Bflat ~ me, too. I absolutely know that too many times, the true victim is punished. Who is to say that, as some remarked "Mr Kelly had better aim" it would relieve the taxpayers of this criminal's care & upkeep, that it wouldn't result in his being charged with this thug's death ? Or even if these are the same perps that have hit others here lately, that they wouldn't have just robbed her and left with no exchange of gunfire if they had not challenged ? Exercising 2nd amendment rights doesn't always mean that you are protected under the law. I hope the Kellys a speedy recovery and the least amount of grief possible dealing with the fallout that will surely follow this tragedy.
Dirty rotten low-life thugs !! WTH ever happened to getting a job during the summer after highschool ?? They can conspire to commit armed robbery, but can't put all that effort towards trying to make a decent honest life ?? I suppose it's no wonder since society in general has dissolved into thieving teenaged dropouts that were raised in single parent, lived off of foodstamps and welfare, don't-know-who-baby's-daddy-is households. At 17 & 18 they may already be baby's daddy themselves.....and then go off to spend the rest of their lives in prison to start the cycle all over again.
This is part of the wording in Susie's Law. I suppose it could be interpreted in different ways, but if you dump a dog out of the back of a truck to chase deer and do not retrieve the dog in a timely fashion to provide it sustenance, how could that not be considered intentional ??However, if that same pack of dogs comes across land where the hunter has no right to be, the only course of action is to call animal control, you will no longer have the choice to dispose of them as nuisance animals no matter how often this happens to you as a land owner. Even if animal control came immediately the effort would likely prove useless. At least if hunters could be criminally charged with the pathetic condition of their dogs when they are turned in emaciated, it might be some small deterrent. The dollar that it costs them to pick the dog up certainly isn't, it's worth more than that to them to get back the tracking collars.
“If any person shall maliciously kill, or cause or procure to be killed, any animal by intentional deprivation of necessary sustenance, that person shall be guilty of a Class H felony,” says the wording of the bill.
The following is paraphrased:
Although the bill does not apply to the killing of game or farm animals, it could be used to prosecute anyone who shoots or kills stray domestic animals or non-game animals.
GoldenDreams - I have not done that search yet, but will try. Thanks for the tip.
SandhillsK9 - I agree, most hunters are responsible with their animals. The problem I have is that even the ones that do take care cannot control where their dogs run and when the dogs wander onto property that hunters do not have permission to be on, it makes it impossible to retrieve all of the dogs. These lost animals wander lost for days or weeks becoming dehydrated and emaciated and often suffer from wounds that would normally be treated in their owners' care. At present, if I'm not mistaken, when they are taken in by Animal Control, it only costs a dollar to get them back, without penalty. I highly commend Mo. Co. Animal Control on the job they do. I could not do what they do. They are limited by funds, resources and politics. Hopefully, their report form has been updated since I last saw a copy so that it reflects how many animals the owner posesses and how many animals were observed during an investigation. I know of a hunter who was reported for dogs that were lost and starving, the report only said that the dogs (that were observed) were "ok". There was no mention that the person owned more dogs than were checked out by the officer. These were the poor animals that slipped through the cracks in the system. There is currently no protection in place for property owners whose land is trespassed upon by hunting dogs as that the dogs cannot be charged with trespassing. Things need to change.
I wonder if Susie's Law will protect hunting dogs that are turned into Animal Control nearly starved to death because they were not recovered by the hunters after running deer ?? Or are they going to just pay the dollar that it cost to get the dog back only to do the same thing ? How is dumping a dog out to chase animals and not reclaiming it any different than abandoning it ?? Oh, because you didn't mean for it to get lost ? Hunters certainly mean to put the dogs out to hunt so why aren't they held responsible when those dogs go missing and become emaciated and injured ?? It just makes me sick. Glad Bella found a loving home and a family of her own.
Thanks, Tom. That's good to know. It would be interesting to know what the regulations are in regards to running lights/sirens during a chase. It's very sad that lives were lost and that someone who has dedicated his life to the service of others has this burden to bear. Lest we forget.
I hope they were using all safety precautions in the pursuit. Recently, a high speed chase ensued by a Highway Patrolman resulted in the death of two innocent people. The TV news sort of dropped this story after it was initially reported. No word on whether or not he was using his siren, only that he had his blue lights on or on whether or not there is a regulation requiring him to, only that there is no limit on speed in a chase, only that he had SLOWED DOWN TO 95mph when he plowed into them. They never had a chance. Even if he is not criminally charged or terminated from his position, I hope he is reminded constantly that there is more that he could have done to PROTECT and serve. I doubt Officer Goodknight will have a good night for a very long time.
babiehop 2 years, 11 months ago
Three Shot, Injured in Robbery of Convenience Store
So, either that's Williams school portrait, or its his PREVIOUS police mugshot seeing how he's in critical at MR Hosp. A career criminal at 17 !!
babiehop 2 years, 11 months ago
Three Shot, Injured in Robbery of Convenience Store
Bflat ~ me, too. I absolutely know that too many times, the true victim is punished. Who is to say that, as some remarked "Mr Kelly had better aim" it would relieve the taxpayers of this criminal's care & upkeep, that it wouldn't result in his being charged with this thug's death ? Or even if these are the same perps that have hit others here lately, that they wouldn't have just robbed her and left with no exchange of gunfire if they had not challenged ? Exercising 2nd amendment rights doesn't always mean that you are protected under the law. I hope the Kellys a speedy recovery and the least amount of grief possible dealing with the fallout that will surely follow this tragedy.
babiehop 2 years, 11 months ago
Three Shot, Injured in Robbery of Convenience Store
Dirty rotten low-life thugs !! WTH ever happened to getting a job during the summer after highschool ?? They can conspire to commit armed robbery, but can't put all that effort towards trying to make a decent honest life ?? I suppose it's no wonder since society in general has dissolved into thieving teenaged dropouts that were raised in single parent, lived off of foodstamps and welfare, don't-know-who-baby's-daddy-is households. At 17 & 18 they may already be baby's daddy themselves.....and then go off to spend the rest of their lives in prison to start the cycle all over again.
babiehop 2 years, 11 months ago
Moore Tea to Dedicate Billboards
~~y--a--w--n~~~~
babiehop 2 years, 11 months ago
Throw-Away Puppy Finds New, Happy Home
This is part of the wording in Susie's Law. I suppose it could be interpreted in different ways, but if you dump a dog out of the back of a truck to chase deer and do not retrieve the dog in a timely fashion to provide it sustenance, how could that not be considered intentional ??However, if that same pack of dogs comes across land where the hunter has no right to be, the only course of action is to call animal control, you will no longer have the choice to dispose of them as nuisance animals no matter how often this happens to you as a land owner. Even if animal control came immediately the effort would likely prove useless. At least if hunters could be criminally charged with the pathetic condition of their dogs when they are turned in emaciated, it might be some small deterrent. The dollar that it costs them to pick the dog up certainly isn't, it's worth more than that to them to get back the tracking collars.
“If any person shall maliciously kill, or cause or procure to be killed, any animal by intentional deprivation of necessary sustenance, that person shall be guilty of a Class H felony,” says the wording of the bill. The following is paraphrased: Although the bill does not apply to the killing of game or farm animals, it could be used to prosecute anyone who shoots or kills stray domestic animals or non-game animals.
babiehop 2 years, 11 months ago
Throw-Away Puppy Finds New, Happy Home
GoldenDreams - I have not done that search yet, but will try. Thanks for the tip.
SandhillsK9 - I agree, most hunters are responsible with their animals. The problem I have is that even the ones that do take care cannot control where their dogs run and when the dogs wander onto property that hunters do not have permission to be on, it makes it impossible to retrieve all of the dogs. These lost animals wander lost for days or weeks becoming dehydrated and emaciated and often suffer from wounds that would normally be treated in their owners' care. At present, if I'm not mistaken, when they are taken in by Animal Control, it only costs a dollar to get them back, without penalty. I highly commend Mo. Co. Animal Control on the job they do. I could not do what they do. They are limited by funds, resources and politics. Hopefully, their report form has been updated since I last saw a copy so that it reflects how many animals the owner posesses and how many animals were observed during an investigation. I know of a hunter who was reported for dogs that were lost and starving, the report only said that the dogs (that were observed) were "ok". There was no mention that the person owned more dogs than were checked out by the officer. These were the poor animals that slipped through the cracks in the system. There is currently no protection in place for property owners whose land is trespassed upon by hunting dogs as that the dogs cannot be charged with trespassing. Things need to change.
babiehop 2 years, 11 months ago
Throw-Away Puppy Finds New, Happy Home
I wonder if Susie's Law will protect hunting dogs that are turned into Animal Control nearly starved to death because they were not recovered by the hunters after running deer ?? Or are they going to just pay the dollar that it cost to get the dog back only to do the same thing ? How is dumping a dog out to chase animals and not reclaiming it any different than abandoning it ?? Oh, because you didn't mean for it to get lost ? Hunters certainly mean to put the dogs out to hunt so why aren't they held responsible when those dogs go missing and become emaciated and injured ?? It just makes me sick. Glad Bella found a loving home and a family of her own.
babiehop 2 years, 11 months ago
Aberdeen Police Apprehend S.P. Man After Car Pursuit
Thanks, Tom. That's good to know. It would be interesting to know what the regulations are in regards to running lights/sirens during a chase. It's very sad that lives were lost and that someone who has dedicated his life to the service of others has this burden to bear. Lest we forget.
babiehop 2 years, 11 months ago
Aberdeen Police Apprehend S.P. Man After Car Pursuit
I hope they were using all safety precautions in the pursuit. Recently, a high speed chase ensued by a Highway Patrolman resulted in the death of two innocent people. The TV news sort of dropped this story after it was initially reported. No word on whether or not he was using his siren, only that he had his blue lights on or on whether or not there is a regulation requiring him to, only that there is no limit on speed in a chase, only that he had SLOWED DOWN TO 95mph when he plowed into them. They never had a chance. Even if he is not criminally charged or terminated from his position, I hope he is reminded constantly that there is more that he could have done to PROTECT and serve. I doubt Officer Goodknight will have a good night for a very long time.
babiehop 2 years, 11 months ago
Grand Jury Indicts Vass Man on Sex Charges
EEeeeewwwww, dirty old man !