCC, local politics as usual. No argument about the quality of an educational foundation and services at SCC; no one has said anything to the contrary. In most cases where taxpayer money is spent for improvements, there are supporting data or facts to support any financial requests. This is pure and simple - Moore County Politics....
the1 1 year, 10 months ago
@SCCstudent, I think they may be around a little after 5. I left class one night around 8 and was surprised to see Reese. It would be good if someone was patrolling after 5. When I leave class it's usually me and two other females walking together.
MooreFun123 1 year, 10 months ago
For all of you who ASSUME the SCC Police Dept only works 8am-5pm.... GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. There is a police officer on campus from 6am to 1am during the week. Why are you all mad and insulting the department, saying they aren't on campus for evening classes when you don't even know what you are talking about.... are you that ignorant? As for all of the bashing on Reece, he's the CHIEF, he shouldn't have to work until 1am. He might have daytime hours but there are times that he is on campus past 6pm..... focus all of your energy on something more productive.
MooreFun123 1 year, 10 months ago
RmeMP...they are a police department, they are armed lol
Toda who are you calling rookie police?? No SCC office has less than 5 years experience....and they're not small town cops. Combined, they have worked in Fayetteville, Wilmington, Charlotte, Over seas law enforcement contracts, narcotics investigations, etc etc etc. You honestly have no idea.
Sure all com. colleges should have the help of police officers, but now that SCC has it, you immediately bash them. The Hoke campus is in the process of getting officers on their campus. Want to talk crap about them too?? This is a GOOD thing, what's your issue with keeping students safe?
Poundman 1 year, 10 months ago
I'm going to hire my own security guard to accompany my family and I around as a precaution. One of these days there might be some kind of serious crime wave around here. Maybe. Possibly. Ya never know.
None 1 year, 10 months ago
@MooreFun123 ~ "Fayetteville, Wilmington, Charlotte, Over seas law enforcement contracts, narcotics investigations, etc etc etc. You honestly have no idea." - Apparently they are all in their 50's with that experience!
Do you work for Reese or take his classes? Perhaps you should start at the beginning before ranting and continuing your diatribe ~ "Want to talk crap about them too??" Since I pay taxes in Moore County and have since the Meyers donated the land for Sandhills, I have a vested right to voice an opinion when government spends taxpayer money for political agendas as opposed to justifying a need for those expenditures.
Learn to read at the beginning of a book as opposed to the last paragraph. What are the crime statistics that warranted a police force in the first place? Reece published the report.
"This is a GOOD thing, what's your issue with keeping students safe?" Perhaps you should read my post: April 9, 2010 at 11:53 a.m.
Virginia Tech had campus police paroling campus as well.
And last but not least, you should read the "terms of use policy" before posting again: "are you that ignorant?"
No but you are for your sloppy rants!
jqc 1 year, 10 months ago
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MooreFun123 1 year, 10 months ago
Toda they are not 50 lol try cutting your estimate in half. It's so funny to me how you assume they are older simply because they have so much law enforcement experience. I have no reason to go back to school and take classes, nor do I work for Reece. I do, however have a right to an opinion like you do.
Calling someone ignorant is in no way in violation of the "terms" of this site. That comment further proves my point. You are lacking in knowledge of this subject..... good try, but my posts stay.
I don't understand how you can whine about all community colleges not having police, but when some start getting them, you are opposed to it. Do you want campuses safe or not? Stop hiding behind a computer screen and go to the campus and tell all the students how you feel; see what type of reaction you get.
And I'm so sorry that you consider my "rants" sloppy, because I don't throw in big words like you. I'm sorry that you are miserable with our community, do us all a favor and move somewhere else. I applaud SCC for what they have done.
MooreFun123 1 year, 10 months ago
......and just to make sure you know, SCC asked for funds for the police department, but didn't get any. The police department isn't costing you any extra money.
Sandheels7 1 year, 10 months ago
MooreFun123 it's good to know the real facts about the SCC PD. It sounds like SCC has the best of the best keeping us safe.
Toda what's your real issue with the SCC police department? Did you apply, and get turned down or something? I am a current student, and feel much safer with the police department on campus. I no longer fear taking night classes, and have even recruited some friends to enroll. We are all pleased with this decision, and it is interesting that you are so opposed to it. How can you be on the outside looking down on this, when we are actually a part of what is happening, and can't be happier. Shame on you
jqc 1 year, 10 months ago
I wonder if they kept all the security gaurds? There is at least one that probobly couldn't be rolled in as they pulled time for domestic violence. Or are of questionable moral values
None 1 year, 10 months ago
@MooreFun123:"I have no reason to go back to school and take classes, nor do I work for Reece. I do, however have a right to an opinion like you do. " so where did your "facts" come from - if you don't attend school at SCC or work for Reese? Out of the air? One has to be 21 to be a sworn officer, so according to your math 4 years to aquire all of that experience! That dog won't hunt! Perhaps you should go back to school and take a few classes...like math 060.
@Sandheels7: "Toda what's your real issue with the SCC police department?" Not with the department if you had taken the time to read my post on April 9, 2010 at 10:59 a.m. You are clouding the issues with jaberwocky....Do you have any idea what a bond referendum is and what it costs taxpayers? Apparently you don't pay taxes! The funding was from reserve funds left over from the last bond issue. It's only taxpayer money. So the students at the other 57 community colleges shouldn't have campus police protection? If you read, you may understand before posting crap.
None 1 year, 10 months ago
@MooreFun123: "Contain profanity or other language likely to offend", obviously you don't understand what you read; SCC has remedial classes for the intellectually challenged.
MooreFun123 1 year, 10 months ago
jqc they kept their security guards, the ones that wanted to stay anyways... and you are right on point.
Sandheels7, I'm glad to hear such positive feedback! That's what it is all about. Good luck in school!
scc239 1 year, 10 months ago
I am a college officer and i want to thank all who have shown support for the SCC officers. I know one of the officers personally and yes he has a lot of experience working with Fayetteville police and no he is not 50 he is 43 and excercises and runs many times a week. When people see him most believe he is in 30's. No officer can protect everyone or everything. If this was possible there would be no crime. Yes the Ft Hood shooter did take lives and he would have taken many more if he had not been stopped by a police officer. That same police officer had just completed the training that one of the SCC officers has just completed at FT Bragg(for free for those of you who are worried about the officers cost).
scc239 1 year, 10 months ago
All counties and cities are looking for ways to hire new deputies and officers for their agencies. I have not seen any documentation as to what it cost to hire the officers but I was told city council, county commissioners, or whatever they may be called denied any funding for SCC to hire the officers. The money came from the same budget that paid for the the security officers. All the security officers are now part time and work very little now that the police officers have been hired. If anyone has any questions of any of the officers I will be more than happy to ask the one I know. Or better yet go by the college and talk with him yourself. He is the reason I became a Fayetteville police officer and now work as a college officer. To back what one of the people wrote the officers work from 6 am to 1 am. You also will not find to many chiefs of police or sheriffs who work late hours. That is why they hire officers and deputies they can trust to work those shifts.
scc239 1 year, 10 months ago
The officers were not hired because SCC has a high crime problem but to deter crime and provide a more rapid response should a crime occur. Some of the crime stats cited earlier (Illegal weapons) were the main reason the officers were hired. They provide a rapid response if, God forbid, a shooter is on campus. Again thank all of you who support the SCC officers and for those who do not, those officers are part of the reason why in this country you can have and voice an opinion.
Sandheels7 1 year, 10 months ago
scc239 Thank you for your input! It's great to make sure the unappreciative people understand the real facts. I'm am proud to be a SCC student; it's nice to be associated with people who are willing to stand up for our safety, and not just hide behind a computer screen and talk politics and negativity.
None 1 year, 10 months ago
@Sandheels7:=>April 12, 2010 at 9:51 p.m., is that sort of like freedom of speech. No one is hiding anywhere! Is that the best lame argument you can bring to the topic being discussed?
@scc239: so where did MooreFun123 April 10, 2010 at 4:24 p.m. come up with all of those "facts" cited in their post? Also, what was the conviction rate for those three years cited in Reese's security report? What was the statistical data used to determine that an on campus police force was warranted for a two year school - and just for SCC as opposed to broad legislation for all schools in the community college system? How did SCC pull $160,000. that had been requested out of a much smaller security and grounds budget? Is their that much padding in line item expenditures across the board? The budget and numbers based on an absence of supporting data lends credence to just more politics...as usual at the expense of the taxpayer. Dr. John, Reese and George now have their campus police force ~ ironically not one of them has to write the check!
SCCstudent 1 year, 10 months ago
scc239 - "All counties and cities are looking for ways to hire new deputies and officers for their agencies." With the ever increasing size of the Sheriffs' Department, that is taxpayer funded, why couldn't school resource officers been assigned if the crime rate is so high at SCC. Apparently, not all is being published in Dave Reese's reports to the college board of directors regarding crime statistics, or the reported violations are being minimized for enrollment numbers. Something appears to have a familiar smell to it....
Sandheels7 1 year, 10 months ago
toda are you suggesting that Reece doesn't pay taxes?? Apparently you think you are the only one who puts any money into the community. How selfish can you be? Accept the facts, and stop making it sound like SCC got any addition money to start up the police department. Why would you ask one stranger how another stranger got their facts..... just accept the facts and get off of the subject of how people came to knowledge of them. You need to get back to the topic at hand, and stop insulting people and encouraging them to fight with you about this. How old are you again??
scc239 thank you for your service to your community!!
scc239 1 year, 10 months ago
Other than a concern about funding I don't understand what's the problem. I have a daughter that attends a Wake County school and I am very happy every day when I see that officer or deputy in the school. There is not a price that can be put on the safety of my daughter. If it means I pay $5 dollars more in my taxes every month so be it. I don't care if he/she is 21 with a week on the job or 56 with 30 yrs on the job. There is an officer there and he/she is a deterent to anyone who may have the thought they want to shot up the school. If you are a student, staff, facutly, visitor or parent of a student at SCC I think you should also be happy there is a police officer at the school. Should there be an officer at each and every school in every city and county in the US, yes there should. It is sad to say this but it is the current state of our society that warrants a police presence in schools today. We can debate forever and a day what makes a person do it; gun control, prison reform, the media, and the state of the American family. But the ugly truth is there are people out there who would attempt to do harm to you, your family and friends. And that is the reason why SCC has police officers on it's main campus and there are plans to put them on all SCC campuses. Like it, hate it, or love it they are going to be there.
Amazed 1 year, 10 months ago
To Toda: In reference to the remark made by Toda: "Toda says... @MooreFun123: "Contain profanity or other language likely to offend", obviously you don't understand what you read; SCC has remedial classes for the intellectually challenged."
and yet you continue on a daily basis to use name calling in your posts...maybe it is you that needs to go back to school. STOP USING THE TERM TEA B^*(()S It is HIGHLY OFFENSIVE!
None 1 year, 10 months ago
@Amazed: so in your vocabulary "ignorant" is an acceptable non-abusive word. You must be from the north! And, SCC does have remedial classes for the intellectually challenged; just call Madie Ashe and ask her. Fact not fabrication. As far as Teabagger, you have to see my post on Calling the Kettle Black, it sums up Left Wing Conservative Republicans.
@Sandhills7: another diatribe of jabberwocky. "toda are you suggesting that Reece doesn't pay taxes??" Where did I make any comment about Reese not paying taxes? Where!
"just accept the facts and get off of the subject of how people came to knowledge of them" is likened to the "blind leading the blind". So in your opinion the government can RAISE taxes just because they say so? NO! I don't accept anything the government says without facts and statistics. Just because the County Board of Commissioners, the College Board that is made up of some of those same politicians, grants a request to spend taxpayers money for staffing that is not supported by a need other than "what if's" I will continue to voice my opinion - LOUDLY! When you have to pay income tax, property tax, sales tax, double taxes on soft drinks, taxes on food, medicine, and anything that isn't now taxed - which is a complete other topic, I don't want to pay the government one more penny ~ until someone tells me the facts as to why I have to pay one cent more! And I've lived in this county much longer than you have so my years of exposure to county politics outweighs your rationalization....
None 1 year, 10 months ago
@scc239: "what if's", a person came to campus with several firearms concealed in a backpack ~ since all students carry back packs ~ and made a psychotic and criminal decision to open fire on a classroom of students - like at Virginia Tech, what would be the time frame for neutralizing the threat, if officers had to come from the penthouse in Dempsey, say to Meyers? What time frame and consequences? Secondly, what if campus police were unable to neutralize the threat? Just a "what if" scenario.
Amazed 1 year, 10 months ago
I think accusing me from being from the North is almost as offensive as using the term you use for TEA party members! lol Born and raised in the south, thanks. I just asked that you stop using that explicit and highly offensive word on this not so public forum. I'm offended...many others are, too. It's immature...use REAL arguments to vent your frustration over the TEA Party movement...not intellectually offensive name calling methods.
Amazed 1 year, 10 months ago
and what in the world is this strange creature you speak of, Toda? a Left Wing Conservative Republican? Is that like a unicorn? a griffin? ;-)
scc239 1 year, 10 months ago
In a situation that you describe, there will be some deaths and injuries. I cannot give you an exact time frame but I can tell you that it will be a quicker response than if a Southern Pines officer had to come from downtown Southern Pines or if a Moore County deputy had to come from the Vass area.
If SCC officers could not neutralize the threat they would be able to contain the threat from moving to another class room or building. One of the objectives of Active Shooter training that all NC law enforcement officers attend is if the threat cannot be neutralized, contain it. Yes he/she may have shot two students in that classroom but he/she cannot move to another class and shoot two more.
Maybe the SCC officers will never be needed to respond to a situation you described, think of them as car insurance. You hate to pay for it but you are damn happy you had it when you get into an accident.
MooreFun123 1 year, 10 months ago
Toda you yourself said: "...as usual at the expense of the taxpayer. Dr. John, Reese and George now have their campus police force ~ ironically not one of them has to write the check!" Therefore, you are announcing that Reece doesn't pay taxes. You are just digging a bigger hole for yourself.
"And I've lived in this county much longer than you have so my years of exposure to county politics outweighs your rationalization..." And how old do you ASSUME that I am?? You must think you are the oldest, most experienced person in this town.....very interesting how you always ASSUME things.... Do you know what you look like when you assume? I think we all know.
@scc239, well put my friend.
Sandheels7 1 year, 10 months ago
"What time frame and consequences? Secondly, what if campus police were unable to neutralize the threat? Just a "what if" scenario."
One cannot predict the future. Situations can change at any minute, as well as the consequences. If it happens, read about the heroic actions the officers took in the paper and you'll get your answer. lol
I'm sure the officers have training/experience with active shooters. What would they do? They would handle the situation in an efficient and effective manner i.e. get rid of the threat, if you get what I mean.
Lets keep playing the "what if" game. WHAT IF Toda stopped being miserable and stopped insulting everyone who disagrees with him.... hmm, both of these examples are very unlikely to happen.
SCCstudent 1 year, 10 months ago
@MooreFun123: Wouldn't it be nice if Reese did write the "check" for $160,000.00 for the next 10 years.
Sandheels7: "WHAT IF Toda stopped being miserable and stopped insulting everyone who disagrees with him", so what's your opinion about the TEA Party Crowd. They are a miserable lot! Do you agree with everything the government says and does?
WHAT IF the taxpayers of this country and county just rolls over and plays dead? Then Toda nor anyone else would be miserable! Sadly none of you can see the trees for the forest: All Toda asked for was statistical date that supported hiring a full time police force for Sandhills. Can't anyone of you read ~ or are you to eager to attack anything he says? Reeses report over the last THREE YEARS doesn't support the need for a campus police department or an increase in future budgets.
SCCstudent 1 year, 10 months ago
TAXED Enought Already - so that group does support unsubstanciated tax increases? That's what this is all about - the county government spending tax dollars! So the TAX PARTY MOVEMENT isn't concerned about more taxes - give me a break!!!