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Clarabelle, the average police officer gets trained one time, and then has to qualify once a year. That's it. Only specialty groups like swat receive more. Many police officers are not gun enthusiasts, and do not practice regularly. Many only shoot during their qualification. Many CHP holders that actually carry on a regular basis also shoot on a somewhat regular basis. More than once a year.
Alladat1, your blatant lie about 6 CCW carriers hiding under cars proves you have no desire to discuss the issue with any degree of truth. What you don't get, is your desire to unarm law abiding citizens means you are a DOD as you call it. No criminal is ever going to follow gun laws, so the only folks that would ever disarm under government order are the law abiding gun owners. This of course means the only ones that will have guns at that point would be the criminals, and they'd have no reason to fear one of their victims would shoot back. As for concealed carriers preventing crimes, I guess you and clarabell both forgot about the recent Internet cafe armed robbery that was stopped by a Concealed Carrier. Just like you both have apparently forgotten about the Pine Lake massacre just 10 miles up the road. Oh yeah, guess what? Pine Lake is also a gun free zone. They have a nice sign right on the front door preventing guns. Worked real well a few years ago, didn't it? But I realize that talking with folks like you is a waste of time, because you have absolutely no desire to see the issue from any other angle. Just keep your head buried in the sand.
Alladat1, I just noticed your comment regarding the guys found near their cars with guns, let go after showing their NRA cards... Making up nonsense to try and prove your case does just the opposite. Try sticking with facts please.
Alladat1, of course you never hear about some CC guy stopping a mass shooting, because mass shootings happen in gun free zones, where CC guys cannot legally carry. Your comment in and of itself proves you have no clue about NYC, or you would know that they do not allow concealed carry by anybody but a select priviledged few. The Theater in Aurora Colorado had a specific policy banning lawful carry inside the building, which prevented your CC guy from having a means of stopping the attack. How about Virginia Tech? Yep, another gun free zone, so yeah, no CC guy was able to do anything there either. The list goes on and on, but the fact is, these crazed gunmen want one thing... a high body count. Where else to get one of these than a place where you know nobody will be there to shoot back? A gun free zone of course. They only stop the law abiding citizens from carrying, because the criminals and crazies don't care about the law. It's called common sense alladat1. Look into it.
clarabelle, do you really believe that the only times you would ever possibly need to carry a firearm would be on trips or when you're alone? Really? And what is it about soccer games or parks that would make an otherwise sane, law abiding citizen somehow more likely to become a criminal and start shooting? So we can be trusted when we're travelling, or when we're alone, but put us in a crowd, and somehow we become dangerous? Now it's you not making sense. I carry all the time, because I have no crystal ball that tells me when some criminal may attack. And as for your comment regarding "Their gun will already be pulled while yours is still in its holster" it's obvious you have no desire to actually read about how many law abiding citizens use their weapons to prevent crime on a daily basis. Google it. There are more stories than I could possibly link here. How is it they were able to use their weapon when the bad guys always get the drop on you first?
TarHeelBoy, feel free to leave your firearm at home. Just know there are law abiding citizens around you every day, peaceably carrying firearms for personal protection in more places than a park. What I don't understand is why everyone automatically talks about children and playgrounds, when the ban affected much more than that. There are areas of the greenway trails that would be prime location for a mugger or rapist to pick an unsuspecting victim from. I applaud the local government for actually realizing the error of their ways, and wasting no time correcting it. I only wish other cities who have enacted similar bans would do the same.
Yeah, Bflat, it's all good, poking fun and making sarcastic, tongue-in-cheek comments at those of us that realize the police will not be there to protect us if something bad goes down. Just remember, something crazy like that can happen anywhere, any time. How quickly we forget that it actually happened just right down the road. I bet those 8 folks gunned down at Pinelake Nursing home in Carthage felt safe when they woke up that morning. After all, there's a nice "No Guns" sign on the door to protect them... Same in Aurora. Who would have ever thought that their night of enjoying a midnight release at a movie theater would turn into a nightmare in the blink of an eye? After all, there was a "No Guns" sign on the door to protect them too. How about those students at Virginia Tech, who woke up that morning just like many mornings before, thinking they were just going to fight to stay awake during the lecture, not fight for their lives? After all, we all know guns aren't allowed on campus, right? You see, folks like you who live every day in their own world, oblivious to what's going on around them always assume it could never happen to you. You're the ones that when something does happen, you'll be begging the 911 dispatchers to hurry up and send the police to save you. Personally, I'd much rather have my own gun with me than potentially wait the rest of my life for the police to bring theirs. I've carried for over 15 years, and have never even come close to needing it. Does that mean I'll never be put in a situation where it may be needed to save my life, or the lives of others like yourself? Nope. I just have to pray it never happens, but be sure I'm prepared if it does. Just keep living your life in your own world, where nothing bad ever happens. Just remember, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
Great job guys. Your ban is sure to save many innocent lives. Sure, you've never had any problems with guns before, but you have to think ahead and prevent something from happening in the future. Just like Cinemark Theaters in Aurora. They had never had any problem with guns, despite state law that allows lawful carry into theaters, but they thought ahead and banned all guns to prevent innocent loss of life. Surely there's no valid reason to be able to protect yourself in a theater, right? Surely there aren't any women who need to be able to protect themselves while walking or jogging on one of the more secluded areas of your greenway trails, right? No muggers would ever think of hiding in wait in an area like that. Keep up the good work playing nanny to all the law abiding citizens. We all know criminals follow the law so well. BTW, can anybody show me one single instance where a "no guns" sign prevented a mass shooting or robbery, or rape? And, since we're talking about law abiding citizens who are feared to be unable to control their temper at the ball park, what's to stop them from retrieving their locked up firearm to end an argument?
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