I agree with your statement: "the real problem lies in the manager not being prepared when he spoke to the commissioners."
None this less, the issue at hand is the "firing" of the town CFO. Its simply how the CFO carried out her actions in public. The responsibility lies with the council members to make sure the manager is performing in his/her role. No one else.
It doesn't surprise me to see people use this issue to push personal agendas at the expense of others. A very selfish act on those that do. I would like to see these people actually get involved in the community and do something (better use of energy). I personally only see a hand full of council members, citizens and town employee’s work for the community trying to better the town.
Challenge:
- to take exception to; call in question:
- to demand as something due or rightful:
My opinon the CFO was not fired for calling out the facts, true or not, that’s not the issue. Nor is it an NC STEP issue. It was how she handled it in public. That’s it... There's no story here... no secret coup
But for some people I guess there has to be drama injected including personal agendas even if it’s at the expense of the CFO and the town. This is sad, if the people that spend time spewing negative messages and pointing fingers really cared about the CFO and the town they would use this energy to support the CFO and her family and help Robbins get back on its feet and move on from this.
@MooreNorth
If an employee called a manager a liar in public in front of peers, yelling and screaming they would more then likely be fired not promoted.
As a kid I made a big mistake calling one of my parents a liar in front of friends, needless to say it never happened again! I was not punished for trying to set the record straight, I was punished for calling them liar in front of friends!
The firing of the CFO in my opinion had nothing to do with right or wrong. The CFO simply made a bad decision to challenge the manager in public at the wrong time and wrong place. The correct approach would have been to provide information to council in writing prior to the meeting giving them the tools and information needed to best qualify results and outcome.
In my experience I have witnessed employees get to close to issues outside of assigned roles and responsibilities, over time they can become emotionally attached to issues making it there own, when its not. This only creates a downward spiral for them because they “feel” they know best and should be allowed to make the ultimate decision when they are not in the correct role or position to do so. An experienced manager who knows his or her employees can see this in its early stages and should know how to stop it before it gets out of hand. In this case it seems to have got out of hand.
Anyone who cares about what they do and puts 110% into there job will eventually get to close to issues outside there bounds. Experience will teach us when and how to “remove” ourselves from issues that will get volatile or deeply political. If a manager is making bad decisions, eventually it will catch up to them. Remember, no one gets fired for supporting there manager, but plenty are fired for taking ownership away from them.
TinMan 2 years, 10 months ago
Stormy Session Prompts Departure of Robbins's Finance Director
@mcguy
I agree with your statement: "the real problem lies in the manager not being prepared when he spoke to the commissioners."
None this less, the issue at hand is the "firing" of the town CFO. Its simply how the CFO carried out her actions in public. The responsibility lies with the council members to make sure the manager is performing in his/her role. No one else.
It doesn't surprise me to see people use this issue to push personal agendas at the expense of others. A very selfish act on those that do. I would like to see these people actually get involved in the community and do something (better use of energy). I personally only see a hand full of council members, citizens and town employee’s work for the community trying to better the town.
TinMan 2 years, 10 months ago
Stormy Session Prompts Departure of Robbins's Finance Director
@difflook The use of the term "Challenge".
Challenge: - to take exception to; call in question: - to demand as something due or rightful:
My opinon the CFO was not fired for calling out the facts, true or not, that’s not the issue. Nor is it an NC STEP issue. It was how she handled it in public. That’s it... There's no story here... no secret coup
But for some people I guess there has to be drama injected including personal agendas even if it’s at the expense of the CFO and the town. This is sad, if the people that spend time spewing negative messages and pointing fingers really cared about the CFO and the town they would use this energy to support the CFO and her family and help Robbins get back on its feet and move on from this.
@MooreNorth If an employee called a manager a liar in public in front of peers, yelling and screaming they would more then likely be fired not promoted.
As a kid I made a big mistake calling one of my parents a liar in front of friends, needless to say it never happened again! I was not punished for trying to set the record straight, I was punished for calling them liar in front of friends!
TinMan 2 years, 10 months ago
Stormy Session Prompts Departure of Robbins's Finance Director
The firing of the CFO in my opinion had nothing to do with right or wrong. The CFO simply made a bad decision to challenge the manager in public at the wrong time and wrong place. The correct approach would have been to provide information to council in writing prior to the meeting giving them the tools and information needed to best qualify results and outcome.
In my experience I have witnessed employees get to close to issues outside of assigned roles and responsibilities, over time they can become emotionally attached to issues making it there own, when its not. This only creates a downward spiral for them because they “feel” they know best and should be allowed to make the ultimate decision when they are not in the correct role or position to do so. An experienced manager who knows his or her employees can see this in its early stages and should know how to stop it before it gets out of hand. In this case it seems to have got out of hand.
Anyone who cares about what they do and puts 110% into there job will eventually get to close to issues outside there bounds. Experience will teach us when and how to “remove” ourselves from issues that will get volatile or deeply political. If a manager is making bad decisions, eventually it will catch up to them. Remember, no one gets fired for supporting there manager, but plenty are fired for taking ownership away from them.
TinMan 2 years, 11 months ago
A Nation Under God
"Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right." - Abraham Lincoln
TinMan 2 years, 11 months ago
A Nation Under God
"It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." -George Washington