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DoubleHeroides-- I apologize for the gruesome nature of the video posted regarding the Christians being slaughtered with tanks, but it was necessary to put the "one hand" comments into proper context. Cheers!
DoubleHeroides-- Thanks again for the comment. You ask, "Would the President be incorrect in saying that Tahrir Square was the site of religious tolerance marches by some people who wanted religious tolerance?" My answer is, "Yes. I believe the President would be incorrect," and here's why. Obama's quote, "Muslims, Christians, we are one" appears to have been uttered by a few Muslims during a Coptic Christian march...the 2011 march where Mubarak's military council (which was still in place, although Mubarak was not) began running over the Christians with tanks and other vehicles: http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=7439; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047198/Cairo-riots-At-24-killed-200-injured-Christians-clash-Egyptian-military.html. It is no secret that members of the Muslim Brotherhood (who now basically control Egypt) hated Mubarak's military council, and it is true that many Muslims there fought the military and uttered "Muslims and Christians, one hand." But this "joining" of Muslims and Christians against the military was not about "religious tolerance," anymore than Mubarak's left-over military council murdering Christians by running them over with tanks was about religious tolerance. It was about getting rid of the military council. I posted several links above showing what the Muslim Brotherhood has been doing to Christians since taking control after Mubarak's ouster, and there is no need to repost them here. I hope that answers your questions. I enjoy your posts here. My best to you. Cheers!
JimRussell44-- Good to see you here. The answer to your question, "If not, why?" is often explained as follows: http://www.tektonics.org/gk/jeswrite.html. Hope that helps. Cheers!
DoubleHeroides-- Thanks for the comment. For certain, MLK preached for freedom and equality for African Americans in Washington, D.C. He did not, however, preach or remotely suggest that Washington D.C. was an example of a place where freedom and equality existed or was practiced as to African Americans. Far from it. Obama, as quoted by DR, said, "Such tolerance is particularly important when it comes to religion. In Tahrir Square, we heard Egyptians from all walks of life chant, 'Muslims, Christians, we are one.'" As I said to DR, there are many places on Earth where religious tolerance is practiced. Tahrir Square is simply not one of those places, and to suggest otherwise ignores reality. To me, the better argument is that MLK preached for racial equality for African Americans primarily in the South...where racism was rampant at the time. That he preached in the South did not mean that he believed his "preaching location" was a place that practiced racial tolerance. Further, that a few whites joined in his marches also makes my point: those whites, just like MLK and his African American followers, were nonetheless often brutalized by racists. In short, Tahrir Square is to religious tolerance as the Selma to Montgomery march was to racial tolerance. Of course, when the "PRESIDENT CALLED FOR RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE" (as DR claimed in all-caps), he used as an example Tahrir Square. I would fully support Obama's call for religious tolerance if he had used Tahrir Square as a place where it is not practiced, but should be. Again, thanks for the comment. Cheers!
jimt-- I really enjoyed our discussion on gun control. You were a gentleman throughout our back and forth. Very rare here. My best to you. Cheers!
Golly Reggie, you called me "half-bright." That's quite a compliment coming from you. Thank you! Cheers!
Sorry you feel that way. I enjoyed it, and I wish you the best. Cheers!
DR-- I didn't make stuff up, and I am not, as you claim, "cornered like a rat." And neither am I desperate, as you claim. Instead, I am correct about Tahrir Square having no place in any discussion about "religious tolerance." You can call me names all you like, and you can use "all caps" to stress your original point. But "all caps" does not, and can not, magically transform Tahrir Square into a place where religious tolerance is practiced. Sorry. Cheers!
geoff and Bob-- Now the latest, where the Cincinnati "low-level" or "rogue" IRS agents are claiming that "everything comes from the top," and that these workers had no authority to target Tea Party groups absent directives from their superiors: http://washingtonexaminer.com/anonymous-cincinnati-irs-officialerything-comes-from-the-top./article/2530001. This should be interesting. Cheers!
Nice try, DR, but I said I believe you said you were an athiest here. If I mistook you for another poster, then my mistake. But whether you are an athiest or not is irrelevant to my point, and you know it. Look DR, there are many places on Earth where religious tolerance is practiced. Tahrir Square is not one of those places. Obama was wrong to use it as an example in his "call for religious tolerance" (as you described it). You were wrong to defend Obama's use of this grossly false example. I'm glad to know you are not an athiest, and I apologize for confusing you with another poster here. Cheers!
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