that's the very reason why my 11 year old daughter and I do this...to teach her to be respectful, a good citizen and not litter. I can only do my own little part, by teaching my child the right way to live. Sorry if some take this as 'enabling' others.
The Town of Aberdeen doesn't send out final notices either...at the top of the bill...it says "First and Final notice. Wonder if you can just set up a draft to directly draft from your account on the due date (like many insurance companies do) and then you can avoid any cutoffs.
you can actually click on the highlighted words or number notations and it will send you to the source from which the information came...valid, accurate sources.
continued: Jeff Ordower, ACORN's Midwest Director, observed, "There is no scenario where those people on problematic cards would show up at the polls."[32][33] Of 26,513 registrations submitted by ACORN over a nine-month period in San Diego County, California, 4,655 were initially flagged, but 2,806 of those were later validated - a 7% error rate - compared to usually less than 5% for voter drives by other organizations, according to county officials.[34] In a case in Washington state where 7 temporary employees of ACORN were charged with submitting fraudulent voter registrations, ACORN agreed to pay King County $25,000 for its investigative costs and acknowledged that the national organization could be subject to criminal prosecution if fraud occurs again. According to the prosecutor, the misconduct was done "as an easy way to get paid [by ACORN], not as an attempt to influence the outcome of elections."[29][35] In August, 2009, a former ACORN field director in Las Vegas pled guilty to "conspiracy to commit the crime of compensation for registration of voters" in connection with a quota system for paid registration staff.[36] In November 2009, the former ACORN official, Christopher Edwards was sentenced to a year's probation and agreed to testify for prosecutors in charges against ACORN and against an ACORN regional director.[37]
In addition to registering voters directly, ACORN has worked to remove systemic obstacles to voter registration. In 2006, it brought a lawsuit in federal court in Ohio against the Ohio Secretary of State, at that time Ken Blackwell, and the Director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services. ACORN alleged that, during the period that included the 2004 United States election voting controversies, the defendants had committed multiple violations of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993. The district court dismissed the case, but that decision was reversed in 2008 by the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit.[38] After extensive fact discovery in 2009, the parties agreed to a settlement, under which the defendants agreed to implement several measures to facilitate registration of low-income voters.[39][40][41] The Dayton Daily News characterized the settlement as "accepting the thrust of [ACORN's] complaint."[42]"
sounds like they did register a few voters to me....and paying settlements and dissolving the organization in its entirety doesn't lead me to believe they were an innocent do-gooder organization.
I think everyone should vote...but I'd like for you to cite for me someone or a group of someones that have said "if voter ids are required, I won't be able to vote and have my vote counted because I can't afford a $10 ID card?" I don't think this would keep any voters (and by voter, I mean a person that actually makes the effort to go vote) out of the polling places.
From Wikipedia...(I know I know, you can't believe everything on wikipedia but this one actually links their facts to valid sites for fact checking)
"Voter registration:
ACORN has conducted large-scale voter registration drives since at least the 1980s,[24] focusing primarily on poor and minority citizens.[25][26] During the 2008 election season, ACORN gathered over 1.3 million voter registration forms in 21 states. Some of these registration forms were flagged by ACORN's internal auditors for review by election officials. It was estimated by Project Vote that 400,000 registrations collected by ACORN were ultimately rejected, the vast majority for being duplicate registrations submitted by citizens (which is also common at government voter registration services according to reports on the National Voter Registration Act by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission). An unknown number of registrations were fraudulent, but Project Vote estimated that only a few percent were based on past years and samples from some drives in 2008.[27] No official in states where voter registration drives were conducted have come forward with substantial numbers of fraudulent registrations. It was estimated by Project Vote that 450,000 of the registrations collected by ACORN represented first-time voters, while the remainder were address changes submitted by citizens updating their addresses.[27]
As required by law in most states, ACORN must submit all registration forms collected by its workers, including those flagged by ACORN as incomplete or suspicious. Fraudulent voter registrations are investigated at local, state, and federal levels, and have sometimes resulted in criminal convictions for ACORN employees. ACORN has fired employees for fraudulent registration practices and turned them over to authorities. As of 2006, ACORN was improving its fraud detection and reporting procedures, and cooperating with authorities in efforts to prosecute violators.[28][29][30][31]
so no IDs are ok, but voter intimidation is....allllrighty then!
Guess you turn your head when they show the stories about ACORN as well.
How about, since using driver's licenses would be discriminatory to poor people, how about they also allow proof of identity by allowing them to show their food stamp card, or their Section 8 paperwork?
Amazed 2 years ago
Don't Trash the Town
that's the very reason why my 11 year old daughter and I do this...to teach her to be respectful, a good citizen and not litter. I can only do my own little part, by teaching my child the right way to live. Sorry if some take this as 'enabling' others.
Amazed 2 years ago
Don't Trash the Town
We carry trash bags with us when we take our walks in downtown and pick it up as we go.
Amazed 2 years ago
Democrats Closing Office, Focus Money Elsewhere
in case you'd like to see the actual numbers (all public record...all easily accessible on the NC State Board of Elections site) here's the link: http://www.app.sboe.state.nc.us/NCSBE/VR/VR%20Stats/vr_stats_results.asp?EC=04-23-2011
Amazed 2 years, 1 month ago
No Warning on Water
The Town of Aberdeen doesn't send out final notices either...at the top of the bill...it says "First and Final notice. Wonder if you can just set up a draft to directly draft from your account on the due date (like many insurance companies do) and then you can avoid any cutoffs.
Amazed 2 years, 2 months ago
ID Is a Necessity
you can actually click on the highlighted words or number notations and it will send you to the source from which the information came...valid, accurate sources.
Amazed 2 years, 2 months ago
ID Is a Necessity
not innocent...here's the link to the above referenced article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associat...
Amazed 2 years, 2 months ago
ID Is a Necessity
I did above (see my posts above)...ACORN is no more because of the fraud.
Amazed 2 years, 2 months ago
ID Is a Necessity
continued: Jeff Ordower, ACORN's Midwest Director, observed, "There is no scenario where those people on problematic cards would show up at the polls."[32][33] Of 26,513 registrations submitted by ACORN over a nine-month period in San Diego County, California, 4,655 were initially flagged, but 2,806 of those were later validated - a 7% error rate - compared to usually less than 5% for voter drives by other organizations, according to county officials.[34] In a case in Washington state where 7 temporary employees of ACORN were charged with submitting fraudulent voter registrations, ACORN agreed to pay King County $25,000 for its investigative costs and acknowledged that the national organization could be subject to criminal prosecution if fraud occurs again. According to the prosecutor, the misconduct was done "as an easy way to get paid [by ACORN], not as an attempt to influence the outcome of elections."[29][35] In August, 2009, a former ACORN field director in Las Vegas pled guilty to "conspiracy to commit the crime of compensation for registration of voters" in connection with a quota system for paid registration staff.[36] In November 2009, the former ACORN official, Christopher Edwards was sentenced to a year's probation and agreed to testify for prosecutors in charges against ACORN and against an ACORN regional director.[37]
In addition to registering voters directly, ACORN has worked to remove systemic obstacles to voter registration. In 2006, it brought a lawsuit in federal court in Ohio against the Ohio Secretary of State, at that time Ken Blackwell, and the Director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services. ACORN alleged that, during the period that included the 2004 United States election voting controversies, the defendants had committed multiple violations of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993. The district court dismissed the case, but that decision was reversed in 2008 by the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit.[38] After extensive fact discovery in 2009, the parties agreed to a settlement, under which the defendants agreed to implement several measures to facilitate registration of low-income voters.[39][40][41] The Dayton Daily News characterized the settlement as "accepting the thrust of [ACORN's] complaint."[42]"
sounds like they did register a few voters to me....and paying settlements and dissolving the organization in its entirety doesn't lead me to believe they were an innocent do-gooder organization.
I think everyone should vote...but I'd like for you to cite for me someone or a group of someones that have said "if voter ids are required, I won't be able to vote and have my vote counted because I can't afford a $10 ID card?" I don't think this would keep any voters (and by voter, I mean a person that actually makes the effort to go vote) out of the polling places.
Amazed 2 years, 2 months ago
ID Is a Necessity
From Wikipedia...(I know I know, you can't believe everything on wikipedia but this one actually links their facts to valid sites for fact checking) "Voter registration: ACORN has conducted large-scale voter registration drives since at least the 1980s,[24] focusing primarily on poor and minority citizens.[25][26] During the 2008 election season, ACORN gathered over 1.3 million voter registration forms in 21 states. Some of these registration forms were flagged by ACORN's internal auditors for review by election officials. It was estimated by Project Vote that 400,000 registrations collected by ACORN were ultimately rejected, the vast majority for being duplicate registrations submitted by citizens (which is also common at government voter registration services according to reports on the National Voter Registration Act by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission). An unknown number of registrations were fraudulent, but Project Vote estimated that only a few percent were based on past years and samples from some drives in 2008.[27] No official in states where voter registration drives were conducted have come forward with substantial numbers of fraudulent registrations. It was estimated by Project Vote that 450,000 of the registrations collected by ACORN represented first-time voters, while the remainder were address changes submitted by citizens updating their addresses.[27]
As required by law in most states, ACORN must submit all registration forms collected by its workers, including those flagged by ACORN as incomplete or suspicious. Fraudulent voter registrations are investigated at local, state, and federal levels, and have sometimes resulted in criminal convictions for ACORN employees. ACORN has fired employees for fraudulent registration practices and turned them over to authorities. As of 2006, ACORN was improving its fraud detection and reporting procedures, and cooperating with authorities in efforts to prosecute violators.[28][29][30][31]
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Amazed 2 years, 2 months ago
ID Is a Necessity
so no IDs are ok, but voter intimidation is....allllrighty then!
Guess you turn your head when they show the stories about ACORN as well.
How about, since using driver's licenses would be discriminatory to poor people, how about they also allow proof of identity by allowing them to show their food stamp card, or their Section 8 paperwork?