It's not a big deal to me, but I couldn't care any less than a already do. There is no doubt that plenty of people hate gays, but the overwhelming majority do not. I definitely think they would have more success getting their way if they didn't use the word marraige. And I don't think it's "seperate but equal". If they started having seperate schools, water fountains, etc for gay people, that would be seperate but equal. Avoiding the word marraige simply appeases those that believe marraige is unique to a man and a woman, while giving gays all the benefits we've previously discussed.
I disagree Andrew. That's what they should be demanding, but somehow they remain adamant about using the word "marraige". Sometimes it seems like they are more concerned with angering the religious right than scoring legislative victories.
You made a good point Andrew. If they had fought for Civil Unions and focus on tax benifits and other benefits, it would have long ago been a done deal. But it had to be "marraige".
And no one that voted in the recent gay marraige election - that they would have been won with any tact at all - lived in the Roman Empire.
Actually, according to the recently revised North Carolina Constitution, gay marraige itself is what's unacceptable. Now if you'd like to get that changed, I encourage you to type more sentences like "homosexuals are not harming anyone. If two people of the same sex choose to have a relationship, that has no bearing on anyone else." ---- and less ones like "there's no explanation for opposition to gay marriage other than fear and ignorance."
Marraige has been around for a long time and you're the ones trying to get it changed. Insulting those that are reluctant doesn't help this cause, nor does it make people more accepting of homosexuals. It just satisfies your need to claim a intellectual higher ground. Same sex marraige is a new idea and one that a significant majority of the population has never considered prior to a few years ago. And they are neither afraid nor ignorant. They just want to keep marraige like it's always been.
I use my real name, so thanks for the compliment Churchill, whoever you are.
Dusty - no one is questoning the gay community's right to free speech. I am questioning their strategy to win people to their side so they can achieve their stated goal of being married as husband and wi......however that works.
This didn't have to be a big deal, but they pro gay marraige group made it a big deal and they are shooting themselves in the foot, again. With any tact at all, that amendment would not have passed.
The "right wing jerks" didn't do anything until the pro gay marraige community declared war on Chick Fil A because the CEO says he opposes gay marraige. Then the "right wing jerks" went to Chick Fil A in droves.
I don't see how this is going to win people to their side. They just lost an election in NC that they would have won if they were not so obnoxious in their criticism of their ideological opponents. Do they want to be able to get married? Or do they just want to show how obnoxious they can be. The gay community leaders need to step up and condemn acts like this. Chick Fil A exists to serve chicken biscuits and sandwiches, not to be a social think tank. Who cares what the CEO thinks about this or anything else, other than chicken.
RonCoffmanJr 9 months, 1 week ago
Stating His Beliefs
Because married people vote. Same reason every tax benefit is there.
RonCoffmanJr 9 months, 1 week ago
Stating His Beliefs
It's not a big deal to me, but I couldn't care any less than a already do. There is no doubt that plenty of people hate gays, but the overwhelming majority do not. I definitely think they would have more success getting their way if they didn't use the word marraige. And I don't think it's "seperate but equal". If they started having seperate schools, water fountains, etc for gay people, that would be seperate but equal. Avoiding the word marraige simply appeases those that believe marraige is unique to a man and a woman, while giving gays all the benefits we've previously discussed.
RonCoffmanJr 9 months, 1 week ago
Stating His Beliefs
Yes, the are allowed to. But I don't think it helps them get what they want as far as elections and legislative agenda. Do you think it helps them?
RonCoffmanJr 9 months, 1 week ago
Stating His Beliefs
I disagree Andrew. That's what they should be demanding, but somehow they remain adamant about using the word "marraige". Sometimes it seems like they are more concerned with angering the religious right than scoring legislative victories.
RonCoffmanJr 9 months, 1 week ago
Stating His Beliefs
You made a good point Andrew. If they had fought for Civil Unions and focus on tax benifits and other benefits, it would have long ago been a done deal. But it had to be "marraige".
And no one that voted in the recent gay marraige election - that they would have been won with any tact at all - lived in the Roman Empire.
RonCoffmanJr 9 months, 1 week ago
Stating His Beliefs
Actually, according to the recently revised North Carolina Constitution, gay marraige itself is what's unacceptable. Now if you'd like to get that changed, I encourage you to type more sentences like "homosexuals are not harming anyone. If two people of the same sex choose to have a relationship, that has no bearing on anyone else." ---- and less ones like "there's no explanation for opposition to gay marriage other than fear and ignorance."
Marraige has been around for a long time and you're the ones trying to get it changed. Insulting those that are reluctant doesn't help this cause, nor does it make people more accepting of homosexuals. It just satisfies your need to claim a intellectual higher ground. Same sex marraige is a new idea and one that a significant majority of the population has never considered prior to a few years ago. And they are neither afraid nor ignorant. They just want to keep marraige like it's always been.
RonCoffmanJr 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Culture War Over Marriage Consumes Chicken Chain
I use my real name, so thanks for the compliment Churchill, whoever you are.
Dusty - no one is questoning the gay community's right to free speech. I am questioning their strategy to win people to their side so they can achieve their stated goal of being married as husband and wi......however that works.
This didn't have to be a big deal, but they pro gay marraige group made it a big deal and they are shooting themselves in the foot, again. With any tact at all, that amendment would not have passed.
RonCoffmanJr 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Culture War Over Marriage Consumes Chicken Chain
The "right wing jerks" didn't do anything until the pro gay marraige community declared war on Chick Fil A because the CEO says he opposes gay marraige. Then the "right wing jerks" went to Chick Fil A in droves.
RonCoffmanJr 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Culture War Over Marriage Consumes Chicken Chain
I don't see how this is going to win people to their side. They just lost an election in NC that they would have won if they were not so obnoxious in their criticism of their ideological opponents. Do they want to be able to get married? Or do they just want to show how obnoxious they can be. The gay community leaders need to step up and condemn acts like this. Chick Fil A exists to serve chicken biscuits and sandwiches, not to be a social think tank. Who cares what the CEO thinks about this or anything else, other than chicken.
RonCoffmanJr 9 months, 4 weeks ago
Luxury Apartments Planned for Morganton Road
sounds pretty cool to me