Naw, I think he's "barking up a wrong tree." But, I agree that we are in a "knotty" situation, and at least Geoff gives us his version of the un-"varnished" truth.
Dwight, see my recommendation to Tom. You might want to find your own cave, however. Don't want the other wing-nut survivalists to think the two of you have a "thing" going on.
CaddieMaster you are a new breath of fresh air. Keep participating. As you do so, you'll learn, sadly, that many regular contributors, like TreadLightly(sic), are classic "LIVs" (low information voters), "Bachmannize" their arguments, i.e. they just make up facts when it suits their purposes because they assume that their audience doesn't know the facts either, and generally know little about law, economics (micro and macro), the Constitution (which they just adore, just so long as it doesn't give rights to people they don't like), American history, and geopolitics. Other than that, they're a really fun bunch.
Well, if HE could make sure his word was written correctly, then why are there so many different versions just in English! Then count all the different versions historically in English, in Greek, in Hebrew, and so on. Count all the hundreds, maybe thousands of different translations. They're all written correctly? Even when they say different things in the exact same passages?
And if you don't recall anyone claiming all the founders were Christian you have a very, very convenient and selective memory. It's a constant theme of the Christian right and the TreadLightly's of the U.S. that the Founders were all Christians, that they wanted a "Christian" country, and all our laws MUST conform to the Bible, but only as the Christian right interprets the Bible, of course.
Actually "marriage" in simply a "contract" between two individuals that creates rights and obligations between them pertaining to property, debts, and future child rearing, among other things. That is why you need a license from the State to get married and a signed document from both parties and a civil or religious authority attesting that you have lawfully been married within said State to be considered married. Religious institutions have added a layer of sacredness to marriage. Which is fine. and which is also the reason that no advocates of gay marriage have demanded that religious institutions perform such services if they object to them.
But we can always count on intolerant religious "patriots" like TreadLightly (sic) to demand that the Bible, that document which has been written by men, rewritten, edited, reedited, truncated, revised, translated, mistranslated, god knows how many times so we can read the "true unerring word of god" be the source of our civil codes. I'm sure he's one of those who would argue that the Founders were all Christians and intended the United States to be a Christian nation. One wonders why they bothered writing a constitution at all; instead when any dispute arose they should just have advised "see the Bible...." But, for the record, let me cite Jefferson (it's amazing how both Conservatives and Liberals claim him as their authority)
"I have examined all the known superstitions of the world and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth."
Hence, the current North Carolina legislature and S. 106.
jimt 1 year, 9 months ago
It’s Time to Change the Change and Start Over
Naw, I think he's "barking up a wrong tree." But, I agree that we are in a "knotty" situation, and at least Geoff gives us his version of the un-"varnished" truth.
jimt 1 year, 9 months ago
US Ruined by Cartels
Dwight, see my recommendation to Tom. You might want to find your own cave, however. Don't want the other wing-nut survivalists to think the two of you have a "thing" going on.
jimt 1 year, 9 months ago
Crisis Is Monumental
Tom,
Head for the hills. Find yourself a cave. Stock it was several years worth of dehydrated food, plenty of water and move in.
jimt 1 year, 9 months ago
An Open Letter to the President
I was referring to TreadLightly's first sentence.
jimt 1 year, 9 months ago
An Open Letter to the President
CaddieMaster you are a new breath of fresh air. Keep participating. As you do so, you'll learn, sadly, that many regular contributors, like TreadLightly(sic), are classic "LIVs" (low information voters), "Bachmannize" their arguments, i.e. they just make up facts when it suits their purposes because they assume that their audience doesn't know the facts either, and generally know little about law, economics (micro and macro), the Constitution (which they just adore, just so long as it doesn't give rights to people they don't like), American history, and geopolitics. Other than that, they're a really fun bunch.
jimt 1 year, 9 months ago
An Open Letter to the President
Your first sentence makes no sense. It's unintelligible.
Can you name some of the regulations and restrictions that you believe Obama has instituted DURING HIS TERM that hinder job creation?
jimt 1 year, 9 months ago
Marriage Act: Needless Distraction
Well, if HE could make sure his word was written correctly, then why are there so many different versions just in English! Then count all the different versions historically in English, in Greek, in Hebrew, and so on. Count all the hundreds, maybe thousands of different translations. They're all written correctly? Even when they say different things in the exact same passages?
And if you don't recall anyone claiming all the founders were Christian you have a very, very convenient and selective memory. It's a constant theme of the Christian right and the TreadLightly's of the U.S. that the Founders were all Christians, that they wanted a "Christian" country, and all our laws MUST conform to the Bible, but only as the Christian right interprets the Bible, of course.
jimt 1 year, 9 months ago
Marriage Act: Needless Distraction
Well, then find yourself some theocracy and move there; bon voyage!
jimt 1 year, 9 months ago
Marriage Act: Needless Distraction
We are anyway
jimt 1 year, 9 months ago
Marriage Act: Needless Distraction
Actually "marriage" in simply a "contract" between two individuals that creates rights and obligations between them pertaining to property, debts, and future child rearing, among other things. That is why you need a license from the State to get married and a signed document from both parties and a civil or religious authority attesting that you have lawfully been married within said State to be considered married. Religious institutions have added a layer of sacredness to marriage. Which is fine. and which is also the reason that no advocates of gay marriage have demanded that religious institutions perform such services if they object to them.
But we can always count on intolerant religious "patriots" like TreadLightly (sic) to demand that the Bible, that document which has been written by men, rewritten, edited, reedited, truncated, revised, translated, mistranslated, god knows how many times so we can read the "true unerring word of god" be the source of our civil codes. I'm sure he's one of those who would argue that the Founders were all Christians and intended the United States to be a Christian nation. One wonders why they bothered writing a constitution at all; instead when any dispute arose they should just have advised "see the Bible...." But, for the record, let me cite Jefferson (it's amazing how both Conservatives and Liberals claim him as their authority)
"I have examined all the known superstitions of the world and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth."
Hence, the current North Carolina legislature and S. 106.