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He's still too slow to understand the form(s) to use to properly cite a quote, let alone how to create a hyperlink to a source. Guess he didn't write too many "term papers" in school, assuming he went to school long enough to get into grades that required students to write term papers.
Pesty boy (see we can use diminutives to show our lack of respect too), check out Elements of Style by Strunk and White, spend a few bucks, buy the book and educate yourself, clearly your teachers (sic) failed to, and learn yourself how to cite references like an intelligent and educated person. That alone will help you fool many of your detractors.
"Give him a house, food, phone, and clothing..."
Sounds like socialism.
The law assumes that everyone knows that killing is wrong. The one, and only, exception, is for those who are judged so mentally ill that they don't know killing is wrong because they live in a fantasy world. They are not set free, they are sent to a psychiatric "prison," and stay there indefinately, a la John Hinkley, who has been in such a prison for over 30 years.
Of course killing is wrong. What's your point? I agree with many conservatives on this site who argue that threatening to use a gun, pointing a gun, firing a gun, wounding someone with a gun, killing someone with a gun, all during the commission of a crime, warrant stiffer penalties than is now the case. I'm pro-death penalty, especially if a gun was used.
Pest, it is incumbent upon the individual who makes an assertion of fact to prove the accuracy of said fact. I say you are a liar. Prove me wrong!
Pack: "You can't legislate natural markets." No, but you can make the penalties for participating as either a seller or a buyer in the blackmarket for guns more draconian. Change the "cost/benefit" calculation enough and you'll have fewer sellers and buyers, or provide poliice authorities with more leverage to strike a deal with suspects.
Pest: "The stated goal of the demo party is ultimately to do away with firearms ownership in the U.S
...You say that forty percent of guns owned by criminals were obtained at gun shows...but Bureau of Justice stats say only ONE percent of criminals got them at gun shows."
These are two absolute lies. I challenge Pest to provide sources for these two assertions!
Pack, you're going to alienate your base with all this here reasonableness. Several clearly conservative posters have already announced their steadfast opposition to registration of firearms and background checks. Frankly, I fail to see the difference between registration and licensing. If you HAVE to get a license and get tested in the safe handling and competent use of a given firearm, isn't that functionally the same as registration? Any government agency could check to see who is licensed to carry, let's say a .22. Your name will come up. Then they check to see who is licensed to carry an AR, again, your name comes up. It ain't rocket science to "assume" you own a .22 and an AR, right?
I'm surprised Pack, that you acknowledge the legitimacy of requiring a firearms license by "the state." Isn't that a step towards a federal or state gun registry? Isn't that an "infringement" on your "right to bear arms." Why did you need a license to exercise a right?
I'm presume you've all read about the less than sober wife who just shot and killed her less than sober husband while he was giving her a lesson in how to safely handle guns. And of course, there's the story just out about the five-year-old who killed his two-year-old sister which the family hand gun. And on, and on, and on; just the price, I guess, of keeping our government from enslaving us in a massive military operation, which of course they're dying to do, featuring the army, air force, navy, marines, and state national guards, all of whom cower in fear at the thought of confronting armed American civilians (sic).
Pest: "JimT...sorry, I usually just skip over your posts. No I am not opposed to the bill as presented, if it was clean. Unfortunately for your side the Feinsteins, Schumers, etc. of the left just had to add useless junk that only penalized the law abiding...Now as to internet sales...I don't approve of them BUT there is no permit required to sell a long gun is there?"
IN what way(s) was the bill dirty? What do you mean there is no permit required to sell a long gun?
"The left has a habit of getting nasty when they don't have much proof that they are right."
Pot really calling the kettle black here.
"I drive what I drive because I like quality, and I drink with whom I want to."
Yeah, but will your Southern Pines/Pinehurst wine-set drink with you once they learn who and what you are? That is the question. Me thinks not so much.
We can't have a gun registry because then government, be it at the Federal, State, County, or Municipal level would know who has guns. They would then come after ALL those guns, using the SWAT forces that their idol, Ron Paul, so detests (see his comments about the police in Boston) so that gun owners cannot mass together and rise up as "patriots!!!!" and save America from euro-socialism, North Korean communism, and fundamentalist "nanny-statism." They are the only one's who are currently deterring these governments from these actions at this time, and it's only that government doesn't know who they are that constitutes the thin defensive line between FREEDOM! and SLAVERY!!!. Geez, Jim, I thought you were smart enough to know this.
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